History WMG / ToddInTheShadowsOtherTopTens

* "Call Me" by Music/{{Blondie}} (1980): Although 1980 is one of Todd's least favorite years for music, this song has very much stood the test of time as a pop anthem. Similar to Ariana Grande in 2018, it's likely Todd would feel Blondie were one of the only pop acts that truly mattered in 1980.

* Music/{{Creed}}: Todd initially [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/501701251298754560 stated]] on Twitter that Creed was a better band than Nickelback on the virtue of being more ridiculous and over the top with how bad they were. However, Todd has since [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/962795062416560131 revised]] his claim after listening to their breakout album, "Human Clay", later stating that ''Nickelback'' was the better band on the virtue of having more variety in their music.

* Music/{{Creed}} firing Scott Stapp and recruiting Myles Kennedy to form Music/AlterBridge.

* "One Last Breath" by Music/{{Creed}}: Hinted [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1502701735814459392 here]]. In the "Sweetest Pie" review, he called it an "all-time stinker", said it was ridiculous even by Creed's standards, and mocked a case of SpecialEffectFailure.

* 2000: [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1223299764571320320?s=20 Todd tweeted that this was a terrible year for pop music, in contrast to 1999 being so good]]. In the Music/SClub7 OHW, he had hinted that the period was plagued by an overabundance of easy listening ballads, but 2000 was also a negative turning point for PostGrunge, which saw Music/{{Creed}}'s "Higher" and "With Arms Wide Open" become two of the biggest songs of the year. [[https://twitter.com/ShadowTodd/status/1223300831199535104?s=20 He also considers most of 2000's huge smashes overrated]].

* White Guy With Acoustic Guitar and White Chick With Piano: It's not so much with the literal setup of either, although Todd does call it the bare minimum effort. It's the insincerity behind most WGWAG songs and the dreary melodrama of many WCWP songs as well as the lack of talent and pretentionous for most examples of both that is likely to end up high on the list, possibly at #1.

* Songs that sound like they were explicity written to be a commercial jingle

* Bad {{breakup song}}s: Primarily those that come off as overly immature and catty, such as Music/CherLloyd's "Want U Back" or Gayle's "abcdefu", or are overall poorly written, such as Christina Perri's "Jar of Hearts".

* {{Crunk}}: Todd gives Music/LilJon a pass as the TropeCodifier; it's the imitators that Todd dislikes.

* Meme/viral songs: Todd tends to dislike tracks whose initial chart success was due to a social media trend. He may give a pass to older songs that were actual hits when they were originally released but later resurface as a meme, such as Music/{{Rick Astley}}'s "[[JustForFun/{{Rickroll}} Never Gonna Give You Up]]".

* Ringtone rap: Popular in the mid-2000s, these songs typcially had a [[BrokenRecord repeated catchy hook]], and most artists who emphasized making these kind of singles and were not already established tend to be one hit wonders who faded into obscurity almost as quickly as they had risen to fame.

* White Guy With Acoustic Guitar and White Chick With Piano: It's not so much with the literal setup of either, although Todd does call it the bare minimum effort. It's the insincerity behind most WGWAG songs and the dreary melodrama of many WCWP songs as well as the lack of talent for most examples that is likely to end up high on the list, possibly at #1.

* {{Yarling}}: Often employed by rock artists since the 1990s, Todd compares this style of "singing" to "singing directly out of [one's] colon" when citing why Music/{{Nickelback}} frontman Chad Kroeger sucks.

* "Flatline" by Music/{{BOB}}: A UsefulNotes/NeilDeGrasseTyson diss track that promotes conspiracy theories and antisemitism. A strong candidate for #1.

* Chvrches

* Music/JuiceWRLD: Todd thought this sounded like the name of a mall kiosk [[SignsOfDisrepair after a sign burned out]]. However, Todd might exclude him due to his [[NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead sudden death in late 2019]].

* [[Music/SeanCombs Puff Daddy]]: Also known as P. Diddy, Diddy, or Puffy.

* "I Write Sins Not Tragedies" by Music/PanicAtTheDisco: The radio edit turns the "goddamn" in the chorus into [[{{Bleepdammit}} "[mute]damn"]].

* Music/The1975: More specifically, frontman Matty Healy.

* "Bitter Sweet Symphony" by The Verve sampling "The Last Time" by The Rolling Stones: This song counts a bad use of sampling because The Verve halost all profit on their only major hit after Allen Klein, who held the rights to the Stones' pre-1970 discography, sued (and won) for songwriting credits and royalties. However, in 2019, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards amicably returned credit for "Bitter Sweet Symphony" to The Verve frontman Richard Ashcroft.

