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* Shut up, and take my money!!!

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* Shut up, and take my money!!!money!!! - Agent_B

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[[WMG: If there's another game, it'll be called ''Uncharted V: Drake's [[LegacyCharacter Legacy]]'']]

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[[WMG: If there's another game, it'll be called ''Uncharted V: 5: Drake's [[LegacyCharacter Legacy]]'']]


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*Jossed. The fourth game revolves around Nate and the gang searching for the lost treasure of Captain Henry Avery, and eventually [[spoiler: Libertalia]]





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**Jossed




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*Confirmed, but it's spelled Avery

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* Jossed, unless the entirety of Uncharted 4 was a hallucination too, which seems unlikely.




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* Jossed, though according to developers, this was the original idea.




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* Jossed. Nate and Elena don't have a child until after the end of the adventure.




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* Jossed, the singeplayer DLC will instead revolve around Chloe and Nadine.




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* Confirmed in Chloe's case, as she will one of the protagonists of The Lost Legacy, the other being Nadine.



So, yes, the boat it was on sunk. Buuuuuuuuut, didn't Nate buy Jameson's Salvage company? Whose to say he didn't use the company to, well, salvage the treasure?

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So, yes, the boat it was on sunk. Buuuuuuuuut, didn't Nate buy Jameson's Salvage company? Whose to say he didn't use the company to, well, salvage the treasure?treasure?
* The cave did collapse in on itself, so it seems unlikely.
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*** "Other stuff happens" Other stuff like Drake following the archaeological work of [[LawrenceOfArabia T.E. Lawrence]]. (who may or may not be an Assassin/Templar) Finding Masyaf as it is being searched by the Templars, going through a Desmond-y hallucination sequence ultimately culminating in him pulling off an eagle drop only to be re-captured by Abstergo.

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*** "Other stuff happens" Other stuff like Drake following the archaeological work of [[LawrenceOfArabia [[Film/LawrenceOfArabia T.E. Lawrence]]. (who may or may not be an Assassin/Templar) Finding Masyaf as it is being searched by the Templars, going through a Desmond-y hallucination sequence ultimately culminating in him pulling off an eagle drop only to be re-captured by Abstergo.
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You really think Nate would say no if Sam and Sully (or maybe Chloe or Cutter) asked for a little help moving some crates around without any nosy customs agents noticing? Or move some "supplies" (mostly lead) for an off-the-books dig somewhere? Or a discrete getaway boat/car/plane? He's a guy who likes to do things for his friends.

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You really think Nate would say no if Sam and Sully (or maybe Chloe or Cutter) asked for a little help moving some crates around without any nosy customs agents noticing? Or move some "supplies" (mostly lead) for an off-the-books dig somewhere? Or a discrete getaway boat/car/plane? He's a guy who likes to do things for his friends.friends.

[[WMG: In the end, Nate did actually get Avery's treasure]]
So, yes, the boat it was on sunk. Buuuuuuuuut, didn't Nate buy Jameson's Salvage company? Whose to say he didn't use the company to, well, salvage the treasure?
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[[WMG: Victor Sullivan is both Tom from [[Film/FiveHundredDaysOfSummer 500 Days of Summer]] and Arthur from {{Inception}}]]

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[[WMG: Victor Sullivan is both Tom from [[Film/FiveHundredDaysOfSummer 500 Days of Summer]] and Arthur from {{Inception}}]]Film/{{Inception}}]]
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The Mighty Pirate actually was Guybrush Threepwood, who was the [[TokenGoodTeammate only Founder with the best of intentions]]. He was thus disturbed when he saw Libertalia going off the rails and ran (or, more darkly, he was the first on chopping block). The Voodoo Lady found out through/about him, and decided that if Avery wasn't going to take his own creed in honesty, [[KarmicDeath he would be judged by it]]-she cursed his loot so that anyone who sought it with greed in their hearts would die by the hands of their rivals or through the treasure itself. Anyone else, however, is guaranteed to survive, somehow.

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The Mighty Pirate actually was Guybrush Threepwood, who was the [[TokenGoodTeammate only Founder with the best of intentions]]. He was thus disturbed when he saw Libertalia going off the rails and ran (or, more darkly, he was the first on chopping block). The Voodoo Lady found out through/about him, and decided that if Avery wasn't going to take his own creed in honesty, [[KarmicDeath he would be judged by it]]-she cursed his loot so that anyone who sought it with greed in their hearts would die by the hands of their rivals or through the treasure itself. Anyone else, however, is guaranteed to survive, somehow.somehow.

