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"Joephisto" is the [[FanNickname/ComicBooks nickname]] for [[Creator/JoeQuesada Quesada]], as he used Mephisto as an [[AuthorAvatar author avatar]] in [[ComicBook/OneMoreDay his own]] [[SelfInsertFic self-insert fic]], in order to fulfill his own childhood dream to undo the marriage now that [[AscendedFanboy the fanboy has ascended.]] And ''this'', in a story for [[TropeNamer the character behind]] ''[[ComesGreatResponsibility the responsibility thing]]?!?'' '''[[PrecisionFStrike BULLSHIT!]]''' * whud*

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"Joephisto" is the [[FanNickname/ComicBooks nickname]] for [[Creator/JoeQuesada Quesada]], as he used Mephisto as an [[AuthorAvatar author avatar]] in [[ComicBook/OneMoreDay his own]] [[SelfInsertFic self-insert fic]], in order to fulfill his own childhood dream to undo the marriage now that [[AscendedFanboy the fanboy has ascended.]] And ''this'', in a story for [[TropeNamer the character behind]] ''[[ComesGreatResponsibility ''[[WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility the responsibility thing]]?!?'' '''[[PrecisionFStrike BULLSHIT!]]''' * whud*



--> '''Ghost Rider:''' Whatever happened to "[[ComesGreatResponsibility with great power comes great responsibility]]," Parker? Did you decide to throw that moral lesson away the moment you decided to go through with that deal? You know what I see when I look at you just now? I don't see a noble soul who I could say I was ever proud to have allied with in the past--I see a selfish little punk who'd rather flee the consequences of his choices instead of facing them as a man with a backbone ought to. By your actions, you've not only condemned [[ComicBook/SpiderGirl an innocent soul]] to non-existence, but you've also condemned several existing souls to be under Mephisto's thumb, to manipulate as he should see fit ''just'' inside the letter of his word. Your Aunt May. Your friend Harry Osborn. Mary Jane. Yourself. Need I continue?

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--> '''Ghost Rider:''' Whatever happened to "[[ComesGreatResponsibility "[[WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility with great power comes great responsibility]]," Parker? Did you decide to throw that moral lesson away the moment you decided to go through with that deal? You know what I see when I look at you just now? I don't see a noble soul who I could say I was ever proud to have allied with in the past--I see a selfish little punk who'd rather flee the consequences of his choices instead of facing them as a man with a backbone ought to. By your actions, you've not only condemned [[ComicBook/SpiderGirl an innocent soul]] to non-existence, but you've also condemned several existing souls to be under Mephisto's thumb, to manipulate as he should see fit ''just'' inside the letter of his word. Your Aunt May. Your friend Harry Osborn. Mary Jane. Yourself. Need I continue?
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* {{Jossed}} by ''Film/SpiderManNoWayHome''. Tobey and Andrew's respective Peters are indeed from separate universes.
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* Rubbish. Norman Osborn taking over H.A.M.M.E.R. is actually a giant plan of Doctor Doom's to utterly destroy Reed Richards, and Osborn is cooperating with him for the chance to screw with Spidey. Doom is using the same time-hopping doodad he used to fight Richards way back when Sharon Ventura was the She-Thing, and has been popping into the past and screwing up the timeline to leave gaping holes in the memories of everyone inside the Marvel universe, which causes them to make decisions and hold opinions that seem totally illogical to ''us''. Doom thinks that if he can make everyone look dumb enough, it will cause Reed to have a psychological meltdown in the manner of [[TheSimpsons Frank Grimes]]. Because come ''on'' people, I find your lack of faith in the human race disturbing. The people in this universe may be morons, but they're not so criminally, colossally moronic that they would actually support ''Osborn'' while having the same memories of him that we do! That would just be ''stupid!''

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* Rubbish. Norman Osborn taking over H.A.M.M.E.R. is actually a giant plan of Doctor Doom's to utterly destroy Reed Richards, and Osborn is cooperating with him for the chance to screw with Spidey. Doom is using the same time-hopping doodad he used to fight Richards way back when Sharon Ventura was the She-Thing, and has been popping into the past and screwing up the timeline to leave gaping holes in the memories of everyone inside the Marvel universe, which causes them to make decisions and hold opinions that seem totally illogical to ''us''. Doom thinks that if he can make everyone look dumb enough, it will cause Reed to have a psychological meltdown in the manner of [[TheSimpsons [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Frank Grimes]]. Because come ''on'' people, I find your lack of faith in the human race disturbing. The people in this universe may be morons, but they're not so criminally, colossally moronic that they would actually support ''Osborn'' while having the same memories of him that we do! That would just be ''stupid!''
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*This is heavily implied to be the case in ''Amazing Spider-Man'' Vol 5 #74; Mephisto's impetus to cause OMD to happen was a vision of his invasion of New York being defeated by a version of May.
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* Or "Mephisto" is some other demon who took his place. In [[Main/IronMan Legacy of Doom]], "Mephisto" had no problem selling out Morgan le Fay, which broke a deal the real Mephisto had made with her earlier.

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* Or "Mephisto" is some other demon who took his place. In [[Main/IronMan [[ComicBook/IronMan Legacy of Doom]], "Mephisto" had no problem selling out Morgan le Fay, which broke a deal the real Mephisto had made with her earlier.
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So, my idea is, Richard Parker isn't Uncle Ben's younger brother - he's his son. Now, why did Richard lie? I'm not sure, probably because of his secret agent work. But, since he and his wife died when Peter was a baby, Ben and May kept pretending they were Peter's uncle and aunt...who never had children of their own...and see, tp be in their seventies despite having a teenage nephew. Now, nobody else knows that, not even the Chameleon, which is why the Clone Saga era robot duplicate of Richard still pretended May was his sister-in-law.

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So, my idea is, Richard Parker isn't Uncle Ben's younger brother - he's his son. Now, why did Richard lie? I'm not sure, probably because of his secret agent work. But, since he and his wife died when Peter was a baby, Ben and May kept pretending they were Peter's uncle and aunt...who never had children of their own...and see, tp seem to be in their seventies despite having a teenage nephew. Now, nobody else knows that, not even the Chameleon, which is why the Clone Saga era robot duplicate of Richard still pretended May was his sister-in-law.
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[[WMG: Flash Thompson never really hated Peter Parker]]
Reading the early Creator/SteveDitko issues, and comparing them to the stories in the seventies, it seems kinda odd that Peter and Flash are often hanging out together, even outside school. Flash often insults Peter, sure, but that's probably because he's a JerkWithAHeartOfGold - he mocks Peter because he seems theirs as a VitriolicBestBuds relationship, but he's always defends Peter and respects his academic skills. Flash also loves Spider-Man, which is supposed to be ironic, but, when you think about it, shows he was a good guy deep down, even back then.
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* Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man Vol. 2 #1 reveals Aunt May has Cancer
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[[WMG: Aunt May is actually ''grandma'' May]]
So, my idea is, Richard Parker isn't Uncle Ben's younger brother - he's his son. Now, why did Richard lie? I'm not sure, probably because of his secret agent work. But, since he and his wife died when Peter was a baby, Ben and May kept pretending they were Peter's uncle and aunt...who never had children of their own...and see, tp be in their seventies despite having a teenage nephew. Now, nobody else knows that, not even the Chameleon, which is why the Clone Saga era robot duplicate of Richard still pretended May was his sister-in-law.
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Deadpool and Squirrel Girl both know that they're in a comic (Though the latter is contractually obliged to not acknowledge it outside of recaps) and they are both EnsembleDarkhorse fan favorites. It stands to reason that they'd have a grasp of continuity and know when retcons and such happen. Deadpool has been known to have fits of heroism, and might see fit to want to do this one for the fans. Squirrel Girl, being the upbeat, Silver-Age heroine she is would definitely want to bring Spidey back to his moral roots and undo the BrokenAesop. Unfortunately, she can't acknowledge in-continuity that she knows about it. This is where Deadpool comes in. The way I see it, he's wandering through Central Park ranting about how stupid One More Day was, wondering how he can possibly best Mephisto. TippyToe happens upon him, and drags him towards Squirrel Girl. After an awesome but pointless fight, Deadpool convinces her with TippyToe's help that together they can get Mephisto to undo his massive misdeed. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Deadpool and Squirrel Girl then go to whatever hell dimension Mephisto lurks in, kick the crap out of him and force him to undo the events of One More Day.]]

