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TheMinishCap comes first, as the Wind Tribe still lives in the sky there. They may descend to Hyrule and abandon the skies in SkywardSword, which is why you only see Oocca there in TwilightPrincess.

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TheMinishCap comes first, as the Wind Tribe still lives in the sky there.at that point. They may descend to Hyrule and abandon the skies in SkywardSword, which is why you only see Oocca there in TwilightPrincess.



The Oracle games could happen at the end of either timeline, as Ganon is dead and the Triforces reunited in AOL. In TwilightPrincess Ganon is also dead and his Triforce has abandoned him, while Link and Zelda have the other two, so it's logical to think the pieces were brought back together. I place them at the end of the Child Timeline because the Master Sword makes an appearance. In the Adult Timeline, this would conflict with ALTTP's line about the Master Sword sleeping forever. Plus, it is possible that the original Twinrova could still be alive as of the end of TwilightPrincess.

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The Oracle games could happen at the end of either timeline, as Ganon is dead and the Triforces reunited in AOL. In TwilightPrincess Ganon is also dead and his Triforce has abandoned him, while Link and Zelda have the other two, so it's logical to think the pieces were brought back together. I place them at the end of the Child Timeline because the Master Sword makes an appearance. In the Adult Timeline, this would conflict with ALTTP's ALinkToThePast's line about the Master Sword sleeping forever. Plus, it is possible that the original Twinrova could still be alive as of the end of TwilightPrincess.TwilightPrincess.

An alternate placement of TheMinishCap could be between SpiritTracks and AlinkToThePast, in the event that SkywardSword takes a different direction than predicted or one takes the "Triumph Forks" title in the library to actually be significant. Regardless, the Light Force cannot be the Triforce of Wisdom in either case, since Zelda does not have it prior to OcarinaOfTime or after TheWindWaker.
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FourSwordsAdventures features a reincarnated Ganondorf who receives the previous Ganon's abilities upon gaining the latter's Trident, which functioned as a SoulJar. This Ganon is sealed into the Four Sword, which he breaks out of in LOZ.

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FourSwordsAdventures features a reincarnated reincarnation of Ganondorf who receives the previous Ganon's abilities upon gaining the latter's Trident, which functioned as a SoulJar. This Ganon is sealed into the Four Sword, which he breaks out of in LOZ.
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[[WMG:CaptainBob's Theory]]
TMC->SS->OOT->(split)
Child: MM->TP->OOX
Adult: TWW->PH->ST->ALTTP->LA->FS->FSA->LOZ->AOL

TheMinishCap comes first, as the Wind Tribe still lives in the sky there. They may descend to Hyrule and abandon the skies in SkywardSword, which is why you only see Oocca there in TwilightPrincess.

Everything between SkywardSword and SpiritTracks is canon.

After ALinkToThePast, in which Ganon is KilledOffForReal, Link gives the Triforce to the Royal Family of Hyrule, and the King hides the Triforce of Courage in the Great Temple while he and Zelda keep Power and Wisdom respectively. Link's journey to look for other threats to Hyrule brings him to the islands of Old Hyrule where he learns of Vaati and the Four Sword. After waiting until the gateway to the Elemental Sanctuary opens again, FourSwords happens.

FourSwordsAdventures features a reincarnated Ganondorf who receives the previous Ganon's abilities upon gaining the latter's Trident, which functioned as a SoulJar. This Ganon is sealed into the Four Sword, which he breaks out of in LOZ.

The Oracle games could happen at the end of either timeline, as Ganon is dead and the Triforces reunited in AOL. In TwilightPrincess Ganon is also dead and his Triforce has abandoned him, while Link and Zelda have the other two, so it's logical to think the pieces were brought back together. I place them at the end of the Child Timeline because the Master Sword makes an appearance. In the Adult Timeline, this would conflict with ALTTP's line about the Master Sword sleeping forever. Plus, it is possible that the original Twinrova could still be alive as of the end of TwilightPrincess.
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[[WMG:{{Sk8torchic}}'s Theory]]
SS->OoT->SPLIT
Adult:WW->PH->ST->MC->FS->FSA->LoZ->AoL
Child:MM->TP->LttP->OoX->LA

SS, OoT-ST, and OoT-TP are all confirmed canon. FSA has Ganon revived for LoZ. MC after ST? Because the Triforce has been forgotten in WW, and the "Light Force" in Zelda is likely the Triforce of Wisdom. Knowledge of the Triforce is revived by Ganon himself between FSA and LoZ, and the Great War in LttP takes place between OoT and TP. [[PlotHole Am I missing anything?]]
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[[WMG: Vodkainferno666 theory]]
MC - FSA - SS- OoT - [Timeline Split]
Minish Cap is the first game for it never references the Triforce, for the people of Hyrule does not know of its power. Then Four Swords Adventure is Ganons [[StartofDarkness]]. Ocarina of Time is where the Time line split.
Now, at the Timeline split we have two possible choices, Link doesn't go to the future and Ganon does takes over the world, and then we have the "Good" future where Link does go into the future and stops Ganon.
Ganon stays supreme : LoZ - AoL - OoX - LA - WW - PH - ST
Legend of Zelda is where Hyrules population first drops. Due to part Hardware Limitation, we only see a small fraction of the population because most of the people have been killed because of widespread monsters. Ganon is banished, and Adventures of Link and the Oracle games is Link thwarting Ganon from being resurrected during a Population boom. Between the next Generation of links, Ganon is brought back, and starts the initial great flood. Links Awakening takes place during this time frame, unaware to Link of the destiny he was supposed to have, he ultimately dies out at sea, which leads to the Wind Waker Saga.
Ganon is defeated : MM - TP - LttP
This Time line is shorter because Ganon is not around as much to cause as much trouble. Being sufficiently weakened, Twilight Princess is his next appearance after being freed, he ultimately makes the Twilight Realm corrupted in a sense, and then after a long Time Skip, Hyrule is prosperus, the Twilight people have gone extinct in there homeland, and is now what we called the Dark World.