* "Music/PuffTheMagicDragon" by Music/PeterPaulAndMary: While tame by modern standards, it caused an uproar at the time of its released due to people thinking the song's lyrics alluded to marijuana usage.

* "Music/PuffTheMagicDragon" by Music/PeterPaulAndMary: Despite the popular myth that the song was about getting high on marijuana, the song is about the loss of childhood innocence.

* Music/{{NSYNC}}: Todd even states that he prefers their contemporaries, the Backstreet Boys. However, Todd does have mixed feelings about Justin Timberlake's solo career.

* "Bitter Sweet Symphony" by The Verve sampling "The Last Time" by The Rolling Stones: This song counts a bad use of sampling because The Verve lost all profit on their only major hit after the Stones' manager sued (and won) for songwriting credits and royalties.

* "All the Things She Said" by [[Music/{{Tatu}} t.A.T.u.]]: At the time of the song's release in 2002, the song's video drew controversy for its lesbian undertones. Also, the duo hails from UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}, which has a strong anti-LGBT stance.

* Bad/Lazy {{Sampling}}: Todd tends to dislike songs which fail to add anything to the sample, use the sample for nostalgia's sake, or use the sample in the wrong context.
* Bad {{breakup song}}s: Primarily those that come off as immature and catty, such as Music/CherLloyd's "Want U Back" or Gayle's "abcdefu", or are overall poorly written, such as Christina Perri's "Jar of Hearts".

* Meme/Viral songs: Todd tends to dislike tracks whose initial chart success was due to a social media trend. He may give a pass to older songs that were actual hits when they were originally released but later resurface as a meme, such as Music/{{Rick Astley}}'s "[[JustForFun/{{Rickroll}} Never Gonna Give You Up]]".

* White Guy With Acoustic Guitar / White Chick With Piano: It's not so much with the literal setup of either, although Todd does call it the bare minimum effort. It's the ''insincerity'' of most WGWAG songs and the dreary melodrama of many WCWP songs that is likely to end up high on the list, possibly at #1.

* "I'm Ready" by AJR sampling ''[[WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants SpongeBob SquarePants]]''

* "Purple Hills" by [=D12=]: Someone took an Eminem song about drugs and tried to make it radio-friendly, to mind-numbingly stupid results:

** "Stand by You": "Fight Song"'s follow-up only scraped the bottom of the Top 40.

** "Stand by You": While "Fight Song"'s follow-up only scraped the bottom of the Top 40, Todd would find it just as bad, if not worse.

* Bad/Lazy {{Sampling}}: Todd tends to dislike songs which fail to add anything to the sample or use the sample in the wrong context.

* BreakUpSong: Primarily those that come off as immature and catty, such as Music/CherLloyd's "Want U Back" or Gayle's "abcdefu".

* The Millennial Whoop: Todd calls out songwriters that use the technique to make "boring and thin-sounding" songs seem bigger than they actually are, citing Alessia Cara's "Scars to Your Beautiful" as an example of misuse.

* {{Nepotism}}: Todd tends to dislike artists whose prominence is due to familial/inside connections rather than genuine talent.

* White Guy With Acoustic Guitar / White Chick With Piano: This doesn't deal with the literal setup of either, although Todd does call it the bare minimum effort. It is the ''mindset'' behind such songs that is likely to end up high on the list, possibly at #1.

* FemaleEmpowermentSong: Mainly those that overlap with the SelfEmpowermentAnthem or are just straight up misandric.
* [[SirSwearsALot Gratuitous swearing]]: Using a curse word [[PrecisionFStrike at the right time and in the right context]] can add [[ThisIsForEmphasisBitch emphasis]] to lyrics, but a ClusterFBomb for the sake of it is often a tell-tell sign of lazy/bad songwriting and immaturity.

* Meme/Viral songs:
** Todd tends to dislike tracks whose initial chart success was due to a social media trend. He may give a pass to older songs that were actual hits when they were originally released but later resurface as a meme, such as Music/{{Rick Astley}}'s "[[JustForFun/{{Rickroll}} Never Gonna Give You Up]]".
** Songs written with the ''intention'' of becoming viral, often to soundtrack stupid dance videos on Website/TikTok, are usually likely candidates to make Todd's worst lists.

