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[[WMG: The individual that knocked out/killed [[spoiler:''[[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu the Living Tribunal?]]'']] [[BiggerBad The honest to badness]] [[{{Satan}} Devil of the Marvel Multiverse.]] ]]
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[[WMG: The individual that knocked out/killed [[spoiler:''[[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu the Living Tribunal?]]'']] [[BiggerBad The honest to badness]] badness [[{{Satan}} Devil of the Marvel Multiverse.]] Multiverse]]. ]]
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[[WMG: Billy introduced Loki to [[Theater/{{Wicked}} Wicked]] ]]
* Billy is canonically fond of musicals and probably figured [[Theater/{{Wicked}} Wicked]] was perfect for Loki. It seems to have made some kind of impact on the God of Mischief since he's seen [[SingingInTheShower singing one of its songs in the shower]] in ''Loki: Agent of Asgard''.
* Billy is canonically fond of musicals and probably figured [[Theater/{{Wicked}} Wicked]] was perfect for Loki. It seems to have made some kind of impact on the God of Mischief since he's seen [[SingingInTheShower singing one of its songs in the shower]] in ''Loki: Agent of Asgard''.
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[[WMG: Billy introduced Loki to [[Theater/{{Wicked}} Wicked]] ]]
''Theatre/{{Wicked}}'']]
* Billy is canonically fond of musicals and probably figured[[Theater/{{Wicked}} Wicked]] ''Theatre/{{Wicked}}'' was perfect for Loki. It seems to have made some kind of impact on the God of Mischief since he's seen [[SingingInTheShower singing one of its songs in the shower]] in ''Loki: Agent of Asgard''.
* Billy is canonically fond of musicals and probably figured
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* [[FunnyMoments He'll also incur Loki's wrath by asking certain personal questions]]: "So that legend about you and that stallion...?"
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* [[FunnyMoments [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments He'll also incur Loki's wrath by asking certain personal questions]]: "So that legend about you and that stallion...?"
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*** Let's go with ''[[FriendlyEnemy Frenemy]]''. I mean that's what Miss America calls their relationship even [[Comicbook/{{Ultimates2015}} years]] after their stint with the team.
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*** Let's go with ''[[FriendlyEnemy Frenemy]]''. I mean that's what Miss America calls their relationship even [[Comicbook/{{Ultimates2015}} [[Comicbook/TheUltimates2015 years]] after their stint with the team.
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*** Let's go with ''{{FriendlyEnemy Frenemy}}''. I mean that's what Miss America calls their relationship even [[Comicbook/Ultimates2015 years]] after their stint with the team.
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*** Let's go with ''{{FriendlyEnemy Frenemy}}''. ''[[FriendlyEnemy Frenemy]]''. I mean that's what Miss America calls their relationship even [[Comicbook/Ultimates2015 [[Comicbook/{{Ultimates2015}} years]] after their stint with the team.
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* Jossed.
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* Partially confirmed. Eventually Cassie did come back in Comicbook/{{Axis}} but she isn't evil.
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*** Let's go with ''{{FriendlyEnemy Frenemy}}''. I mean that's what Miss America calls their relationship even [[Comicbook/Ultimates2015 years]] after their stint with the team.
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* Jossed. Kid Loki is still dead. As is original Loki. Loki successfully Loki'd themself.
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* Confirmed, but completely differently [[spoiler: In the end Loki defeats evil Leah and actually becoems a hero, but at the cost of coming clear about all his manipulations an having to finally face his guilt over Kid Loki's death and the shame forces him out of the team]].
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* Confirmed, but completely differently [[spoiler: In the end Loki defeats evil Leah and actually becoems becomes a hero, but at the cost of coming clear about all his manipulations an having to finally face his guilt over Kid Loki's death and the shame forces him out of the team]].
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From the events of JournyIntoMystery, Loki seems to have come full-circle and destroyed any chance of redemption [[spoiler: through the murder of his young self]]. But by now he's sick and tired of being the villain, which he now realizes is a doomed and static state of being. Loki wants to break out of his role, but knows that any attempt of pulling a full HeelFaceTurn would [[GenreSavvy fall flat on its face due to narrative causality]]. He therefore put himself into the role of [[TricksterMentor morally-ambiguous mentor]] to a RealityWarper and his friends, the only people who could conceivably help him break out of his role. Through their influence and his place among a team of white hats, Loki can finally change himself and his role in the Marvel Universe for good.