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Minish Cap is the first in the timeline. Next is Ocarina of Time, which of course splits the timeline into the GoodFuture and the BadFuture. As always, the GoodFuture leads to Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess, and the BadFuture goes to Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass, and Spirit Tracks. The difference, however, is that before the apocalyptic events preceding Wind Waker, Oracle of Seasons happens. In Oracle of Ages, the past takes place sometime before the split, and the present is either just before or just after Majora's Mask, while Link is travelling the world and visiting places like Termina. Ages creates a third timeline, where ForWantOfANail, Ocarina of Time never happened.

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Minish Cap is the first in the timeline. Next is Ocarina of Time, which of course splits the timeline into the GoodFuture Good Future and the BadFuture. As always, the GoodFuture Good Future leads to Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess, and the BadFuture goes to Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass, and Spirit Tracks. The difference, however, is that before the apocalyptic events preceding Wind Waker, Oracle of Seasons happens. In Oracle of Ages, the past takes place sometime before the split, and the present is either just before or just after Majora's Mask, while Link is travelling the world and visiting places like Termina. Ages creates a third timeline, where ForWantOfANail, Ocarina of Time Minish Cap never happened. happened.

Because Future!Link prevented his first adventure, Present!Link is a stranger to Hyrule, allowing [=LoZ=] and Zelda II to take place. Also, because they were sick of this whole cosmic KudzuPlot, the Goddesses cursed all three Links to have NintendoHard stealth levels in a desperate attempt to keep him from completing his various adventures.
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[[WMG: Megabyter5's theory]]
Minish Cap is the first in the timeline. Next is Ocarina of Time, which of course splits the timeline into the GoodFuture and the BadFuture. As always, the GoodFuture leads to Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess, and the BadFuture goes to Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass, and Spirit Tracks. The difference, however, is that before the apocalyptic events preceding Wind Waker, Oracle of Seasons happens. In Oracle of Ages, the past takes place sometime before the split, and the present is either just before or just after Majora's Mask, while Link is travelling the world and visiting places like Termina. Ages creates a third timeline, where ForWantOfANail, Ocarina of Time never happened.

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Lady Norbert here, sprucing up my theory a little


** While it must be acknowledged that every game shows Hyrule looking somewhat different (and this is at least partly due to advancements in game technology), the two original games have the only existing continuity. The Overworld from [=LoZ=] can be found in the map of [=AoL=], which can't be said of the other games. Additionally, [=AoL=] has North Castle -- not Hyrule Castle -- as well as the six palaces of the crystals, two deserts instead of one, and of course the Great Palace. Yes, most of its towns share names with the sages from [=OoT=], but that's just further confusion, because why don't those towns exist in other games too? Only Kakariko Village and Hyrule Castle Town are consistent, and neither of those appear in the NES games. Also, the Hyrule of the NES games seems to border an ocean -- all other games indicate that Hyrule is landlocked.

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** While it must be acknowledged that every game shows Hyrule looking somewhat different (and this is at least partly due to advancements in game technology), the two original games have the only existing continuity. The Overworld from [=LoZ=] can be found in the map of [=AoL=], which can't be said of the other games.
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Additionally, [=AoL=] has North Castle -- not Hyrule Castle -- as well as the six palaces of the crystals, two deserts instead of one, and of course the Great Palace. Palace.
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Yes, most of its towns share names with the sages from [=OoT=], but that's just further confusion, because why don't those towns exist in other games too? Only Kakariko Village and Hyrule Castle Town are consistent, and neither of those appear in the NES games. games.
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Also, the Hyrule of the NES games seems to border an ocean -- all other games indicate that Hyrule is landlocked.



** The [[AllThereInTheManual manual]] for [=LoZ=] suggests that Link is not from Hyrule. This is further confirmed by the [[ComicBook/TheLegendOfZelda authorized comic books]], which say that he comes from a neighboring country called Calatia. (While the canonical veracity of supplemental material is questioned by some, Nintendo has stated that the ZeldaManga are to be taken as canonical, so there's no logical reason why this should not also apply to the comics, which came first, especially since there is no manga of the NES games.) Link not being native of Hyrule in the NES games makes sense, since the manual further implies that he doesn't know anything about Princess Zelda or the existence of the Triforce until Impa explains things to him. But the Links in all other games are explicitly Hyrule-born -- in [=LttP=] he's descended from the knights of the realm, in TP he's a lifelong resident of Ordon Village, etc.

