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** [[https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Be-Prepared-Will-Be-Featured-in-THE-LION-KING-Live-Action-Film-20190203 Not so fast.]]
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** Un-jossed - [[https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Be-Prepared-Will-Be-Featured-in-THE-LION-KING-Live-Action-Film-20190203 apparently (if this is correct), it will be included.]]
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[[WMG: The film could be a hybrid]]
Even though this is obviously a remake of the 1994 film and we will again see many familiar scenes such as Rafiki showing baby Simba, the infamous Wildebeest stampede and Scar murdering his brother the film will possibly burrow elements from Simba’s Pride. For example it is rumoured ‘He lives in You’ the opening song from the sequel will be played when Simba sees the ghost of his father. And the climax will likely involve Scar leading the hyenas to war against the Pride being led by Simba. And it could possibly rain during the battle and after Scar dies the rain stops signaling the end of the conflict in contrast to the original film where it rained after the climax.
Even though this is obviously a remake of the 1994 film and we will again see many familiar scenes such as Rafiki showing baby Simba, the infamous Wildebeest stampede and Scar murdering his brother the film will possibly burrow elements from Simba’s Pride. For example it is rumoured ‘He lives in You’ the opening song from the sequel will be played when Simba sees the ghost of his father. And the climax will likely involve Scar leading the hyenas to war against the Pride being led by Simba. And it could possibly rain during the battle and after Scar dies the rain stops signaling the end of the conflict in contrast to the original film where it rained after the climax.
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[[WMG: Nala is a major character]]
Unlike the 1994 version Nala being voiced by Beyoncé will have a bigger role in the film. It is likely she gets sexually harassed by Scar following the death of Mufusa and she refuses to be his mate and gets banished where she reunites with Simba.
[[WMG: Scar might kill Sarabi]]
In the original film Scar laid a paw on Sarabi before Simba turns up. As this film is darker it could be possible it will go up a level and Scar will kill Sarabi this time around.
Unlike the 1994 version Nala being voiced by Beyoncé will have a bigger role in the film. It is likely she gets sexually harassed by Scar following the death of Mufusa and she refuses to be his mate and gets banished where she reunites with Simba.
[[WMG: Scar might kill Sarabi]]
In the original film Scar laid a paw on Sarabi before Simba turns up. As this film is darker it could be possible it will go up a level and Scar will kill Sarabi this time around.
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[[WMG: Mufusa’s body might be cut. ]]
Even though we know Mufusa will die in the hands of Scar Simba this time around might not even find his father’s body. Instead Simba will possibly witness his father fall back into the stampede and obviously because he never saw Scar kill him Simba could be convinced that his father died because of him and he will run away heartbroken and guilt ridden instead of us simply seeing Mufusa lying dead and Scar lying to Simba he ‘killed’ him. And Scar who is convinced Simba will not survive on his own takes over as King.
Even though we know Mufusa will die in the hands of Scar Simba this time around might not even find his father’s body. Instead Simba will possibly witness his father fall back into the stampede and obviously because he never saw Scar kill him Simba could be convinced that his father died because of him and he will run away heartbroken and guilt ridden instead of us simply seeing Mufusa lying dead and Scar lying to Simba he ‘killed’ him. And Scar who is convinced Simba will not survive on his own takes over as King.
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* Jossed; leaked merchandise material shows that Scar is keeping his dark coloration in this film.
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Be Prepared will be put back in the film, but as a surprise
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With what IMDB was saying about Be Prepared being put back in, Disney might want to hold back on confirming this until the film comes out. Though it could be revealed before the film comes if the soundtrack comes out
[[WMG: There be more ''Theater/Hamlet'' references]]
Maybe Simba will pretend to be mad for a little while.