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From the events of JournyIntoMystery, Loki seems to have come full-circle and destroyed any chance of redemption [[spoiler: through the murder of his young self]]. But by now he's sick and tired of being the villain, which he now realizes is a doomed and static state of being. Loki wants to break out of his role, but knows that any attempt of pulling a full HeelFaceTurn would [[GenreSavvy fall flat on its face due to narrative causality]]. causality. He therefore put himself into the role of [[TricksterMentor morally-ambiguous mentor]] to a RealityWarper and his friends, the only people who could conceivably help him break out of his role. Through their influence and his place among a team of white hats, Loki can finally change himself and his role in the Marvel Universe for good.
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* It's worth noting that when Wanda created the ''House of M'' alternate reality, [[spoiler: the skrulls that had already secretly started infiltrating Earth were aware of the change and noted that it was "paper thin". That would imply that even her power to alter reality cannot do so unnoticed by beings from outside of a certain sphere of influence. Presumably because that ''would'' require changing the past for ''everyone'' in the ''universe'', not just on Earth. Billy changing the history of aliens from other galaxies, decades in the past, to retroactively produce an outcome not even anticipated by him is a bit of a stretch. After all, there is no indication that he has ever been a particularly big fanboy of Captain Mar-vell, or that he even knew who Princess Anelle was. Creating a PrinceCharming with a more terrestrial origin would be a ''lot'' more plausible]].
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[[WMG: ScarletWitch and Rebecca Kaplan will meet...]]
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[[WMG: ScarletWitch ComicBook/ScarletWitch and Rebecca Kaplan will meet...]]
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* Jossed in this series. Loki genuinely tried to go back to villainy (because he hated himself for the whole [[spoiler:killing Kid!Loki]] thing), but found that he can't.
* But also confirmed as this stunt lead to this plan later.
* But also confirmed as this stunt lead to this plan later.
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* Jossed.
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** Made some kind of impact is an understatement. You can map the characters (albeit the casting shifts as the story progresses) and most of the songs (even if slightly out of order) on that series.
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** There was if you count Loki's [[Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard solo series]]. It literally opens with it and some even go so far to suggest WholePlotReference.
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[[WMG: The reason why Tommy isn't in the new YoungAvengers volume...]]
* He joined the official NewAvengers lineup.
* He joined the official NewAvengers lineup.
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[[WMG: The reason why Tommy isn't in the new YoungAvengers ComicBook/YoungAvengers volume...]]
* He joined the officialNewAvengers ComicBook/NewAvengers lineup.
* He joined the official
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In ''The Vision and the Scarlet Witch'', Dr. Strange specifically stated that there was only supposed to be one child and his instruments did not detect another baby up until Billy's birth. Since Billy has been revealed to be the Demiurge, it's very likely that [[MyOwnGrandpa future Billy planted himself into Wanda's womb]] and [[StableTimeLoop inserted into the Maximoff-Williams family as a means by which to set the creation of the Demiurge in motion]].
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In ''The Vision and the Scarlet Witch'', Dr. Strange specifically stated that there was only supposed to be one child and his instruments did not detect another baby up until Billy's birth. Since Billy has been revealed to be the Demiurge, it's very likely that [[MyOwnGrandpa future Billy planted himself into Wanda's womb]] and [[StableTimeLoop inserted into the Maximoff-Williams family as a means by which to set the creation of the Demiurge in motion]].motion]].
[[WMG: This is all the Demiurge's Batman Gambit to defeat Mephisto]]
The Demiurge has been reborn during each universe cycle and is defeated and absorbed into Mephisto then reborn as the Scarlet Witch's son and later as Wiccan. However the Demiurge in current/previous cycle created Utopia in the hope that someone (America Chavez) would be born and be able to remind his current incarnation of his powers to allow him to understand his powers better and therefore be able to defeat Mephisto and break the cycle that he is trapped in.