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** The [[AllThereInTheManual manual]] for [=LoZ=] suggests that Link is not from Hyrule. This is further confirmed by the [[ComicBook/TheLegendOfZelda authorized comic books]], which say that he comes from a neighboring country called Calatia. (While the canonical veracity of supplemental material is questioned by some, Nintendo has stated that the ZeldaManga are to be taken as canonical, so there's canonical. There is therefore no logical reason why this should not also apply to the comics, which came first, especially since there is ''is'' no manga of the NES games.) )
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Link not being native of Hyrule in the NES games makes sense, since the manual further implies that he doesn't know anything about Princess Zelda or the existence of the Triforce until Impa explains things to him. But the Links in all other games are explicitly Hyrule-born -- in [=LttP=] he's descended from the knights of the realm, in TP he's a lifelong resident of Ordon Village, etc.



** The Master Sword, fabled weapon which is solely capable of defeating Ganon/dorf, does not appear in the NES games. Instead, [=LoZ=] gives us three swords -- the Wooden Sword, which does appear in other games, and the White Sword and Magical Sword, which do not. And [=AoL=] never upgrades Link's sword at all; he's still using the Magical Sword from the end of [=LoZ=], suggesting that there is no better weapon to be had. It's been suggested that the Magical Sword and the Master Sword are the same, and there is nothing to either confirm or deny this, but it doesn't really make sense. The Master Sword, as seen in pretty much every game where it appears, has a blue hilt with wings. The Magical Sword, going by its appearance in the promotional and box art for the NES games, has a gold hilt encrusted with jewels. It's hard to imagine they are the same object.

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** The Master Sword, fabled weapon which is solely capable of defeating Ganon/dorf, does not appear in the NES games. Instead, [=LoZ=] gives us three swords -- the Wooden Sword, which does appear in other games, and the White Sword and Magical Sword, which do not. And [=AoL=] never upgrades Link's sword at all; he's still using the Magical Sword from the end of [=LoZ=], suggesting that there is no better weapon to be had.
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It's been suggested that the Magical Sword and the Master Sword are the same, and there is nothing to either confirm or deny this, but it doesn't really make sense. The Master Sword, as seen in pretty much every game where it appears, has a blue hilt with wings. The Magical Sword, going by its appearance in the promotional and box art for the NES games, has a gold hilt encrusted with jewels. It's hard to imagine they are the same object.object.
** Another suggestion has been that, since [=LttP=] ends with the assertion that "the Master Sword sleeps forever," the NES games came later and the Magical Sword is indeed a different weapon. That mostly makes sense...except that if the Blade of Evil's Bane is the only weapon (alongside Light/Silver Arrows) capable of killing Ganon/dorf, then how did the Magical Sword come into existence and how is it able to do the same thing? It obviously does the job, which means that either the Master Sword is ''not'' the only blade that can defeat him (and all the games that claim it is are therefore lying), or it's not sleeping forever as [=LttP=] states and was somehow turned into the Magical Sword. The only viable third option is this theory.



** {{Heart Container}}s instead of pieces of heart.

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** Link collects {{Heart Container}}s instead of pieces of heart.



** Furthermore, the backstory of [=LoZ=] explicitly states that Ganon stole the Triforce of Power ''from Zelda'', which gels with the backstory of [=AoL=] and its implication that the Triforce parts are treasures of the royal house. Link recovers it for her, then acquires the Triforce of Courage in the next game, so that all three are physically present and in his/Zelda's possession. In all other games, Ganon is more or less the chosen bearer of the Triforce of Power.

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** Furthermore, the backstory of [=LoZ=] explicitly states that Ganon stole the Triforce of Power ''from Zelda'', which gels meshes with the backstory of [=AoL=] and its implication that the Triforce parts are treasures of the royal house. Link recovers it for her, then acquires the Triforce of Courage in the next game, so that all three are physically present and in his/Zelda's possession. In all other games, Ganon is more or less the chosen bearer of the Triforce of Power.
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** Link learns spells in [=AoL=], something he does not do in any other game. He uses magical items in other games, but does not make use of actual spells.

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** Link learns spells in [=AoL=], something he does not do in any other game. He uses magical items does use magic in other games, but does not make use of actual spells.in the same way.
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* Palace of the Four Sword- The remake of [[=ALttP=]] has a bonus dungeon you can unlock by beating FS. This is where the Four Sword is kept.

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* Palace of the Four Sword- The remake of [[=ALttP=]] has a bonus dungeon you can unlock by beating FS. This is the place where the Four Sword is kept.kept. The dark world's evil power is the reason there are bosses inside.

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* Alternate Theory- This alternate theory puts MC,FS,FSA, and OoX on both timelines, which links the split timeline back together. Here's how it works:

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* Alternate Theory- This alternate theory puts MC,FS,FSA, and OoX [[=OoX=]] on both timelines, which links the split timeline back together. Here's how it works:


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* Palace of the Four Sword- The remake of [[=ALttP=]] has a bonus dungeon you can unlock by beating FS. This is where the Four Sword is kept.

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Holy crap! I forgot Link's Awakening!


