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[[WMG:Harper will win the contest and be the wizard.]]
Using some insane rule that the audience isn't told about until it happens.
Using some insane rule that the audience isn't told about until it happens.
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[[WMG: The Crumbs seen in the season 4 premiere isn't the real Crumbs]]
There's been a coup in the Wizard World, and the whole government conspiracy thing was a failed attempt to neutralize the Russos, who are Crumbs' most powerful allies. By the time the Russos escaped, the enemy had firmly established his power base, and decided the Russos could be made a manageable threat by sending Alex and Justin back to level one and leaving Max at his current level. At present, they are the Wizard World's best hope.
There's been a coup in the Wizard World, and the whole government conspiracy thing was a failed attempt to neutralize the Russos, who are Crumbs' most powerful allies. By the time the Russos escaped, the enemy had firmly established his power base, and decided the Russos could be made a manageable threat by sending Alex and Justin back to level one and leaving Max at his current level. At present, they are the Wizard World's best hope.
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[[WMG: Near the end of season 4, the Russo kids will accidentally free a SealedEvilInACan.]]
And we'll learn that said SealedEvilInACan is somehow responsible for creating the "One wizard per family" rule, and the series finale will have Alex, Justin and Max have to fight the SealedEvilInACan before it destroys and/or takes over the world.
And we'll learn that said SealedEvilInACan is somehow responsible for creating the "One wizard per family" rule, and the series finale will have Alex, Justin and Max have to fight the SealedEvilInACan before it destroys and/or takes over the world.
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[[WMG: The wizard competition is a test of family loyalty. No one will lose their powers in the end]]
* Or the one who displays the lowest level of loyalty will lose their powers.
* Or the one who displays the lowest level of loyalty will lose their powers.
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NamesTheSame, they're both British, and, well, [[YouShouldKnowThisAlready the werewolf thing]].
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NamesTheSame, they're both British, and, well, [[YouShouldKnowThisAlready the werewolf thing]].thing.
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[[WMG: Stevie will return as a ghost in season 4 and possess Alex's body in another attempt to make the Wizard Revolution happen.]]
Doesn't that sound like it could be an awesome plot for a two-part episode?
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*** She has also expressed some fascination with magic, or approves it(Like in Alex's Quinceañera), and in others has expressed a desire of doing magic herself(Max's New Grilfriend, Alex catches her enjoying the fake flying carpet and calls her out on this. She doesn't deny it and keeps playing with it)
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*** In the beginning, she acts like she hates them. She only softens and realizes how much she screwed up when they don't remember her... and has the possibility of disappear. In the series, she at least likes to tease/torture Justin, and, unless having something else(a date, party or whatever) she doesn't mind spending time with her parents. Here she doesn't want to be anywhere nearby them.
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* If they just need to pass, why is it a ''competition?''
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* There has never had any sort of problem with magic in the series, except when it's dangerous or affecting them in a negative way. Most of the time she's either supportive or doesn't care, and only ''very''' rarely she complains. In the movie, she is very much against all kinds of magic.
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* There Theresa has never had any sort of problem with magic in the series, except when it's dangerous or affecting them in a negative way. Most of the time she's either supportive or doesn't care, and only ''very''' rarely she complains. In the movie, she is very much against all kinds of magic.magic.
** Actually, she has said that she doesn't really like magic and repeated that she promised Jerry that she wouldn't badmouth it.
** Actually, she has said that she doesn't really like magic and repeated that she promised Jerry that she wouldn't badmouth it.
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** She doesn't hate them in the movie. She does hate spending time with them, true. But I'm pretty sure that she'd feel the same in the show.
* Justin expresses that Alex has a more natural talent for magic, and that he always has to work hard to get results, but in several episodes, the opposite isshow/said(Alex shown/said (Alex just gets by, while Justin is said to be a great wizard)wizard).
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* The family wand and the book of forbidden spells aren't mentioned in the series(Might series (might be wrong on this one)one).
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*** If max is intelligent, [[FridgeHorror then that means that everything he did was intentional.]]
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*** Who's had more time to prepare. And luck'll probably be on his side this time.
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** How?
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*** That could be a valid explanation, but if they can make an "older" version where the powers go to one sibling instantly, why they would need a machine, which, BTW, is easily to manipulate into malfunctioning.
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** I assumed the Wizard competition we saw in the movie is an older version of the test, and the actual test is more modern. Jerry simply put Alex and Justin through the older version due to his memories having been altered by Alex's spell.
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** There's also the fact that none of the kids (who remember what happened) ever mention any of the events of the movie. Can you really see Alex beating Justin and never gloating about it? Also all of them still act as if it's almost a foregone conclusion that Justin will be the Wizard of the family which if Alex beat him once would hardly be the case.
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[[WMG: The Movie takes place in an AlternateUniverse]]
The only logical explanation for a lot of discrepancies with the series:
* There has never had any sort of problem with magic in the series, except when it's dangerous or affecting them in a negative way. Most of the time she's either supportive or doesn't care, and only ''very''' rarely she complains. In the movie, she is very much against all kinds of magic.
* Alex, while embarrassed of her family, shows that she truly cares for them, and doesn't mind hanging around them. In the movie, she basically hates all of them, or at least, spending any amount of time with them.
