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[WMG: Statler and Waldorf are Fozzie's own insecurities speaking to him]]

Bacically All of the Muppet Characters Don't Exist And In Reality They were All Fantasy Characters By A Puppeteer Named Jim You See Jim Is A Puppeteer Who creates Human And Animal Puppets.one of his Puppets Kermit the frog Is Jim's Popular Puppet And Is Asked To Come to Hollywood to Show off his kermit Puppet But then his puppet Breaks Into fluff And Jim Depressed Cancels his trip to hollywood So he Imagines His Puppet Kermit Coming to life and Have A mind of his own! In Fact [[Film/TheMuppetMovie The Muppet Movie]] Is Acually A Dream By Jim Imagining of His kermit Puppet Walking And Traveling to Hollywood And Imagines A villan Named Doc Hopper Defeating His Puppet. Not only That But He Adds His other Puppets Fozzie Bear Miss Piggy Gonzo standorf and waldorf and Bunsen Honeydew Into his Fantasy Franshise And Gave them Personalities. And Based Them Off Of People He Knew For Example Fozzie's Lame Jokes and Personality Are Based off of jims Friend Named Harold Who also told Unfunny Jokes. Miss piggy is meant to Represent his Neighbor who is Fat and has A crush on him (With Jim Calling Her A Pig) Standorf and Wardorf Are Based Off of his Uncles Who Both Always Laugh Funny in Real Life And Last But Not Least.Kermit Is Meant To Represent Jim Himself!. For Example In the Muppet Movie Kermit Pursues A Career In hollywood to Become A star In Reality Kermit Is Acually Representing His own Puppeteer's Career Of Becoming A Puppeteer Star Jim starts imagining all his puppets talking and going on adventures After That Jim Decides to imagine his puppets in their Own [[Series/TheMuppetShow Tv Show]] at that creating Other Non existent Media for his Puppets At This Point He Starts To Go Insane! And Decides to Change His last Name Into Henson Instead of Johnson And thus The Muppet Franshise Was Born And It Never Existed Even The Muppet Babies Are Also An Imagination From Jim Imagining His Own Puppets as Living Babies And Also Decides to Not Name The Characters Puppets. But Instead Muppets! Because That was the Whole Point Of the Imaginated Franshise That Never Existed To Begin With!

Bacically All of the Muppwt Characters Don't Exist And In Reality They were All Fantasy Characters By A Puppeteer Named Jim You See Jim Is A Puppeteer Who creates Human And Animal Puppets.one of his Puppets Kermit the frog Is Jim's Popular Puppet And Is Asked To Come to Hollywood to Show off his kermit Puppet But then his puppet Breaks Into fluff And Jim Depressed Cancels his trip to hollywood So he Imagines His Puppet Kermit Coming to life and Have A mind of his own! In Fact [[Film/TheMuppetMovie The Muppet Movie Is Acually A Dream By Jim Dreaming of His kermit Puppet Walking And Traveling to Hollywood And Imagines A villan Named Doc Hopper Defeating His Puppet. Not only That But He Adds His other Puppets Fozzie Bear Miss Piggy Gonzo standorf and waldorf and Bunsen Honeydew Into his Fantasy Franshise And Gave them Personalities. For Example Fozzie's Lame Jokes and Personality Are Based off of jims Friend Named Harold Who also told Unfunny Jokes. Miss piggy is meant to Represent his Neighbor who is Fat and has A crush on him (With Jim Calling Her A Pig

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** Yoda, for a second ''Franchise/StarWars'' episode ([[CaptainObvious of course]] [[ForegoneConclusion Yoda would appear]]). If Creator/FrankOz returns to perform/voice Yoda, he could also perform his Muppet characters again (if Yoda's CGI) or prerecord his characters' voices for Eric Jacobson to perform them to (if Yoda's a puppet, which is more fitting given the nature of the show and Frank's history with it). Oh, and of course [[DarthVaderClone Dearth Nadir]] would return.

** [[KingdomHearts Sora]], WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck and WesternAnimation/{{Goofy}} (CGI). If we have a Muppets world in an upcoming ''KingdomHearts'' game then Disney would probably do this to plug the game. They'd probably be video game characters [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment from the video game world]] in-universe.

* We'll get more [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome original songs]], and some old favorites (like "Movin' Right Along" and "Bein' Green") will return. Probably even an AwardBaitSong over the end credits, either a remix of a new song, a song from the first movie (probably "Man or Muppet"), or a classic Muppet song (Music/{{Weezer}} and [[Music/{{Paramore}} Hayley Williams]]' cover of "The Rainbow Connection" would have been perfect for this).