** Child Timeline= TP->FS->FSA->ALttP->LoZ->AoL->OoX

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** Child Timeline= TP->FS->FSA->ALttP->LoZ->AoL->OoXTP->FS->FSA->ALttP->LA->LoZ->AoL->OoX->



*** Alternate Theory (explained later)= MC->FS->FSA->OoX->ALttP->LoZ->AoL

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*** Alternate Theory (explained later)= MC->FS->FSA->OoX->ALttP->LoZ->AoLMC->FS->FSA->OoX->ALttP->LA->LoZ->AoL


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*** Questionable= SS



* Explaination of "1st Part"- Minish Cap lacks Ganon, which may place it prior to his first appearance in OoT. At this point the Four Sword hasn't yet been created and it's previous form is the sacred blade in Hyrule. A long period of time, in which the Master Sword is made (possibly giving Skyward Sword a place), seperates the end of MC and OoT's beginning. The new Link collects the Spiritual Stones and reaches the Master Sword's resting place. This is the point where the timeline splits.

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* Explaination of "1st Part"- Minish Cap lacks Ganon, which may place it prior to his first appearance in OoT. At this point the Four Sword hasn't yet been created and it's previous form is the sacred blade in Hyrule. A long period of time, in which the Master Sword is made (possibly giving Skyward Sword a place), made, seperates the end of MC and OoT's beginning. The new Link collects the Spiritual Stones and reaches the Master Sword's resting place. This is the point where the timeline splits.


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*** Alternate Theory (explained later)= MC->FS->FSA->OoX->ALttP->LoZ->AoL



* Blue Pig Ganon: This is an important part of the theory. Somewhere between OoT and LoZ Ganon suddenly becomes a blue pig creature.

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* Blue Pig Ganon: This is an important part of the theory. Four Swords Games- Somewhere between OoT and LoZ Ganon suddenly becomes a blue pig creature.creature. FSA explains this as Ganon stealing a magical trident that turned him into a demon. Ganon's weapon of choice in both LoZ and ALttP is a trident, possibly proving that FSA (and FS, being its prequel) take place on the same timeline.
* Oracle Games- After beating one of the Oracle games, linking to the other, and beating that one you learn that this was an attempt by Twinrova to bring Ganon back to life. Since Ganon is dead in both parts of the split timeline this could work on either side. But what makes me think it's on the Child Timeline is that he's in his Blue Pig form and uses a trident.
* Alternate Theory- This alternate theory puts MC,FS,FSA, and OoX on both timelines, which links the split timeline back together. Here's how it works:
** MC-gap in time->FS->FSA- Ganon gets Trident-Oracle games.
** The Oracle Games have a specific role here. There are 2 games, Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages. The games take place on different timelines and the process of linking the games is what reunites the split timeline, which then proceeds on to ALttP.

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[[WMG: [[Tropers/Malph Malph's]] Theory]]

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** Child Timeline= TP->ALttP->LoZ->AoL

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** Child Timeline= TP->ALttP->LoZ->AoLTP->FS->FSA->ALttP->LoZ->AoL->OoX



** Questionable Placement= Four Swords games, Oracle Games, Skyward Sword



* Explaination of Adult Timeline-

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* Explaination Blue Pig Ganon: This is an important part of Adult Timeline-the theory. Somewhere between OoT and LoZ Ganon suddenly becomes a blue pig creature.
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[[WMG: [[Tropers/Malph Malph's]] Theory]]
* 1st part= MC->OoT (Timeline split)
** Child Timeline= TP->ALttP->LoZ->AoL
** Adult Timeline= WW->PH->ST
** Questionable Placement= Four Swords games, Oracle Games, Skyward Sword
*** Note: I haven't yet played PH or ST, so anything involving them is left out. My theory may change when I finally play them.
* Explaination of "1st Part"- Minish Cap lacks Ganon, which may place it prior to his first appearance in OoT. At this point the Four Sword hasn't yet been created and it's previous form is the sacred blade in Hyrule. A long period of time, in which the Master Sword is made (possibly giving Skyward Sword a place), seperates the end of MC and OoT's beginning. The new Link collects the Spiritual Stones and reaches the Master Sword's resting place. This is the point where the timeline splits.
* Explaination of Adult Timeline-
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** The [[AllThereInTheManual manual]] for [=LoZ=] suggests that Link is not from Hyrule. This is further confirmed by the [[ComicBook/TheLegendOfZelda authorized comic books]], which say that he comes from a neighboring country called Calatia. (While the canonical veracity of supplemental material is questioned by some, Nintendo has stated that the ZeldaManga are to be taken as canonical, so there's no logical reason why this should not also apply to the comics, which came first -- especially since there is no manga of the NES games.) Link not being native of Hyrule in the NES games makes sense, since the manual further implies that he doesn't know anything about Princess Zelda or the existence of the Triforce until Impa explains things to him. But the Links in all other games are explicitly Hyrule-born; in [=Lttp=] he's descended from the knights of the realm, in TP he's a lifelong resident of Ordon Village, etc.

