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* {{Jossed}}. Reports suggest that it will be in the present day setting of the ''Deadpool'' films.

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* {{Jossed}}. Reports suggest that WordOfGod places it will be in the present day setting of the ''Deadpool'' films.
roughly contemporary with ''Film/Deadpool2016''.



[[WMG: Connections to the XCU]]

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[[WMG: Connections The film will make direct connections to the XCU]]rest of the X-Men Cinematic Universe]]



* The installation where the kids are being kept is somehow connected to the Workshop where Wade was experimented on. It will also be implied that [[Film/{{Logan}} Transigen]] is involved.

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* The installation where the kids are being kept is somehow connected to the Workshop where Wade was experimented on. It will may also be implied that [[Film/{{Logan}} Transigen]] or [[Film/XMenApocalypse Essex Corp.]] is involved.



** Alternatively, it will be revealed that she's ''Sunspot's'' mother. They actors are both Brazilian after all.

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** Alternatively, it
[[WMG: Connections to the other X-Men films
will be revealed kept very subtle]]
Alternately, as ''New Mutants'' is a significant OutOfGenreExperience, it won't be littered with overt links to the other films. Magik being the sister of Colossus will be the one
that she's ''Sunspot's'' mother. They actors are both Brazilian after all.
is directly referenced, but it won't feature an appearance by a full team of X-Men, and won't directly state that the hospital/facility is linked to any of the others aside from very vague hints at having "higher ups" above Dr. Reyes.



* As Josh Boone has said ''New Mutants'' is intended to be a trilogy, it's highly unlikely that any of the team will be killed off in the first movie.

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* As Not {{Jossed}} ''per say'', but Josh Boone has said ''New Mutants'' is intended to be a trilogy, trilogy. Therefore it's highly unlikely that any of the team will be killed off in off[[note]]in the first movie.
movie[[/note]].



[[WMG: Connections to the other X-Men films will be kept very subtle]]
This film is clearly being made to be something atypical in the franchise, so it'd make sense that the first movie won't be littered with overt links to the other films. Magik being the sister of Colossus will be the one that is directly referenced, but it won't feature an appearance by a full team of X-Men and won't directly state that the hospital/facility is linked to any of the others aside from very vague hints at having "higher ups" above Dr. Reyes.

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[[WMG: Connections Cecilia Reyes]]
* Alternatively
to the other X-Men films theory under XCU connections above, it will be kept very subtle]]
This film is clearly being made to be something atypical in the franchise, so it'd make sense
revealed that the first movie won't be littered with overt links to the other films. Magik being the sister of Colossus will be the one that Cecilia is directly referenced, but it won't feature an appearance by a full team of X-Men and won't directly state that the hospital/facility is linked to any of the others aside from very vague hints at having "higher ups" above Dr. Reyes.''Sunspot's'' mother. The actors are both Brazilian after all.
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He doesn't have the ability to look totally human, so he covers himself up when he isn't using his powers.

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He doesn't have the ability to look totally human, so he covers himself up when he isn't using his powers.powers.

[[WMG: Connections to the other X-Men films will be kept very subtle]]
This film is clearly being made to be something atypical in the franchise, so it'd make sense that the first movie won't be littered with overt links to the other films. Magik being the sister of Colossus will be the one that is directly referenced, but it won't feature an appearance by a full team of X-Men and won't directly state that the hospital/facility is linked to any of the others aside from very vague hints at having "higher ups" above Dr. Reyes.

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** Alternatively, it will be revealed that she's ''Sunspot's'' mother. They actors are both Brazilian after all.

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From the main WMG Page: "As long as a theory at least sounds like a theory, we'll assume that it's valid, no matter how improbable, contradictory or even Jossed it is. Let your hair down and play along with it." So let's jsut cut the debate. If it gets Jossed it gets Jossed. But AS OF NOW there's nothing that explicitly does.