[[WMG: This is all the Demiurge's Batman Gambit to defeat Mephisto]]
The Demiurge has been reborn during each universe cycle and is defeated and absorbed into Mephisto then reborn as the Scarlet Witch's son and later as Wiccan. However the Demiurge in current/previous cycle created Utopia in the hope that someone (America Chavez) would be born and be able to remind his current incarnation of his powers to allow him to understand his powers better and therefore be able to defeat Mephisto and break the cycle that he is trapped in.
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Yeah, I'm not buying it. And I am really hoping that this theory is not {{Jossed}} by WordOfGod or future events, [[spoiler:if only because, as heartwarming as the scene where Teddy says he doesn't care either way is, Teddy being Billy's construct made specifically to love him according to what Billy wants is something that feels absolutely loaded with UnfortunateImplications.]] But maybe that's just me.
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Yeah, I'm not buying it. And I am really hoping that this theory is not {{Jossed}} by WordOfGod or future events, [[spoiler:if only because, as heartwarming as the scene where Teddy says he doesn't care either way is, Teddy being Billy's construct made specifically to love him according to what Billy wants is something that feels absolutely loaded with UnfortunateImplications.]] But maybe that's just me.me.
[[WMG: Billy is not really Wanda and Vision's son]]
In ''The Vision and the Scarlet Witch'', Dr. Strange specifically stated that there was only supposed to be one child and his instruments did not detect another baby up until Billy's birth. Since Billy has been revealed to be the Demiurge, it's very likely that [[MyOwnGrandpa future Billy planted himself into Wanda's womb]] and [[StableTimeLoop inserted into the Maximoff-Williams family as a means by which to set the creation of the Demiurge in motion]].
[[WMG: Billy is not really Wanda and Vision's son]]
In ''The Vision and the Scarlet Witch'', Dr. Strange specifically stated that there was only supposed to be one child and his instruments did not detect another baby up until Billy's birth. Since Billy has been revealed to be the Demiurge, it's very likely that [[MyOwnGrandpa future Billy planted himself into Wanda's womb]] and [[StableTimeLoop inserted into the Maximoff-Williams family as a means by which to set the creation of the Demiurge in motion]].
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[[WMG: Teddy is ''not'' [[spoiler:a product of Billy's [[RealityWarper Reality Warping]] powers]]]]
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[[WMG: Teddy is ''not'' [[spoiler:a product of Billy's [[RealityWarper Reality Warping]] powers]]]]powers]].]]
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No, [[spoiler:to get Teddy as he is, Billy would have had to create Teddy's ''very complicated'' family history. He would have had to decide, subconsciously, that his perfect PrinceCharming is a Skrull-Kree hybrid. Which, okay, nothing wrong with that, and Teddy ''is'' the heir to both the Skrull and Kree empires... which means that he could eventually be separated from Billy entirely. Hell, it already almost happened. And being apart from Teddy, possibly permanently, or losing him to the responsibilities that generally come with being in charge of at least one entire species that is really excited about killing humans and Teddy's ''other'' half of the genetic family tree, is presumably not in the whole 'perfect PrinceCharming romance' plan]].
On top of that, Teddy being heir to ''two empires'' would involve [[spoiler:manipulating a whole ''crapton'' of huge events and powerful people in ways that would have a massive impact on the future of the universe and the future of multiple species therein. And Billy would have had to do it ''retroactively'', which means changing the past, because all of those things happened before Billy was even born. Yes, Billy ''can'' do that -- now, as the Demiurge -- but seriously? All of that? Unconsciously? Before he ''even knew he could change reality''? [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And without glowing blue and chanting a lot]]?]]
I'm not buying it. And I am really hoping that this theory is not {{Jossed}} by WordOfGod or future events, [[spoiler:if only because, as heartwarming as the scene where Teddy says he doesn't care is, Teddy being Billy's construct made specifically to love him is something that feels absolutely loaded with UnfortunateImplications. But maybe that's just me.]]