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[[WMG: Scar will return from exile]]
While still Mufusa’s younger brother Scar will possibly have a different role to the 1994 film. Like Zira Scar may be in exile and when he learns Simba is born from messengers presumably the hyenas he decides to plan his revenge on being King just like Ursula wanting to be ruler of the oceans in The Little Mermaid. We will probably get a backstory on why he got exiled. He will probably hire the hyenas to tell Simba about the place Mufusa forbid’s Simba to go to and Simba goes there with Nala only for it to be trap and Mufusa saves them and Scar comes up with the stampede idea as another plan. After thinking both Simba and Mufusa dead Scar will suprise the Pride by returning to Pride Rock and takes the thorne himself thus getting his revenge instead of him simply being second in line to be King which occurred in the original film and broadway musical. So in other words Scar may be Zira and Ursula rolled into one.
While still Mufusa’s younger brother Scar will possibly have a different role to the 1994 film. Like Zira Scar may be in exile and when he learns Simba is born from messengers presumably the hyenas he decides to plan his revenge on being King just like Ursula wanting to be ruler of the oceans in The Little Mermaid. We will probably get a backstory on why he got exiled. He will probably hire the hyenas to tell Simba about the place Mufusa forbid’s Simba to go to and Simba goes there with Nala only for it to be trap and Mufusa saves them and Scar comes up with the stampede idea as another plan. After thinking both Simba and Mufusa dead Scar will suprise the Pride by returning to Pride Rock and takes the thorne himself thus getting his revenge instead of him simply being second in line to be King which occurred in the original film and broadway musical. So in other words Scar may be Zira and Ursula rolled into one.
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While still Mufusa’s younger brother Scar will possibly have a different role to the 1994 film. Like Zira Scar may be in exile and when he learns Simba is born from messengers presumably the hyenas he decides to plan his revenge on being King just like Ursula wanting to be ruler of the oceans in The Little Mermaid. We will probably get a backstory on why he got exiled. He will probably hire the hyenas to tell Simba about the place Mufusa forbid’s Simba to go to and Simba goes there with Nala only for it to be trap and Mufusa saves them and Scar comes up with the stampede idea as another plan. After thinking both Simba and Mufusa dead Scar will suprise the Pride by returning to Pride Rock and takes the thorne himself thus getting his revenge instead of him simply being second in line to be King which occurred in the original film and broadway musical. So in other words Scar may be Zira and Ursula rolled into one.
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[[WMG: Scar will return from exile]]
While still Mufusa’s younger brother Scar will possibly have a different role to the 1994 film. Like Zira Scar may be in exile and when he learns Simba is born from messengers presumably the hyenas he decides to plan his revenge on being King just like Ursula wanting to be ruler of the oceans in The Little Mermaid. We will probably get a backstory on why he got exiled. He will probably hire the hyenas to tell Simba about the place Mufusa forbid’s Simba to go to and Simba goes there with Nala only for it to be trap and Mufusa saves them and Scar comes up with the stampede idea as another plan. After thinking both Simba and Mufusa dead Scar will suprise the Pride by returning to Pride Rock and takes the thorne himself thus getting his revenge instead of him simply being second in line to be King which occurred in the original film and broadway musical. So in other words Scar may be Zira and Ursula rolled into one.
While still Mufusa’s younger brother Scar will possibly have a different role to the 1994 film. Like Zira Scar may be in exile and when he learns Simba is born from messengers presumably the hyenas he decides to plan his revenge on being King just like Ursula wanting to be ruler of the oceans in The Little Mermaid. We will probably get a backstory on why he got exiled. He will probably hire the hyenas to tell Simba about the place Mufusa forbid’s Simba to go to and Simba goes there with Nala only for it to be trap and Mufusa saves them and Scar comes up with the stampede idea as another plan. After thinking both Simba and Mufusa dead Scar will suprise the Pride by returning to Pride Rock and takes the thorne himself thus getting his revenge instead of him simply being second in line to be King which occurred in the original film and broadway musical. So in other words Scar may be Zira and Ursula rolled into one.