** The film is presumably set in 2018, the year of it's release. If Laura's age corresponds with Dafne Keen's, she's probably eleven to twelve years old by 2029, when ''Logan'' is set. For this to line up timeline wise, than Cecilia would either have to be in Transigen's facility in Mexico in 2018 to give birth to Laura, which would mean she would be there and not in the United States during this film, or she gave birth to her in 2017 and was then set free or hired by them (if Transigen really does have anything to do with the facility in this film), rather than killed like Gabriela implied they did to the mothers of all the X-23 children.
*** WordOfGod is that it's contemporary with ''Deadpool''. It was never specified ''which'' ''Deadpool'' film that means, so could be as early as c.2016.[[note]]Compare 2017's ''Guardians of the Galaxy 2'', which was set in 2014, three months after the first film.[[/note]] Also, Gabriela's video (if we take her "ten years" literally) indicates she didn't start at Transigen until ''after'' Laura was born, (she was stated by Xavier to be 11, again, if we are to take her stated age at face value) so she may not have even known about Laura's mother, and was basing her comments on the children born later.

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** The film is presumably set in 2018, the year of it's release. If Laura's age corresponds with Dafne Keen's, she's probably eleven to twelve years old by 2029, when ''Logan'' is set. For this to line up timeline wise, than Cecilia would either have to be in Transigen's facility in Mexico in 2018 to give birth to Laura, which would mean she would be there and not in the United States during this film, or she gave birth to her in 2017 and was then set free or hired by them (if Transigen really does have anything to do with the facility in this film), rather than killed like Gabriela implied they did to the mothers of all the X-23 children.
*** WordOfGod is that it's contemporary with ''Deadpool''. It was never specified ''which'' ''Deadpool'' film that means, so could be as early as c.2016.[[note]]Compare 2017's ''Guardians of the Galaxy 2'', which was set in 2014, three months after the first film.[[/note]] Also, Gabriela's video (if we take her "ten years" literally) indicates she didn't start at Transigen until ''after'' Laura was born, (she was stated by Xavier to be 11, again, if we are to take her stated age at face value) so she may not have even known about Laura's mother, and was basing her comments on the children born later.
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*** WordOfGod is that it's contemporary with ''Deadpool''. It was never specified ''which'' ''Deadpool'' film that means, so could be as early as c.2016.[[note]]Compare 2017's ''Guardians of the Galaxy 2'', which was set in 2014, three months after the first film.[[/note]] Also, Gabriela's video (if we take her "ten years" literally) indicates she didn't start at Transigen until ''after'' Laura was born, (she was stated by Xavier to be 11, again, if we are to take her stated age at face value) so she may not have even known about Laura's mother, and was basing her comments on the children born later.

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** The film is presumably set in 2018, the year of it's release. If Laura's age corresponds with Dafne Keen's, she's probably eleven to twelve years old by 2029, when ''Logan'' is set. For this to line up timeline wise, than Cecilia would of had to of already had given birth to Laura and then just be let go by Transigen, which they wouldn't do given that they were implied to ''kill'' the other mothers.

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** The film is presumably set in 2018, the year of it's release. If Laura's age corresponds with Dafne Keen's, she's probably eleven to twelve years old by 2029, when ''Logan'' is set. For this to line up timeline wise, than Cecilia would of had either have to of already had given be in Transigen's facility in Mexico in 2018 to give birth to Laura and then just be let go by Transigen, Laura, which they wouldn't would mean she would be there and not in the United States during this film, or she gave birth to her in 2017 and was then set free or hired by them (if Transigen really does have anything to do given that they were with the facility in this film), rather than killed like Gabriela implied they did to ''kill'' the other mothers.
mothers of all the X-23 children.

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** The film is presumably set in 2018, the year of it's release. If Laura's age corresponds with Dafne Keen's, she's probably eleven to twelve years old by 2029, when ''Logan'' is set. For this to line up timeline wise, than Cecilia would of had to of already had given birth to Laura and then just be let go by Transigen, which they wouldn't do given that they were implied to ''kill'' the other mothers.

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This is a WILD MASS GUESSING page. Why the hell are we ARGUING about this? If you've got Word Of God or some specific detail about the film that Josses it, fine. But as of RIGHT NOW that's not the case.