On top of that, Teddy being heir to ''two empires'' would involve [[spoiler:manipulating a whole ''crapton'' of huge events and powerful people in ways that would have a massive impact on the future of the universe and the future of multiple species therein. And Billy would have had to do it ''retroactively'', which means changing the past, because all of those things happened before Billy was even born. Yes, Billy ''can'' do that -- now, as the Demiurge -- but seriously? All of that? Unconsciously? Before he ''even knew he could change reality''? [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And without glowing blue and chanting a lot]]?]]
I'm not buying it. And I am really hoping that this theory is not {{Jossed}} by WordOfGod or future events, [[spoiler:if only because, as heartwarming as the scene where Teddy says he doesn't care is, Teddy being Billy's construct made specifically to love him is something that feels absolutely loaded with UnfortunateImplications. But maybe that's just me.]]
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No, [[spoiler:to get Teddy as he is, Billy would have had to create Teddy's ''very complicated'' family history. He would have had to decide, subconsciously, that his perfect PrinceCharming is a Skrull-Kree hybrid. Which, okay, nothing wrong with that, and but that's pretty damn specific. Of course, Teddy ''is'' the heir to both the Skrull and Kree empires... which empires and at first that sounds pretty cool... but it means that he could eventually be separated from Billy entirely. Hell, it it's already almost happened. And being apart from Teddy, possibly permanently, or losing him to the responsibilities that generally come with being in charge of at least one entire species that is really excited about killing both humans and Teddy's ''other'' half of the genetic family tree, is presumably not in the whole 'perfect PrinceCharming romance' plan]].
On top But okay, let's say that all of that, the above really ''is'' [[spoiler:what Billy wanted]]. So what does that mean? Teddy being heir to ''two empires'' -- especially those particular two empires -- would involve [[spoiler:manipulating [[spoiler:Billy manipulating a whole ''crapton'' of huge huge, very specific events and significant, powerful people (Wanda included) in ways that would have a massive impact on the future of the universe and the future of multiple species therein. And Billy would have had to do it ''retroactively'', which means changing the past, because all of those things happened before Billy was even born. Yes, Billy ''can'' do that -- now, as the Demiurge -- but seriously? All of that? Unconsciously? Before he ''even knew he could had powers at all'', let alone change reality''? reality? [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And without glowing blue and chanting a lot]]?]]
[[spoiler:At least with Wanda's subconscious use of reality warping, she's had her powers for years and has been using them for years, meaning they have had a lot of time to mature and grow, and her instincts have had a lot of time to get used to those powers. Billy hadn't even ''used'' his, or at most had only been aware of them for a ''very'' short time. On top of that, Billy's powers haven't been static, they've been steadily growing. Meaning that he is ''way'' more powerful now than he was when he was first introduced, yet we're supposed to believe that he pulled off making ''all of that happen'' before he'd ever so much as thrown off a spark, and that he did it unknowingly, without showing a hint of power, just with some formless, ''subconscious'' wish to fall in love with a PrinceCharming?]]
Yeah, I'm not buying it. And I am really hoping that this theory is not {{Jossed}} by WordOfGod or future events, [[spoiler:if only because, as heartwarming as the scene where Teddy says he doesn't care either way is, Teddy being Billy's construct made specifically to love him according to what Billy wants is something that feels absolutely loaded withUnfortunateImplications. UnfortunateImplications.]] But maybe that's just me.]]
[[spoiler:At least with Wanda's subconscious use of reality warping, she's had her powers for years and has been using them for years, meaning they have had a lot of time to mature and grow, and her instincts have had a lot of time to get used to those powers. Billy hadn't even ''used'' his, or at most had only been aware of them for a ''very'' short time. On top of that, Billy's powers haven't been static, they've been steadily growing. Meaning that he is ''way'' more powerful now than he was when he was first introduced, yet we're supposed to believe that he pulled off making ''all of that happen'' before he'd ever so much as thrown off a spark, and that he did it unknowingly, without showing a hint of power, just with some formless, ''subconscious'' wish to fall in love with a PrinceCharming?]]
