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** He's joining it in the fifth film.
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* [[spoiler: Tessa gets a few action moments, but her father Cade is the most {{Badass}} of the humans.]]

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* [[spoiler: Tessa gets a few action moments, but her father Cade is the most {{Badass}} badass of the humans.]]
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Consider Alice from ROTF, also known as the Pretender. According to the tie-in comic, that form was scanned from an animatronic [[AliceInWonder Alice]] from a new (fictional) Disneyland attraction. So there is a precedent that Movieverse Transformers can take on Altmodes that at least LOOK Organic. Remember that Steven Speilberg is involved in this movie.

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Consider Alice from ROTF, also known as the Pretender. According to the tie-in comic, that form was scanned from an animatronic [[AliceInWonder [[AliceInWonderland Alice]] from a new (fictional) Disneyland attraction. So there is a precedent that Movieverse Transformers can take on Altmodes that at least LOOK Organic. Remember that Steven Speilberg is involved in this movie.



She was planted in the British embassy to learn political secrets, but when she happened to meet Sam at the White House the plan changed and she was ordered to get close to him. To do this, she [[spoiler: was got a job from Dylan, the human ally of the Decepticons]]. At some point, she either fell InLoveWithTheMark (or [[CargoShip Bumblebee]]) or is just really determined to keep her cover [[spoiler: after being kidnapped]]. She was never in any real danger until she ended up surrounded by a bunch of human mercenaries. That's also why [[spoiler: Megatron didn't kill her when she called him Sentinel's [[ThisIsForEmphasisBitch bitch]] - she was on his side!]]

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She was planted in the British embassy to learn political secrets, but when she happened to meet Sam at the White House the plan changed and she was ordered to get close to him. To do this, she [[spoiler: was got a job from Dylan, the human ally of the Decepticons]]. At some point, she either fell InLoveWithTheMark (or [[CargoShip Bumblebee]]) or is just really determined she didn't trust her supposed [[TheQuisling human allies]] enough to keep drop her cover [[spoiler: after being kidnapped]]. She was never in any real danger until she ended up surrounded by a bunch of human mercenaries. That's also why [[spoiler: Megatron didn't kill her when she called him Sentinel's [[ThisIsForEmphasisBitch bitch]] - she was on his side!]]




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* If Carly is a Pretender, especially if she's ''the'' Pretender from ROTF then that does put her technically replacing Mikaela in a much more [[EvilIsPetty petty perspective]], considering who ran ''that'' Pretender over with a car.
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Consider Alice from ROTF, also known as the Deceptislut. According to the tie-in comic, that form was scanned from an animatronic [[AliceInWonder Alice]] from a new (fictional) Disneyland attraction. So there is a precedent that Movieverse Transformers can take on Altmodes that at least LOOK Organic. Remember that Steven Speilberg is involved in this movie.

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Consider Alice from ROTF, also known as the Deceptislut.Pretender. According to the tie-in comic, that form was scanned from an animatronic [[AliceInWonder Alice]] from a new (fictional) Disneyland attraction. So there is a precedent that Movieverse Transformers can take on Altmodes that at least LOOK Organic. Remember that Steven Speilberg is involved in this movie.



* This will most likely be revealed in the fourth film, causing the huge plot-canyon that is Alice in ROFT to finally close up (it's a major detail never brought up again). The fourth film will be a much more grounded take on Transformers, with more humans being badass and killing Decepticons in hiding, while the Autobots-team has been disavowed by Decepticons who have gone undercover in major political roles (perhaps even President) over the whole world.

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* This will most likely be revealed in the fourth a later film, causing the huge plot-canyon that is Alice in ROFT to finally close up (it's a major detail never brought up again). The fourth again, unless you count the IDW comics which are known to bend canon). This later film will be a much more grounded take on Transformers, with more humans being badass and killing Decepticons in hiding, while the Autobots-team has been disavowed by Decepticons who have gone undercover in major political roles (perhaps even President) over the whole world.
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The Shattered Glass is the typical 'morality flip' universe done for Transformers: the Autobots are evil, the Decepticons are good, etc. This [[http://www.scribd.com/doc/210677266/I-actually-kind-of-appreciate-the-Transformers-movies very lengthy analysis]] of the first three films demonstrates that there seems to be a LOT of stuff going beneath the surface that suggests, as the Weird Al song goes, everything you know is wrong, and that the true villains all along were the Autobots and Prime. Age of Extinction raises some extra questions, but does not do anything to overtly DISPROVE the theory presented in the link. Though considering how overtly flipped everything is in the original Shattered Glass universe, this may be a more subtle version of it.