** The women used to mother the X-23 kids were stated to be certain Mexican women who Transigen could easily abduct without anyone noticing, which suggests that the mothers were poor, homeless, runaways from abusive homes, or other similarly unfortunate lives. Which is quite far from being a certified doctor whose not even Mexican, but Puerto Rican.
*** Points of order: Puerto Rican and Mexican are ''nationalities'', not ''ethnicities''. Laura's mother just needs to be Hispanic to fit her ethnic profile. Furthermore, people generalize in real life ''all the damn time''. Gabriela's video can very much be correct if all the ''other'' children were born from Mexican women, with Laura being the exception. Maybe Gabriela wasn't aware that Laura's mother was different than the others. Or maybe she did and rightfully decided that "oh, except for the one chick who used to be a doctor" was ''completely irrelevant'' in light of everything else she was exposing. Furthermore, Transigen was already hiding what they were doing from the Mexican government, you don't think they could "disappear" a troublesome doctor if necessary (''especially'' if she was one ''already working for them'', if the WMG that the hospital in New Mutants is connected to Transigen comes to pass)?
*** I'm well aware that people generalize like this (''especially with Latin Americans''), in fact I believe it's the sole reason to suspect Cecilia is Laura's mother. If she wasn't (presumably) Hispanic, hell if she was [[RaceLift still Afro-Hispanic]], no one would make the connection. Sometimes not all brownish people are related!
*** And if Cecilia works for Transigen, ''forcing her to get inseminated for them'' would be harder for the company to pull off, since she's an ''insider'' who could exploit her knowledge to try and escape ''all the damn time.''
** Cecilia is apparently a mutant, while the women used by Transigen were stated to be humans (if they had mutants at their disposal, they wouldn't need the samples from mutants to impregnate them with).

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** The women used to mother the X-23 kids were stated to be certain Mexican women who Transigen could easily abduct without anyone noticing, which suggests that the mothers were poor, homeless, runaways from abusive homes, or other similarly unfortunate lives. Which is quite far from being a certified doctor whose not even Mexican, but Puerto Rican.
*** Points of order: Puerto Rican and Mexican are ''nationalities'', not ''ethnicities''. Laura's mother just needs to be Hispanic to fit her ethnic profile. Furthermore, people generalize in real life ''all the damn time''. Gabriela's video can very much be correct if all the ''other'' children were born from Mexican women, with Laura being the exception. Maybe Gabriela wasn't aware that Laura's mother was different than the others. Or maybe she did and rightfully decided that "oh, except for the one chick who used to be a doctor" was ''completely irrelevant'' in light of everything else she was exposing. Furthermore, Transigen was already hiding what they were doing from the Mexican government, you don't think they could "disappear" a troublesome doctor if necessary (''especially'' if she was one ''already working for them'', if the WMG that the hospital in New Mutants is connected to Transigen comes to pass)?
*** I'm well aware that people generalize like this (''especially with Latin Americans''), in fact I believe it's the sole reason to suspect Cecilia is Laura's mother. If she wasn't (presumably) Hispanic, hell if she was [[RaceLift still Afro-Hispanic]], no one would make the connection. Sometimes not all brownish people are related!
*** And if Cecilia works for Transigen, ''forcing her to get inseminated for them'' would be harder for the company to pull off, since she's an ''insider'' who could exploit her knowledge to try and escape ''all the damn time.''
** Cecilia is apparently a mutant, while the women used by Transigen were stated to be humans (if they had mutants at their disposal, they wouldn't need the samples from mutants to impregnate them with).
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*** I'm well aware that people generalize like this (''especially with Latin Americans''), in fact I believe it's the sole reason to suspect Cecilia is Laura's mother. If she wasn't (presumably) Hispanic, hell if she was [[RaceLift still Afro-Hispanic]], no one would make the connection. Sometimes not all brownish people are related!
*** And if Cecilia works for Transigen, ''forcing her to get inseminated for them'' would be harder for the company to pull off, since she's an ''insider'' who could exploit her knowledge to try and escape ''all the damn time.''

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*** **** I'm well aware that people generalize like this (''especially with Latin Americans''), in fact I believe it's the sole reason to suspect Cecilia is Laura's mother. If she wasn't (presumably) Hispanic, hell if she was [[RaceLift still Afro-Hispanic]], no one would make the connection. Sometimes not all brownish people are related!
*** **** And if Cecilia works for Transigen, ''forcing her to get inseminated for them'' would be harder for the company to pull off, since she's an ''insider'' who could exploit her knowledge to try and escape ''all the damn time.''

