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** [[Film/IronMan3 Wouldn't be the first time they've used a character as a base only to pull the rug out from under us]] [[note]] Yes I know different studios, doesn't mean they wouldn't do it. [[/note]]
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There are rumours of Hulu picking up all of the cancelled Netflix shows. This could also work with the DarkerAndEdgier tones of the shows, making the New Mutants feel right at home!
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[[WMG: If rumors are to be believed, [[spoiler:this will be the first MCU-Fox movie.]]
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[[WMG: If rumors are to be believed, [[spoiler:this this will be the first MCU-Fox movie.]]
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If the rumours of the movie being moved to Hulu are true. Maybe the Staff of One will appear somewhere in the hospital in one scene?
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[[WMG: The New Mutants will be connected to the Marvel Netflix shows]]
There are rumours of Hulu picking up all of the cancelled Netflix shows. This could also work with the DarkerAndEdgier tones of the shows, making the New Mutants feel right at home!
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[[WMG: The New Mutants will be connected to the Marvel Netflix shows]]
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[[WMG: The New Mutants will be connected to Series/Runaways]]
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[[WMG: The New Mutants will be connected to Series/Runaways]]Series/Runaways2017]]
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[[WMG: The New Mutants will be connected to Series/MarvelsRunaways]]
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Personally, I could see this happening. If the MCU is going to start out with the X-Men, it would be best for them to start small. There is also talk about the film being set in the 90s. In current day, mutants live in hiding to prevent the events of New Mutants happening again. After [[spoiler:Thanos' snap in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'', the Mutants will no longer live in hiding and defend the Earth.]]
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Personally, I could see this happening. If the MCU is going to start out with the X-Men, it would be best for them to start small. There is also talk about the film being set in the 90s. In current day, mutants live in hiding to prevent the events of New Mutants happening again. After [[spoiler:Thanos' snap in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'', the Mutants will no longer live in hiding and defend the Earth.]]]]
[[WMG: The New Mutants will be connected to Series/MarvelsRunaways]]
If the rumours of the movie being moved to Hulu are true.
[[WMG: The New Mutants will be connected to Series/MarvelsRunaways]]
If the rumours of the movie being moved to Hulu are true.
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** But '''none''' of these people are Vietnamese...
** But '''none''' of these people are Vietnamese...
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No mutants were discovered in Ant-Man and the Wasp. Also, fixing links.
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Personally, I could see this happening. If the MCU is going to start out with the X-Men, it would be best for them to start small. There is also talk about the film being set in the 90s. In current day, mutants live in hiding to prevent the events of New Mutants happening again. After [[spoiler:Thanos' snap in [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar]] and the discovery of mutants in [[Film/AntManAndTheWasp]], the Mutants will no longer live in hiding and defend the Earth.]]
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Personally, I could see this happening. If the MCU is going to start out with the X-Men, it would be best for them to start small. There is also talk about the film being set in the 90s. In current day, mutants live in hiding to prevent the events of New Mutants happening again. After [[spoiler:Thanos' snap in [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar]] and the discovery of mutants in [[Film/AntManAndTheWasp]], ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'', the Mutants will no longer live in hiding and defend the Earth.]]
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Personally, I could see this happening. If the MCU is going to start out with the X-Men, it would be best for them to start small. There is also talk about the film being set in the 90s. In current day, mutants live in hiding to prevent the events of New Mutants happening again. After [[spoiler:Thanos' snap in [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar]] and the discovery of mutants in [[Film/AntManAndTheWasp]], the Mutants will no longer live in hiding and defend the Earth.
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Personally, I could see this happening. If the MCU is going to start out with the X-Men, it would be best for them to start small. There is also talk about the film being set in the 90s. In current day, mutants live in hiding to prevent the events of New Mutants happening again. After [[spoiler:Thanos' snap in [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar]] and the discovery of mutants in [[Film/AntManAndTheWasp]], the Mutants will no longer live in hiding and defend the Earth.]]
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However, it's not because of the UnfortunateImplications (because she's [[TwoferTokenMinority Vietnamese and a lesbian]]) but because [[SirNotAppearingInThisTrailer her role is too spoiler-heavy to put in the trailers]]. Y'know, [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar just like]] [[MemeticMutation Hawkeye!]]