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** The [[AllThereInTheManual manual]] for [=LoZ=] suggests that Link is not from Hyrule. This is further confirmed by the [[ComicBook/TheLegendOfZelda authorized comic books]], which say that he comes from a neighboring country called Calatia. (While the canonical veracity of supplemental material is questioned by some, Nintendo has stated that the ZeldaManga are to be taken as canonical, so there's no logical reason why this should not also apply to the comics, which came first -- first, especially since there is no manga of the NES games.) Link not being native of Hyrule in the NES games makes sense, since the manual further implies that he doesn't know anything about Princess Zelda or the existence of the Triforce until Impa explains things to him. But the Links in all other games are explicitly Hyrule-born; Hyrule-born -- in [=Lttp=] [=LttP=] he's descended from the knights of the realm, in TP he's a lifelong resident of Ordon Village, etc.
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** Only timeline banned is the Heros Journey interpretation which shall remain on the [[WMG/TheLegendOfZelda main]] WildMassGuessing page.

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** Only timeline banned is the Heros Hero's Journey interpretation which shall remain on the [[WMG/TheLegendOfZelda main]] WildMassGuessing page.



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[=This timeline leads to many geographies blending together. Sounds like the weird geography in FSA. The Goddesses also took advantage to fuse the Four Sword and the Master Sword together to be in use whichever depending on the foe which explains how the Four Sword can take on Ganon. It also doubles as the Imprisoning War. Yep. ALttP takes place 30-40 years after. After that comes LA. Now remember that the two summoning flames are lit? A certain sorceress finds that little tidbit and uses it to her advantage in Labyantha. If you've been keeping track of time, OoA "past" takes place 400 years ago. Same time as Oracle of Seasons. And this fangirl loves the thought of having the Hero of Time meeting the Hero of Hyrule.(Her nickname for AttP Link) Both are Links that survived a somewhat depressing adventure along with a classic adventure. But enough fangirling. Ganon is resurrected this time around. Link defeats him but...not really. Hence the original game and AoL.=]

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[=This timeline leads to many geographies blending together. Sounds like the weird geography in FSA. The Goddesses also took advantage to fuse the Four Sword and the Master Sword together to be in use whichever depending on the foe which explains how the Four Sword can take on Ganon. It also doubles as the Imprisoning War. Yep. ALttP takes place 30-40 years after. After that comes LA. Now remember that the two summoning flames are lit? A certain sorceress finds that little tidbit and uses it to her advantage in Labyantha. If you've been keeping track of time, OoA "past" takes place 400 years ago. Same time as Oracle of Seasons. And this fangirl loves the thought of having the Hero of Time meeting the Hero of Hyrule.(Her nickname for AttP Link) Both are Links that survived a somewhat depressing adventure along with a classic adventure. But enough fangirling. Ganon is resurrected this time around. Link defeats him but...not really. Hence the original game and AoL.=]=]
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[[WMG: [[Tropers/LadyNorbert Lady Norbert]]'s theory]]

I postulate that the two original games should not be included in the timeline theory at all. They exist in an alternate version of Hyrule and do not take place in the same reality as the other games. Here are my reasons:
* Geographical differences
** While it must be acknowledged that every game shows Hyrule looking somewhat different (and this is at least partly due to advancements in game technology), the two original games have the only existing continuity. The Overworld from [=LoZ=] can be found in the map of [=AoL=], which can't be said of the other games. Additionally, [=AoL=] has North Castle -- not Hyrule Castle -- as well as the six palaces of the crystals, two deserts instead of one, and of course the Great Palace. Yes, most of its towns share names with the sages from [=OoT=], but that's just further confusion, because why don't those towns exist in other games too? Only Kakariko Village and Hyrule Castle Town are consistent, and neither of those appear in the NES games. Also, the Hyrule of the NES games seems to border an ocean -- all other games indicate that Hyrule is landlocked.
* Religious differences
** It has been stated by WordOfGod (as I myself noted on the CreepyCoolCrosses page) that the reason Hyrule in the NES games has a recurring cross motif is because they had intended for Christianity to be the dominant religion in Hyrule. From [=LttP=] onward, the crosses have been quietly removed and we've been treated to the legends of the goddesses. But meanwhile, they're still sitting there in the NES games -- on Link's shields, on every tombstone in the cemetery, on the spellbook in [=LoZ=], and in [=AoL=] as an ''actual'' cross. Since no remakes have been produced, nor are there any known plans to produce them, one must presume that technically, Christianity still exists in the Hyrule of the NES.
* Link's background
** The [[AllThereInTheManual manual]] for [=LoZ=] suggests that Link is not from Hyrule. This is further confirmed by the [[ComicBook/TheLegendOfZelda authorized comic books]], which say that he comes from a neighboring country called Calatia. (While the canonical veracity of supplemental material is questioned by some, Nintendo has stated that the ZeldaManga are to be taken as canonical, so there's no logical reason why this should not also apply to the comics, which came first -- especially since there is no manga of the NES games.) Link not being native of Hyrule in the NES games makes sense, since the manual further implies that he doesn't know anything about Princess Zelda or the existence of the Triforce until Impa explains things to him. But the Links in all other games are explicitly Hyrule-born; in [=Lttp=] he's descended from the knights of the realm, in TP he's a lifelong resident of Ordon Village, etc.
* The Master Sword -- or lack thereof
** The Master Sword, fabled weapon which is solely capable of defeating Ganon/dorf, does not appear in the NES games. Instead, [=LoZ=] gives us three swords -- the Wooden Sword, which does appear in other games, and the White Sword and Magical Sword, which do not. And [=AoL=] never upgrades Link's sword at all; he's still using the Magical Sword from the end of [=LoZ=], suggesting that there is no better weapon to be had. It's been suggested that the Magical Sword and the Master Sword are the same, and there is nothing to either confirm or deny this, but it doesn't really make sense. The Master Sword, as seen in pretty much every game where it appears, has a blue hilt with wings. The Magical Sword, going by its appearance in the promotional and box art for the NES games, has a gold hilt encrusted with jewels. It's hard to imagine they are the same object.
* Other items
** In both NES games, Link is able to acquire a magical key which will unlock any door in any dungeon/palace. In all later games, keys are only useable in the dungeon where they are found, and the more recent games add the bonus matter of the boss key. Magical keys do not exist in the Hyrule(s) of the games from [=LttP=] onward.
** They are the only games in which a raft is required to access certain dungeons/palaces.
** Link learns spells in [=AoL=], something he does not do in any other game. He uses magical items in other games, but does not make use of actual spells.
** {{Heart Container}}s instead of pieces of heart.
* The Triforce! The motherloving ''Triforce'' is different!
** In all other games where it is mentioned, the Triforce of Courage selects Link as its bearer, just as the Triforce of Wisdom selects Zelda. But in the NES games, the King of Hyrule (father of the SleepingBeauty Zelda in [=AoL=]) held all three parts, and made the personal decision to split them up; there is no Sacred Realm.
** Furthermore, the backstory of [=LoZ=] explicitly states that Ganon stole the Triforce of Power ''from Zelda'', which gels with the backstory of [=AoL=] and its implication that the Triforce parts are treasures of the royal house. Link recovers it for her, then acquires the Triforce of Courage in the next game, so that all three are physically present and in his/Zelda's possession. In all other games, Ganon is more or less the chosen bearer of the Triforce of Power.

