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Now that [[spoiler:Caesar is dead]], Serkis may find himself playing other characters, possibly a grownup Cornelius. Kind fo similar to how Roddy [=McDowall=] returned to portray other ape characters in the original series.

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Now that [[spoiler:Caesar is dead]], Serkis may find himself playing other characters, possibly a grownup Cornelius. Kind fo of similar to how Roddy [=McDowall=] returned to portray other ape characters in the original series.series.

[[WMG: Malcolm was the one who tried to report the Colonel to his superiors.]]
Thank about what we know about Malcolm. Not only would he be strongly opposed to what The Colonel was doing, but if [[spoiler:Alexander and possibly Ellie]] succumbed to the mutated virus, there was no way he would sit quietly and let them be executed. Not only would he refuse to follow orders, he would report it to someone who could remove the Colonel from power.
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Now that [[spoiler:Caesar is dead]], Serbia may find himself playing other characters, possibly a grownup Cornelius. Kind fo similar to how Roddy [=McDowall=] returned to portray other ape characters in the original series.

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Now that [[spoiler:Caesar is dead]], Serbia Serkis may find himself playing other characters, possibly a grownup Cornelius. Kind fo similar to how Roddy [=McDowall=] returned to portray other ape characters in the original series.
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And somewhere along the family bloodline, one of their relatives will be named [[Series/PlanetOfTheApes Galen]].

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And somewhere along the family bloodline, one of their relatives will be named [[Series/PlanetOfTheApes Galen]].Galen]].

[[WMG: Creator/AndySerkis will return in the sequels to portray other ape characters other than Caesar.]]
Now that [[spoiler:Caesar is dead]], Serbia may find himself playing other characters, possibly a grownup Cornelius. Kind fo similar to how Roddy [=McDowall=] returned to portray other ape characters in the original series.
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[[WMG: Surviving gorilla traitors are the ancestors of the classic warmongering gorillas (like in the original franchise).]]

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[[WMG: Surviving gorilla traitors are the ancestors of the classic warmongering gorillas (like in the original franchise).]]]]

[[WMG: Caesar's [[spoiler:surviving]] son will be the ancestor of the classic Cornelius.]]
And somewhere along the family bloodline, one of their relatives will be named [[Series/PlanetOfTheApes Galen]].
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[[WMG: [[spoiler:Maurice]] becomes the new leader of the apes [[spoiler:following Caesar's death]]]]
He ends up becoming [[spoiler:the Lawgiver]] and [[spoiler: is the ancestor of Dr. Zaius]].

[[WMG: Surviving gorilla traitors are the ancestors of the warmongering gorillas from the original franchise.]]

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[[WMG: [[spoiler:Maurice]] [[spoiler:Maurice becomes the new leader of the apes [[spoiler:following following Caesar's death]]]]
He ends up becoming [[spoiler:the Lawgiver]] Lawgiver]], and [[spoiler: is the ancestor of Dr. Zaius]].

[[WMG: Surviving gorilla traitors are the ancestors of the classic warmongering gorillas from (like in the original franchise.franchise).]]
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After everything the apes experienced in the film [[spoiler: at the hands of the Alpha-Omega]], it's not unthinkable that more apes may adopt Koba's mindset with regards to humans. And there may even be Dr. Zaius-esque apes on the rise who believe it's in the best interests of the apes to either shun humans or enslave them. And even if they tolerate Nova for helping them, that tolerance may not necessarily extend to any other potential human characters in the future.

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After everything the apes experienced in the film [[spoiler: at the hands of the Alpha-Omega]], it's not unthinkable that more apes may adopt Koba's mindset with regards to humans. And there may even be Dr. Zaius-esque apes on the rise who believe it's in the best interests of the apes to either shun humans or enslave them. And even if they tolerate Nova for helping them, that tolerance may not necessarily extend to any other potential human characters in the future.future.

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Maurice]] becomes the new leader of the apes [[spoiler:following Caesar's death]]]]
He ends up becoming [[spoiler:the Lawgiver]] and [[spoiler: is the ancestor of Dr. Zaius]].