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However, it's not because of the UnfortunateImplications (because she's [[TwoferTokenMinority Vietnamese and a lesbian]]) but because [[SirNotAppearingInThisTrailer her role is too spoiler-heavy to put in the trailers]]. Y'know, [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar just like]] [[MemeticMutation Hawkeye!]]Hawkeye!]]
[[WMG: If the above theory is true, then Karma will be played by:]]
* Creator/Bex Taylor-Klaus
* [[OverlyLongGag Zendaya]]
[[WMG: If rumors are to be believed, [[spoiler:this will be the first MCU-Fox movie.]]
Personally, I could see this happening. If the MCU is going to start out with the X-Men, it would be best for them to start small. There is also talk about the film being set in the 90s. In current day, mutants live in hiding to prevent the events of New Mutants happening again. After [[spoiler:Thanos' snap in [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar]] and the discovery of mutants in [[Film/AntManAndTheWasp]], the Mutants will no longer live in hiding and defend the Earth.
[[WMG: If the above theory is true, then Karma will be played by:]]
* Creator/Bex Taylor-Klaus
* [[OverlyLongGag Zendaya]]
[[WMG: If rumors are to be believed, [[spoiler:this will be the first MCU-Fox movie.]]
Personally, I could see this happening. If the MCU is going to start out with the X-Men, it would be best for them to start small. There is also talk about the film being set in the 90s. In current day, mutants live in hiding to prevent the events of New Mutants happening again. After [[spoiler:Thanos' snap in [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar]] and the discovery of mutants in [[Film/AntManAndTheWasp]], the Mutants will no longer live in hiding and defend the Earth.
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Maybe to strengthen its connection to the rest of the brand. It'll still be mostly a horror movie, but with a few more overt nods to the rest of the universe it's in.
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Maybe to strengthen its connection to the rest of the brand. It'll still be mostly a horror movie, but with a few more overt nods to the rest of the universe it's in.in.
[[WMG: The absence of Karma is intentional.]]
However, it's not because of the UnfortunateImplications (because she's [[TwoferTokenMinority Vietnamese and a lesbian]]) but because [[SirNotAppearingInThisTrailer her role is too spoiler-heavy to put in the trailers]]. Y'know, [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar just like]] [[MemeticMutation Hawkeye!]]
[[WMG: The absence of Karma is intentional.]]
However, it's not because of the UnfortunateImplications (because she's [[TwoferTokenMinority Vietnamese and a lesbian]]) but because [[SirNotAppearingInThisTrailer her role is too spoiler-heavy to put in the trailers]]. Y'know, [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar just like]] [[MemeticMutation Hawkeye!]]
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This is how the Demon Bear will become powerful enough to threaten them despite it being vulnerable to their powers. Just like in the comics, it will draw power from negative emotions.
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This is how the Demon Bear will become powerful enough to threaten them despite it being vulnerable to their powers. Just like in the comics, it will draw power from negative emotions.emotions.
[[WMG: The reshoots are being used to make the film slightly more similar to the other X-Men movies]]
Maybe to strengthen its connection to the rest of the brand. It'll still be mostly a horror movie, but with a few more overt nods to the rest of the universe it's in.
[[WMG: The reshoots are being used to make the film slightly more similar to the other X-Men movies]]
Maybe to strengthen its connection to the rest of the brand. It'll still be mostly a horror movie, but with a few more overt nods to the rest of the universe it's in.
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** The Demon Bear is already a shapeshifter itself. And what would make for a better face reveal in a horror movie? A redheaded guy in a tunic or a gigantic bear with claws bigger than a person?
** Exactly, why would they use that story as a base but change the Demon Bear into another villain who already has similar powers?
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[[WMG: The facility is operated by the US government, possibly as an extension of Project X.]]
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[[WMG: The facility is operated by the US government, possibly as an extension of Project X.]]]]
[[WMG: The troubled backstories of our characters will be seen as nightmares they have at night]]
This is how the Demon Bear will become powerful enough to threaten them despite it being vulnerable to their powers. Just like in the comics, it will draw power from negative emotions.
[[WMG: The troubled backstories of our characters will be seen as nightmares they have at night]]
This is how the Demon Bear will become powerful enough to threaten them despite it being vulnerable to their powers. Just like in the comics, it will draw power from negative emotions.
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** Maybe they'll only kill off one of the kids, though?
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* It could be a "Belasco uses different illusory forms for each of the kids, and the bear is just what he uses for Dani" thing, but from the perspective of the guys handling press release info, there's really no reason they'd hide Belasco's identity, since he's not exactly popular enough that suddenly revealing him in the movie would be a dramatic twist.