For these reasons, and probably for others that I'm not presently thinking of, I think the NES games are in an alternate universe of their own and should be removed from the timeline theories altogether. They are a continuity unto themselves.
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***Child-----MM- TP--FSA/FS--LoZ/Aol--ALttP/OoX/LA

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***Child-----MM- TP--FSA/FS--LoZ/Aol--ALttP/OoX/LA***Child-----[=MM- TP--FSA/FS--LoZ/Aol--ALttP/OoX/LA=]



Lets see. MC predates OoT. Why? Hat? The fact you only interact with a few friendly Gorons and the Minish (whom I bet, evolve into the Kokiri) may be slightly indicative of the Hyrulean Civil War. (SS could take place before or after. The game isn't released yet!) FS also predates the war. The Split Timeline theory is canon so OoT leading into MM/TP and WW/PH/ST still holds. Next is Oracle of Seasons takes place after MM and shows OoT/MM "kid" Link taking on a new adventure and takes place shortly before Ganon's attempt at power. Twinrova appears at the end hoping to help Ganon by getting rid of [[strike:Hyrule's army]] his greatest foe. Doesn't work. However, she does succeed in lighting the Flame of Despair and the Flame of Destruction is lit. This'll be important later.

Next is timeline fixing. MM-TP, WW-PH-ST takes place as usual. But first, the Ocean King got the worlds wrong and sent Link and Tetra and the ship to Child Timelines Termina. Over the 200 years or so, the goddesses decided to have some more rule over this area and set up the Lokomos, four of which, are the old giants and three were created. Their tech has advanced enough to include trains. So the timelines are somewhat fixed without any knowledge of it! However, 100 years after TP and shortly after ST the Hyrules become aware of each other, the two Twiforces merge whole and so do the two worlds. Train system is gone. ST Zelda assumes a different name and becomes adventurer. (I can see it happening) and...there is only one Link currently.

This timeline leads to many geographies blending together. Sounds like the weird geography in FSA. The Goddesses also took advantage to fuse the Four Sword and the Master Sword together to be in use whichever depending on the foe which explains how the Four Sword can take on Ganon. It also doubles as the Imprisoning War. Yep. aLttP takes place 30-40 years after. After that comes LA. Now remember that the two summoning flames are lit? A certain sorceress finds that little tidbit and uses it to her advantage in Labyantha. If you've been keeping track of time, OoA "past" takes place 400 years ago. Same time as Oracle of Seasons. And this fangirl loves the thought of having the Hero of Time meeting the Hero of Hyrule.(Her nickname for AttP Link) Both are Links that survived a somewhat depressing adventure along with a classic adventure. But enough fangirling. Ganon is resurrected this time around. Link defeats him but...not really. Hence the original game and AoL.

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Lets [=Lets see. MC predates OoT. Why? Hat? The fact you only interact with a few friendly Gorons and the Minish (whom I bet, evolve into the Kokiri) may be slightly indicative of the Hyrulean Civil War. (SS could take place before or after. The game isn't released yet!) FS also predates the war. The Split Timeline theory is canon so OoT leading into MM/TP and WW/PH/ST still holds. Next is Oracle of Seasons takes place after MM and shows OoT/MM "kid" Link taking on a new adventure and takes place shortly before Ganon's attempt at power. Twinrova appears at the end hoping to help Ganon by getting rid of of=] [[strike:Hyrule's army]] his [=his greatest foe. Doesn't work. However, she does succeed in lighting the Flame of Despair and the Flame of Destruction is lit. This'll be important later.