Yeah, I'm not buying it. And I am really hoping that this theory is not {{Jossed}} by WordOfGod or future events, [[spoiler:if only because, as heartwarming as the scene where Teddy says he doesn't care either way is, Teddy being Billy's construct made specifically to love him according to what Billy wants is something that feels absolutely loaded with
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* Billy is canonically fond of musicals and probably figured [[Theater/{{Wicked}} Wicked]] was perfect for Loki. It seems to have made some kind of impact on the God of Mischief since he's seen [[SingingInTheShower singing one of its songs in the shower]] in ''Loki: Agent of Asgard''.
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* Billy is canonically fond of musicals and probably figured [[Theater/{{Wicked}} Wicked]] was perfect for Loki. It seems to have made some kind of impact on the God of Mischief since he's seen [[SingingInTheShower singing one of its songs in the shower]] in ''Loki: Agent of Asgard''.Asgard''.
[[WMG: Teddy is ''not'' [[spoiler:a product of Billy's [[RealityWarper Reality Warping]] powers]]]]
Loki was either lying or mistaken. Probably the former, though.
The logistics involved in [[spoiler:Billy warping reality to create Teddy]] are kind of nuts. And while 'nuts' isn't exactly a new things for comics, this is a special kind of ''what the hell''.
So Billy [[spoiler:wanted to create the perfect PrinceCharming]]. Fine. But Teddy isn't just an {{Adorkable}} mutant with awesome parents who live in a suburb or whatever. Hell, he isn't even an {{Adorkable}} billionaire's kid whose mutant power was shapeshifting, if [[spoiler:Billy really wanted to go with the usual 'ideal man' of romance tropes]].
No, [[spoiler:to get Teddy as he is, Billy would have had to create Teddy's ''very complicated'' family history. He would have had to decide, subconsciously, that his perfect PrinceCharming is a Skrull-Kree hybrid. Which, okay, nothing wrong with that, and Teddy ''is'' the heir to both the Skrull and Kree empires... which means that he could eventually be separated from Billy entirely. Hell, it already almost happened. And being apart from Teddy, possibly permanently, or losing him to the responsibilities that generally come with being in charge of at least one entire species that is really excited about killing humans and Teddy's ''other'' half of the genetic family tree, is presumably not in the whole 'perfect PrinceCharming romance' plan]].
On top of that, Teddy being heir to ''two empires'' would involve [[spoiler:manipulating a whole ''crapton'' of huge events and powerful people in ways that would have a massive impact on the future of the universe and the future of multiple species therein. And Billy would have had to do it ''retroactively'', which means changing the past, because all of those things happened before Billy was even born. Yes, Billy ''can'' do that -- now, as the Demiurge -- but seriously? All of that? Unconsciously? Before he ''even knew he could change reality''? [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And without glowing blue and chanting a lot]]?]]
I'm not buying it. And I am really hoping that this theory is not {{Jossed}} by WordOfGod or future events, [[spoiler:if only because, as heartwarming as the scene where Teddy says he doesn't care is, Teddy being Billy's construct made specifically to love him is something that feels absolutely loaded with UnfortunateImplications. But maybe that's just me.]]
[[WMG: Teddy is ''not'' [[spoiler:a product of Billy's [[RealityWarper Reality Warping]] powers]]]]
Loki was either lying or mistaken. Probably the former, though.
The logistics involved in [[spoiler:Billy warping reality to create Teddy]] are kind of nuts. And while 'nuts' isn't exactly a new things for comics, this is a special kind of ''what the hell''.
So Billy [[spoiler:wanted to create the perfect PrinceCharming]]. Fine. But Teddy isn't just an {{Adorkable}} mutant with awesome parents who live in a suburb or whatever. Hell, he isn't even an {{Adorkable}} billionaire's kid whose mutant power was shapeshifting, if [[spoiler:Billy really wanted to go with the usual 'ideal man' of romance tropes]].