[[WMG: In the ending, Fisher & Drake isn't ''quite'' as legit as Nate and Elena make it out to be.]]
You really think Nate would say no if Sam and Sully (or maybe Chloe or Cutter) asked for a little help moving some crates around without any nosy customs agents noticing? Or move some "supplies" (mostly lead) for an off-the-books dig somewhere? Or a discrete getaway boat/car/plane? He's a guy who likes to do things for his friends.
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* [[spoiler:How did Rafe get Sully's number? The only people who would probably have Sully's number is Nate and Sam (and probably Elena). San was working with Rafe even while he was working with Nathan, only to double cross Rafe at the end. So maybe Sam gave Rafe his phone so when Nathan called, Rafe automatically answered]].

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* [[spoiler:How did Rafe get Sully's number? The only people who would probably have Sully's number is Nate and Sam (and probably Elena). San Sam was working with Rafe even while he was working with Nathan, only to double cross Rafe at the end. So maybe Sam gave Rafe his phone so when Nathan called, Rafe automatically answered]].
** [[spoiler:It's not that hard to look up someone's cell number with a name, service provider and a whole lot of money, so here's a counter-theory: Notice how Sam has a smartphone while Nate is still running around with a flip-phone? Maybe Rafe had given Sam that phone after he got him out of prison. He probably had Sam's phone hacked already and used his resources to hack Sully's phone as well when they were sending each other pictures and texts.]]



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**Alternatively again, the game could feature Cassie as the main protagonist with Nate and Elena in a more supporting role. It is entirely possible that Cassie, after hearing about her parents adventures, coupled with the "I'm invincible" mentality many young adults have, will go out seeking her own adventure, driving a wedge between her and her parents. Sam could act as her Sully (kind of) and be the one to introduce her to the darker side of the treasure hunting biz in an attempt to relive some of the Glory Days, while Nate and Elena call on every underworld contact they have left (Chloe and Charlie anyone?) to try and bring their daughter home safe and sound. At the start of the game Cassie would be cocky and sarcastic to everyone, not unlike how her father was at the start of the first game (though probably with less interest in the treasure and more interest in the glory to be gained from finding it) but after either Nate or Sam is critically wounded she matures and realizes how childish she's been, reconciling with her parents, who then help her find the treasure to keep it out of the bad guy's hands (because it's dangerous and I want the return of the supernatural twist God Dammit!)
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** Alternatively, it could be a prequel about Drake's mother Cassandra and her adventures while working for/with Evelyn. Since Naughty Dog said this will be the last game in the series to star Nathan Drake himself, it seems unlikely we'll get another game with him. Besides, he deserves the happy ending he got at the end of ''IV''. Let him enjoy his peace.

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** Alternatively, it could be a prequel about Drake's mother Cassandra and her adventures while working for/with Evelyn. Since Naughty Dog said this will be the last game in the series to star Nathan Drake himself, it seems unlikely we'll get another game with him. Besides, he deserves the happy ending he got at the end of ''IV''. Let him enjoy his peace.peace.

[[WMG: Henry Avery's treasure is [[RealAfterAll genuinely cursed]]. ]]

The Mighty Pirate actually was Guybrush Threepwood, who was the [[TokenGoodTeammate only Founder with the best of intentions]]. He was thus disturbed when he saw Libertalia going off the rails and ran (or, more darkly, he was the first on chopping block). The Voodoo Lady found out through/about him, and decided that if Avery wasn't going to take his own creed in honesty, [[KarmicDeath he would be judged by it]]-she cursed his loot so that anyone who sought it with greed in their hearts would die by the hands of their rivals or through the treasure itself. Anyone else, however, is guaranteed to survive, somehow.
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* It'd probably be a game with the Drake-Fisher-Sullivan BadassFamily, focusing primarily on Nate and his daughter Cassie uncovering another lost city. Maybe Nate's roped into another adventure while on some kind of family outing with Cassie, unintentionally roping his daughter into the mess, and deal with him helping her develop into a badass like her parents, with Elana as an ActionMom helping out. Would be nice to see it as an excuse to work on the AI mechanics and figure some way to add to that, and continue the ''Last of Us'' style father/daughter action dynamic.