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Deadpool and Squirrel Girl both know that they're in a comic (Though the latter is contractually obliged to not acknowledge it outside of recaps) and they are both EnsembleDarkhorse fan favorites. It stands to reason that they'd have a grasp of continuity and know when retcons and such happen. Deadpool has been known to have fits of heroism, and might see fit to want to do this one for the fans. Squirrel Girl, being the upbeat, Silver-Age heroine she is would definitely want to bring Spidey back to his moral roots and undo the BrokenAesop. Unfortunately, she can't acknowledge in-continuity that she knows about it. This is where Deadpool comes in. The way I see it, he's wandering through Central Park ranting about how stupid One More Day was, wondering how he can possibly best Mephisto. TippyToe happens upon him, and drags him towards Squirrel Girl. After an awesome but pointless fight, Deadpool convinces her with TippyToe's help that together they can get Mephisto to undo his massive misdeed. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Deadpool and Squirrel Girl then go to whatever hell dimension Mephisto lurks in, kick the crap out of him and force him to undo the events of One More Day.]]
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[[WMG: SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} and ComicBook/SquirrelGirl are going to team-up, beat up Mephisto and undo "One More Day".]]

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[[WMG: The One More Day retcon will involve Spider-Man and {{Deadpool}} invading Hell.]]

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[[WMG: The One More Day retcon will involve Spider-Man and {{Deadpool}} ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} invading Hell.]]



*** Oh, and to add to this, as has been mentioned above and elsewhere on this wiki, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}, ComicBook/SquirrelGirl and [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Loki]] should get in on the action as well, since all of them [[BreakingTheFourthWall know they're comic book characters]]. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen And since Loki]] [[ChekhovsGun owes Spidey a favor]] from an earlier comic adventure...

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*** Oh, and to add to this, as has been mentioned above and elsewhere on this wiki, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}, ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}, ComicBook/SquirrelGirl and [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Loki]] should get in on the action as well, since all of them [[BreakingTheFourthWall know they're comic book characters]]. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen And since Loki]] [[ChekhovsGun owes Spidey a favor]] from an earlier comic adventure...
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** Relatively new comic book reader here, but to add to the "Carlie is a demon theory," LostGirl has given me the idea that Carlie could be revealed as a succubus, either created or sired by Mephisto. Mephisto altered the memories of Carlie and her family, making them believe that they were her parents and vice versa, and as a succubus, it would explain the otherwise unfathomable praise people give her. Additionally, to add to the ultimate battle with Mephisto, other participants could be Doctor Strange, Daredevil, and Silver Surfer. The former two have fought Mephisto before, and Mephisto debuted in an issue of Silver Surfer. This will result the New Avengers and the Defenders to get involved in the battle, because Spidey will need all the help he can get, and Red She-Hulk could substitute for Hulk to maintain a possible reference to the lineup of the Fantastic Four with Spider-Man and Ghost Rider. Since Magma of the New Mutants recently went on a date with Mephisto, she should show up, presumably to either persuade Mephisto to restore the marriage or to turn Magma and Mephisto against each other. Because this will result in the undoing of One More Day and will bring the Brand New Day era to a close, I suggest that the story be called "The End of Days."

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** Relatively new comic book reader here, but to add to the "Carlie is a demon theory," LostGirl ''Series/LostGirl'' has given me the idea that Carlie could be revealed as a succubus, either created or sired by Mephisto. Mephisto altered the memories of Carlie and her family, making them believe that they were her parents and vice versa, and as a succubus, it would explain the otherwise unfathomable praise people give her. Additionally, to add to the ultimate battle with Mephisto, other participants could be Doctor Strange, Daredevil, and Silver Surfer. The former two have fought Mephisto before, and Mephisto debuted in an issue of Silver Surfer. This will result the New Avengers and the Defenders to get involved in the battle, because Spidey will need all the help he can get, and Red She-Hulk could substitute for Hulk to maintain a possible reference to the lineup of the Fantastic Four with Spider-Man and Ghost Rider. Since Magma of the New Mutants recently went on a date with Mephisto, she should show up, presumably to either persuade Mephisto to restore the marriage or to turn Magma and Mephisto against each other. Because this will result in the undoing of One More Day and will bring the Brand New Day era to a close, I suggest that the story be called "The End of Days."



--> '''Mephisto:''' [[TemptingFate You think you can defeat me, child]]?
--> '''Squirrel Girl:''' Hey, I've beaten Dr. Doom and Thanos before. And I'm a cute little girl who uses squirrels to fight.
--> ''(elsewhere, Dr. Doom and Thanos get individual chills as they suspect that some unpleasant person somewhere has mentioned their names)''
--> '''Mephisto:''' ''(seeing the above reactions through his ability to [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall recline on the fourth wall]])'' [[OhCrap Oh]], '''[[OhCrap NO]]'''.
--> ''(curb-stomping with cute squirrels ensues)''

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--> '''Mephisto:''' --->'''Mephisto:''' [[TemptingFate You think you can defeat me, child]]?
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child]]?\\
'''Squirrel Girl:''' Hey, I've beaten Dr. Doom and Thanos before. And I'm a cute little girl who uses squirrels to fight.
--> ''(elsewhere,
fight.\\
''[elsewhere,
Dr. Doom and Thanos get individual chills as they suspect that some unpleasant person somewhere has mentioned their names)''
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names]''\\
'''Mephisto:''' ''(seeing ''[seeing the above reactions through his ability to [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall recline on the fourth wall]])'' wall]]]'' [[OhCrap Oh]], '''[[OhCrap NO]]'''.
--> ''(curb-stomping
NO]]'''.\\
''[curb-stomping
with cute squirrels ensues)''
ensues]''
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* May Parker was EvilAllAlong! She keeps getting herself in danger to become a LivingEmotionalCrutch to Peter Parker, keeping her to himself. She’s somewhat GenreSavvy or just willing to take a risk in knowing [[DeathIsCheap she’ll somehow survive]]. She knew about ComicBook/OneMoreDay, using it eliminate May. [[Yandere That way, Spider-Man shall be all to herself.]]

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* May Parker was EvilAllAlong! She keeps getting herself in danger to become a LivingEmotionalCrutch to Peter Parker, keeping her to himself. She’s somewhat GenreSavvy savvy or just willing to take a risk in knowing [[DeathIsCheap she’ll somehow survive]]. She knew about ComicBook/OneMoreDay, using it eliminate May. [[Yandere That way, Spider-Man shall be all to herself.]]
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[[WMG: Joe Quesada is Mephisto]]
It's obvious, really: Mephisto successfully entered our reality, assumed the identity of Joe Quesada (whether by KillAndReplace or by inventing him from scratch), and achieved his ultimate goal of gaining control over the entire Marvel Multiverse. What appears to be extreme OpinionMyopia and questionable management is in fact the work of a malevolent demon RewritingReality to derail beloved characters and alienate their fans. Spiderman is a particular chew toy because of his IncorruptiblePurePureness.
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** Played with in Spider-Ham, where Peter Porker used to be an ordinary household spider, until May Porker got herself irradiated an bit him in blind rage, thus turning him into a Ham with spider powers... So yeah.

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** Played with in Spider-Ham, ComicBook/SpiderHam, where Peter Porker used to be an ordinary household spider, until May Porker got herself irradiated an bit him in blind rage, thus turning him into a Ham with spider powers... So yeah.
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Deadpool and Squirrel Girl both know that they're in a comic (Though the latter is contractually obliged to not acknowledge it outside of recaps) and they are both EnsembleDarkhorse fan favorites. It stands to reason that they'd have a grasp of continuity and know when retcons and such happen. Deadpool has been known to have fits of heroism, and might see fit to want to do this one for the fans. Squirrel Girl, being the upbeat, silver-age heroin she is would definitely want to bring Spidey back to his moral roots and undo the BrokenAesop. Unfortunately, she can't acknowledge in-continuity that she knows about it. This is where Deadpool comes in. The way I see it, he's wandering through Central Park ranting about how stupid One More Day was, wondering how he can possibly best Mephisto. TippyToe happens upon him, and drags him towards Squirrel Girl. After an awesome but pointless fight, Deadpool convinces her with TippyToe's help that together they can get Mephisto to undo his massive misdeed. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Deadpool and Squirrel Girl then go to whatever hell dimension Mephisto lurks in, kick the crap out of him and force him to undo the events of One More Day.]]

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Deadpool and Squirrel Girl both know that they're in a comic (Though the latter is contractually obliged to not acknowledge it outside of recaps) and they are both EnsembleDarkhorse fan favorites. It stands to reason that they'd have a grasp of continuity and know when retcons and such happen. Deadpool has been known to have fits of heroism, and might see fit to want to do this one for the fans. Squirrel Girl, being the upbeat, silver-age heroin Silver-Age heroine she is would definitely want to bring Spidey back to his moral roots and undo the BrokenAesop. Unfortunately, she can't acknowledge in-continuity that she knows about it. This is where Deadpool comes in. The way I see it, he's wandering through Central Park ranting about how stupid One More Day was, wondering how he can possibly best Mephisto. TippyToe happens upon him, and drags him towards Squirrel Girl. After an awesome but pointless fight, Deadpool convinces her with TippyToe's help that together they can get Mephisto to undo his massive misdeed. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Deadpool and Squirrel Girl then go to whatever hell dimension Mephisto lurks in, kick the crap out of him and force him to undo the events of One More Day.]]