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[[WMG: Mufusa could die early]]
As in the original film and broadway musical Mufusa will likely be killed by Scar. However while Mufusa dies around the halfway period Mufusa will most likely be killed less than a quarter of a way into the film. It would make sense if this was the case because the film will be longer than the original version and we will see more of Simba in exile with Timon and Pumbaa than he did in the 1994 adaptation. Mufusa will obviously teach Simba the Circle of Life and save him and Nala from the hyenas but his role will probably be demoted slightly as the film will focus more on Simba.
[[WMG: Zazu and Rafiki will be extras]]
Even though Rafiki will show off baby Simba to the animals of the pride lands and show Simba the ghost of his father and Zazu serves as a majordomo to Mufusa both will likely be demoted to extras. If that is the case Rafiki will probably only show up at the start of the film, showing Simba Mufusa’s ghost and showing off Simba and Nsla’s cub unlike the 1994 version where he made cameos in his tree and during the climax. Likewise Zazu will be less of a comedy relief character and to make the film darker Simba and Nala as cubs will encounter the hyenas alone and Zazu will less likely be forced to entertain Scar while in a rib cage.
As in the original film and broadway musical Mufusa will likely be killed by Scar. However while Mufusa dies around the halfway period Mufusa will most likely be killed less than a quarter of a way into the film. It would make sense if this was the case because the film will be longer than the original version and we will see more of Simba in exile with Timon and Pumbaa than he did in the 1994 adaptation. Mufusa will obviously teach Simba the Circle of Life and save him and Nala from the hyenas but his role will probably be demoted slightly as the film will focus more on Simba.
[[WMG: Zazu and Rafiki will be extras]]
Even though Rafiki will show off baby Simba to the animals of the pride lands and show Simba the ghost of his father and Zazu serves as a majordomo to Mufusa both will likely be demoted to extras. If that is the case Rafiki will probably only show up at the start of the film, showing Simba Mufusa’s ghost and showing off Simba and Nsla’s cub unlike the 1994 version where he made cameos in his tree and during the climax. Likewise Zazu will be less of a comedy relief character and to make the film darker Simba and Nala as cubs will encounter the hyenas alone and Zazu will less likely be forced to entertain Scar while in a rib cage.
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[[WMG: Be Prepared will be put back in the film, but as a surprise
With what IMDB was saying about Be Prepared being put back in, Disney might want to hold back on confirming this until the film comes out. Though it could be revealed before the film comes if the soundtrack comes out first.
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[[WMG: We will get a scene of Scar outright challenging Mufasa for the throne]]
Or at least mention that he did once in the past. Maybe that's how he got his scar and eventual murderous hatred of his brother?
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Aside from giving the film another adaptational twist, it makes more biogeographical sense since meerkats are a southwestern African species with a range extending no further north than the Namib Desert in Angola, while banded mongooses have a much wider range that covers the Serengeti region where the story takes place. Also, unlike meerkats, banded mongooses actually have a [[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXW_1i1pA0w real-life symbiotic relationship with warthogs]].
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Aside from giving the film another adaptational twist, it makes more biogeographical sense since meerkats are a southwestern African species with a range extending no further north than the Namib Desert in Angola, while banded mongooses have a much wider range that covers the Serengeti region where the story takes place. Also, unlike meerkats, banded mongooses actually have a [[ https://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXW_1i1pA0w real-life symbiotic relationship with warthogs]].
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[[WMG: Timon will species-swapped into a banded mongoose]]
Aside from giving the film another adaptational twist, it makes more biogeographical sense since meerkats are a southwestern African species with a range extending no further north than the Namib Desert in Angola, while banded mongooses have a much wider range that covers the Serengeti region where the story takes place. Also, unlike meerkats, banded mongooses actually have a [[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXW_1i1pA0w real-life symbiotic relationship with warthogs]].