Next
later.=]

[=Next
is timeline fixing. MM-TP, WW-PH-ST takes place as usual. But first, the Ocean King got the worlds wrong and sent Link and Tetra and the ship to Child Timelines Termina. Over the 200 years or so, the goddesses decided to have some more rule over this area and set up the Lokomos, four of which, are the old giants and three were created. Their tech has advanced enough to include trains. So the timelines are somewhat fixed without any knowledge of it! However, 100 years after TP and shortly after ST the Hyrules become aware of each other, the two Twiforces Triforces merge whole and so do the two worlds. Train system is gone. ST Zelda assumes a different name and becomes adventurer. (I can see it happening) and...there is only one Link currently.

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currently.=]

[=This
timeline leads to many geographies blending together. Sounds like the weird geography in FSA. The Goddesses also took advantage to fuse the Four Sword and the Master Sword together to be in use whichever depending on the foe which explains how the Four Sword can take on Ganon. It also doubles as the Imprisoning War. Yep. aLttP ALttP takes place 30-40 years after. After that comes LA. Now remember that the two summoning flames are lit? A certain sorceress finds that little tidbit and uses it to her advantage in Labyantha. If you've been keeping track of time, OoA "past" takes place 400 years ago. Same time as Oracle of Seasons. And this fangirl loves the thought of having the Hero of Time meeting the Hero of Hyrule.(Her nickname for AttP Link) Both are Links that survived a somewhat depressing adventure along with a classic adventure. But enough fangirling. Ganon is resurrected this time around. Link defeats him but...not really. Hence the original game and AoL.=]
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** SS, OoT, WW, MM, PH, TP, and ST are canon. MC pre OoT due to the presence of Skyloft in TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword sounding like MC's Wind Tribe. FSA/FS brings Ganon back to the Child Timeline after his death in TP, as does the ritual method mentioned in Aol (the game is NintendoHard its not too far a stretch to assume that the Twinrova were able to get Link's blood somewhere), ALttP seals the main Ganon plotline and OoX is connected by the beginning (the complete Triforce calling Link) and ending (Link leaving on a boat).

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** SS, OoT, [=OoT=], WW, MM, PH, TP, and ST are canon. MC pre OoT [=OoT=] due to the presence of Skyloft in TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword sounding like MC's Wind Tribe. FSA/FS brings Ganon back to the Child Timeline after his death in TP, as does the ritual method mentioned in Aol (the game is NintendoHard its not too far a stretch to assume that the Twinrova were able to get Link's blood somewhere), ALttP seals the main Ganon plotline and OoX [=OoX=] is connected by the beginning (the complete Triforce calling Link) and ending (Link leaving on a boat).
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*** SS-MC-OoT^Adult--WW/PH--ST

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*** SS-MC-OoT^Adult--WW/PH--STSS-MC-[=OoT=]^Adult--WW/PH--ST
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[[WMG: [[Tropers/RhymeBeat]]'s theory]]

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[[WMG: [[Tropers/RhymeBeat]]'s [[Tropers/RhymeBeat Rhyme Beat]]'s theory]]
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'''[[+Abreviations+]]'''
* [=LoZ=] -- [[Game/TheLegendOfZelda]]

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'''[[+Abreviations+]]'''
'''[[+Abbreviations+]]'''
* [=LoZ=] -- [[Game/TheLegendOfZelda]][[Game/TheLegendOfZelda The Legend Of Zelda]]



** SS, OoT, WW, MM, PH, TP, and ST are canon. MC pre OoT due to the presence of Skyloft in TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword sounding like MC's Wind Tribe. FSA/FS brings Ganon back to the Child Timeline after his death in TP, as does the ritual method mentioned in Aol (the game is NintendoHard its not too far a strech to assume that the Twinrova were able to get Link's blood somewhere), ALttP seals the main Ganon plotline and OoX is connected by the beggining (the complete triforce calling Link) and ending (Link leaving on a boat).
[[WMG: [[Tropers/PhoenixdaughterAM]]'s theory]]
Mine incoperates a few of my own therioes but isn't that the fun!

Lets see. MC predates OoT. Why? Hat? The fact you only interact with a few friendly Gorons and the Minish (whom I bet, evolve into the Kokoiri) may be slightly indictive of the Hyrulan Civil War. (SS could take place before or after. The game isn't released yet!) FS also predates the war. The Spilt Timeline theory is cannon so OoT leading into MM/TP and WW/PH/ST still holds. Next is Oracle of Seasons takes place after MM and shows OoT/MM "kid" Link taking on a new adventure and takes place shortly before Ganon's attempt at power. Twinova appears at the end hoping to help Ganon by getting rid of [[strike:Hyrule's army]] his greatest foe. Doesn't work. However, she does suceed in lighting the Flame of Dispear and the Flame of Destruction is lit. This'll be important later.