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* The Shattered Glass is the typical 'morality flip' universe done for Transformers: the Autobots are evil, the Decepticons are good, etc. This [[http://www.scribd.com/doc/210677266/I-actually-kind-of-appreciate-the-Transformers-movies very lengthy analysis]] of the first three films demonstrates that there seems to be a LOT of stuff going beneath the surface that suggests, as the Weird Al song goes, everything you know is wrong, and that the true villains all along were the Autobots and Prime. Age of Extinction raises some extra questions, but does not do anything to overtly DISPROVE the theory presented in the link. Though considering how overtly flipped everything is in the original Shattered Glass universe, this may be a more subtle version of it.
** Considering the direction that the fourth film took, and the promotional material revealed for the fifth film, it may be that this is slowly ''becoming'' a Shattered Glass universe, and once that happens, the new writers room will create an expanded universe by crossing the SG universe with the non-SG universe. This will also allow them to incorporate GI Joe (an alternate to NEST?) and other Hasbro franchises, ''which they've wanted to do all along''.
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See WMG/TransformersAgeOfExtinction for the specific movie.

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See WMG/TransformersAgeOfExtinction and WMG/TransformersTheLastKnight for the those specific movie.
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[[folder:Transformers The Last Knight.]]

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[[folder:Transformers [[folder:Transformers: The Last Knight.]]Knight (2017)]]



The picture of Megatron seems to show beastal features, so I think Megatron will be the Beast Wars Megatron, and Decetpacon Megatron will still be Gavaltron.

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The picture of Megatron seems to show beastal features, so I think Megatron will be the Beast Wars Megatron, and Decetpacon Decepticon Megatron will still be Gavaltron.Galvatron.

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[[WMG: The Megatron in the film will be Beast Wars Megatron.]]
The picture of Megatron seems to show beastal features, so I think Megatron will be the Beast Wars Megatron, and Decetpacon Megatron will still be Gavaltron.
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Somebody will point out early on how offensive they are, & it'll become a running gag that everytime we see them they're trying out new voices, with different riddiculous accents. Good way to throw in {{Shout Out}}s to all the other silly accents that have been used over the years ([[TransformersCybertron Mudflap]], [[TransformersAnimated Blitzwing]], etc.), complete with the original voice actors in cameo roles.

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Somebody will point out early on how offensive they are, & it'll become a running gag that everytime we see them they're trying out new voices, with different riddiculous accents. Good way to throw in {{Shout Out}}s to all the other silly accents that have been used over the years ([[TransformersCybertron ([[Anime/TransformersCybertron Mudflap]], [[TransformersAnimated Blitzwing]], etc.), complete with the original voice actors in cameo roles.
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[[WMG: Some of the characters that have been killed off will be revived in the sequels made without Bay's involvement.]]
Okay, so I'm kind of bitter about Michael Bay killing off Arcee for no reason other than despising her, but Optimus Prime hasn't been the only Transformer to be BackFromTheDead in the various incarnations of the franchise, so there's no reason Optimus Prime should be the only character in the franchise to be able to come back to life after being killed.

And with the news that Transformers 5 will be the ''last'' film made with Bay's involvement for real, whoever calls the shots from now on might have free reign to bring back at least some of the characters that were unceremoniously killed off.
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* She's really meant to be [[spoiler: a ShoutOut to {{Terminator}}, in response to ''Salvation'' having Transformer-like robots (the motorcycles, giant robots).]]

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* She's really meant to be [[spoiler: a ShoutOut to {{Terminator}}, ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'', in response to ''Salvation'' ''[[Film/TerminatorSalvation Salvation]]'' having Transformer-like robots (the motorcycles, giant robots).]]
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[[ShadowOfTheColossus By climbing up a giant Decepticon and stabbing it in multiple weakspots with a spike until it dies]]

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[[ShadowOfTheColossus [[VideoGame/ShadowOfTheColossus By climbing up a giant Decepticon and stabbing it in multiple weakspots with a spike until it dies]]
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[[WMG: the BigBad of the new trilogy will be Unicron]]
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[[WMG: The Transformers film trilogy/series actually takes place in the [[TransformersShatteredGlass Shattered Glass universe]].]]

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[[WMG: The Transformers film trilogy/series actually takes place in the [[TransformersShatteredGlass [[ComicBook/TransformersShatteredGlass Shattered Glass universe]].]]
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[[WMG: The Seeds and the Allspark are different stages in the evolution of the "Creators'" technology]]
The Seeds can create "transformium" from ''any'' available matter, but that's it. The Allspark, on the other hand, can imbue electronic/mechanical devices with Sparks, which then transmute the devices into transformium, but cannot affect complex organic matter the way the Seeds can. The Allspark most likely started off as a way to refine the functionality of transformium-made devices but was developed (or developed on its own) into creating greater products than was originally expected.

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* [[spoiler: Alternately, the Decepticons always intended to exterminate humanity, but only claimed they wanted us as slaves to keep their human collaborators obedient and to discourage the rest of humanity from getting ''so'' desperate that we'd nuke Chicago outright, rather than lose the whole planet.]]
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\"So, how well did it work?\" This is the answer.