Aside from giving the film another adaptational twist, it makes more biogeographical sense since meerkats are a southwestern African species with a range extending no further north than the Namib Desert in Angola, while banded mongooses have a much wider range that covers the Serengeti region where the story takes place. Also, unlike meerkats, banded mongooses actually have a [[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXW_1i1pA0w real-life symbiotic relationship with warthogs]].
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* {{Jossed}} Disney did not describe it as live-action, only stating it would follow the "technologically groundbreaking" approach of The Jungle Book.
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With Eric Andre in the cast, the [[FountainOfMemes memes]] write themselves. At the end of the movie, once the hyenas turn on Scar and devour him, there'll be a “Who Killed Hannibal?” version of this scene with Azisi's jaws still wet with blood and saying “Who ate Scar?” Or... just before they pounce him, we get “We'll Be Right Back.”
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With Eric Andre in the cast, the [[FountainOfMemes memes]] write themselves. At the end of the movie, once the hyenas turn on Scar and devour him, there'll be a “Who Killed Hannibal?” version of this scene with Azisi's Azizi's jaws still wet with blood and saying “Who ate Scar?” Or... just before they pounce him, we get “We'll Be Right Back.”
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{{WMG: The film will be DarkerAndEdger and PG-13]]
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This would distinguish it from the original.
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[[WMG: Scar will look drastically different.]]
Per [[https://thedisinsider.com/2018/03/19/exclusive-scar-expected-to-have-a-different-look-in-the-lion-king-remake/ a purported "leak" from March 2018]], Scar might be portrayed as a white lion in order to noticeably differentiate him from the other lions. If true, this could also tie into the above point as a means of characterization; white lions are considered sacred in some South African cultures, so perhaps this reverence will be grafted onto the other lions of the pride or some other animals (the hyenas, perhaps?), playing into Scar's ideas of wanting power as he's destined for it.
Per [[https://thedisinsider.com/2018/03/19/exclusive-scar-expected-to-have-a-different-look-in-the-lion-king-remake/ a purported "leak" from March 2018]], Scar might be portrayed as a white lion in order to noticeably differentiate him from the other lions. If true, this could also tie into the above point as a means of characterization; white lions are considered sacred in some South African cultures, so perhaps this reverence will be grafted onto the other lions of the pride or some other animals (the hyenas, perhaps?), playing into Scar's ideas of wanting power as he's destined for it.
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[[WMG: There will be memes combining this and Series/TheEricAndreShow]]
With Eric Andre in the cast, the [[FountainOfMemes memes]] write themselves. At the end of the movie, once the hyenas turn on Scar and devour him, there'll be a “Who Killed Hannibal?” version of this scene with Azisi's jaws still wet with blood and saying “Who ate Scar?” Or... just before they pounce him, we get “We'll Be Right Back.”
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For example, John Debney will likely do the music, while incorporating Hans Zimmer's themes from the original. Some of Favreau's actors and friends may also show up. Jossed as Zimmer will return to compose the film.
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For example, John Debney will likely do the music, while incorporating Hans Zimmer's themes from the original. Some of Favreau's actors and friends may also show up. Jossed as up.
* Jossed; Hans Zimmer will return to compose the film.
* Jossed; Hans Zimmer will return to compose the film.
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As Doug Walker pointed out, the film suffers a BrokenAesop since the pride doesn't move to stand with Simba even after he confesses to Mufasa's murder, making it clear it was an accident. The remake will potentially address this in a few different ways:
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** Most of the lionesses will be loyal to Scar, in a downplayed version of the Outsiders from ''Simba's Pride'' and more of a MyCountryRightOrWrong version - until he confesses. Hence why they don't back up Simba even after he confesses it was an accident.
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** Most of the lionesses will be loyal to Scar, in a downplayed version of the Outsiders from ''Simba's Pride'' and more of a MyCountryRightOrWrong version - -- until he confesses. Hence why they don't back up Simba even after he confesses it was an accident.
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[[WMG:Azizi will have AdaptationalIntelligence compared to Ed.]]