No, [[spoiler:to get Teddy as he is, Billy would have had to create Teddy's ''very complicated'' family history. He would have had to decide, subconsciously, that his perfect PrinceCharming is a Skrull-Kree hybrid. Which, okay, nothing wrong with that, and Teddy ''is'' the heir to both the Skrull and Kree empires... which means that he could eventually be separated from Billy entirely. Hell, it already almost happened. And being apart from Teddy, possibly permanently, or losing him to the responsibilities that generally come with being in charge of at least one entire species that is really excited about killing humans and Teddy's ''other'' half of the genetic family tree, is presumably not in the whole 'perfect PrinceCharming romance' plan]].
On top of that, Teddy being heir to ''two empires'' would involve [[spoiler:manipulating a whole ''crapton'' of huge events and powerful people in ways that would have a massive impact on the future of the universe and the future of multiple species therein. And Billy would have had to do it ''retroactively'', which means changing the past, because all of those things happened before Billy was even born. Yes, Billy ''can'' do that -- now, as the Demiurge -- but seriously? All of that? Unconsciously? Before he ''even knew he could change reality''? [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And without glowing blue and chanting a lot]]?]]
I'm not buying it. And I am really hoping that this theory is not {{Jossed}} by WordOfGod or future events, [[spoiler:if only because, as heartwarming as the scene where Teddy says he doesn't care is, Teddy being Billy's construct made specifically to love him is something that feels absolutely loaded with UnfortunateImplications. But maybe that's just me.]]
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For those not in the know, New Avengers #8 has [[spoiler:[[GuardianOfTheMultiverse The Living Tribunal]]]] passed out, or possibly outright killed. Since he's second in power and rank to [[spoiler:[[{{God}} The One Above All]] ]], and so high-up that he doesn't care what Thanos [[TheOmnipotent with the Infinity Gauntlet]] does, what could even knock him out? Either something [[RealityBreakingParadox really WRONG]] is happening with TheMultiverse, or there's a being on [[spoiler:The Tribunal's]] level who hasn't appeared. FearItself has established that there is a Devil who's been gone so long nobody is sure he ever existed, and that his throne is something no demon dare sit on. This includes beings such as [[SatanicArchetype Mephisto]] and [[MultiversalConqueror Dormammu]]. Any Devil with that street cred is one of the most powerful beings in all of Marvel, and probably the only one who stands a chance of even knocking out [[spoiler:The Living Tribunal.]] What role he, she or it has been playing in the chaos across the multiverse is unknown, but whatever the case be afriad. '''[[FridgeHorror Be]] [[GodOfEvil very]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt afraid.]]'''
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For those not in the know, New Avengers #8 has [[spoiler:[[GuardianOfTheMultiverse The Living Tribunal]]]] passed out, or possibly outright killed. Since he's second in power and rank to [[spoiler:[[{{God}} The One Above All]] ]], and so high-up that he doesn't care what Thanos [[TheOmnipotent with the Infinity Gauntlet]] does, what could even knock him out? Either something [[RealityBreakingParadox really WRONG]] is happening with TheMultiverse, or there's a being on [[spoiler:The Tribunal's]] level who hasn't appeared. FearItself ''Comicbook/FearItself'' has established that there is a Devil who's been gone so long nobody is sure he ever existed, and that his throne is something no demon dare sit on. This includes beings such as [[SatanicArchetype Mephisto]] and [[MultiversalConqueror Dormammu]]. Any Devil with that street cred is one of the most powerful beings in all of Marvel, and probably the only one who stands a chance of even knocking out [[spoiler:The Living Tribunal.]] What role he, she or it has been playing in the chaos across the multiverse is unknown, but whatever the case be afriad. '''[[FridgeHorror Be]] [[GodOfEvil very]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt afraid.]]'''
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[[WMG: Billy introduced Loki to [[Theater/{{Wicked}}]] ]]
* Billy is canonically fond of musicals and probably figured [[Theater/{{Wicked}}]] was perfect for Loki. It seems to have made some kind of impact on the God of Mischief since he's seen [[SingingInTheShower singing one of its songs in the shower]] in ''Loki: Agent of Asgard''.
* Billy is canonically fond of musicals and probably figured [[Theater/{{Wicked}}]] was perfect for Loki. It seems to have made some kind of impact on the God of Mischief since he's seen [[SingingInTheShower singing one of its songs in the shower]] in ''Loki: Agent of Asgard''.