[[WMG: Surviving gorilla traitors are the ancestors of the warmongering gorillas from the original franchise.]]
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[[WMG: The apes' treatment at the hands of The Colonel and Alpha-Omega will create more Kobas in the ape colony in a sequel.]]
After everything the apes experienced in the film at the hands of the humans, it's not unthinkable that more apes may adopt Koba's mindset with regards to humans. And there may even be Dr. Zaius-esque apes on the rise who believe it's in the best interests of the apes to either shun humans or enslave them. And even if they tolerate Nova for helping them, that tolerance may not necessarily extend to any other potential human characters in the future.

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[[WMG: The apes' treatment at the hands of [[spoiler: The Colonel and Alpha-Omega Alpha-Omega]] will create more Kobas in the ape colony in a sequel.]]
After everything the apes experienced in the film [[spoiler: at the hands of the humans, Alpha-Omega]], it's not unthinkable that more apes may adopt Koba's mindset with regards to humans. And there may even be Dr. Zaius-esque apes on the rise who believe it's in the best interests of the apes to either shun humans or enslave them. And even if they tolerate Nova for helping them, that tolerance may not necessarily extend to any other potential human characters in the future.
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And, of course, the military would only be willing to do this if it was resource rich to begin with.

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And, of course, the military would only be willing to do this if it was resource rich to begin with.with.

[[WMG: The apes' treatment at the hands of The Colonel and Alpha-Omega will create more Kobas in the ape colony in a sequel.]]
After everything the apes experienced in the film at the hands of the humans, it's not unthinkable that more apes may adopt Koba's mindset with regards to humans. And there may even be Dr. Zaius-esque apes on the rise who believe it's in the best interests of the apes to either shun humans or enslave them. And even if they tolerate Nova for helping them, that tolerance may not necessarily extend to any other potential human characters in the future.
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*** But the apes do still get affected by the Simian Flu. Yet there is no positve or negative effects of the mutated virus on the apes. It stands to reason that it's a new virus.

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*** But the apes do still get affected by the Simian Flu. Yet there is no positve or negative effects of the mutated virus on the apes. It stands to reason that it's a new virus.virus.

[[WMG: The US Armed Forces are actually in better shape than is stated in the movie, and were actually trying to eliminate as many of their own infected soldiers as possible through Zerg rush tactics]]

It seems rather odd the US Army would send literally all of their available personnel to fight the Colonel (assuming he is telling the truth), and then proceed to use such obviously bad tactics like repeated strafing runs using scarce gunships on a base with anti-aircraft missiles and having the entire infantry charge up to the heavily fortified and naturally protected base...unless the objective of the US military was to dispose of their own personnel. Perhaps the strike force consisted entirely of infected, mute humans, and the military was planning on sacrificing these people to the battle. Even with such bad tactics, the military would still win, but with a high number of casualties.

And, of course, the military would only be willing to do this if it was resource rich to begin with.
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** The apes never got sick from the simian flu, like Bad Ape said "apes get smart, '''humans''' get sick." And [=McCullough=] succumbed to the virus the same night that he picked up her doll.

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** The apes never got sick from the simian flu, like Bad Ape said "apes get smart, '''humans''' get sick." And [=McCullough=] succumbed to the virus the same night that he picked up her doll.doll.
*** But the apes do still get affected by the Simian Flu. Yet there is no positve or negative effects of the mutated virus on the apes. It stands to reason that it's a new virus.

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** I think the new protagonist is going to be one of the astronauts that got lost in space in ''Rise''. Through some miracle, they manage to make it back to Earth, twenty years after ''Rise''. For once, a movie plays Einstein's Twin Paradox straight, so they've hardly aged since they've left. The main astronaut will be one of those lucky few that manage to somehow resist the virus and keep his voice.



It progresses extremely rapidly, unlike the simian flu. (McCullough goes from speaking to silent over the course of days (AT MAX), not weeks.)
It apparently doesn't affect apes AT ALL, at odds with it being derived from the simian flu. (Caesar, Luca, Rocket, Maurice, and Bad Ape all have extended (and reasonably close) contact with Nova, and none contract muteness. Caesar and Maurice even pick up her doll, an act which seems to have doomed McCullough.)