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*** I'm well aware that people generalize like this, in fact I believe it's the sole reason to suspect Cecilia is Laura's mother. If she wasn't (presumably) Hispanic, hell if she was [[RaceLift still Afro-Hispanic]], no one would make the connection. And if Cecilia works for Transigen, ''forcing her to get inseminated for them'' would be harder for the company to pull off, since she's an ''insider'' who could exploit her knowledge to try and escape ''all the damn time.''

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*** I'm well aware that people generalize like this, this (''especially with Latin Americans''), in fact I believe it's the sole reason to suspect Cecilia is Laura's mother. If she wasn't (presumably) Hispanic, hell if she was [[RaceLift still Afro-Hispanic]], no one would make the connection. Sometimes not all brownish people are related!
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And if Cecilia works for Transigen, ''forcing her to get inseminated for them'' would be harder for the company to pull off, since she's an ''insider'' who could exploit her knowledge to try and escape ''all the damn time.''

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*** I'm well aware that people generalize like this, in fact I believe it's the sole reason to suspect Cecilia is Laura's mother. If she wasn't hispanic, hell if she was [[RaceLift still Afro-Hispanic]], no one would make the connection. And if Cecilia works for Transigen, ''forcing her to get inseminated for them'' would be harder for the company to pull off, since she's an ''insider'' who could exploit her knowledge to try and escape ''all the damn time.''

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*** **** I'm well aware that people generalize like this, in fact I believe it's the sole reason to suspect Cecilia is Laura's mother. If she wasn't hispanic, (presumably) Hispanic, hell if she was [[RaceLift still Afro-Hispanic]], no one would make the connection. And if Cecilia works for Transigen, ''forcing her to get inseminated for them'' would be harder for the company to pull off, since she's an ''insider'' who could exploit her knowledge to try and escape ''all the damn time.''
** Cecilia is apparently a mutant, while the women used by Transigen were stated to be humans (if they had mutants at their disposal, they wouldn't need the samples from mutants to impregnate them with).

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**** I'm well aware that people generalize like this, in fact I believe it's the sole reason to suspect Cecilia is Laura's mother. If she wasn't hispanic, hell if she was [[RaceLift still Afro-Hispanic]], no one would make the connection. And if Cecilia works for Transigen, ''forcing her to get inseminated for them'' would be harder for the company to pull off, since she's an ''insider'' who could exploit her knowledge to try and escape ''all the damn time.''
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* As Josh Boone has said ''New Mutants'' is intended to be a trilogy, it's highly unlikely that any of the team will be killed off in the first movie.

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** In fact, the events of this film will be ''why'' Transigen relocates to Mexico.




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*** Points of order: Puerto Rican and Mexican are ''nationalities'', not ''ethnicities''. Laura's mother just needs to be Hispanic to fit her ethnic profile. Furthermore, people generalize in real life ''all the damn time''. Gabriela's video can very much be correct if all the ''other'' children were born from Mexican women, with Laura being the exception. Maybe Gabriela wasn't aware that Laura's mother was different than the others. Or maybe she did and rightfully decided that "oh, except for the one chick who used to be a doctor" was ''completely irrelevant'' in light of everything else she was exposing. Furthermore, Transigen was already hiding what they were doing from the Mexican government, you don't think they could "disappear" a troublesome doctor if necessary (''especially'' if she was one ''already working for them'', if the WMG that the hospital in New Mutants is connected to Transigen comes to pass)?

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** The women used to mother the X-23 kids were stated to be certain Mexican women who Transigen could easily abduct without anyone noticing, which suggests that the mothers were poor, homeless, runaways from abusive homes, or other similarly unfortunate lives. Which is quite far from being a certified doctor (who isn't even from Mexico, nor living in Mexico).

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** The women used to mother the X-23 kids were stated to be certain Mexican women who Transigen could easily abduct without anyone noticing, which suggests that the mothers were poor, homeless, runaways from abusive homes, or other similarly unfortunate lives. Which is quite far from being a certified doctor (who isn't whose not even from Mexico, nor living in Mexico).
Mexican, but Puerto Rican.