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* It'd probably be a game with the Drake-Fisher-Sullivan BadassFamily, focusing primarily on Nate and his daughter Cassie uncovering another lost city. Maybe Nate's roped into another adventure while on some kind of family outing with Cassie, unintentionally roping his daughter into the mess, and deal with him helping her develop into a badass like her parents, with Elana Elena as an ActionMom helping out. Would be nice to see it as an excuse to work on the AI mechanics and figure some way to add to that, and continue the ''Last of Us'' style father/daughter action dynamic.dynamic.
** Alternatively, it could be a prequel about Drake's mother Cassandra and her adventures while working for/with Evelyn. Since Naughty Dog said this will be the last game in the series to star Nathan Drake himself, it seems unlikely we'll get another game with him. Besides, he deserves the happy ending he got at the end of ''IV''. Let him enjoy his peace.
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* It just seems like a too obvious plot for the series's formula to skip. Naturally, a greedy British businessman will doublecross her around the second act to get their hands over Atlantean orichalcum, which will, in the series' tradition of Doing In The Wizard, turn out to be a mundane yet extremely valuable material (such as a room-temperature superconductor, a power source, or simply an extremely hard yet extremely light "super titanium"). After descending into the depths of Atlantis in a mini submarine and a fight involving explosives, the undersea cave in which it is located will inevitably collapse, burying the orichalcum forever.

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* It just seems like a too obvious plot for the series's formula to skip. Naturally, a greedy British businessman will doublecross her around the second act to get their hands over Atlantean orichalcum, which will, in the series' tradition of Doing In The Wizard, turn out to be a mundane yet extremely valuable material (such as a room-temperature superconductor, a power source, or simply an extremely hard yet extremely light "super titanium"). After descending into the depths of Atlantis in a mini submarine and a fight involving explosives, the undersea cave in which it is located will inevitably collapse, burying the orichalcum forever.forever.

[[WMG: If there's another game, it'll be called ''Uncharted V: Drake's [[LegacyCharacter Legacy]]'']]
* It'd probably be a game with the Drake-Fisher-Sullivan BadassFamily, focusing primarily on Nate and his daughter Cassie uncovering another lost city. Maybe Nate's roped into another adventure while on some kind of family outing with Cassie, unintentionally roping his daughter into the mess, and deal with him helping her develop into a badass like her parents, with Elana as an ActionMom helping out. Would be nice to see it as an excuse to work on the AI mechanics and figure some way to add to that, and continue the ''Last of Us'' style father/daughter action dynamic.
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[[WMG: Drakes story may be over with 4 but Cutter Chloe and Sam can take the protagonist helm in potential future Games.]]

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[[WMG: Drakes story may be over with 4 but Cutter Chloe and Sam can take the protagonist helm in potential future Games.]]]]

[[WMG: On a future adventure, a Drake, possibly Nathan's daughter, will find Atlantis]]
* It just seems like a too obvious plot for the series's formula to skip. Naturally, a greedy British businessman will doublecross her around the second act to get their hands over Atlantean orichalcum, which will, in the series' tradition of Doing In The Wizard, turn out to be a mundane yet extremely valuable material (such as a room-temperature superconductor, a power source, or simply an extremely hard yet extremely light "super titanium"). After descending into the depths of Atlantis in a mini submarine and a fight involving explosives, the undersea cave in which it is located will inevitably collapse, burying the orichalcum forever.
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{{WMG: Drakes story may be over with 4 but Cutter Chloe and Sam can take the protagonist helm in potential future Games}}

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{{WMG: [[WMG: Drakes story may be over with 4 but Cutter Chloe and Sam can take the protagonist helm in potential future Games}}Games.]]
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* [[spoiler: Cassie will be after some treasure, and she'll run into the rebuilt Shoreline, and their leader will be ''quite'' happy to hand another Drake their ass. Cassie will make a bunch of 'grandma' jokes. Bonus points if she kicks Cassie out a window.]]