Next is timeline fixing. MM-TP, WW-PH-ST takes place as usual. But first, the Ocean King got the worlds wrong and sent Link and Tetra and the ship to Child Timelines Termina. Over the 200 years or so, the goddesess decided to have some more rule over this area and set up the Lokomos, four of which, are the old giants and three were created. Their tech has advanced enough to include trains. So the timelines are somewhat fixed without any knowedge of it! However, 100 years after TP and shortly after ST the Hyrules become aware of each other, the two Twiforces merge whole and so do the two worlds. Train system is gone. ST Zelda assumes a different name and becomes adventurer. (I can see it happing) and...there is only one Link currently.

This timeline leads to many geographies blending together. Sounds like the wierd geography in FSA. The Goddesses also took advantage to fuse the Four Sword and the Master Sword together to be in use whichever depending on the foe which explains how the Four Sword can take on Ganon. It also doubles as the Imprisoing War. Yep. LttP takes place 30-40 years after. After that comes LA. Now remember that the two summoing flames are lit? A certain sorceress finds that little tidbit and uses it to her advantage in Labyantha. If you've been keeping track of time, OoA "past" takes place 400 years ago. Same time as Oracle of Seasons. And this fangirl loves the thought of having the Hero of Time meeting the Hero of Hyrule.(Her nickname for AttP Link) Both are Links that survived a somewhat depressing adventure along with a classic adventure. But enough fangirling. Ganon is resurected this time around. Link defeates him but...not really. Hence the orginal game and AoL.

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** SS, OoT, WW, MM, PH, TP, and ST are canon. MC pre OoT due to the presence of Skyloft in TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword sounding like MC's Wind Tribe. FSA/FS brings Ganon back to the Child Timeline after his death in TP, as does the ritual method mentioned in Aol (the game is NintendoHard its not too far a strech stretch to assume that the Twinrova were able to get Link's blood somewhere), ALttP seals the main Ganon plotline and OoX is connected by the beggining beginning (the complete triforce Triforce calling Link) and ending (Link leaving on a boat).
[[WMG: [[Tropers/PhoenixdaughterAM]]'s [[Tropers/PhoenixdaughterAM PheonixdaughterAM]]'s theory]]
Mine incoperates incorporates a few of my own therioes theories but isn't that the fun!

Lets see. MC predates OoT. Why? Hat? The fact you only interact with a few friendly Gorons and the Minish (whom I bet, evolve into the Kokoiri) Kokiri) may be slightly indictive indicative of the Hyrulan Hyrulean Civil War. (SS could take place before or after. The game isn't released yet!) FS also predates the war. The Spilt Split Timeline theory is cannon canon so OoT leading into MM/TP and WW/PH/ST still holds. Next is Oracle of Seasons takes place after MM and shows OoT/MM "kid" Link taking on a new adventure and takes place shortly before Ganon's attempt at power. Twinova Twinrova appears at the end hoping to help Ganon by getting rid of [[strike:Hyrule's army]] his greatest foe. Doesn't work. However, she does suceed succeed in lighting the Flame of Dispear Despair and the Flame of Destruction is lit. This'll be important later.

Next is timeline fixing. MM-TP, WW-PH-ST takes place as usual. But first, the Ocean King got the worlds wrong and sent Link and Tetra and the ship to Child Timelines Termina. Over the 200 years or so, the goddesess goddesses decided to have some more rule over this area and set up the Lokomos, four of which, are the old giants and three were created. Their tech has advanced enough to include trains. So the timelines are somewhat fixed without any knowedge knowledge of it! However, 100 years after TP and shortly after ST the Hyrules become aware of each other, the two Twiforces merge whole and so do the two worlds. Train system is gone. ST Zelda assumes a different name and becomes adventurer. (I can see it happing) happening) and...there is only one Link currently.

This timeline leads to many geographies blending together. Sounds like the wierd weird geography in FSA. The Goddesses also took advantage to fuse the Four Sword and the Master Sword together to be in use whichever depending on the foe which explains how the Four Sword can take on Ganon. It also doubles as the Imprisoing Imprisoning War. Yep. LttP aLttP takes place 30-40 years after. After that comes LA. Now remember that the two summoing summoning flames are lit? A certain sorceress finds that little tidbit and uses it to her advantage in Labyantha. If you've been keeping track of time, OoA "past" takes place 400 years ago. Same time as Oracle of Seasons. And this fangirl loves the thought of having the Hero of Time meeting the Hero of Hyrule.(Her nickname for AttP Link) Both are Links that survived a somewhat depressing adventure along with a classic adventure. But enough fangirling. Ganon is resurected resurrected this time around. Link defeates defeats him but...not really. Hence the orginal original game and AoL.
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* [=AoL=]-- TheLegendOfZeldaAdventureOfLink

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*LoZ -- [[Game/TheLegendOfZelda]]
*AoL-- TheLegendOfZeldaAdventureOfLink
*ALttP-- TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast

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*LoZ *[=LoZ=] -- [[Game/TheLegendOfZelda]]
*AoL-- *[=AoL=]-- TheLegendOfZeldaAdventureOfLink
*ALttP-- *[=ALttP=]-- TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast



*OoT-- TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime

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*OoT-- *[=OoT=]-- TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime



*OoS/OoA/OoX- TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames

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*OoS/OoA/OoX- *[=OoS/OoA/OoX=]- TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames

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