No, think about it. Maybe the only reason that One More Day happened was because "Morlun", who is in fact an analogue for some Spider-Man villain (say, the Shocker) kidnapped Mary Jane. This caused her to lose the baby, and that put massive strain on the Parker marriage. All of this was probably a lot of stress put upon Peter's mind, so he invents this entire backstory to justify it to himself. He doesn't know it because he's repressed it. Nobody else knows it because it's in his mind. Aunt May was fine, really having been healed by Dr Strange or somebody. Harry wasn't really dead. Nobody talks about Peter's divorce because they don't want to upset Peter.

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No, think about it. Maybe the only reason that One More Day happened was because "Morlun", who is in fact an analogue for some Spider-Man villain (say, the Shocker) kidnapped Mary Jane. This caused her to lose the baby, and that put massive strain on the Parker marriage. All of this was probably a lot of stress put upon Peter's mind, so he invents this entire backstory to justify it to himself. He doesn't know it because he's repressed it. Nobody else knows it because it's in his mind. Aunt May was fine, really having been healed by Dr Dr. Strange or somebody. Harry wasn't really dead. Nobody talks about Peter's divorce because they don't want to upset Peter.



[[WMG:''One More Day'' is a mass hypnosis complements of Mysterio.]]

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[[WMG:''One More Day'' is a mass hypnosis complements compliments of Mysterio.]]



* Easy. Harry Osborn himself made a deal with Mephisto for an "ideal life" with money, social status, and friends. Yes, his dad is a major pain in the ass, but when Harry died, he thought Norman was dead also, so had no reason to factor that in.

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* Easy. Harry Osborn himself made a deal with Mephisto for an "ideal life" with money, social status, and friends. Yes, his dad is a major pain in the ass, but when Harry died, he thought Norman was dead also, so he had no reason to factor that in.



In the very first issues, that thanks to ComicBookTime now take place around the late nineties, Flash Thompson and Liz Allen are very mocking towards Peter Parker, but it doesn't really imply that they're enemies - they hang out together not only in school but in the bowling alley and malt shop, and Flash even mockingly says he'll defend Peter if something happens in issue three. Peter, having so much going on in his life, misinterprets Flash's friendly jokes and bursts out at him and threatens him. He also doesn't show up for his date with Liz, so, in the eyes of popularity-obsessed teenagers Flash and Liz, Peter wants war. It isn't about issue eight that Flash and Peter become actual "enemies" in his eyes.

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In the very first issues, that thanks to ComicBookTime now take place around the late nineties, Flash Thompson and Liz Allen Allan are very mocking towards Peter Parker, but it doesn't really imply that they're enemies - they hang out together not only in school but in the bowling alley and malt shop, and Flash even mockingly says he'll defend Peter if something happens in issue three. Peter, having so much going on in his life, misinterprets Flash's friendly jokes and bursts out at him and threatens him. He also doesn't show up for his date with Liz, so, in the eyes of popularity-obsessed teenagers Flash and Liz, Peter wants war. It isn't about issue eight that Flash and Peter become actual "enemies" in his eyes.



* It would made more sense if Mephisto used his power to make them useless, and mess with Peter so it wouldn't raise any brows. I mean c'mon, bullet wound/poisoning/old age can't be cured in Marvel Universe? What?
** Dr. Strange is a Time lord, weren't there Spider-man visiting Dr. Strange while Peter was recovering from his search? Why would Mephisto make that?

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* It would made make more sense if Mephisto used his power to make them useless, and mess with Peter so it wouldn't raise any brows. I mean c'mon, bullet wound/poisoning/old age can't be cured in Marvel Universe? What?
** Dr. Strange is a Time lord, Lord, and weren't there Spider-man Spider-Men visiting Dr. Strange while Peter was recovering from his search? Why would Mephisto make that?



* Okay, tiger, since you're so smart, answer this for me: If Peter Parker is Spider-man, who's holding the camera in all those Bugle pictures of the web-head that credit "photo by Peter Parker"?

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* Okay, tiger, since you're so smart, answer this for me: If Peter Parker is Spider-man, Spider-Man, who's holding the camera in all those Bugle pictures of the web-head that credit "photo by Peter Parker"?



* Guys, guys, why do you all think Spider-man is a nobody? Ever thought maybe he's a celebrity? An Asian Celebrity? [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQBum2s-LYk Like Jet Li?]]

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* Guys, guys, why do you all think Spider-man Spider-Man is a nobody? Ever thought maybe he's a celebrity? An Asian Celebrity? celebrity? [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQBum2s-LYk Like Jet Li?]]



* That idea has so much potential for sequel/retconing OMD/just generally fucking with Petes life (Mephy showing up, undoing the mind whammy on spidey, and introducing him to his little girl, all grown up. Who is a bloodthirsty spider-themed demon from growing up in hell. )

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* That idea has so much potential for sequel/retconing OMD/just generally fucking with Petes Pete's life (Mephy showing up, undoing the mind whammy on spidey, and introducing him to his little girl, all grown up. Who is a bloodthirsty spider-themed demon from growing up in hell. )



** Norman makes some kind of deal with Red Skull in the 2009 Cap Returns series. Hard to not see this ending up as one of his bigger regrets. Still, even AxeCrazy Harry never would--I think.

[[WMG: Peter said no to Mephisto.]]
But it didn't stopped Mephisto from changing his memories to what we seen in One More Day. If One More Day will be even undone, Mephisto's XanatosGambit will restore Spidey's "memories". Peter will go on never-ending WhatHaveIDone because of something he never did. No matter if Brand New Day will be undone or not, Mephisto is a winner here.
* Except if Peter DID said NO, that means that Mary Jane didn't try to Re-hook up with him because she is a #$%&#! Or that she really wanted to rest from being married. Or that she doesn't actually Knows.

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** Norman makes some kind of deal with the Red Skull in the 2009 Cap Returns series. Hard to not see this ending up as one of his bigger regrets. Still, even AxeCrazy Harry never would--I think.

[[WMG: Peter [[WMG:Peter said no to Mephisto.]]
But it didn't stopped stop Mephisto from changing his memories to what we seen see in One More Day. If One More Day will ever be even undone, Mephisto's XanatosGambit will restore Spidey's "memories". Peter will go on never-ending WhatHaveIDone because of something he never did. No matter if Brand New Day will be undone or not, Mephisto is a winner here.
* Except if Peter DID said say NO, that means that Mary Jane didn't try to Re-hook re-hook up with him because she is a #$%&#! bitch! Or that she really wanted to rest from being married. Or that she doesn't actually Knows.
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[[WMG: In the Films, Peter Parker is so poor because...]]
Of his organic web shooters, he uses most of his money buying extra food to replace the protein he loses uses from using those things.

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Of his organic web shooters, he shooters. He uses most of his money buying extra food to replace the protein he loses uses from using those things.



* Because he doesn't work for Iron man, but he may if he will join the Avengers.

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* Because he doesn't work for Iron man, Man, but he may if he will join the Avengers.



After his defeat (it's a superhero film, of ''course'' that's not a spoiler), [[spoiler: the Goblin's grenade left the symbiote shriveled and dehydrated instead of incinerated. Eddie Brock splattered, and the symbiote plus his blood plus a new host will be]] Carnage (or more likely [[XtremeKoolLetterz K]]arnage) in the fifth film. The now-AntiHero Venom may return as one of the bits that got disconnected during the fight before [[spoiler: the goblin grenade flashbanged Blonde [[Series/That70sShow EricForeman]] and the majority of the symbiote]], or the Venom movie that's in the works could be an alternate continuity depending on who has which rights for what.

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After his defeat (it's a superhero film, of ''course'' that's not a spoiler), [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Goblin's grenade left the symbiote shriveled and dehydrated instead of incinerated. Eddie Brock splattered, and the symbiote plus his blood plus a new host will be]] Carnage (or more likely [[XtremeKoolLetterz K]]arnage) in the fifth film. The now-AntiHero Venom may return as one of the bits that got disconnected during the fight before [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the goblin grenade flashbanged Blonde Blond [[Series/That70sShow EricForeman]] and the majority of the symbiote]], or the Venom movie that's in the works could be an alternate continuity depending on who has which rights for what.



[[WMG: Toby [=MacGuire=]'s back injury [[DullSurprise severely hampered]] his acting.]]
We've seen Toby act in other movies, he's usually not that bad. But his acting in Spider-Man 2 and 3, especially when he's supposed to be having chemistry with Mary Jane, is just painful. No doubt the pain killers from his back injury are to blame. Or YMMV and he was awesome.

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[[WMG: Toby [=MacGuire=]'s Tobey [=Maguire=]'s back injury [[DullSurprise severely hampered]] his acting.]]
We've seen Toby Tobey act in other movies, he's usually not that bad. But his acting in Spider-Man 2 and 3, especially when he's supposed to be having chemistry with Mary Jane, is just painful. No doubt the pain killers from his back injury are to blame. Or YMMV and he was awesome.