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* It could be a "Belasco uses different illusory forms for each of the kids, and the bear is just what he uses for Dani" thing, but from the perspective of the guys handling press release info, there's really no reason they'd hide Belasco's identity, role, since he's not exactly popular enough that suddenly revealing him in the movie would be a dramatic twist.meaningful twist to anyone.
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* She'll have no connection to any of the New Mutants, X-Men, or X-23 kids, aside from being a fellow mutant. I mean, let's face it; if Rosario Dawson had been able to stay in the role as originally planned, no one would be assuming that she must be related to the other Latin American characters like Laura. If it was considered to have her character be that closely related to Laura or Sunspot, then Dawson would of never been set for the part in the first place (unless they tried to pull some really unconvincing FakeMixedRace).
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* She'll have no connection to any of the New Mutants, X-Men, or X-23 kids, aside from being a fellow mutant. I mean, let's face it; if Rosario Dawson had been able to stay in the role as originally planned, no one would be assuming that she must be related to the other Latin American characters like Laura. If it was considered to have her character be that closely related to Laura or Sunspot, then Dawson would of never been set for the part in the first place (unless they tried to pull some really unconvincing FakeMixedRace). I ''tried'' bringing these points up above, but it ''always'' got deleted, even if I resorted to just pointing out that the time scale doesn't add up and ignoring race and nationality altogether!
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* They have tons of villains aside from Belasco to use. And having it be that focused on Magik alone would be detrimental to establishing the whole team.
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* She'll have no connection to any of the New Mutants, X-Men, or X-23 kids, aside from being a fellow mutant. I mean, let's face it; if Rosario Dawson had been able to stay in the role as originally planned, no one would be assuming that she must be related to the other Latin American characters like Laura. If it was considered to have her character be that closely related to Laura or Sunspot, then Dawson would of never been set for the part in the first place (unless they tried to pull some really unconvincing FakeMixedRace).
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* Alternately, it'll turn out to be some kind of psychic message trying to warn the New Mutants about the real threat — probably a member of the facility staff who's insane or otherwise evil.
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* Alternately, it'll turn out to be some kind of psychic message trying to warn the New Mutants about the real threat — probably a member of the facility staff who's insane or otherwise evil.evil.
[[WMG: The facility is operated by the US government, possibly as an extension of Project X.]]
[[WMG: The facility is operated by the US government, possibly as an extension of Project X.]]
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[[WMG: Dani's Powers]]
All of the horrific imagery seen in the trailer will be revealed in the film to be a result of Dani's powers to manifest the fears of those she targets running out of control. This will serve as a RedHerring that will make the others doubt the existence of the Demon Bear.
All of the horrific imagery seen in the trailer will be revealed in the film to be a result of Dani's powers to manifest the fears of those she targets running out of control. This will serve as a RedHerring that will make the others doubt the existence of the Demon Bear.
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* It will all be revealed in the film to be a result of Dani's powers to manifest the fears of those she targets running out of control. This will serve as a RedHerring that will make the others doubt the existence of the Demon Bear.
* Alternately, it'll turn out to be some kind of psychic message trying to warn the New Mutants about the real
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* It could be a "Belasco uses different illusory forms for each of the kids, and the bear is just what he uses for Dani" thing, but from the perspective of the guys handling press release info, there's really no reason they'd hide Belasco's identity, since he's not exactly popular enough that suddenly revealing him in the movie would be a dramatic twist.
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Like Cassandra Nova, it appears to be going the "supernatural psychic astral entity" route. Maybe the term will be introduced as a word for evil spirit in certain local (fictional) indigenous peoples.
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Like Cassandra Nova, it appears to be going the "supernatural psychic astral entity" route. Maybe the term will be introduced as a word for evil spirit in certain local (fictional) indigenous peoples.peoples.
[[WMG: All the supernatural poltergeist stuff from the trailer will turn out to be harmless]]
In fact, it'll turn out to be some kind of psychic message trying to warn the New Mutants about the real threat- probably a member of the facility staff who's insane or otherwise evil.
[[WMG: All the supernatural poltergeist stuff from the trailer will turn out to be harmless]]
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The plot's said to feature the team "escaping from a secret facility". This seems as good an explanation as any for what was happening at that facility. Perhaps he'll be Fox's answer to [[Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron the Vision]].
