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* Instead of Peter, however, it will instead follow Miles Morales. Peter will act as a mentor to him, and might even have him take up the mantle so that Peter can live a normal life with MJ (if they ever get back together).
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* Instead of Peter, however, it will instead follow Miles Morales. Peter will act as a mentor to him, and might even have him take up the mantle so that Peter can live a normal life with MJ (if they ever get back together).
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[[WMG: The MCU version of JJJ will face some sort of reckoning]]
Given that in 2023, controversial media figures like Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson lost costly defamation lawsuits or their jobs, respectively, it only seems right that this version of J. Jonah Jameson face a reckoning of sorts as well. It could either be financial or, should he fund creation of Scorpion in this film like he did in the comics, criminal.
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* Confirmed, they do their best to let the all three shine.
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* Creator/TomHardy himself, since the MCU's version of the symbiote is a remnant of his Venom
* Creator/TomHardy himself, since the MCU's version of the symbiote is a remnant of his Venom
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The conflict between Felicia Hardy and Mary Jane as Spider-Man love interests was always particularly interesting, especially since it occured around the time Peter got the black suit that turned out to be the Venom symbiote. Black Cat liked Spider-Man but just didn't understand Peter Parker, to the extent she thought Spider-Man should just be Spider-Man and stop being Peter altogether. Mary Jane, in contrast, loves Peter and (somewhat grudgingly) accepts Spider-Man as an important aspect of who Peter is. Since TheStinger already sets up a possible symbiote storyline for the next film, adding Black Cat would be perfect to highlight the conflict between Peter Parker and Spider-Man, given the alterations to his character as a consequnce of this film. Peter will need to learn to balance both of his lives, and accept the love interest who helps the balance (MJ) instead of the one that pushes him further out of balance (Black Cat).
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The conflict between Felicia Hardy and Mary Jane as Spider-Man love interests was always particularly interesting, especially since it occured occurred around the time Peter got the black suit that turned out to be the Venom symbiote. Black Cat liked Spider-Man but just didn't understand Peter Parker, to the extent she thought Spider-Man should just be Spider-Man and stop being Peter altogether. Mary Jane, in contrast, loves Peter and (somewhat grudgingly) accepts Spider-Man as an important aspect of who Peter is. Since TheStinger already sets up a possible symbiote storyline for the next film, adding Black Cat would be perfect to highlight the conflict between Peter Parker and Spider-Man, given the alterations to his character as a consequnce of this film. Peter will need to learn to balance both of his lives, and accept the love interest who helps the balance (MJ) instead of the one that pushes him further out of balance (Black Cat).
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* Well, technically, Ned ''should'' remember the Goblin. After all, the spell only made people forget about Peter Parker, but Spider-Man lives on in their memories.
[[WMG:If Peter does get the Black Suit, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMk-HPBF6Mw the infamous "SHOCKEEEEEEEEEEEERRR!!!" moment]] will be recreated.]]
After all, Shocker does exist in the MCU...
[[WMG:If Peter does get the Black Suit, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMk-HPBF6Mw the infamous "SHOCKEEEEEEEEEEEERRR!!!" moment]] will be recreated.]]
After all, Shocker does exist in the MCU...
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* Maguire Spiderman might return to a radically altered world due to time/dimensional travel if Norman, and Otto are alive as well as a reformed Sandman that would likely lead to Harry being alive as well. With a greater support network, will Maguire Peter married MJ sooner? Do they have kids? Will Maguire Spiderman have new memories of the altered timeline or will he only remember the original one? Will he remember his kid(s) first word, birthday, etc? Does he even still live at the same place? Finally, does Maguire Spiderman return to the exact moment he was taken or has equal amount of time passed for in each dimension? If the latter, MJ might be freaking out along with everyone else who knows Peter is Spiderman unless a now living Norman or Otto gives them a heads up.
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* Maguire Spiderman might return to a radically altered world due to time/dimensional travel if Norman, and Otto are alive as well as a reformed Sandman that would likely lead to Harry being alive as well. With a greater support network, will Maguire Peter married marry MJ sooner? Do they have kids? Will Maguire Spiderman have new memories of the altered timeline or will he only remember the original one? Will he remember his kid(s) first word, birthday, etc? Does he even still live at the same place? Finally, does Maguire Spiderman return to the exact moment he was taken or has equal amount of time passed for in each dimension? If the latter, MJ might be freaking out along with everyone else who knows Peter is Spiderman unless a now living Norman or Otto gives them a heads up.
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[[WMG: Possible fates for the former villains]]
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*** Alternatively, he'll meet Doctor [[spoiler:[[WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse Olivia Octavius]]]].