** [[spoiler: Galvatron was built by KSI as a consumer version of Optimus Prime, but they [[TooDumbToLive decided]] to get the codes to program him from [[SealedEvilInACan Megatron's severed head]]. This worked [[BrainUploading about as well as expected]].]]

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** [[spoiler: Galvatron was built by KSI as a consumer version of Optimus Prime, but they [[TooDumbToLive decided]] to get the codes to program him from [[SealedEvilInACan Megatron's severed head]]. This worked [[BrainUploading This]] worked [[GoneHorriblyWrong about as well as expected]].]]
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* Jossed. None of the human characters is related to Sam Witwicky.
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[[WMG: Seymour Simmons went into hiding.]]
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The Shattered Glass is the typical 'morality flip' universe done for Transformers: the Autobots are evil, the Decepticons are good, etc. This [[http://www.scribd.com/doc/210677266/I-actually-kind-of-appreciate-the-Transformers-movies very lengthy analysis]] of the first three films demonstrates that there seems to be a LOT of stuff going beneath the surface that suggests, as the Weird Al song goes, everything you know is wrong, and that the true villains all along were the Autobots and Prime. Age of Extinction raises some extra questions, but does not do anything to overtly DISPROVE the theory presented in the link.

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The Shattered Glass is the typical 'morality flip' universe done for Transformers: the Autobots are evil, the Decepticons are good, etc. This [[http://www.scribd.com/doc/210677266/I-actually-kind-of-appreciate-the-Transformers-movies very lengthy analysis]] of the first three films demonstrates that there seems to be a LOT of stuff going beneath the surface that suggests, as the Weird Al song goes, everything you know is wrong, and that the true villains all along were the Autobots and Prime. Age of Extinction raises some extra questions, but does not do anything to overtly DISPROVE the theory presented in the link.
link. Though considering how overtly flipped everything is in the original Shattered Glass universe, this may be a more subtle version of it.
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[[WMG: The Transformers film trilogy/series actually takes place in the [[TransformersShatteredGlass Shattered Glass universe]].]]
The Shattered Glass is the typical 'morality flip' universe done for Transformers: the Autobots are evil, the Decepticons are good, etc. This [[http://www.scribd.com/doc/210677266/I-actually-kind-of-appreciate-the-Transformers-movies very lengthy analysis]] of the first three films demonstrates that there seems to be a LOT of stuff going beneath the surface that suggests, as the Weird Al song goes, everything you know is wrong, and that the true villains all along were the Autobots and Prime. Age of Extinction raises some extra questions, but does not do anything to overtly DISPROVE the theory presented in the link.
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[[WMG: The sequels will mostly take place in outer space.]]

[[WMG: Hot Rod will join the main cast.]]
* He's sent by Optimus Prime himself while he's still searching for the Creators.

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* Wait: how is this wild? Or a guess? Of course Sam's car is really Bumblebee; that's kinda the point.
* No way. What next, that sweet truck with the flames painted on the side is actually Optimus Prime?
* This makes perfect sense. They are called Transformers. Maybe they can change shape to disguise themselves. And they are called Autobots, so maybe they specialize in becoming motor vehicles.
** Maybe they can turn into things besides cars. [[GunsAreUseless Guns seem to be completely useless]] in this movie, maybe Megatron is secretly turning into everybody's handguns every time they try to fire them and sabotaging their attempts to defeat the Decepticons?

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* Wait: how is this wild? Or a guess? Of course Sam's car is really Bumblebee; that's kinda the point.
* No way. What next, that sweet truck with the flames painted on the side is actually Optimus Prime?
* This makes perfect sense. They are called Transformers. Maybe they can change shape to disguise themselves. And they are called Autobots, so maybe they specialize in becoming motor vehicles.
** Maybe they can turn into things besides cars. [[GunsAreUseless Guns seem to be completely useless]] in this movie, maybe Megatron is secretly turning into everybody's handguns every time they try to fire them and sabotaging their attempts to defeat the Decepticons?
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* Age of Extinction also gives us the zinger "I will kill you!"
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It's a heartwarming reunion, and Sam is glad to know Optimus is still alive.

[[WMG: The U.S. government shut down Cemetery Wind.]]

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It's a heartwarming reunion, and Sam is glad to know Optimus is still alive.

alive. And they have a son named Daniel.

[[WMG: The U.S. government shut shuts down Cemetery Wind.]]

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[[WMG: Age of Extinction will finally have the theme song play]]

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[[WMG: Age ''Age of Extinction Extinction'' will finally have the theme song play]]



Whether it follows the plot of the '85 movie to any degree remains to be seen, but Shia LaBoeuf has expressed no interest in returning to the series- a timeskip is the perfect way to recast him, and the fact that he just hooked up with Carly is the perfect segue into introducing a new teen progagonist in the form of Daniel.