* The spider ATE PETER DUDE THAT IS FUCKED UP. but creative and does make sense.
** Played with in Spider-Ham, where Peter Porker used to be an ordinary household spider, until May Porker got herself irradiated an bit him in blind rage, thus turning him into a Ham with Spider-powers... So yeah.

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* The spider ATE PETER DUDE PETER! DUDE, THAT IS FUCKED UP. UP but creative and does make sense.
** Played with in Spider-Ham, where Peter Porker used to be an ordinary household spider, until May Porker got herself irradiated an bit him in blind rage, thus turning him into a Ham with Spider-powers...spider powers... So yeah.



We've seen what they did with Bucky. Either her death will go the way of his death (RetCon), she is resurrected, someone does a TimeTravel thing to the past, she is cloned, or she will be reincarnated. HEAVY odds on reincarnation, BTW.
* Or RetCon. Everything else about Spidey's past was reversed with ComicBook/OneMoreDay, why not Gwen's death as well?

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We've seen what they did with Bucky. Either her death will go the way of his death (RetCon), (Retcon), she is resurrected, someone does a TimeTravel thing to the past, she is cloned, or she will be reincarnated. HEAVY odds on reincarnation, BTW.
* Or RetCon.Retcon. Everything else about Spidey's past was reversed with ComicBook/OneMoreDay, why not Gwen's death as well?



Spider-man is being rebooted right when Marvel sets up the films leading to avengers, coincidence? I think not.
* WordOfGod is that, for legal reasons, Spidey can't be in the film Avengers. They're in separate continuities.

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Spider-man Spider-Man is being rebooted right when Marvel sets up the films leading to avengers, the Avengers, coincidence? I think not.
* WordOfGod is that, for legal reasons, Spidey can't be in the film Avengers.the Avengers movie. They're in separate continuities.



A thinking man, Doctor Octopus, (Karl Marx) devises a new way, a “better” way of generating power (goods). This technology (system) will be ready when it is ready; this new way (communism) is a plan for when the next opportunity arises to put it into action (some revolution that could be coming after 1848). It requires very careful monitoring to control this great power (government control over the means of production must be balanced). The tests go awry. The stipulated limit on waiting for a revolution is lost when the control chip shorts out (the model of agitation in Russia); now there is an urgency to implement this model that becomes a serious obsession (widespread revolutionary attitudes).

This obsession eventually gets hold of the fuel (property) and the apparatus (government). There is no respect for the effect this will have on the environment, cities, and human lives; it is an system that must be implemented at all costs, including the lives of innocent millions. Just as the initial tests went, however, there is no way to control the system (the markets) sufficiently and still bring about the desired results (prosperity for all). Having a change of heart, there is a call for outside help, so in the end, a Red-White-and-Blue American hero sinks the whole operation. For now. In the next one, he’ll be having to face an internal conflict.

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A thinking man, Doctor Octopus, (Karl Marx) devises a new way, a “better” way of generating power (goods). This technology (system) will be ready when it is ready; this new way (communism) (Communism) is a plan for when the next opportunity arises to put it into action (some revolution that could be coming after 1848). It requires very careful monitoring to control this great power (government control over the means of production must be balanced). The tests go awry. The stipulated limit on waiting for a revolution is lost when the control chip shorts out (the model of agitation in Russia); now there is an urgency to implement this model that becomes a serious obsession (widespread revolutionary attitudes).

This obsession eventually gets hold of the fuel (property) and the apparatus (government). There is no respect for the effect this will have on the environment, cities, and human lives; it is an a system that must be implemented at all costs, including the lives of innocent millions. Just as the initial tests went, however, there is no way to control the system (the markets) sufficiently and still bring about the desired results (prosperity for all). Having a change of heart, there is a call for outside help, so in the end, a Red-White-and-Blue American hero sinks the whole operation. For now. In the next one, he’ll be having to face an internal conflict.



Without such a grievous mistake, he never learns to actually keep himself in check. So instead of just being a thrillseeker when he gets the black suit, he becomes an all around jerk ass. We get to see what happens when he is forced to become a hero, but not that his powers are dangerous if not kept in check.

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Without such a grievous mistake, he never learns to actually keep himself in check. So instead of just being a thrillseeker when he gets the black suit, he becomes an all around jerk ass.{{Jerkass}}. We get to see what happens when he is forced to become a hero, but not that his powers are dangerous if not kept in check.



* I wonder what will Deadpool say about it? "So that BND-thingy made [[{{Creator/AndrewGarfield}} Andrew]] out of [[{{Creator/TobeyMaguire}} Tobey]]?! Why?"
* Then WHAT THE FUCK DID WesternAnimation/{{STATIC SHOCK}} GIVE UP! (Word of god states that Static is a young Spider-Man With electrical powers, so I do consider him to be DC's Spider-Man)

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* I wonder what will Deadpool say about it? it. "So that BND-thingy made [[{{Creator/AndrewGarfield}} Andrew]] out of [[{{Creator/TobeyMaguire}} Tobey]]?! Why?"
* Then WHAT THE FUCK DID WesternAnimation/{{STATIC SHOCK}} GIVE UP! (Word of god UP? (WordOfGod states that Static is a young Spider-Man With with electrical powers, so I do consider him to be DC's Spider-Man)



He's just been bitten by a ''radioactive fucking spider''! That doesn't give you super powers, it gives you a bloodstream full of radioactive venom! Peter has been lying comatose in the hospital for God knows how long while the combination of radiation and venom gnaws away at his brain.
* Fortunately, he's a comic book fan, and his imagination is running wild.

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He's just been bitten by a ''radioactive fucking spider''! That doesn't give you super powers, superpowers, it gives you a bloodstream full of radioactive venom! Peter has been lying comatose in the hospital for God knows how long while the combination of radiation and venom gnaws away at his brain.
* ** Fortunately, he's a comic book fan, and his imagination is running wild.



* So what - Spider-man and MJ has Two daughters? What?!

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* So what - Spider-man Spider-Man and MJ has Two have two daughters? What?!






[[WMG: In the next movie, Spider-man will have web-shooters.]]

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[[WMG: In the next movie, Spider-man Spider-Man will have web-shooters.]]



** Also works for Thunderbolt Ross. Both middle aged men, both in high authority, and both want to kill one of the worlds most beloved superheroes.

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** Also works for Thunderbolt Ross. Both middle aged men, both in high authority, and both want to kill one of the worlds world's most beloved superheroes.



Whoever they are has rigged up hidden speakers and a screen in the mirror. In the first movie, they take advantage of Norman Osbourn's already strained mind by creating a state-of-the-art 3D image of him on the mirror, and pretending to be his alter ego. In the second and third movies, they again use the tech to make Harry think his father is talking to him from beyond the grave. Whoever it is, and whatever they want, it's likely they want any heroes in New York out of the picture, either dead or switching sides.
Also, it's possible that Osbourn found out about this deception off-camera, and wanted in on it. Perhaps he survived the impaling, like in the comics, got together with this puppeteer, and acted as himself in Harry's visions in an attempt to make him 'a proper son'. In this case, his last words (Don't tell Harry), could have been said because he knew that Harry would blame Spider-Man and thus be angry at Peter to begin with. He and the illusionist then threatened his butler under pain of death not to reveal the truth, explaining why he kept it a secret for so long.

[[WMG: There will be a meta joke in the new Spider-Man Reboot...]]
We will see the radioactive spider coming down from the ceiling, seemingly headed to an oblivious [[Series/{{Community}} Donald Glover ]] . Just as it looks like he will get bit Andrew Garfield will politely ask him to move to one side so he can take a photo. And the rest is history ...

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Whoever they are has are, they have rigged up hidden speakers and a screen in the mirror. In the first movie, they take advantage of Norman Osbourn's Osborn's already strained mind by creating a state-of-the-art 3D image of him on the mirror, and pretending to be his alter ego. In the second and third movies, they again use the tech to make Harry think his father is talking to him from beyond the grave. Whoever it is, and whatever they want, it's likely they want any heroes in New York out of the picture, either dead or switching sides.
Also, it's possible that Osbourn Osborn found out about this deception off-camera, and wanted in on it. Perhaps he survived the impaling, like in the comics, got together with this puppeteer, and acted as himself in Harry's visions in an attempt to make him 'a proper son'. In this case, his last words (Don't tell Harry), could have been said because he knew that Harry would blame Spider-Man and thus be angry at Peter to begin with. He and the illusionist then threatened his butler under pain of death not to reveal the truth, explaining why he kept it a secret for so long.

[[WMG: There will be a meta joke in the new Spider-Man Reboot...reboot...]]
We will see the radioactive spider coming down from the ceiling, seemingly headed to an oblivious [[Series/{{Community}} Donald Glover ]] . Just as it looks like he will get bit bit, Andrew Garfield will politely ask him to move to one side so he can take a photo. And the rest is history ...