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** The women used to mother the X-23 kids were stated to be certain Mexican women who Transigen could easily abduct without anyone noticing, which suggests that the mothers were poor, homeless, runaways from abusive homes, or other similarly unfortunate live. Which is quite far from being a certified doctor who isn't even from Mexico (neither the original character ''or Alice Braga are Mexican, but Puerto Rican and Brazilian respectively).

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** The women used to mother the X-23 kids were stated to be certain Mexican women who Transigen could easily abduct without anyone noticing, which suggests that the mothers were poor, homeless, runaways from abusive homes, or other similarly unfortunate live. lives. Which is quite far from being a certified doctor who (who isn't even from Mexico (neither the original character ''or Alice Braga are Mexican, but Puerto Rican and Brazilian respectively).
Mexico, nor living in Mexico).

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** The women used to mother the X-23 kids were stated to be certain Mexican women who Transigen could easily abduct without anyone noticing, which suggests that the mothers were poor, homeless, runaways from abusive homes, or other similarly unfortunate live. Which is quite far from being a certified doctor who isn't even from Mexico (neither the original character ''or Alice Braga are Mexican, but Puerto Rican and Brazilian respectively).



* Perhaps it'll be Cecelia Reyes instead of any of the mutants.

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* Perhaps it'll be Cecelia Reyes instead of any of the mutants.



Maybe in this version, he's of mixed descent and one of his parents are Afro-Brazilian. That still provides some of the drama from his backstory. Doesn't fix the whole thing but it's at least something

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Maybe in this version, he's of mixed descent and one of his parents are Afro-Brazilian. That still provides some of the drama from his backstory. Doesn't fix the whole thing but it's at least somethingsomething.

[[WMG: The man in the paper mask from the trailer is actually Warlock]]
He doesn't have the ability to look totally human, so he covers himself up when he isn't using his powers.
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Considering that this is a horror movie, this is a given. [[MoodWhiplash And the fanboy rage that results from a fan favorite being killed off]] [[{{Troll}} would be fun to watch!]]

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Considering that this is a horror movie, this is a given. [[MoodWhiplash And the fanboy rage that results from a fan favorite being killed off]] [[{{Troll}} would be fun to watch!]]watch!]]

[[WMG: They will somehow address Sunspot's RaceLift]]
Maybe in this version, he's of mixed descent and one of his parents are Afro-Brazilian. That still provides some of the drama from his backstory. Doesn't fix the whole thing but it's at least something
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* Cecilia Reyes will be revealed to be [[Film/{{Logan}} Laura's]] mother.
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Considering that this is a horror movie, this is a given. [[MoodWhiplash And the fanboy rage that results from a fan favorite being killed off]] [[{{Troll would be fun to watch!]]

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Considering that this is a horror movie, this is a given. [[MoodWhiplash And the fanboy rage that results from a fan favorite being killed off]] [[{{Troll [[{{Troll}} would be fun to watch!]]
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* One or more of the X-Men will appear to collect the kids and bring them to the school once they escape.

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* One or more of the X-Men will appear to collect the kids and bring them to the school once they escape.escape.

[[WMG: [[DwindlingParty Not everyone's going to make it out alive]].]]
Considering that this is a horror movie, this is a given. [[MoodWhiplash And the fanboy rage that results from a fan favorite being killed off]] [[{{Troll would be fun to watch!]]
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All of the horrific imagery seen in the trailer will be revealed in the film to be a result of Dani's powers to manifest the fears of those she targets running out of control. This will serve as a RedHerring that will make the others doubt the existence of the Demon Bear.

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All of the horrific imagery seen in the trailer will be revealed in the film to be a result of Dani's powers to manifest the fears of those she targets running out of control. This will serve as a RedHerring that will make the others doubt the existence of the Demon Bear.Bear.