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Whether it follows the plot of the '85 movie to any degree remains to be seen, but Shia LaBoeuf [=LaBoeuf=] has expressed no interest in returning to the series- a timeskip is the perfect way to recast him, and the fact that he just hooked up with Carly is the perfect segue into introducing a new teen progagonist in the form of Daniel.



* Thunderwing: One of the decepticons who took control of one decepticon factions that formed following the deaths of Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave and Shockwave at the battle of Chicago, may secertely be a descendant of one of the original 13 primes
* Darkmount/Straxus: Another decepticon warlord who is trying his bid for control of the decepticons
* Bludgeon: A potential candaitate for the leader of the decepticons following Megatron's death and could be the big bad for the movie.
* Ratbat: One of the decepticons who took control of the Decepticons in the Marvel Transformers comics.

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* Thunderwing: One of the decepticons Decepticons who took control of one decepticon Decepticon factions that formed following the deaths of Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave and Shockwave at the battle of Chicago, may secertely be a descendant of one of the original 13 primes
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* Darkmount/Straxus: Another decepticon Decepticon warlord who is trying his bid for control of the decepticons
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* Bludgeon: A potential candaitate candidate for the leader of the decepticons Decepticons following Megatron's death and could be the big bad for the movie.
* Ratbat: One of the decepticons Decepticons who took control of the Decepticons in the Marvel Transformers comics.



[[WMG: There will be a GI Joe Transformer crossover.]]

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[[WMG: There will be a GI G.I. Joe / Transformer crossover.]]



[[WMG:Cade's wife [[spoiler: Died in Chicago]] ]]

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[[WMG:Cade's wife [[spoiler: Died died in Chicago]] ]]


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[[WMG: Bumblebee meet up with Sam and Carly after ''AOE''.]]
It's a heartwarming reunion, and Sam is glad to know Optimus is still alive.

[[WMG: The U.S. government shut down Cemetery Wind.]]
But some members went underground and will continue to be enemies. They will reform into a terrorist organization similar to [[WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime MECH]].

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* The Dinobots never speak in the film proper, but in the Video Game, Grimlock has his normal speech and voice actor.

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* The Dinobots never speak in the film proper, but in the Video Game, video game, Grimlock has his normal speech and voice actor.



[[WMG:The reason Harold Attinger hates Transformers is because his wife was killed in Chicago during the events of Dark of the Moon.]]

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[[WMG:The reason Harold Attinger hates Transformers is because his wife was killed in Chicago during the events of Dark ''Dark of the Moon.Moon''.]]


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[[WMG: The Creators are ''not'' the Quintessons.]]
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[[WMG:Sam Lennox Epps and the other old human allies were killed.]]
We see the government officials beating up Cade's daugther and pulling out guns at the drop of a hat. Since the world has turns on the bots and it's not likely Sam and friends would just let the Autobots run off, and the humans hunting them would probably figure they'd have info on them...well it probably wouldn't end well for them. Sam especially since Bee seems to have defintely been caught at some point. And its confirmed none of the older human characters will show up in any capacity.

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[[WMG:Sam Lennox Epps [[WMG:Sam, Lennox, Epps. and the other old human allies were killed.]]
We see the government officials beating up Cade's daugther daughter and pulling out guns at the drop of a hat. Since the world has turns turned on the bots and it's not likely Sam and friends would just let the Autobots run off, and the humans hunting them would probably figure they'd have info on them...well it probably wouldn't end well for them. Sam especially since Bee seems to have defintely definitely been caught at some point. And its confirmed none of the older human characters will show up in any capacity.




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* Possibly supported by Bee's all black paint job at the start of the movie since that's the closest he could get to mourning clothes.
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[[WMG:Drift was hiding in Japan before the Autobots were called back together.]]
He has a helicopter form, so it stands to reason he could cross the ocean with ease. And there's a throw-away line in the beginning of the movie about a few other countries getting a hold of Cybertronian technology, one of them being Japan. It's possile Drift decided to hang out there, maybe made a friend or two, and developed a very strong fondness of the culture while he was there.
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* Jossed. They just look weird. Optimus calls them "Legendary Warriors" and upon seeing Grimlock in Lockdown's ship he says "The Legends are true!". Which obviously means the Dinobots are very, very old. Possibly as old as [[spoiler: when the Quintessons were doing something to Earth, 65 million years ago]].

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* Jossed. They just look weird. Optimus calls them "Legendary Warriors" and upon seeing Grimlock in Lockdown's ship he says "The Legends are true!". Which obviously means the Dinobots are very, very old. Possibly as old as [[spoiler: when the Quintessons Transformers creators were doing something to mucking around with Earth, 65 million years ago]].

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