If Azizi only laughs like Ed did in the first movie, surely they wouldn't have gone to the trouble of hiring a new actor for him? Maybe Azizi/Ed will talk this time, although he may still be less intelligent than the other two.
If Azizi only laughs like Ed did in the first movie, surely they wouldn't have gone to the trouble of hiring a new actor for him? Maybe Azizi/Ed will talk this time, although he may still be less intelligent than the other two.
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* {{Jossed}} Disney did not describe it as live-action, only stating it would follow the "technologically groundbreaking" approach of The Jungle Book.
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[[WMG: Humans will appear, and have a minor role.]]
Just to justify Disney calling this a live-action film.
Just to justify Disney calling this a live-action film.
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*** {{Jossed}} on at least two of these: "I Just Can't Wait To Be King" is going to be in the movie, but "Be Prepared" isn't.
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* "The Madness of King Scar": Partly in case the below "Shadowland" gets included and partly to make up for "Be Prepared" being absent by giving Scar a proper VillainSong.
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** Jossed, as John Kani will play Rafiki.
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** This doesn't rule out the potential for "Be Prepared" to still appear in the film as an ''orchestral'' version, much like how "Trust In Me" still appeared in ''The Jungle Book'' even though the sung version only appeared in the credits and the soundtrack.
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* Other male lions will appear as part of the Pride to debunk the old theory about Scar being Nala’s father (or it will otherwise be explicitly spelled out Nala’s father was neither Mufasa or Scar).
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Cutting blatant complaining.
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[[WMG: The Movie will be awful]]
Hey, it's WMG. The fact that they're pulling out "Be Prepared", most likely for its Nazi symbolism, and all the VAs are deliberately of the same ethnicity as their characters - it's VOICES - just makes me feel like it's going to have PC-ness rubbed in our faces at the cost of humour and depth. Also, the homosexual suggestions of a dad/dad parentage between Timon and Pumbaa are going to be emphasised to show how 'revolutionary' Disney is, but of course it's risky to use Nazi symbolism even to show how evil and manipulative Hitler was. It's going to have an extra hour of footage that doesn't actually add anything, like the magical book in the LA Beauty and the Beast.
I just get bad vibes from this movie, and it doesn't help that Disney calls it a 'live action' movie when it's just photorealistic CGI.
** Not sure that WMG is a place for tropers to vent all their conservative complaints about the film.
Hey, it's WMG. The fact that they're pulling out "Be Prepared", most likely for its Nazi symbolism, and all the VAs are deliberately of the same ethnicity as their characters - it's VOICES - just makes me feel like it's going to have PC-ness rubbed in our faces at the cost of humour and depth. Also, the homosexual suggestions of a dad/dad parentage between Timon and Pumbaa are going to be emphasised to show how 'revolutionary' Disney is, but of course it's risky to use Nazi symbolism even to show how evil and manipulative Hitler was. It's going to have an extra hour of footage that doesn't actually add anything, like the magical book in the LA Beauty and the Beast.
I just get bad vibes from this movie, and it doesn't help that Disney calls it a 'live action' movie when it's just photorealistic CGI.
** Not sure that WMG is a place for tropers to vent all their conservative complaints about the film.
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With an increased amount of deaths and [[AdaptationalAngstUpgrade increased angst]] for several characters.
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characters. The FamilyUnfriendlyViolence could also be dialed up, potentially averting BloodlessCarnage in the case of Mufasa's body.
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** Not sure that WMG is a place for tropers to vent all their conservative complaints about the film.
[[WMG: Some things from the original film that may be explained by the remake]]
* The film will explicitly portray how the Pride Lands fell into famine and ruin due to the massive clan of alpha predators that took up residence in the kingdom after Scar took over. The explanation from ''The Lion Guard'', that past lions and hyenas settled on two different territories to prevent overhunting, will be included.
[[WMG: The "Simba Confronts Scar" scene will play out differently in the remake.]]