The massive CharacterDerailment and complete destruction of years of canon will be too much for the comic to bear and rapidly dwindling sales will force Quesada out the door and a new editor in, but it will be too late to save the ailing Spidey, which will be shut down and it is revealed that ''ComicBook/SpiderGirl'' was in fact the real continuity all along.

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The massive CharacterDerailment and complete destruction of years of canon will be too much for the comic comics to bear and rapidly dwindling sales will force Quesada out the door and a new editor in, but it will be too late to save the ailing Spidey, which will be shut down and it is revealed that ''ComicBook/SpiderGirl'' was in fact the real continuity all along.



* Neutral: Ben's revival will jab OMD, Ben questioning Peter on how things would have been if he had made a similar deal.

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* Neutral: Ben's revival will jab OMD, Ben questioning OMD and he will question Peter on how things would have been if he had made a similar deal.



...It's just not active. Its been said by at least one source that all super humans are technically mutants who were born with an inactive X-Gene that was activated by an outside stimulus, which is why she doesn't have powers yet. My evidence for this is the fact that, despite being human, Mary Jane has one characteristic shared by almost all female supers: [[MostCommonSuperPower A Giant rack.]] As Another source says, female Supers have big boobs as a side effect of their powers. So, while she doesn't have powers, she has both the side effects that come with it. Deny that logic.

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...It's just not active. Its It's been said by at least one source that all super humans superhumans are technically mutants who were born with an inactive X-Gene that was activated by an outside stimulus, which is why she doesn't have powers yet. My evidence for this is the fact that, despite being human, Mary Jane has one characteristic shared by almost all female supers: [[MostCommonSuperPower A Giant rack.]] As Another another source says, female Supers supers have big boobs as a side effect of their powers. So, while she doesn't have powers, she has both the side effects that come with it. Deny that logic.



Look at her! She is being played up by so many character who say "she's so this/that/the-other" when those are traits commonly used by ''other'' Spidey Love Intrests. True, she doesn't really look like any of them (especially since the all-important haircut), but that's just so they can say she's not a CompositeCharacter. Here's the breakdown:

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Look at her! She is being played up by so many character who say "she's so this/that/the-other" when those are traits commonly used by ''other'' Spidey Love Intrests.Interests. True, she doesn't really look like any of them (especially since the all-important haircut), but that's just so they can say she's not a CompositeCharacter. Here's the breakdown:



She wanted to date a Superhero, so he gave her Spider-Man (linking their respective deals to make the contracts stronger). Everyone keeps laughing and applauding her because she's being treated like she thinks a super-hero's girlfriend should be (and everyone sees her backstory as more tragic then it is. Honey, this is Marvel (CrapsackWorld much?). You've got to do better than a crooked-cop dad). As a corollary to that-she knows Peter is Spidey, and that ''really is'' the reason she likes him (blowing the whole "falling for plain ol' Peter Parker" line out of the water). She's actually waiting for him to tell her, so she can bust out the "oh I knew all along" cliché.

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She wanted to date a Superhero, superhero, so he gave her Spider-Man (linking their respective deals to make the contracts stronger). Everyone keeps laughing and applauding her because she's being treated like she thinks a super-hero's superhero's girlfriend should be (and everyone sees her backstory as more tragic then it is. Honey, this is Marvel (CrapsackWorld much?). You've got to do better than a crooked-cop dad). As a corollary to that-she that, she knows Peter is Spidey, and that ''really is'' the reason she likes him (blowing the whole "falling for plain ol' Peter Parker" line out of the water). She's actually waiting for him to tell her, so she can bust out the "oh I knew all along" cliché.



** YES! That is exactly what we need! I really want to get into comic writing JUST SO I CAN PUT THIS IN! I don't CARE if Joey Que tries to stop me! I'LL DO IT DAMN IT! Exbanding on the above moment, (Sorry if I end up hijacking your idea, but this is what my mind thought up after reading that) after GR leaves, Peter, trying to take his mind of the subject, goes on a date with [[CreatorsPet Carlie Cooper]]. At which point, Deadpool, who's on a date in the same restaraunt with some random person (Either a hooker, a transvesite, an unatractive woman, or a blow up sex doll. depending on which'd be funnier and more in character), tries to say hi to 'Spidey and Mary Jane', until he realizes that its not MJ. He questions what happened, at which point when he brings up that they were once married, HE TOO GIVES HIM A DRESSING DOWN after realizing what's really happened when he does a quick Wikipedia search on OMD. During this rucus, Squirrel Girl will notice and ask what's going on. When she finds out, she proceeds to ''also give him a talking to'' about the subject. When Carlie objects to this, she storms off. Later, Carlie Cooper attacks Mary Jane, [[TakeThatScrappy reveals herself as a shape shifting MALE demon]] with the ability to control a person's perception, hoping to kill MJ to avoid Mephisto's plans being unserped. During the fight, Deadpool, Squirrel Girl, and Spider-Man show up and get pwned, causing Mary Jane to use Deadpool's gun to shoot the demon in the face, which had revealed its true form as a Joe Quesada look alike. Because of this, Peter and Mary Jane regain their memories fully, and remember their love for each other. Peter tracks down Ghost Rider, appologizes for being so stupid, and he agrees to help him. They gather a small band of heroes, and the whole group, including Deadpool and Squirrel Girl, go to find a way into hell: Bifrost. With Loki's help, they travel to Mephisto's realm, and promptly defeat the demon overlord and get the chance to undo it. BUT, to stop Joey Que or anyone else from interfeering, Mephisto makes a catch: If they undo it all, everything since will be undone. Harry, Captain America and Aunt May will die, again, Tony Stark will become a Nazi once more, and Loki will return to his former, evil self. BUT, Loki will point out a loop hole, that they only sold their marriage, NOT their love. And as such, they're able to reunite, so long as they don't ever marry. Since Joey Que only hates marriage, he'll have no reason to object, and as such the Spidey relationship will be intact. I've actually thought of a scene or too for this.

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** YES! That is exactly what we need! I really want to get into comic writing JUST SO I CAN PUT THIS IN! I don't CARE if Joey Que tries to stop me! I'LL DO IT DAMN IT! Exbanding on the above moment, (Sorry if I end up hijacking your idea, but this is what my mind thought up after reading that) after GR leaves, Peter, trying to take his mind of the subject, goes on a date with [[CreatorsPet Carlie Cooper]]. At which point, Deadpool, who's on a date in the same restaraunt with some random person (Either a hooker, a transvesite, an unatractive woman, or a blow up sex doll. depending on which'd be funnier and more in character), tries to say hi to 'Spidey and Mary Jane', until he realizes that its not MJ. He questions what happened, at which point when he brings up that they were once married, HE TOO GIVES HIM A DRESSING DOWN after realizing what's really happened when he does a quick Wikipedia search on OMD. During this rucus, Squirrel Girl will notice and ask what's going on. When she finds out, she proceeds to ''also give him a talking to'' about the subject. When Carlie objects to this, she storms off. Later, Carlie Cooper attacks Mary Jane, [[TakeThatScrappy reveals herself as a shape shifting MALE demon]] with the ability to control a person's perception, hoping to kill MJ to avoid Mephisto's plans being unserped. During the fight, Deadpool, Squirrel Girl, and Spider-Man show up and get pwned, causing Mary Jane to use Deadpool's gun to shoot the demon in the face, which had revealed its true form as a Joe Quesada look alike. Because of this, Peter and Mary Jane regain their memories fully, and remember their love for each other. Peter tracks down Ghost Rider, appologizes for being so stupid, and he agrees to help him. They gather a small band of heroes, and the whole group, including Deadpool and Squirrel Girl, go to find a way into hell: Bifrost. With Loki's help, they travel to Mephisto's realm, and promptly defeat the demon overlord and get the chance to undo it. BUT, to stop Joey Que or anyone else from interfeering, interfering, Mephisto makes a catch: If they undo it all, everything since will be undone. Harry, Captain America and Aunt May will die, again, Tony Stark will become a Nazi once more, and Loki will return to his former, evil self. BUT, Loki will point out a loop hole, that they only sold their marriage, NOT their love. And as such, they're able to reunite, so long as they don't ever marry. Since Joey Que only hates marriage, he'll have no reason to object, and as such the Spidey relationship will be intact. I've actually thought of a scene or too two for this.



--> '''Mary Jane''': Well then. (Cocks a shotgun) Lets get this show on the road.

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--> '''Mary Jane''': Well then. (Cocks a shotgun) Lets Let's get this show on the road.



Here's how I see it. Aunt May will be constantly trying to fix Peter up with her, just like previous adaptations, and it will be sorta a running gag. Then, when the film is over, and Peter is either happy with Gwen, or mourning her possible death (Like the WMG a few entries above that I don't remember if it was mine or not, but it would really make the film a DownerEnding and make it as dark and edgy as they said it would be), when he finally agrees to meet this girl after the credits, to which its either one of the three possibilities:
--> A) Its Hannah Marks, an actress cast as the role of a Film original character who has a crush on Peter, and that that was just a Michael Bay style Misinformation campaign, since a google search of the actress shows her to be a HollywoodHomely at best.