* Ringtone rap: The mid-2000s SpiritualPredecessor to [=TikTok=] songs, these songs typcially had a [[BrokenRecord repeated catchy hook]], and most artists who emphasized making these kind of singles and were not already established tend to be one hit wonders who faded into obscurity almost as quickly as they had risen to fame.

* White Guy With Acoustic Guitar / White Chick With Piano: Considering how much Todd has complained about this "genre", it is likely to end up high on the list, possibly at #1.

* {{Yarling}}: Todd compares this style of "singing", often employed by rock artists since the 1990s, to "singing directly out of [one's] colon" when citing why Music/{{Nickelback}} frontman Chad Kroeger sucks.

* Music/BebeRexha: Todd calls her "a clip art stock photo" of a pop star.

* 4 Non-Blondes: They are responsible for Todd's most hated song of the 90's, and if Todd ''ever'' does an OHW episode about "What's Up", his opinion on their other work is likely to be negative, although there have been some cases where Todd hated the one big hit, but tolerated or even liked the rest of their output.

* Music/ChrisBrown: Had Todd made this list early in his career, Chris Brown would most likely have topped it. However, Todd admitted in the "Worst of 2014" that he doesn't have the passion to hate Chris Brown like he did in earlier videos, but Todd still finds him reprehensible nonetheless.

* Music/PussycatDolls: If Todd called Fifth Harmony a "less talented and charismatic" version of the Pussycat Dolls, then it's safe to say that Todd doesn't have a pretty high opinion of PCD.
* Music/BebeRexha: Todd calls her "a clip art stock photo of a pop star".

* HotterAndSexier: Often coinciding with DarkerAndEdgier, many former Creator/{{Disney|Channel}} and Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} child stars tend to go the route of blatant {{fanservice}} once their tenure with said networks end to shed their [[ContractualPurity child star image]]. While this is a predominately female phenomenon, there are a [[GenderInvertedTrope few male examples]] (e.g., Music/JustinTimberlake, Music/TheJonasBrothers).

** Songs ''intentionally'' written to be viral, often to soundtrack stupid dance videos on Website/TikTok, are usually likely candidates to make Todd's worst lists.

* Ringtone rap: The mid-2000s precursor to [=TikTok=] songs, these songs typcially had a [[BrokenRecord repeated catchy hook]], and most artists who emphasized making these kind of singles and were not already established tend to be one hit wonders who quickly faded into obscurity.

* "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight" by Music/{{Genesis|Band}}: Todd loves all of the other singles on Genesis' ''Invisible Touch'' album (even "In Too Deep"), but he finds this to be a complete mess, landing it at #5 on his Worst of 1987 list.

** Todd tends to dislike tracks whose initial chart success was due to a social media trend. He may give a pass to older songs that were actual hits when they were originally released but later resurface as a meme, such as Music/{{Rick Astley}}'s "[[JustForFun/Rickroll Never Gonna Give You Up]]".

* "Starships" by Music/NickiMinaj using "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star".

* [[SirSwearsALot Gratuitous swearing]]: Using a curse word [[PrecisionFStrike at the right time and in the right context]] can add [[ThisIsForEmphasisBitch emphasis]] to lyrics, but a ClusterFBomb for the sake of it is often a tell-tell sign of lazy songwriting and immaturity.

* HotterAndSexier: Often coinciding with DarkerAndEdgier, many former Creator/{{Disney|Channel}} and Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} child stars tend to go the route of blatant {{fanservice}} once their tenure with said networks end to shed their [[ContractualPurity child star image]]. While this is often a female phenomenon, there are a [[GenderInvertedTrope few male examples]] (e.g., Music/JustinTimberlake, Music/TheJonasBrothers).

** Todd tends to dislike tracks whose initial chart success was due to a social media trend. He may give a pass to older songs that were actual hits at the time of their original release but later resurface as a meme, such as Music/{{Rick Astley}}'s "Never Gonna Give You Up".
** Songs ''intentionally'' written to be a viral song, usually to soundtrack short form videos on Website/TikTok, are often likely candidates to make Todd's worst lists.

* {{Nepotism}}: Todd tends to dislike artists whose prominence is due to familial/inside connections rather than actual talent.

* Ringtone rap: The mid-2000s precursor to [=TikTok=] songs, these songs typcially had a [[BrokenRecord repeated catchy hook]], and most artists who emphasized making these kind of singles and were not already established tend to be one hit wonders who faded into obscurity.

* "We've Never Heard of You Either" by Evan and Jaron: He called the title salty in his OHW for "Crazy for this Girl"