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* [[spoiler: Cassie will be after some treasure, and she'll run into the rebuilt Shoreline, and their leader will be ''quite'' happy to hand another Drake their ass. Cassie will make a bunch of 'grandma' jokes. Bonus points if she kicks Cassie out a window.]]]]

{{WMG: Drakes story may be over with 4 but Cutter Chloe and Sam can take the protagonist helm in potential future Games}}
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* [[spoiler:How did Rafe get Sully's number? The only people who would probably have Sully's number is Nate and Sam (and probably Elena). San was working with Rafe even while he was working with Nathan, only to double cross Rafe at the end. So maybe Sam gave Rafe his phone so when Nathan called, Rafe automatically answered]].

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* [[spoiler:How did Rafe get Sully's number? The only people who would probably have Sully's number is Nate and Sam (and probably Elena). San was working with Rafe even while he was working with Nathan, only to double cross Rafe at the end. So maybe Sam gave Rafe his phone so when Nathan called, Rafe automatically answered]].answered]].

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Cassie will have a run-in with Nadine later in her life.]] ]]
* [[spoiler: Cassie will be after some treasure, and she'll run into the rebuilt Shoreline, and their leader will be ''quite'' happy to hand another Drake their ass. Cassie will make a bunch of 'grandma' jokes. Bonus points if she kicks Cassie out a window.]]
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** [[spoiler:In Uncharted 4, you meet her former boss, Evelyn, who says Cassandra had an illness. Maybe her illness was a mental one, like depression or bipolar disorder, which lead to her suicide?]]
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* Why would [[spoiler:Cassandra Morgan, a wildly successful AdventurerArchaeologist in her own right, with two children suddenly commit suicide? There's no explanation in either ''Drake's Deception'' or ''A Thief's End'' for it, but we ''do'' know that Cassandra got up to some pretty dangerous adventures in her glory days. ''Drake's Deception'' also introduces a powerful secret society interested in historical artifacts that had T.E. Lawrence assassinated and covered it up to look like an accident. All of this suggests Cassandra could have easily have been snuffed out by them and it was made to look like a suicide]].

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* Why would [[spoiler:Cassandra Morgan, a wildly successful AdventurerArchaeologist in her own right, with two children suddenly commit suicide? There's no explanation in either ''Drake's Deception'' or ''A Thief's End'' for it, but we ''do'' know that Cassandra got up to some pretty dangerous adventures in her glory days. ''Drake's Deception'' also introduces a powerful secret society interested in historical artifacts that had T.E. Lawrence assassinated and covered it up to look like an accident. All of this suggests Cassandra could have easily have been snuffed out by them and it was made to look like a suicide]].suicide]].

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Sam's a double agent]].]]
* [[spoiler:How did Rafe get Sully's number? The only people who would probably have Sully's number is Nate and Sam (and probably Elena). San was working with Rafe even while he was working with Nathan, only to double cross Rafe at the end. So maybe Sam gave Rafe his phone so when Nathan called, Rafe automatically answered]].
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[[WMG: In the upcoming singleplayer DLC for ''Uncharted 4'', we will play as [[spoiler:Elena, filling in the gaps of how she arrived at Libertalia, and how she eventually found and rescued Drake]].]]

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[[WMG: In the upcoming singleplayer DLC for ''Uncharted 4'', we will play as [[spoiler:Elena, [[spoiler: Elena, filling in the gaps of how she arrived at Libertalia, and how she eventually found and rescued Drake]].]]



[[WMG: [[spoiler:Nate's mom didn't commit suicide]].]]

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[[WMG: [[spoiler:Nate's [[spoiler: Nate's mom didn't commit suicide]].]]
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[[WMG: In the upcoming singleplayer DLC for ''Uncharted 4'', we will play as [[spoiler:Elena, filling in the gaps of how she arrived at Libertalia, and how she eventually found and rescued Drake]]]].
* This is probably one of the biggest missing parts of ''A Thief's End''. Just how did [[spoiler:Elena and Sully get to Libertalia? And then how did Elena get all the way across the island to rescue Nate]]? This would be a great adventure to explore in a two hour-or-so DLC.