* Justin expresses that Alex has a more natural talent for magic, and that he always has to work hard to get results, but in several episodes, the opposite is show/said(Alex just gets by, while Justin is said to be a great wizard)
* Max is ''way'' more reliable and creative than he is in the series.
* The family wand and the book of forbidden spells aren't mentioned in the series(Might be wrong on this one)
* And finally, the Wizard contest is very different at how is portrayed in the series, or at least the results. The loser(s) have to use a machine to pass their powers to the sibling who won(Who gets a NiceHat saying "Full Wizard"), but in the movie it happens the moment the competition is over.
The only logical explanation for a lot of discrepancies with the series:
* There has never had any sort of problem with magic in the series, except when it's dangerous or affecting them in a negative way. Most of the time she's either supportive or doesn't care, and only ''very''' rarely she complains. In the movie, she is very much against all kinds of magic.
* Alex, while embarrassed of her family, shows that she truly cares for them, and doesn't mind hanging around them. In the movie, she basically hates all of them, or at least, spending any amount of time with them.
* Justin expresses that Alex has a more natural talent for magic, and that he always has to work hard to get results, but in several episodes, the opposite is show/said(Alex just gets by, while Justin is said to be a great wizard)
* Max is ''way'' more reliable and creative than he is in the series.
* The family wand and the book of forbidden spells aren't mentioned in the series(Might be wrong on this one)
* And finally, the Wizard contest is very different at how is portrayed in the series, or at least the results. The loser(s) have to use a machine to pass their powers to the sibling who won(Who gets a NiceHat saying "Full Wizard"), but in the movie it happens the moment the competition is over.
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**Also, Alex didn't get sucked up by the tornado-thing like Justin and Max did in the movie. Max was first, because he was youngest, next should have been Alex, but it was Justin. Adopted? Maayybbee!
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*But people who lose the competition lose their powers. Eg, Megan has no magic.
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***The second movie is supposed to be about life after the competition. I can't see that being exciting unless they all have magic, and seeing as the competition is going to be at the end of season 4... Yeah, I agree with both of the above tropers.
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*A statement was made my the creator that Max was going to be more of a contender in season 4. This COULD tip the whole thing over.
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There's so much set up (they have their own [[BrotherSisterIncest/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace page]]) that some fans have difficulty thinking that they're NOT going to go this route.
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There's so much set up (they have their own [[BrotherSisterIncest/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace [[IncestYay/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace page]]) that some fans have difficulty thinking that they're NOT going to go this route.
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This theory was deleted, but I liked it, so I'm doing it as a "they intended to do this, but it was written out" thing.
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[[WMG: The original intended ending was for Justin to be appointed Wizard when he saves his family and Juliet from the Mummy.]]
This is based on a few things. First off, they can't do the official test again in the show, or it'll just be a retread of TheMovie with worse effects. Furthermore, for the ending to be satisfying everyone has to walk away happy, and at this point splitting up the power would seem contrived. So, the only universal happy ending would involve two of the three falling in love with mortals, so they couldn't have had the power anyway. That leaves Justin, who is already in love with a non-mortal (Juliet), and why not have him earn it saving her (and, for it to be plausible, he'd also have to save his family). However, the actress who played Juliet's career took off, and she had to be written out.
This is based on a few things. First off, they can't do the official test again in the show, or it'll just be a retread of TheMovie with worse effects. Furthermore, for the ending to be satisfying everyone has to walk away happy, and at this point splitting up the power would seem contrived. So, the only universal happy ending would involve two of the three falling in love with mortals, so they couldn't have had the power anyway. That leaves Justin, who is already in love with a non-mortal (Juliet), and why not have him earn it saving her (and, for it to be plausible, he'd also have to save his family). However, the actress who played Juliet's career took off, and she had to be written out.
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[[WMG: Human wizards were created by the [[StargateVerse Ancients]]]]
Or, more precisely, a specific Ancient, viz: Merlin. One of Merlin's early efforts to combat the Ori was to create his own version of the Priors. These were the first human wizards. Upon discovering their ability to access the Wizard World, however, they lost interest in fighting the Ori, and Merlin instead set about building his superweapon.
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Holy crap, you guys, I'm *thirty-one*.
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[[WMG: The Wizard Revolution will still happen]]
Sure they took out the ringleader. But there are still 4997 wizards out there who were all in on the plan. It's not as if they even need to make a new one: they can just find another three wizards and go through with the original plot.
Sure they took out the ringleader. But there are still 4997 wizards out there who were all in on the plan. It's not as if they even need to make a new one: they can just find another three wizards and go through with the original plot.
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*** This troper agrees, Max/Harper is pretty awesome, especially since Max hit his growth spurth.
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*** Then again, Kelbo only got his powers because Jerry gave them up. If Max does get the family powers it would probably be because the winner gave them to him because they're in love.
** Max's stupidity has mysteriously gotten rid of many antagonists on the show... It wouldn't be hard to believe that it would also beat Alex and Justin in the competition.
** Max's stupidity has mysteriously gotten rid of many antagonists on the show... It wouldn't be hard to believe that it would also beat Alex and Justin in the competition.
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** That's actually how this troper thought the show would end up. The second movie might say otherwise, however.
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*** Or maybe it was the Mummy's eyes? They were still in the area after the Mummy's destruction.