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[[WMG: Billy introduced Loki to [[Theater/{{Wicked}}]] [[Theater/{{Wicked}} Wicked]] ]]
* Billy is canonically fond of musicals and probably figured[[Theater/{{Wicked}}]] [[Theater/{{Wicked}} Wicked]] was perfect for Loki. It seems to have made some kind of impact on the God of Mischief since he's seen [[SingingInTheShower singing one of its songs in the shower]] in ''Loki: Agent of Asgard''.
* Billy is canonically fond of musicals and probably figured
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* Jossed, in that [[spoiler: Billy-as-Demiurge creates her home dimension and thus the Demiurge is revered as a god there. Thus America idolised him. She ran away from home after her two mothers died]].
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* Jossed, in that [[spoiler: Billy-as-Demiurge creates her home dimension and thus the Demiurge is revered as a god there. Thus America idolised him. She ran away from home after her two mothers died]].died]].
[[WMG: Billy introduced Loki to [[Theater/{{Wicked}}]] ]]
* Billy is canonically fond of musicals and probably figured [[Theater/{{Wicked}}]] was perfect for Loki. It seems to have made some kind of impact on the God of Mischief since he's seen [[SingingInTheShower singing one of its songs in the shower]] in ''Loki: Agent of Asgard''.
[[WMG: Billy introduced Loki to [[Theater/{{Wicked}}]] ]]
* Billy is canonically fond of musicals and probably figured [[Theater/{{Wicked}}]] was perfect for Loki. It seems to have made some kind of impact on the God of Mischief since he's seen [[SingingInTheShower singing one of its songs in the shower]] in ''Loki: Agent of Asgard''.
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* Jossed, in that [[spoiler: Billy-as-Demiurge creates her home world dimension and thus the Demiurge is revered as a god there. Thus America idolised him. She ran away from home after her two mothers died]].
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She knows a lot more about Billy than she's letting on and a preview flashback reveals that she had a copy of Billy's costume as a child. Kieron Gillen has stated that the final two issues of his run will reveal a major secret about her that will change the reader's perception about her.
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She knows a lot more about Billy than she's letting on and a preview flashback reveals that she had a copy of Billy's costume as a child. Kieron Gillen has stated that the final two issues of his run will reveal a major secret about her that will change the reader's perception about her.her.
* Jossed, in that Billy-as-Demiurge creates her home world and thus the Demiurge is revered as a god there. Thus America idolised him.
* Jossed, in that Billy-as-Demiurge creates her home world and thus the Demiurge is revered as a god there. Thus America idolised him.
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[[WMG: Tommy is trapped inside Patriot's suit]]
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[[WMG: Tommy is trapped inside Patriot's suit]]suit]]
[[WMG:America is actually an alternate construct of Billy's.]]
She knows a lot more about Billy than she's letting on and a preview flashback reveals that she had a copy of Billy's costume as a child. Kieron Gillen has stated that the final two issues of his run will reveal a major secret about her that will change the reader's perception about her.
[[WMG:America is actually an alternate construct of Billy's.]]
She knows a lot more about Billy than she's letting on and a preview flashback reveals that she had a copy of Billy's costume as a child. Kieron Gillen has stated that the final two issues of his run will reveal a major secret about her that will change the reader's perception about her.
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I dont really have a good explanation for this
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For those not in the know, New Avengers #8 has [[spoiler:[[GuardianOfTheMultiverse The Living Tribunal]]]] passed out, or possibly outright killed. Since he's second in power and rank to [[spoiler:[[{{God}} The One Above All]] ]], and so high-up that he doesn't care what Thanos [[TheOmnipotent with the Infinity Gauntlet]] does, what could even knock him out? Either something [[RealityBreakingParadox really WRONG]] is happening with TheMultiverse, or there's a being on [[spoiler:The Tribunal's]] level who hasn't appeared. FearItself has established that there is a Devil who's been gone so long nobody is sure he ever existed, and that his throne is something no demon dare sit on. This includes beings such as [[SatanicArchetype Mephisto]] and [[MultiversalConqueror Dormammu]]. Any Devil with that street cred is one of the most powerful beings in all of Marvel, and probably the only one who stands a chance of even knocking out [[spoiler:The Living Tribunal.]] What role he, she or it has been playing in the chaos across the multiverse is unknown, but whatever the case be afriad. '''[[FridgeHorror Be]] [[GodOfEvil very]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt afraid.]]'''