[[WMG: Connections to the XCU]]
The film is indicated to be set at roughly the same time frame as ''Film/Deadpool2016'', which means we're going to see the following connections trying it into the present day setting of the X-Men Film Universe:
* Illyana, being Colossus' sister, is one all on its own. At some point she'll mention an older brother she's not seen for a while.
* The installation where the kids are being kept is somehow connected to the Workshop where Wade was experimented on. It will also be implied that [[Film/{{Logan}} Transigen]] is involved.
* A post-credits scene will set up ''Deadpool II'' or ''X-Force'', possibly including a cameo by Colossus looking for Illyana.
* One or more of the X-Men will appear to collect the kids and bring them to the school once they escape.
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Presuming, of course, [[ContinuitySnarl that Fox is even worried about continuity at this point]].

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Presuming, of course, [[ContinuitySnarl that Fox is even worried about continuity at this point]].point]].
* {{Jossed}}. Reports suggest that it will be in the present day setting of the ''Deadpool'' films.

[[WMG: Dani's Powers]]
All of the horrific imagery seen in the trailer will be revealed in the film to be a result of Dani's powers to manifest the fears of those she targets running out of control. This will serve as a RedHerring that will make the others doubt the existence of the Demon Bear.
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* In another quiet agreement with Marvel Studios, Fox will be careful to always call him Warlock, and the Guardians of the Galaxy will only ever call their similarly named character Adam.

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* In another quiet agreement with Marvel Studios, Fox will be careful to always call him Warlock, and the Guardians of the Galaxy will only ever call their similarly named character Adam.Adam.

[[WMG: The story will be set in the same time period as ''Film/{{Logan}}'']]
Presuming, of course, [[ContinuitySnarl that Fox is even worried about continuity at this point]].
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* The Demon Bear from Dani's dreams is alleged to be in the film. Perhaps it'll be one of Belasco's many forms, making him an {{Expy}} for [[Film/NightmareOnElmStreet Freddy]], the quintessential monster from teen horror films

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* The Demon Bear from Dani's dreams is alleged to be in the film. Perhaps it'll be one of Belasco's many forms, making him an {{Expy}} for [[Film/NightmareOnElmStreet [[Franchise/ANightmareOnElmStreet Freddy]], the quintessential monster from teen horror films

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* They could possibly save him for a sequel, and foreshadow his existence in the first New Mutants film.
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* The Demon Bear from Dani's dreams is alleged to be in the film. Perhaps it'll be one of Belasco's many forms, making him an {{Expy}} for [[Film/NightmareOnElmStreet Freddy]], the quintessential monster from teen horror films

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* The Demon Bear from Dani's dreams is alleged to be in the film. Perhaps it'll be one of Belasco's many forms, making him an {{Expy}} for [[Film/NightmareOnElmStreet Freddy]], the quintessential monster from teen horror filmsfilms

[[WMG: Warlock will appear as a prototype future Sentinel created from experiments done on the New Mutants]]
The plot's said to feature the team "escaping from a secret facility". This seems as good an explanation as any for what was happening at that facility. Perhaps he'll be Fox's answer to [[Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron the Vision]].
* In another quiet agreement with Marvel Studios, Fox will be careful to always call him Warlock, and the Guardians of the Galaxy will only ever call their similarly named character Adam.
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I admit I can't think of how exactly they'll do him, but there're only so many villains they have left to use. Magik is confirmed and ''Limbo'' would sort of fit the idea of it being a "teen horror movie". Perhaps he'll be another mutant in the vein of Nightcrawler or Azazel, but immortal (using Apocalypse's technology, perhaps?).

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I admit I can't think of how exactly they'll do him, but there're only so many villains they have left to use. Magik is confirmed and ''Limbo'' would sort of fit the idea of it being a "teen horror movie". Perhaps he'll be another mutant in the vein of Nightcrawler or Azazel, but immortal (using Apocalypse's technology, perhaps?).perhaps?).
* The Demon Bear from Dani's dreams is alleged to be in the film. Perhaps it'll be one of Belasco's many forms, making him an {{Expy}} for [[Film/NightmareOnElmStreet Freddy]], the quintessential monster from teen horror films
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[[WMG: Belasco will be the villain]]
I admit I can't think of how exactly they'll do him, but there're only so many villains they have left to use. Magik is confirmed and ''Limbo'' would sort of fit the idea of it being a "teen horror movie". Perhaps he'll be another mutant in the vein of Nightcrawler or Azazel, but immortal (using Apocalypse's technology, perhaps?).

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