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It progresses extremely rapidly, unlike the simian flu. (McCullough ([=McCullough=] goes from speaking to silent over the course of days (AT MAX), not weeks.)
It apparently doesn't affect apes AT ALL, at odds with it being derived from the simian flu. (Caesar, Luca, Rocket, Maurice, and Bad Ape all have extended (and reasonably close) contact with Nova, and none contract muteness. Caesar and Maurice even pick up her doll, an act which seems to have doomed McCullough.)[=McCullough=].)
**The apes never got sick from the simian flu, like Bad Ape said "apes get smart, '''humans''' get sick." And [=McCullough=] succumbed to the virus the same night that he picked up her doll.
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In this continuity, at least some of the mute humans have the psionic powers the Mutants had in the original series. In Nova's case, these powers are still largely latent, but she had enough to allow her to discern the true motives of the Apes who found her.

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In this continuity, at least some of the mute humans have the psionic powers the Mutants had in the original series. In Nova's case, these powers are still largely latent, but she had enough to allow her to discern the true motives of the Apes who found her.her.

[[WMG: The disease which causes muteness isn't even the same pathogen as the simian flu.]]
It doesn't seem to operate by the destruction of the language processing centers of the brain, as a variant of the simian flu would operate. (Nova learns to sign, despite being infected.)
It progresses extremely rapidly, unlike the simian flu. (McCullough goes from speaking to silent over the course of days (AT MAX), not weeks.)
It apparently doesn't affect apes AT ALL, at odds with it being derived from the simian flu. (Caesar, Luca, Rocket, Maurice, and Bad Ape all have extended (and reasonably close) contact with Nova, and none contract muteness. Caesar and Maurice even pick up her doll, an act which seems to have doomed McCullough.)
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[[WMG: There will be a NEW Main Protagonist to replaced [[spoiler:Caesar]] for Fourth Planet of the Apes film]]
Despite War for the Planet of the Apes being a conclusion of Reboot Trilogy, it was seem as the conclusion for [[spoiler:Caesar's]] Trilogy as Fox announced Fourth Planet of the Apes film but the problem is that [[spoiler:their main protagonist, Caesar is DEAD!]] so here's likely candidate to take [[spoiler:Caesar's]] place as NEW Main Protagonist
* Cornelius- I feel he could be Michael Corleone to Caesar's Vito Corleone as he will have to live up to his father's legacy and being a great leader since he was named after Cornelius from Original Planet of the Apes but he is too young by this point.

* Bad Ape- Director says Bad Ape was meant of setting up for future Sequels and he may not fit to be the leader-material due of his personality but he would play a role of helping the Ape Colony in some way.

* New Ape Character- He would be a ContrastingSequelMainCharacter to Caesar who start out of being a rebellious toward Ape Colony and want to help Humans despite humans' harsh treatment toward them.

[[WMG: There's a shocking hidden reason why Nova seems to forgive Caesar quite quickly for slaying her caretaker]]

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[[WMG: There will be a NEW Main Protagonist main protagonist to replaced replace [[spoiler:Caesar]] for Fourth the fourth Planet of the Apes film]]
Despite War for the Planet of the Apes being a conclusion of Reboot Trilogy, it was seem as the conclusion for [[spoiler:Caesar's]] Trilogy as Fox announced Fourth Planet of the Apes reboot trilogy, Fox ''did'' announce a fourth film but the problem is that [[spoiler:their main protagonist, Caesar is DEAD!]] so here's despite [[spoiler:Caesar's death]]. The likely candidate candidates to take [[spoiler:Caesar's]] place as NEW Main Protagonist
the new main protagonist are:
* Cornelius- Cornelius - I feel he could be Michael Corleone to Caesar's Vito Corleone as he will have to live up to his father's legacy and being a great leader since he leader. He was named after Cornelius from Original the original Planet of the Apes movie, but he is too young by this point.

* Bad Ape- Director says Ape - Matt Reeves said that Bad Ape was meant of setting to set up for future Sequels and he sequels. He may not be fit to be the leader-material a leader due of to his personality personality, but he would play a role of helping the Ape Colony in some way.