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Here's how I see it. Aunt May will be constantly trying to fix Peter up with her, just like previous adaptations, and it will be sorta a running gag. RunningGag. Then, when the film is over, and Peter is either happy with Gwen, or mourning her possible death (Like the WMG a few entries above that I don't remember if it was mine or not, but it would really make the film a DownerEnding and make it as dark and edgy as they said it would be), when he finally agrees to meet this girl after the credits, to which its it's either one of the three possibilities:
--> A) Its It's Hannah Marks, an actress cast as the role of a Film film original character who has a crush on Peter, and that that was just a Michael Bay style Misinformation campaign, since a google Google search of the actress shows her to be a HollywoodHomely at best.



However, Its possible that Mary Jane won't appear in the series at all, since Marc Webb has shown a distaste for ManicPixieDreamGirl types, and the comic version of Mary Jane could be seen as one from a certain view. But, it would be a pretty funny Stinger.
*** MJ will appear, because: The film will likely spawn a trilogy. Trilogies mostly follow a traditional three act structure, where the second film has a downer ending and the third a happily ever after ending. Therefore, Gwen will die (because she always dies) at the end of the second film. However, MJ will be introduced in the third so we can have an implied happy ending to the series as a whole. Marc Webb's distaste for ManicPixieDreamGirl characters will at best mean that she is portrayed slightly differently. If nothing else, ExecutiveMeddling will require that she appear both because she's the most well-known Spidey girlfriend and because The Death of Gwen Stacy is such a popular story that they'll want to fit it in somewhere.

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However, Its it's possible that Mary Jane won't appear in the series at all, since Marc Webb has shown a distaste for ManicPixieDreamGirl types, and the comic version of Mary Jane could be seen as one from a certain view. But, But it would be a pretty funny Stinger.
stinger.
*** MJ will appear, because: The because the film will likely spawn a trilogy. Trilogies mostly follow a traditional three act structure, where the second film has a downer ending and the third a happily ever after ending. Therefore, Gwen will die (because she always dies) at the end of the second film. However, MJ will be introduced in the third so we can have an implied happy ending to the series as a whole. Marc Webb's distaste for ManicPixieDreamGirl characters will at best mean that she is portrayed slightly differently. If nothing else, ExecutiveMeddling will require that she appear both because she's the most well-known Spidey girlfriend and because The Death of Gwen Stacy is such a popular story that they'll want to fit it in somewhere.



[[WMG: If/When One More Day is undone the story arc will be called Whole New Day]]
The way I see it is that Spidy will get his ass verbally handed to him by one of the other heroes(Ghost Rider or Deadpool because they are the most likely ones to know of the deal). He'll decide he wants the contract null and void but theres no way to do it alone(what got him in this mess in the first place really). The three(if G.R and D.P both get involved) will team up to storm Hell itself to retrieve the innocent soul lost while Daredevil tries to figure out a loophole in the contract. But wait then it'll turn out that it wasn't Mephisto that made the deal:'I like like screwing with people's lives but even I wouldn't condemn a child'.

It'll turn out that it was really Joe Quesada or as he's known in the Marvel Universe as Rumplestiltskin. 'I stole a baby how more evil can you get'. Spidey, Ghost Rider, Deadpool, Daredevil and [[TokenEvilTeammate Mephisto]] will start kicking his ass with Mephisto performing the killing blow since the heroes can't be expected to. And so that Joe Quesada can never pull off another ComicBook/OneMoreDay he'll also die in RealLife on the day the issue comes out. Everything goes back too the way it was before the deal with Spidey reaping all the benefit. There I just saved Spider-Man you are welcomed.

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[[WMG: If/When One More Day is undone undone, the story arc will be called Whole New Day]]
The way I see it is that Spidy Spidey will get his ass verbally handed to him by one of the other heroes(Ghost heroes (Ghost Rider or Deadpool because they are the most likely ones to know of the deal). He'll decide he wants the contract null and void but theres no way to do it alone(what alone (what got him in this mess in the first place really). The three(if three (if G.R and D.P both get involved) will team up to storm Hell itself to retrieve the innocent soul lost while Daredevil tries to figure out a loophole in the contract. But wait then it'll turn out that it wasn't Mephisto that made the deal:'I like like screwing with people's lives but even I wouldn't condemn a child'.

It'll turn out that it was really Joe Quesada or as he's known in the Marvel Universe as Rumplestiltskin. 'I stole a baby baby, how more evil can you get'. get'? Spidey, Ghost Rider, Deadpool, Daredevil and [[TokenEvilTeammate Mephisto]] will start kicking his ass with Mephisto performing the killing blow since the heroes can't be expected to. And so that Joe Quesada can never pull off another ComicBook/OneMoreDay he'll also die in RealLife on the day the issue comes out. Everything goes back too to the way it was before the deal with Spidey reaping all the benefit. There There, I just saved Spider-Man you Spider-Man. You are welcomed.
welcome.



the reason spider-man is around is because he is the son of the original Spidey. The "reboot" is really a prequel about the first Spidey, who existed along with other marvel heroes. However, when the government cracked down on heroes, he lost an arm, was forced into the witness protection program, and Gwen, who had just given birth to his son, died. He was just able to name his son after himself, and give him to his brother Ben. Peter's new name? Curt Connors. He chose this name because he remembered him as a mentor and a one-armed guy. "Curt" became a top-class scientist, but he knew that Spider-man had to return. So, when his son was 17, he CREATED the super spiders. He set one free on purpose and made it bite his son so spider-man would return.

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the The reason spider-man Spider-Man is around is because he is the son of the original Spidey. The "reboot" is really a prequel about the first Spidey, who existed along with other marvel Marvel heroes. However, when the government cracked down on heroes, he lost an arm, was forced into the witness protection program, and Gwen, who had just given birth to his son, died. He was just able to name his son after himself, and give him to his brother Ben. Peter's new name? Curt Connors. He chose this name because he remembered him as a mentor and a one-armed guy. "Curt" became a top-class scientist, but he knew that Spider-man Spider-Man had to return. So, when his son was 17, he CREATED the super spiders. He set one free on purpose and made it bite his son so spider-man Spider-Man would return.



[[WMG:The Amazing spider man sequels, that would be cool if it happens.]]

Since Sony does own the spider-man franchise, and they rebooted it. They should make one of the sequels where the two different spider-man meet. it would make an good movie in my opinion. Which will be like the spider wars.

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[[WMG:The [[WMG:In The Amazing spider man Spider-Man sequels, that would be cool if it happens.]]

Since Sony does own the spider-man Spider-Man franchise, and they rebooted it. it, They should make one of the sequels where the two different spider-man Spider-Men meet. it It would make an a good movie in in, my opinion. Which will be like the spider wars.
Spider Wars.



4. During the sequence where Phil Ulrich kills Kingsley, we never see him with his mask off. It could be anyone, especially since Kingsely once brainwashed another character to be the Hobgoblin...

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4. During the sequence where Phil Ulrich kills Kingsley, we never see him with his mask off. It could be anyone, especially since Kingsely Kingsley once brainwashed another character to be the Hobgoblin...



7. The Kingsely Roger Stern wrote wouldn't go out like a chump the way this guy did.

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7. The Kingsely Kingsley Roger Stern wrote wouldn't go out like a chump the way this guy did.



[[WMG: Mephisto Never Altered Reality]]
Mephisto does not have the power to alter reality even to set thugs free from jail that would go right back in again. So instead of altering reality, he altered people's memories and destroyed the paperwork to make it seem that Peter and Mary never got married.

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[[WMG: Mephisto Never Altered Reality]]
never altered reality]]
Mephisto does not have the power to alter reality even to set thugs free from jail that would go right back in again. So instead of altering reality, he altered people's memories and destroyed the paperwork to make it seem that Peter and Mary Jane never got married.



Carlie is a newly trained Skrull who poor control over her shapeshifting working as a sleeper agent.

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Carlie is a newly trained Skrull who has poor control over her shapeshifting while working as a sleeper agent.



* Good one, except its Spidey's standing with the public that's more like to be in peril. Too many other heroes have had the old bod switcheroo pulled on them to not believe Spidey's story, barring an OMD-style injection of a Death Star-sized IdiotBall.

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* Good one, except its it's Spidey's standing with the public that's more like likely to be in peril. Too many other heroes have had the old bod switcheroo pulled on them to not believe Spidey's story, barring an OMD-style injection of a Death Star-sized IdiotBall.



[[WMG: Aunt May is the antagonist of Spiderman’s life.]]

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[[WMG: Aunt May is the antagonist of Spiderman’s Spider-Man ’s life.]]