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* [[spoiler: Jossed. Andrew survives and Tom says in his universe.]]
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* [[spoiler: Jossed. Andrew survives and Tom says stays in his universe.]]
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* Also, if it bonds with Peter before Flash, this is how he will regain his memories of "Penis Parker".
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* The fact that Spider-Man is likely to be publicly-documented fighting off the multidimensional villains in the film (Doc Ock, Green Goblin and the like) will ironically help his public reputation, earning him HundredPercentAdorationRating and subsequently minimizing his worries.
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* The fact that Spider-Man is likely to be publicly-documented fighting off the multidimensional villains in the film (Doc Ock, Green Goblin and the like) will ironically help his public reputation, earning making him HundredPercentAdorationRating LovedByAll and subsequently minimizing his worries.
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[[WMG: The events of this film changed ''nothing'' about the Spider-Man Trilogy.]]
Norman's brief moment of clarity as he dies, and Otto's heroic sacrifice, are both the ''result'' of the events of this movie. Peter and Flint, meanwhile, return to where they came from -- some point in time ''after'' the trilogy ended. I'm just being needlessly morbid, of course: as Otto has an arc reactor in hand when he leaves the MCU, we can assume this is not the case. And nothing so morbid can be theorized about the ''Amazing'' universe: Connors and Max will be returning in human form, quite different to how they left -- though the timeline won't change ''much'' for Connors, as his ''No Way Home'' incarnation has the four-fingered hand he acquired near the end of his original appearance.
Norman's brief moment of clarity as he dies, and Otto's heroic sacrifice, are both the ''result'' of the events of this movie. Peter and Flint, meanwhile, return to where they came from -- some point in time ''after'' the trilogy ended. I'm just being needlessly morbid, of course: as Otto has an arc reactor in hand when he leaves the MCU, we can assume this is not the case. And nothing so morbid can be theorized about the ''Amazing'' universe: Connors and Max will be returning in human form, quite different to how they left -- though the timeline won't change ''much'' for Connors, as his ''No Way Home'' incarnation has the four-fingered hand he acquired near the end of his original appearance.
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[[spoiler:All the battle on the Statue of Liberty did (aside from just fill it with sand, which can be drained out of it) was break off the Captain America shield that most New Yorkers disapproved of adding. They lauded Spider-Man as a hero for destroying the unwanted addition to Lady Liberty, because [[SeriousBusiness they hated it that much]].]]
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[[spoiler:All the battle on the Statue of Liberty Art/StatueOfLiberty did (aside from just fill it with sand, which can be drained out of it) was break off the Captain America shield that most New Yorkers disapproved of adding. They lauded Spider-Man as a hero for destroying the unwanted addition to Lady Liberty, because [[SeriousBusiness they hated it that much]].]]
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*** Seems unlikely. ''No Way Home'' established that Michelle is the MCU's version of MJ, with Michelle's last name being revealed as "Jones-Watson".
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** Except, it will turn out to be an [[spoiler: Existed MCU Version]] that was hiding from the authorities.
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[[WMG:A mind-wiped Ned will find Norman's discarded Green Goblin mask...and it will cause him to become The Hobgoblin]]
Ned will come across the remains of Norman's old Green Goblin mask which Ned will have little to no memory of meeting Norman Osborn (because of the spell). And unfortunately, the pieces of the mask wil infect Ned with Norman's altered DNA. Much like Norman, Ned begins to lose his sanity. He feels compelled to reconstructs the mask. And he ultimately becomes the successor to Green Goblin, the Hobgoblin.
Ned will come across the remains of Norman's old Green Goblin mask which Ned will have little to no memory of meeting Norman Osborn (because of the spell). And unfortunately, the pieces of the mask wil infect Ned with Norman's altered DNA. Much like Norman, Ned begins to lose his sanity. He feels compelled to reconstructs the mask. And he ultimately becomes the successor to Green Goblin, the Hobgoblin.
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While a lot of fans fully expect it to be what the next story revolves around, it's totally believable that they won't utilize the symbiote. At least not yet. While the post or mid credits scenes often do set up what'll happen in the sequel, there are others that still have yet to amount to much. A notable (and relevant) example of this is the one from ''Homecoming'' that showed that Mac Gargan is gunning for Spider-Man. With this in mind, it wouldn't be shocking if creative team of the next film won't feel obligated to follow up on the symbiote if they have a different story in mind where it wouldn't necessarily fit in.