As Doug Walker pointed out, the film suffers a BrokenAesop since the pride doesn't move to stand with Simba even after he confesses to Mufasa's murder, making it clear it was an accident. The remake will potentially address this in a few different ways:
** Sarabi and Nala still standing with Simba, maybe joined by other lionesses, but they get forcibly silenced by the overwhelming hyena horde present. When Scar confesses, they are able to overthrow the hyenas and commence the battle.
** Most of the lionesses will be loyal to Scar, in a downplayed version of the Outsiders from ''Simba's Pride'' and more of a MyCountryRightOrWrong version - until he confesses. Hence why they don't back up Simba even after he confesses it was an accident.
** The battle scene itself will be expanded, similar to ''Beauty and the Beast'' and ''The Jungle Book'', especially since the latter showed off Favreau doesn't shy away from gritty action. Scar could also get more action, maybe being challenged by the heroes (Pumbaa in particular, since warthogs are known to be capable of killing lions) until Simba is able to narrowly defeat him.
[[WMG: Incorporation of Broadway songs]]
* "The Lioness Hunt": It plays out more or less the same as the musical, as it depicts the lionesses of the pride hunting prey. The song is headlined by Beyonce, and otherwise looks like epic footage of real lionesses hunting prey that you'd see in a documentary, just set to "Lioness Hunt".
* "Rafiki Mourns": We'll get an AdaptationExpansion in which the Pride Lands gather to hold a funeral service for their fallen king. Mufasa's body is taken to be buried at Pride Rock as the song is used. Then, with the whole kingdom present, Scar takes control.
* "Shadowland": To give Beyonce [[TheCastShowoff a solo number]].
* "Endless Night": Same for "Shadowland", but for Donald Glover.
[[WMG: Some things from the original film that may be explained by the remake]]
* The film will explicitly portray how the Pride Lands fell into famine and ruin due to the massive clan of alpha predators that took up residence in the kingdom after Scar took over. The explanation from ''The Lion Guard'', that past lions and hyenas settled on two different territories to prevent overhunting, will be included.
[[WMG: The "Simba Confronts Scar" scene will play out differently in the remake.]]
As Doug Walker pointed out, the film suffers a BrokenAesop since the pride doesn't move to stand with Simba even after he confesses to Mufasa's murder, making it clear it was an accident. The remake will potentially address this in a few different ways:
** Sarabi and Nala still standing with Simba, maybe joined by other lionesses, but they get forcibly silenced by the overwhelming hyena horde present. When Scar confesses, they are able to overthrow the hyenas and commence the battle.
** Most of the lionesses will be loyal to Scar, in a downplayed version of the Outsiders from ''Simba's Pride'' and more of a MyCountryRightOrWrong version - until he confesses. Hence why they don't back up Simba even after he confesses it was an accident.
** The battle scene itself will be expanded, similar to ''Beauty and the Beast'' and ''The Jungle Book'', especially since the latter showed off Favreau doesn't shy away from gritty action. Scar could also get more action, maybe being challenged by the heroes (Pumbaa in particular, since warthogs are known to be capable of killing lions) until Simba is able to narrowly defeat him.
[[WMG: Incorporation of Broadway songs]]
* "The Lioness Hunt": It plays out more or less the same as the musical, as it depicts the lionesses of the pride hunting prey. The song is headlined by Beyonce, and otherwise looks like epic footage of real lionesses hunting prey that you'd see in a documentary, just set to "Lioness Hunt".
* "Rafiki Mourns": We'll get an AdaptationExpansion in which the Pride Lands gather to hold a funeral service for their fallen king. Mufasa's body is taken to be buried at Pride Rock as the song is used. Then, with the whole kingdom present, Scar takes control.
* "Shadowland": To give Beyonce [[TheCastShowoff a solo number]].
* "Endless Night": Same for "Shadowland", but for Donald Glover.