* New A new Ape Character- character - He would be a ContrastingSequelMainCharacter to Caesar Caesar, who start started out of being a rebellious toward towards the Ape Colony and want wants to help Humans humans despite humans' their harsh treatment toward them.

the apes.

[[WMG: There's a shocking hidden reason why Nova seems to forgive Caesar quite quickly for slaying her caretaker]]
caretaker.]]
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* New Ape Character- He would be a ContrastingSequelMainCharacter to Caesar who start out of being a rebellious toward Ape Colony and want to help Humans despite humans' harsh treatment toward them.

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* New Ape Character- He would be a ContrastingSequelMainCharacter to Caesar who start out of being a rebellious toward Ape Colony and want to help Humans despite humans' harsh treatment toward them.them.

[[WMG: There's a shocking hidden reason why Nova seems to forgive Caesar quite quickly for slaying her caretaker]]

In this continuity, at least some of the mute humans have the psionic powers the Mutants had in the original series. In Nova's case, these powers are still largely latent, but she had enough to allow her to discern the true motives of the Apes who found her.

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* [[spoiler:Partly Jossed. Nova's speechlessness is a new affliction caused by the Simian virus re-emerging and further mutated, and is revealed to be spreading among the surviving humans again.]]
** A sequel concept could be with that sign language gone extinct among humans as society disintegrated, Nova might become the only human left who has learned to sign (albeit in the apes' method), leading to her becoming a "Moses" figure (deliberate combined [[Creator/CharltonHeston Shout-out and Mythology-gag]] there) to the surviving mute humans.


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* Bad Ape- Director says Bad Ape was meant of setting up for future Sequels and he may not fit to be the leader-material due of his personality but he would play a role of helping the Ape Colony in some way.

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* Bad Ape- Director says Bad Ape was meant of setting up for future Sequels and he may not fit to be the leader-material due of his personality but he would play a role of helping the Ape Colony in some way.way.

* New Ape Character- He would be a ContrastingSequelMainCharacter to Caesar who start out of being a rebellious toward Ape Colony and want to help Humans despite humans' harsh treatment toward them.
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** But the filmmakers could decide to set Taylor's return sooner rather than later.

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** But the filmmakers could decide to set Taylor's return sooner rather than later.later.
[[WMG: There will be a NEW Main Protagonist to replaced [[spoiler:Caesar]] for Fourth Planet of the Apes film]]
Despite War for the Planet of the Apes being a conclusion of Reboot Trilogy, it was seem as the conclusion for [[spoiler:Caesar's]] Trilogy as Fox announced Fourth Planet of the Apes film but the problem is that [[spoiler:their main protagonist, Caesar is DEAD!]] so here's likely candidate to take [[spoiler:Caesar's]] place as NEW Main Protagonist
* Cornelius- I feel he could be Michael Corleone to Caesar's Vito Corleone as he will have to live up to his father's legacy and being a great leader since he was named after Cornelius from Original Planet of the Apes but he is too young by this point.

* Bad Ape- Director says Bad Ape was meant of setting up for future Sequels and he may not fit to be the leader-material due of his personality but he would play a role of helping the Ape Colony in some way.
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* They'd both be long dead by the time Taylor arrives back on Earth, as he returns about 2000 years after he left. I think their names are just allusions to the previous characters, in the same way the Colonel's army were called 'Alpha Omega'.

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* They'd both be long dead by the time Taylor arrives back on Earth, as he returns about 2000 years after he left. I think their names are just allusions to the previous characters, in the same way the Colonel's army were called 'Alpha Omega'.Omega'.
** But the filmmakers could decide to set Taylor's return sooner rather than later.
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He, along with Nova, will be grown up once Taylor arrives back on Earth, and fulfill roles similar to those of their counterparts from the first film.

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He, along with Nova, will be grown up once Taylor arrives back on Earth, and fulfill roles similar to those of their counterparts from the first film.film.
*They'd both be long dead by the time Taylor arrives back on Earth, as he returns about 2000 years after he left. I think their names are just allusions to the previous characters, in the same way the Colonel's army were called 'Alpha Omega'.
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WordOfGod confirms that Nova is mute. If her incapability of speech is genetic, it could mean she passes it on to her children, who then become the non-speaking human species seen in the original films.