*** After a prolonged hospital stay, [[MostDefinitelyNotAVillain Tex Richman asks the Muppets if he can be their guest star]], and Kermit feels that it's the best thing to do to repay him for his [[spoiler: bowling-ball-induced]] kindness. He spends the episode pretending to still be a good guy (and fooling the Muppets) while trying to destroy the Muppet Theater again, but constantly getting (unintentionally) foiled. At the end of the episode, [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor he reveals his true colors]] during the big closing number, but the police comes and takes him away for property damage done during the events of the movie, and it's revealed that Beaker [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass was in on the whole thing]] and called the cops. Oh, and he also gets [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome a well-placed karate chop in the face from Miss Piggy]]. [[MST3KMantra Just ignore whether the movie is supposed to be "fiction" or not.]]

* Jossed. It was "Rainbow Connection." [[HeartwarmingMoment Although the crying part is confirmed.]]

[[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees I really hope this one isn't true.]]

*** This would probably depend on Muppet Studios' relationship with Hasbro and TheHub, and how well they could handle the episode without making it look like an ad for TheHub or a blatant attempt to pander to bronies and Internet hipsters. If not, they could throw a few brony jokes in the below "Fozzie tries to be hip" episode, where Fozzie ostentatiously proclaims his newfound MLP fandom and it comes off completely wrong (he ends up liking the show [[GirlShowGhetto because of all the sparkles and rainbows]] instead of the plot and humor, or watches G3.5 by accident or something).

*** Similar to the William Shatner suggestion above, [[ForegoneConclusion Cee-Lo would probably perform "Forget You" with the chickens]] ''and'' do it while dressed the way he was when performing the song with the Henson puppets (a CallBack to EltonJohn's performance on ''Series/TheMuppetShow'' itself).

** [[KingdomHearts Sora]], DonaldDuck and {{Goofy}} (CGI). If we have a Muppets world in an upcoming ''KingdomHearts'' game then Disney would probably do this to plug the game. They'd probably be video game characters [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment from the video game world]] in-universe.

* A good way to connect both Gonzo's EarlyInstallmentWeirdness and his GiveADogABone [[MuppetsFromSpace film spotlight]].

Note how the aliens in MuppetsFromSpace refer to Gonzo as "brother," not "son." Gonzo's parents never wanted him. Only his brothers and sisters came looking for him.

[[WMG: Gonzo's businessman act was a result of what happened to him in MuppetsFromSpace.]]

After that, his sidekick was Rizzo. Gonzo was more communicative with his new friend (possibly helped by the fact that Rizzo speaks English), but could still be negligent ([[AMuppetChristmasCarol "Rizzo, stop playing with the cat!"]])

In MuppetsFromSpace, Gonzo almost leaves Earth with his alien family, and reconsiders at the last minute because of his Muppet "family" on Earth. In context, this just seems like the same cliched message a lot of family movies would have. But when one considers all of Gonzo's relationships, it makes a lot of sense.

** In the 2015 show they're shown to hang out together more again, together with Pepe, being the writers for ''Up Late With Miss Piggy.'' As of episode 12 (which confirms that Camilla did leave, though she makes a surprise return), they're roomates again, all three of them sharing an appartment.

This is why Gonzo's performance art goes over everyone's heads. He knows its deep meaning, but can't for the life of him explain it to us. It's because his species are on a completely different evolutionary plane than humans, frogs, pigs, or anything else on earth. After MuppetsFromSpace, Gonzo never went into much detail in interviews about his alien family or his species, because he couldn't explain it to us if he tried. Our minds are too simple.

* We'll get more [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome original songs]], and some old favorites (like "Movin' Right Along" and "Bein' Green") will return. Probably even an AwardBaitSong over the end credits, either a remix of a new song, a song from the first movie (probably "Man or Muppet"), or a classic Muppet song ({{Weezer}} and [[{{Paramore}} Hayley Williams]]' cover of "The Rainbow Connection" would have been perfect for this).

** AmyAdams, similar to the Creator/JasonSegel idea above. She'd perform songs both from the Muppets movie and ''Film/{{Enchanted}}'', dressed as Princess Giselle for the latter (and since Disney owns the Muppets, the homage could probably go quite deep).