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While a lot of fans fully expect it to be what the next story revolves around, it's totally believable that they won't utilize the symbiote. At least not yet. While the post or mid credits scenes often do set up what'll happen in the sequel, there are others that still have yet to amount to much. A notable (and relevant) example of this is the one from ''Homecoming'' that showed that Mac Gargan is gunning for Spider-Man. With this in mind, it wouldn't be shocking if creative team of the next film won't feel obligated to follow up on the symbiote if they have a different story in mind where it wouldn't necessarily fit in. Plus, that build up anticipation for when they ''do'' follow up on it.
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[[WMG: The symbiote won't return in the next film]]
While a lot of fans fully expect it to be what the next story revolves around, it's totally believable that they won't utilize the symbiote. At least not yet. While the post or mid credits scenes often do set up what'll happen in the sequel, there are others that still have yet to amount to much. A notable (and relevant) example of this is the one from ''Homecoming'' that showed that Mac Gargan is gunning for Spider-Man. With this in mind, it wouldn't be shocking if creative team of the next film won't feel obligated to follow up on the symbiote if they have a different story in mind where it wouldn't necessarily fit in.
While a lot of fans fully expect it to be what the next story revolves around, it's totally believable that they won't utilize the symbiote. At least not yet. While the post or mid credits scenes often do set up what'll happen in the sequel, there are others that still have yet to amount to much. A notable (and relevant) example of this is the one from ''Homecoming'' that showed that Mac Gargan is gunning for Spider-Man. With this in mind, it wouldn't be shocking if creative team of the next film won't feel obligated to follow up on the symbiote if they have a different story in mind where it wouldn't necessarily fit in.
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[[WMG: Spider-Man 4 will center around a Black Cat and Symbiote arc]]
The conflict between Felicia Hardy and Mary Jane as Spider-Man love interests was always particularly interesting, especially since it occured around the time Peter got the black suit that turned out to be the Venom symbiote. Black Cat liked Spider-Man but just didn't understand Peter Parker, to the extent she thought Spider-Man should just be Spider-Man and stop being Peter altogether. Mary Jane, in contrast, loves Peter and (somewhat grudgingly) accepts Spider-Man as an important aspect of who Peter is. Since TheStinger already sets up a possible symbiote storyline for the next film, adding Black Cat would be perfect to highlight the conflict between Peter Parker and Spider-Man, given the alterations to his character as a consequnce of this film. Peter will need to learn to balance both of his lives, and accept the love interest who helps the balance (MJ) instead of the one that pushes him further out of balance (Black Cat).
The conflict between Felicia Hardy and Mary Jane as Spider-Man love interests was always particularly interesting, especially since it occured around the time Peter got the black suit that turned out to be the Venom symbiote. Black Cat liked Spider-Man but just didn't understand Peter Parker, to the extent she thought Spider-Man should just be Spider-Man and stop being Peter altogether. Mary Jane, in contrast, loves Peter and (somewhat grudgingly) accepts Spider-Man as an important aspect of who Peter is. Since TheStinger already sets up a possible symbiote storyline for the next film, adding Black Cat would be perfect to highlight the conflict between Peter Parker and Spider-Man, given the alterations to his character as a consequnce of this film. Peter will need to learn to balance both of his lives, and accept the love interest who helps the balance (MJ) instead of the one that pushes him further out of balance (Black Cat).
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The spell didn't make everyone forget - it simply shifted Peter to a different universe which is VERY SIMILAR to the one he left, but with everyone not knowing who spiderman is. Events took place before he arrived which make this universe match the one he left, but without anyone knowing who Spiderman is. Unknown to anyone, the Spidey in this universe is dead and our Peter took his place without missing a beat.
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The spell didn't make everyone forget - it simply shifted Peter to a different universe which is VERY SIMILAR to the one he left, but with everyone not knowing who spiderman is. Events took place before he arrived which make this universe match the one he left, but without anyone knowing who Spiderman Spider-Man is. Unknown to anyone, the Spidey in this universe is dead and our Peter took his place without missing a beat.
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* His vlogging might also end up being a ChekhovsGun when he finds that he accidentally recorded the evidence against Mysterio and use it to expose him and clear Peter's name. This will also prove Happy saying that his vlogging helped Spiderman to be true.
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* Sandman is in almost no danger of dying. However unless he keeps his head down he'll almost certainly certainly be arrested by Tobey's Spiderman. This could lead to him repeatedly escaping and becoming an AffablyEvil villain for No Way Home's Peter-2. Or he might be in a different universe where Spider-Man doesn't know how to easily defeat him.
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* Sandman is in almost no danger of dying. However unless he keeps his head down he'll almost certainly certainly be arrested by Tobey's Spiderman.Spider-Man. This could lead to him repeatedly escaping and becoming an AffablyEvil villain for No Way Home's Peter-2. Or he might be in a different universe where Spider-Man doesn't know how to easily defeat him.