* May Parker is an UnwittingPawn, host to a demon. The demon is why the constantly dying May Parker hasn’t passed on(well, that and DeathIsCheap), and is using her [[TheCorrupter to falter Spidey’s morals.]] The demon? None other than Mephisto. He’s using her to control Spiderman, with the ultimate objective to fully corrupt him enough to sell his soul to him.
* May Parker was EvilAllAlong! She keeps getting herself in danger to become a LivingEmotionalCrutch to Peter Parker, keeping her to himself. She’s somewhat GenreSavvy or just willing to take a risk in knowing [[DeathIsCheap she’ll somehow survive]]. She knew about ComicBook/OneMoreDay, using it eliminate May. [[Yandere That way, Spiderman shall be all to herself.]]
* A bit of both. In one of her deaths, she CameBackWrong, becoming a corruptor to Spiderman

[[WMG: Once Quesada is gone, Charlie Cooper will be retconned as [[HornyDevils a succubus.]] ]]

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* May Parker is an UnwittingPawn, host to a demon. The demon is why the constantly dying May Parker hasn’t passed on(well, that and DeathIsCheap), and is using her [[TheCorrupter to falter Spidey’s morals.]] The demon? None other than Mephisto. He’s using her to control Spiderman, Spider-Man, with the ultimate objective to fully corrupt him enough to sell his soul to him.
* May Parker was EvilAllAlong! She keeps getting herself in danger to become a LivingEmotionalCrutch to Peter Parker, keeping her to himself. She’s somewhat GenreSavvy or just willing to take a risk in knowing [[DeathIsCheap she’ll somehow survive]]. She knew about ComicBook/OneMoreDay, using it eliminate May. [[Yandere That way, Spiderman Spider-Man shall be all to herself.]]
* A bit of both. In one of her deaths, she CameBackWrong, becoming a corruptor to Spiderman

Spider-Man.

[[WMG: Once Quesada is gone, Charlie Carlie Cooper will be retconned as [[HornyDevils a succubus.]] ]]
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Ok so what if the reason OMD happens isn't due to any rubbish about Mephisto wanting to feed off their love but instead was because May Parker defeated him in some way he could never come back from. Being essentially The Devil of the Marvel Universe it makes sense that he has some apocalypse plan up his sleeve what if he carries this out say in the Spider-Woman books and right at the end she stops it. Defeated he knows he has to erase her from existence but can't kill her parents because they're either too important to the timeline or his plans. So instead he makes sure she's never conceived by going back in time and taking their marriage hence why he shows Peter her as a child as his way of gloating that he's won.

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Ok so what if the reason OMD happens isn't due to any rubbish about Mephisto wanting to feed off their love but instead was because May Parker defeated him in some way he could never come back from. from? Being essentially The Devil of the Marvel Universe it makes sense that he has some apocalypse plan up his sleeve sleeve, so what if he carries this out out, say in the Spider-Woman books and right at the end she stops it. Defeated it? Defeated, he knows he has to erase her from existence but can't kill her parents because they're either too important to the timeline or his plans. So instead he makes sure she's never conceived by going back in time and taking their marriage marriage, hence why he shows Peter her as a child as his way of gloating that he's won.
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* You're all being ridiculous. Peter Parker is Devil Dinosaur! EverybodyKnowsThat!

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* You're all being ridiculous. Peter Parker is Devil Dinosaur! EverybodyKnowsThat!JustForFun/EverybodyKnowsThat!
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* Returning to the original idea for this particular WMG, just last night I (the original poster) actually thought out the [[WhatTheHellHero potential calling-out scene]] between Spidey and Ghost Rider. After coming home one evening, Peter finds the flame-headed anti-hero waiting for him in his living room. Ghost Rider then proceeds to chew Peter a new one for allowing the DealWithTheDevil to go through (yeah, you have ''[[Creator/JoeQuesada SOME PEOPLE]]'' who'll say it was retconned that Mary Jane made the deal over Peter's objections), giving a clearly-outlined TheReasonYouSuckSpeech that mirrors the fans' and writers' displeasure with ComicBook/OneMoreDay and the events leading up to it. (Incidentally, the confrontation will be a ShoutOut to the "Ignition" storyline in ''TheFlash'', where Franchise/{{Batman}} confronts Wally West about the LaserGuidedAmnesia that Wally asked ComicBook/TheSpectre to pull on the world to make everyone forget he was the Flash--following [[EvilCounterpart Zoom's]] attack on [[LoveInterest Linda Park]] that resulted in their unborn twins being miscarried--and the subsequent arc that led to Wally and Linda reconciling...essentially, that story was ComicBook/OneMoreDay done ''properly''.) And part of that speech, as thought out by me:

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* Returning to the original idea for this particular WMG, just last night I (the original poster) actually thought out the [[WhatTheHellHero potential calling-out scene]] between Spidey and Ghost Rider. After coming home one evening, Peter finds the flame-headed anti-hero waiting for him in his living room. Ghost Rider then proceeds to chew Peter a new one for allowing the DealWithTheDevil to go through (yeah, you have ''[[Creator/JoeQuesada SOME PEOPLE]]'' who'll say it was retconned that Mary Jane made the deal over Peter's objections), giving a clearly-outlined TheReasonYouSuckSpeech that mirrors the fans' and writers' displeasure with ComicBook/OneMoreDay and the events leading up to it. (Incidentally, the confrontation will be a ShoutOut to the "Ignition" storyline in ''TheFlash'', ''ComicBook/TheFlash'', where Franchise/{{Batman}} confronts Wally West about the LaserGuidedAmnesia that Wally asked ComicBook/TheSpectre to pull on the world to make everyone forget he was the Flash--following [[EvilCounterpart Zoom's]] attack on [[LoveInterest Linda Park]] that resulted in their unborn twins being miscarried--and the subsequent arc that led to Wally and Linda reconciling...essentially, that story was ComicBook/OneMoreDay done ''properly''.) And part of that speech, as thought out by me:
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"Joephisto" is the [[FanNickname/ComicBooks nickname]] for [[JoeQuesada Quesada]], as he used Mephisto as an [[AuthorAvatar author avatar]] in [[ComicBook/OneMoreDay his own]] [[SelfInsertFic self-insert fic]], in order to fulfill his own childhood dream to undo the marriage now that [[AscendedFanboy the fanboy has ascended.]] And ''this'', in a story for [[TropeNamer the character behind]] ''[[ComesGreatResponsibility the responsibility thing]]?!?'' '''[[PrecisionFStrike BULLSHIT!]]''' * whud*

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"Joephisto" is the [[FanNickname/ComicBooks nickname]] for [[JoeQuesada [[Creator/JoeQuesada Quesada]], as he used Mephisto as an [[AuthorAvatar author avatar]] in [[ComicBook/OneMoreDay his own]] [[SelfInsertFic self-insert fic]], in order to fulfill his own childhood dream to undo the marriage now that [[AscendedFanboy the fanboy has ascended.]] And ''this'', in a story for [[TropeNamer the character behind]] ''[[ComesGreatResponsibility the responsibility thing]]?!?'' '''[[PrecisionFStrike BULLSHIT!]]''' * whud*



** To answer this point update... Hmm. My personal take on who I'd want to see in this kind of adventure--Wolverine and the Hulk (in a ShoutOut to when these two, together with Spidey and GR, briefly formed the New Fantastic Four), and quite possibly ComicBook/{{Blade}} as well. Alternatively, She-Hulk could take Hulk's place--we'd need [[TheSmurfettePrinciple at least]] [[ActionGirl one action-oriented chick]] on the team. As for Mary Jane shooting a demon in the face... would it be any less awesome if said shot-in-face demon [[TakeThat was designed to look like]] JoeQuesada?

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** To answer this point update... Hmm. My personal take on who I'd want to see in this kind of adventure--Wolverine and the Hulk (in a ShoutOut to when these two, together with Spidey and GR, briefly formed the New Fantastic Four), and quite possibly ComicBook/{{Blade}} as well. Alternatively, She-Hulk could take Hulk's place--we'd need [[TheSmurfettePrinciple at least]] [[ActionGirl one action-oriented chick]] on the team. As for Mary Jane shooting a demon in the face... would it be any less awesome if said shot-in-face demon [[TakeThat was designed to look like]] JoeQuesada?Creator/JoeQuesada?