** WilliamShatner. One of the most likely guests, seeing him with the Muppets would be [[CrazyAwesome pure awesome]]. He could hijack the Swinetrek in his [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries Captain Kirk]] persona just like the ''Franchise/StarWars'' stars did and even perform a [[Music/{{Queen}} Bohemian Rhapsody]] mashup since both he and the Muppets covered the song.

** Creator/SamuelLJackson. Just like WilliamShatner, this would be [[RuleOfCool pure unadulterated awesome]]. Maybe both Mace Windu and Yoda could be in the new ''StarWars'' episode, or Dearth Nadir could appear with Sam playing Mace. He could also do a PG-rated parody of the various memes from ''Film/SnakesOnAPlane'' (most likely quoting the [[SoBadItsGood "melon farming snakes on this Monday-to-Friday plane"]] TV edit line verbatim).

** Since she's a VirtualCelebrity, [[{{Vocaloid}} Hatsune Miku]] (in CGI), depending on how much Crypton wants to push marketing for her American release (which means she'd speak English, with some GratuitousJapanese). The subtitler from Pöpcørn could return (possibly even as a full character) for her Japanese songs. A {{Music/Gorillaz}} episode could operate on a similar principle.

*** The Muppets use one of Bunsen's and Beaker's devices to turn into CGI characters and do their first-ever computer-animated show in the computer world, in order to stand a chance against all those kids' movies out there[[note]]]which would probably be represented in-universe as something generic like "[[Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks Melvin and the]] [[CaptainErsatz Turkey Gang]]" or something like that[[/note]]. This could be the [[{{Vocaloid}} Hatsune Miku]] episode, and since this is Creator/{{Disney}} we're talking about, we'll probably get [[ShoutOut Shout Outs]] to ''Film/{{TRON}}'' and [[Film/TronLegacy its sequel]]. Waldo C. Graphic would probably appear in this.

** More guests: Martin Short, Music/WeirdAlYankovic, Creator/AnneHathaway, Melissa [=McCarthy=], Creator/TinaFey, NataliePortman, the cast of ''Glee'', the cast of ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'', Steve Carell, Creator/JohnnyDepp, the crew of a Cirque Du Soleil show, and Tom Selleck.

** except for MuppetBabies, but that was based on a scene in MTM and it was animated.

** Various not-widely-hated artists and musical groups, such as the Music/FooFighters, MichaelBuble, OwlCity, Maroon Five, KatyPerry, {{Feist}} (who appeared in the movie), and others. I can see Cee Lo Green and will i. am. performing too.

In the promotional material, Walter actually has no brothers (at least not confirmed) and he's actually playing a character which coincidentally is called Walter as well. He knows Jason Segel as Jason Segel the actor who plays the brother of Walter the character. Also, Kermit has said in interviews several times that one the movie and the other is the "real" life. I'm guessing, out of respect of the Muppeteers who probably didn't like what was erased out of the continuity from TheMuppetsTakeManhattan to this movie (except Bobo and Pepe), that the new show will have the continuity of the promotional material instead of the movie per se. This will be kind of easy- Walter just has to not say anything about his past and the rest of the Muppets don't have to say anything about the time they were separated and that it!

In the earliest Muppet movies, Gonzo's sidekick was his girlfriend Camilla. He clearly loved Camilla (recall him offering his own life in exchange for hers when she was taken hostage in TheMuppetsTakeManhattan). But their relationship was strained by his wandering eyes, and his flirtations with Miss Piggy (often right in front of Camilla). Is it any surprise that Camilla vanished from the picture for most of the '90s? She probably got fed up and left him for a while.

** The junior novel mentioned that they disbanded after a fight between Kermit and Miss Piggy where they married 'for the show'. They had a [[TheMuppetsTakeManhattan staged wedding in which Miss Piggy had a real priest appear instead of Gonzo without Kermit knowing about it beforehand]], so they broke up after that, which made Kermit depressed and distant.

** AmyAdams, similar to the Creator/JasonSegel idea above. She'd perform songs both from the Muppets movie and ''{{Enchanted}}'', dressed as Princess Giselle for the latter (and since Disney owns the Muppets, the homage could probably go quite deep).

*** IggyAzalea. A plot point could be Iggy performing one of her trademark freestyles, Resulting in a) everyone being too polite to tell her they can't understand a word she just said, and b) [[TheUnintelligible Beaker and the Swedish Chef]] falling in love with her.

* In order to appeal to hipsters, [[ExecutiveMeddling Disney executives]] will demand that [[BaseBreaker Pepe]] be given a bigger role. Thanks to competent writers, [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap this will turn out to be a good thing]].