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[[WMG: In the upcoming singleplayer DLC for ''Uncharted 4'', we will play as [[spoiler:Elena, filling in the gaps of how she arrived at Libertalia, and how she eventually found and rescued Drake]]]].
Drake]].]]
* This is probably one of the biggest missing parts of ''A Thief's End''. Just how did [[spoiler:Elena and Sully get to Libertalia? And then how did Elena get all the way across the island to rescue Nate]]? This would be a great adventure to explore in a two hour-or-so DLC.DLC.

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Nate's mom didn't commit suicide]].]]
* Why would [[spoiler:Cassandra Morgan, a wildly successful AdventurerArchaeologist in her own right, with two children suddenly commit suicide? There's no explanation in either ''Drake's Deception'' or ''A Thief's End'' for it, but we ''do'' know that Cassandra got up to some pretty dangerous adventures in her glory days. ''Drake's Deception'' also introduces a powerful secret society interested in historical artifacts that had T.E. Lawrence assassinated and covered it up to look like an accident. All of this suggests Cassandra could have easily have been snuffed out by them and it was made to look like a suicide]].

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** Confirmed: Those closest thing to any sort of supernatural element would be the exploding mummy bombs, but those are just booby trapped and not supernatural.



** Confirmed: Sam slips some gold coins onto Elena's jacket, which allows the couple to buy a marine salvage business.




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** Jossed: Sully doesn't even come close to dying.
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** Confirmed somewhat, as A Thief's End has flashback segments focusing on younger Drake.
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[[WMG: In the upcoming singleplayer DLC for ''Uncharted 4'', we will play as [[spoiler:Elena, filling in the gaps of how she arrived at Libertalia, and how she eventually found and rescued Drake]].

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[[WMG: In the upcoming singleplayer DLC for ''Uncharted 4'', we will play as [[spoiler:Elena, filling in the gaps of how she arrived at Libertalia, and how she eventually found and rescued Drake]].Drake]]]].
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[[WMG: In the upcoming singleplayer DLC for ''Uncharted 4'', we will play as [[spoiler:Elena, filling in the gaps of how she arrived at Libertalia, and how she eventually found and rescued Drake]].
* This is probably one of the biggest missing parts of ''A Thief's End''. Just how did [[spoiler:Elena and Sully get to Libertalia? And then how did Elena get all the way across the island to rescue Nate]]? This would be a great adventure to explore in a two hour-or-so DLC.
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[[WMG: As an extra bit of irony [[spoiler: Nate will turn out to really be related to Sir Francis Drake.]]

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[[WMG: As an extra bit of irony [[spoiler: Nate will turn out to really be related to Sir Francis Drake.]]]]]]
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[[WMG: As an extra bit of irony [[spoiler: Nate will turn out to really be related to Sir Francis Drake.]]
* Turns out that history was wrong there. It also would account for him being AmbiguouslyBrown, since [[spoiler: Francis had a fling with either one of Central America's natives or a Spanish Lady]] and the effects from that are still in Drake's blood.
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** Maybe in between those, he was also Tom Sheldon from ''JustCause'', using an assumed name because of the undercover nature of his workings with the CIA.

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** Maybe in between those, he was also Tom Sheldon from ''JustCause'', ''VideoGame/JustCause'', using an assumed name because of the undercover nature of his workings with the CIA.
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[[WMG: ''A Thief's End'' will subvert some of the series' recurring elements.]]
* There will be no supernatural element. (Since the treasure of the week is just pirate treasure)
* Drake will actually come away from the game with something worth a lot of money.
* To balance out this victory, [[PyrrhicVictory Sully will actually die this time.]]
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* In the behind-closed-doors demo of Uncharted 4, after an action scene, Nate, Sam, and Sully are discussing their treasure hunting plans at a hotel. Nate is [[http://goo.gl/yY6l1R surprised]] to find Elena at the hotel, [[http://goo.gl/YL2W4W looking angry]] and [[AngerBornOfWorry worried]]. Elena could be extra worried that Nate is risking his life again, because she wants him back home...because she is expecting.

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* In the behind-closed-doors demo of Uncharted 4, after an action scene, Nate, Sam, and Sully are discussing their treasure hunting plans at a hotel. Nate is [[http://goo.gl/yY6l1R surprised]] to find Elena at the hotel, [[http://goo.gl/YL2W4W looking angry]] and [[AngerBornOfWorry worried]]. Elena could be extra worried that Nate is risking his life again, because she wants him back home...again...because she is expecting.

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