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WordOfGod confirms that Nova is mute. If her incapability of speech is genetic, it could mean she passes it on to her children, who then become the non-speaking human species seen in the original films.films.

[[WMG: Caesar's son Cornelius is a mix of Cornelius from ''Battle for the Planet of the Apes'' and the Cornelius from the first ''Planet of the Apes'' film.]]
He, along with Nova, will be grown up once Taylor arrives back on Earth, and fulfill roles similar to those of their counterparts from the first film.
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* [[Confirmed. Caesar dies from his wounds after leading his tribe to a new haven]].

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* [[Confirmed.[[spoiler:Confirmed. Caesar dies from his wounds after leading his tribe to a new haven]].
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* [[spoiler:Confirmed. He dies saving Caesar's life.]]




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* [[spoiler:Jossed. He appears in Caesar's hallucinations, but by all appearances he's truly dead.]]




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* [[spoiler:Jossed. The Colonel killed him himself]].




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* [[Confirmed. Caesar dies from his wounds after leading his tribe to a new haven]].
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I just learned that his name is actually "Red" and not "Rex."


[[WMG: Rex will undergo a HeelFaceTurn and rejoin Caesar's side]]
Towards the end of the film [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone Rex will end up regretting siding with humans]] [[DirtyCoward in exchange for his own safety]] and fight alongside the Apes during the climax of the film. He may even get a RedemptionEqualsDeath moment.

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[[WMG: Rex Red will undergo a HeelFaceTurn and rejoin Caesar's side]]
Towards the end of the film [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone Rex Red will end up regretting siding with humans]] [[DirtyCoward in exchange for his own safety]] and fight alongside the Apes during the climax of the film. He may even get a RedemptionEqualsDeath moment.
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Becoming the "Legend" that the trailers referred to him as.

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Becoming the "Legend" that the trailers referred to him as.as.

[[WMG: Nova will be the progenitor of a new species of non-speaking humans.]]
WordOfGod confirms that Nova is mute. If her incapability of speech is genetic, it could mean she passes it on to her children, who then become the non-speaking human species seen in the original films.
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[[[[TheHeroDies Caesar will die]]]]

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[[[[TheHeroDies [[WMG: [[TheHeroDies Caesar will die]]]]
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Giving him a personal hatred of Caesar and his apes.

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Giving him a personal hatred of Caesar and his apes.apes.

[[[[TheHeroDies Caesar will die]]]]
Becoming the "Legend" that the trailers referred to him as.
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Towards the end of the film [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone Rex will end up regretting siding with humans]] [[DirtyCoward in exchange for his own safety]] and fight alongside the Apes during the climax of the film. He may even get a RedemptionEqualsDeath moment.

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Towards the end of the film [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone Rex will end up regretting siding with humans]] [[DirtyCoward in exchange for his own safety]] and fight alongside the Apes during the climax of the film. He may even get a RedemptionEqualsDeath moment.moment.

[[WMG: Koba will return]]
[[https://youtu.be/UuuXIpYZ4jo?t=392 This B-Roll footage]] has Serkis (in character as Caesar) yelling what sounds like "KOBA!"

[[WMG: The Colonel's son died on the [[Film/RiseOfThePlanetOfTheApes Golden Gate Bridge]]]]
Giving him a personal hatred of Caesar and his apes.
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Towards the end of the film [[MyGodEhatHaveIDone Rex will end up regretting siding with humans]] [[DirtyCoward in exchange for his own safety]] and fight alongside the Apes during the climax of the film. He may even get a RedemptionEqualsDeath moment.

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Towards the end of the film [[MyGodEhatHaveIDone [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone Rex will end up regretting siding with humans]] [[DirtyCoward in exchange for his own safety]] and fight alongside the Apes during the climax of the film. He may even get a RedemptionEqualsDeath moment.
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[[WMG: Rex will undergo a HeelFaceTurn and rejoin Caesar's side]]
Towards the end of the film [[MyGodEhatHaveIDone Rex will end up regretting siding with humans]] [[DirtyCoward in exchange for his own safety]] and fight alongside the Apes during the climax of the film. He may even get a RedemptionEqualsDeath moment.

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