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For those not in the know, New Avengers #8 has [[spoiler:[[GuardianOfTheMultiverse The Living Tribunal]]]] passed out, or possibly outright killed. Since he's second in power and rank to [[spoiler:[[{{God}} The One Above All]] ]], and so high-up that he doesn't care what Thanos [[TheOmnipotent with the Infinity Gauntlet]] does, what could even knock him out? Either something [[RealityBreakingParadox really WRONG]] is happening with TheMultiverse, or there's a being on [[spoiler:The Tribunal's]] level who hasn't appeared. FearItself has established that there is a Devil who's been gone so long nobody is sure he ever existed, and that his throne is something no demon dare sit on. This includes beings such as [[SatanicArchetype Mephisto]] and [[MultiversalConqueror Dormammu]]. Any Devil with that street cred is one of the most powerful beings in all of Marvel, and probably the only one who stands a chance of even knocking out [[spoiler:The Living Tribunal.]] What role he, she or it has been playing in the chaos across the multiverse is unknown, but whatever the case be afriad. '''[[FridgeHorror Be]] [[GodOfEvil very]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt afraid.]]''']]'''
[[WMG: Tommy is trapped inside Patriot's suit]]
[[WMG: Tommy is trapped inside Patriot's suit]]
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* Confirmed, but completely differently [[spoiler: In the end Loki defeats evil Leah and actually becoems a hero, but at the cost of coming clear about all his manipulations an having to finally face his guilt over Kid Loki's death and the shame forces him out of the team]].
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For those not in the know, New Avengers #8 has [[spoiler:[[GuardianOfTheMultiverse The Living Tribunal]]]] passed out, or possibly outright killed. Since he's second in power and rank to [[spoiler:[[{{God}} The One Above All]] ]], and so high-up that he doesn't care what Thanos [[ThanosImperative with the Infinity Gauntlet]] does, what could even knock him out? Either something [[RealityBreakingParadox really WRONG]] is happening with TheMultiverse, or there's a being on [[spoiler:The Tribunal's]] level who hasn't appeared. FearItself has established that there is a Devil who's been gone so long nobody is sure he ever existed, and that his throne is something no demon dare sit on. This includes beings such as [[SatanicArchetype Mephisto]] and [[MultiversalConqueror Dormammu]]. Any Devil with that street cred is one of the most powerful beings in all of Marvel, and probably the only one who stands a chance of even knocking out [[spoiler:The Living Tribunal.]] What role he, she or it has been playing in the chaos across the multiverse is unknown, but whatever the case be afriad. '''[[FridgeHorror Be]] [[GodOfEvil very]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt afraid.]]'''
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For those not in the know, New Avengers #8 has [[spoiler:[[GuardianOfTheMultiverse The Living Tribunal]]]] passed out, or possibly outright killed. Since he's second in power and rank to [[spoiler:[[{{God}} The One Above All]] ]], and so high-up that he doesn't care what Thanos [[ThanosImperative [[TheOmnipotent with the Infinity Gauntlet]] does, what could even knock him out? Either something [[RealityBreakingParadox really WRONG]] is happening with TheMultiverse, or there's a being on [[spoiler:The Tribunal's]] level who hasn't appeared. FearItself has established that there is a Devil who's been gone so long nobody is sure he ever existed, and that his throne is something no demon dare sit on. This includes beings such as [[SatanicArchetype Mephisto]] and [[MultiversalConqueror Dormammu]]. Any Devil with that street cred is one of the most powerful beings in all of Marvel, and probably the only one who stands a chance of even knocking out [[spoiler:The Living Tribunal.]] What role he, she or it has been playing in the chaos across the multiverse is unknown, but whatever the case be afriad. '''[[FridgeHorror Be]] [[GodOfEvil very]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt afraid.]]'''