* Returning to the original idea for this particular WMG, just last night I (the original poster) actually thought out the [[WhatTheHellHero potential calling-out scene]] between Spidey and Ghost Rider. After coming home one evening, Peter finds the flame-headed anti-hero waiting for him in his living room. Ghost Rider then proceeds to chew Peter a new one for allowing the DealWithTheDevil to go through (yeah, you have ''[[JoeQuesada SOME PEOPLE]]'' who'll say it was retconned that Mary Jane made the deal over Peter's objections), giving a clearly-outlined TheReasonYouSuckSpeech that mirrors the fans' and writers' displeasure with ComicBook/OneMoreDay and the events leading up to it. (Incidentally, the confrontation will be a ShoutOut to the "Ignition" storyline in ''TheFlash'', where Franchise/{{Batman}} confronts Wally West about the LaserGuidedAmnesia that Wally asked ComicBook/TheSpectre to pull on the world to make everyone forget he was the Flash--following [[EvilCounterpart Zoom's]] attack on [[LoveInterest Linda Park]] that resulted in their unborn twins being miscarried--and the subsequent arc that led to Wally and Linda reconciling...essentially, that story was ComicBook/OneMoreDay done ''properly''.) And part of that speech, as thought out by me:

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* Returning to the original idea for this particular WMG, just last night I (the original poster) actually thought out the [[WhatTheHellHero potential calling-out scene]] between Spidey and Ghost Rider. After coming home one evening, Peter finds the flame-headed anti-hero waiting for him in his living room. Ghost Rider then proceeds to chew Peter a new one for allowing the DealWithTheDevil to go through (yeah, you have ''[[JoeQuesada ''[[Creator/JoeQuesada SOME PEOPLE]]'' who'll say it was retconned that Mary Jane made the deal over Peter's objections), giving a clearly-outlined TheReasonYouSuckSpeech that mirrors the fans' and writers' displeasure with ComicBook/OneMoreDay and the events leading up to it. (Incidentally, the confrontation will be a ShoutOut to the "Ignition" storyline in ''TheFlash'', where Franchise/{{Batman}} confronts Wally West about the LaserGuidedAmnesia that Wally asked ComicBook/TheSpectre to pull on the world to make everyone forget he was the Flash--following [[EvilCounterpart Zoom's]] attack on [[LoveInterest Linda Park]] that resulted in their unborn twins being miscarried--and the subsequent arc that led to Wally and Linda reconciling...essentially, that story was ComicBook/OneMoreDay done ''properly''.) And part of that speech, as thought out by me:
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[[WMG: Peter Parker/Spider-Man is a [[TokyoMewMew mew mew]]]]

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[[WMG: Peter Parker/Spider-Man is a [[TokyoMewMew [[Manga/TokyoMewMew mew mew]]]]
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Ok so what if the reason OMD happens isn't due to any rubbish about Mephisto wanting to feed off their love but instead was because May Parker defeated him in some way he could never come back from. Being essentially The Devil of the Marvel Universe it makes sense that he has some apocalypse plan up his sleeve what if he carries this out say in the Spider-Woman books and right at the end she stops it. Defeated he knows he has to erase her from existence but can't kill her parents because they're either too important to the timeline or his plans. So instead he makes sure she's never conceived hence why he shows Peter her as a child as his way of gloating that he's won.

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Ok so what if the reason OMD happens isn't due to any rubbish about Mephisto wanting to feed off their love but instead was because May Parker defeated him in some way he could never come back from. Being essentially The Devil of the Marvel Universe it makes sense that he has some apocalypse plan up his sleeve what if he carries this out say in the Spider-Woman books and right at the end she stops it. Defeated he knows he has to erase her from existence but can't kill her parents because they're either too important to the timeline or his plans. So instead he makes sure she's never conceived by going back in time and taking their marriage hence why he shows Peter her as a child as his way of gloating that he's won.
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[[WMG: May Parker (Spider-Woman) defeats Mephisto]]
Ok so what if the reason OMD happens isn't due to any rubbish about Mephisto wanting to feed off their love but instead was because May Parker defeated him in some way he could never come back from. Being essentially The Devil of the Marvel Universe it makes sense that he has some apocalypse plan up his sleeve what if he carries this out say in the Spider-Woman books and right at the end she stops it. Defeated he knows he has to erase her from existence but can't kill her parents because they're either too important to the timeline or his plans. So instead he makes sure she's never conceived hence why he shows Peter her as a child as his way of gloating that he's won.



Mysterio does the extras, Chameleon does the individuals. Through their efforts Peter's entire life has been a lie down to "Aunt May's" wheatcakes.

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Mysterio does the extras, Chameleon does the individuals. Through their efforts efforts, Peter's entire life has been a lie down to "Aunt May's" wheatcakes.
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[[WMG:''One More Day'' will somehow be made into a ''good'' thing.]]This will be done by a very talented writer that [[strike:{{Marvel}}]] Creator/{{Disney}} will hire on sometime in the immediate future. Hey, stranger things have happened. I'm thinkin'

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[[WMG:''One More Day'' will somehow be made into a ''good'' thing.]]This will be done by a very talented writer that [[strike:{{Marvel}}]] [[strike:{{Creator/Marvel}}]] Creator/{{Disney}} will hire on sometime in the immediate future. Hey, stranger things have happened. I'm thinkin'
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And Sam Raimi, or whoever's in charge by then, will cast GaryOldman in the part.

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And Sam Raimi, or whoever's in charge by then, will cast GaryOldman Creator/GaryOldman in the part.
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[[WMG: Spidey is descended from [[LordPeterWimsey Charles and Mary Parker]].]]

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[[WMG: Spidey is descended from [[LordPeterWimsey [[Literature/LordPeterWimsey Charles and Mary Parker]].]]
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''One More Day'' and the Clone Saga have many similarities; [[ExecutiveMeddling editorially-driven]] storylines which were meant to "simplify" Peter Parker by [[ResetButton returning him to a previous status quo]], and which were profoundly unpopular with readers and critics including WebSite/SFDebris and were mocked by [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]. Like the Clone Saga, ''One More Day'' 's CosmicRetcon will probably be undone in the end. Meanwhile, the Clone Saga itself has gone through some rehabilitation in readers' eyes, thanks partly to [[http://lifeofreillyarchives.blogspot.com/ Life of Reilly]] and partly due to ''[[UltimateMarvel Ultimate Spider-Man]]'' 's version of the Saga. Ben Reilly is probably the character with the most unfulfilled potential from the whole thing, and he's been wiped from post-''OMD'' history; having him return would be both a nice Main/MythologyGag and an acknowledgement from the writers of the importance of Spidey's history, warts and all.

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''One More Day'' and the Clone Saga have many similarities; [[ExecutiveMeddling editorially-driven]] storylines which were meant to "simplify" Peter Parker by [[ResetButton returning him to a previous status quo]], and which were profoundly unpopular with readers and critics including WebSite/SFDebris and were mocked by [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]. Like the Clone Saga, ''One More Day'' 's CosmicRetcon will probably be undone in the end. Meanwhile, the Clone Saga itself has gone through some rehabilitation in readers' eyes, thanks partly to [[http://lifeofreillyarchives.blogspot.com/ Life of Reilly]] and partly due to ''[[UltimateMarvel ''[[ComicBook/UltimateMarvel Ultimate Spider-Man]]'' 's version of the Saga. Ben Reilly is probably the character with the most unfulfilled potential from the whole thing, and he's been wiped from post-''OMD'' history; having him return would be both a nice Main/MythologyGag and an acknowledgement from the writers of the importance of Spidey's history, warts and all.
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[[WMG:In ''[[Comicbook/SupermanVsTheAmazingSpiderMan Earth-7642]]'' Peter and MJ are married]]
Clearly, when Mephisto tried to screw with Peter's marriage, Earth-7642 Superman -who is an alternate Silver/Bronze Age Superman- punched him out. And when Mephisto's agents tried to change the past, Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} travelled back in time and blasted them. Married [[TheCape Capes]] look after each other.
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* She worked as a photograph for a while.

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* She worked as a photograph photographer for a while.
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[[WMG:Franchise/SpiderMan is Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'s Marvel DistaffCounterpart]]
Let's go over several Supergirl facts (most of them taken from her Pre-Crisis version):
* Supergirl was fifteen when she started out.
* She often feels [[https://maidofmight.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/superman-282_01.jpg her powers are a burden and she just wants to be normal]], but an older relative instilled a sense of responsibility in her.
* She worked as a photograph for a while.
* She doesnt' always get along with the cops.
* She is a DeadpanSnarker. A [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/supergirl_v2_12_15.jpg big]] [[http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5YsHcdKj67c/TPy1tZtz3lI/AAAAAAAAEcU/SUccaRJT2Xg/s1600/Supergirl%2Bv2%2B21-02.JPG one]].
* Her college boyfriend was a redhead.
* A metropolitan newspaper [[http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pScx8BN4h3s/SOTR1ljUoAI/AAAAAAAABQY/0d7Q0QzwYFI/s320/sg34+1.jpg conducted a smear campaign to ruin her reputation]] for a while because of a journalist who had an axe to grind against her.
* She has been cloned several times.
* One of her clones tried to take over her life, but they [[https://maidofmight.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/supergirl-vol-2-19_011.jpg managed to get along]].
* She has zero luck at the love department.
* She has some traits in common with MJ, too: She starred in a soap opera, took Psychology classes, and got killed because several editors and creative types blamed her for the decline of the franchise.

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