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The plot's said to feature the team "escaping from a secret facility". This seems as good an explanation as any for what was happening at that facility. Perhaps However, he'll be revealed as a good guy in the end- maybe Fox's answer to [[Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron the Vision]]. Vision]]?
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* Reyes will be a DecompositeCharacter, with her name and status of a doctor going to [[AdaptationalVillainy the doctor running the facility keeping our heroes locked up]] and her heroic attributes being given to another character, possibly her younger relative.
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* Reyes will be a DecompositeCharacter, with her name and status of a doctor going to [[AdaptationalVillainy the doctor running the facility keeping our heroes locked up]] and her heroic attributes being given to another character, possibly her younger relative.relative.
[[WMG: The Demon Bear will be referred to as a mummudrai]]
Like Cassandra Nova, it appears to be going the "supernatural psychic astral entity" route. Maybe the term will be introduced as a word for evil spirit in certain local (fictional) indigenous peoples.
[[WMG: The Demon Bear will be referred to as a mummudrai]]
Like Cassandra Nova, it appears to be going the "supernatural psychic astral entity" route. Maybe the term will be introduced as a word for evil spirit in certain local (fictional) indigenous peoples.
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* She'll have no connection to any of the New Mutants, X-Men, or X-23 kids, aside from being a fellow mutant.mutant.
* Reyes will be a DecompositeCharacter, with her name and status of a doctor going to [[AdaptationalVillainy the doctor running the facility keeping our heroes locked up]] and her heroic attributes being given to another character, possibly her younger relative.
* Reyes will be a DecompositeCharacter, with her name and status of a doctor going to [[AdaptationalVillainy the doctor running the facility keeping our heroes locked up]] and her heroic attributes being given to another character, possibly her younger relative.
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* The Demon Bear will say "I have plagued humanity before mutants even began to be born, long before the time of [[Film/XMenApocalypse En Sabah Nur,]] [[Film/XMenTheLastStand long before the Phoenix Force]] [[Film/XMenDarkPhoenix drew out the Shi'ar to this world!]]"
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* The Demon Bear will say "I have plagued humanity before mutants even began to be born, long before the time of [[Film/XMenApocalypse En Sabah Nur,]] [[Film/XMenTheLastStand long and even longer before the Phoenix Force]] [[Film/XMenDarkPhoenix drew out set the Shi'ar on their quest to this world!]]"
exterminate it from the cosmos!]]"
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* The Demon Bear will say "I have plagued humanity before mutants even began to be born, long before the time of [[Film/XMenApocalypse En Sabah Nur,]] [[Film/XMen3 long before the Phoenix Force]] [[Film/XMenDarkPhoenix drew out the Shi'ar to this world!]]"
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* The Demon Bear will say "I have plagued humanity before mutants even began to be born, long before the time of [[Film/XMenApocalypse En Sabah Nur,]] [[Film/XMen3 [[Film/XMenTheLastStand long before the Phoenix Force]] [[Film/XMenDarkPhoenix drew out the Shi'ar to this world!]]"
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* Cannonball will be implied to be a member of Cable's team in the future.
* The Demon Bear will say "I have plagued humanity before mutants even began to be born, long before the time of [[Film/XMenApocalypse En Sabah Nur,]] [[Film/XMen3 long before the Phoenix Force]] [[Film/XMenDarkPhoenix drew out the Shi'ar to this world!]]"
* The Demon Bear will say "I have plagued humanity before mutants even began to be born, long before the time of [[Film/XMenApocalypse En Sabah Nur,]] [[Film/XMen3 long before the Phoenix Force]] [[Film/XMenDarkPhoenix drew out the Shi'ar to this world!]]"
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* Perhaps his drama can stem from realizing [[ObliviousAdoption he's not his parents' biological child.]]
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* Alternatively to the theory under XCU connections above, it will be revealed that Cecilia is ''Sunspot's'' mother. The actors are both Brazilian after all.
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* Alternatively to the theory under XCU connections above, it will be revealed that Cecilia is ''Sunspot's'' mother. The actors are both Brazilian after all.all.
* She'll have no connection to any of the New Mutants, X-Men, or X-23 kids, aside from being a fellow mutant.
* She'll have no connection to any of the New Mutants, X-Men, or X-23 kids, aside from being a fellow mutant.
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* WordOfGod is that the film is based on ''The Demon Bear Saga'', which lends credence to the Demon Bear being the villain instead.