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** Jossed. [[spoiler:Though you were close, Liz's father (The Ruby Eyed Draco) did show up along with the Sky King, who ended up being Raqyauza.]]




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** Potentially jossed. [[spoiler:Team Ganon is back in the tourney with a perfect win record, so it looks like whoever wins between Team Bowser/Sonic will fight his 2-man team, though Ganon could get to the creator's realm before that happens.]]



* In Episode 19, when we see Ridley's origin and how [[spoiler: Samus and co. tried to take him down in their first attempt and believed that they killed him]], upon his awakening Ganon asks him, "How much do you remember?". He then replies angrily that he hates that Ganon is calling him "friend" and a "pet", especially because it's Ganon specifically doing it, similar to how [[spoiler: Bowser has a disdain for Ganon caling him those terms after the events of Melee.]] Ganon also said that Ridley's programming was incomplete, and when we see the interface Ganon is using to show his data, you can clearly see a small image of [[spoiler: Bowser]] in the interface as well. Ridley's general posture and the way he stands is also [[spoiler: eerily similar to Bowser.]] And lastly, throughout the episode Ridley continually keeps seeing flashes of [[spoiler: Bowser's memories of Melee, and of things that have not yet happened to Bowser but will presumably occur in the future such as his fight with Mario in Episode 14, and him being with Mewtwo and Ganon standing in front of a door in Subspace, which this troper believes is the door to the Creator's realm.]] This is further reinforced because Ridley sees [[spoiler: a memory of Bowser summoning of minions]] which he then proceeds to use to summon his own minion, Zero-Ridley. [[spoiler: Perhaps Ganon is using Bowser's Matrix to create Ridley, and the reason why Ridley was able to summon Minions is because he has his data and abilities.]]

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* In Episode 19, when we see Ridley's origin and how [[spoiler: Samus and co. tried to take him down in their first attempt and believed that they killed him]], upon his awakening Ganon asks him, "How much do you remember?". He then replies angrily that he hates that Ganon is calling him "friend" and a "pet", especially because it's Ganon specifically doing it, similar to how [[spoiler: Bowser has a disdain for Ganon caling him those terms after the events of Melee.]] Ganon also said that Ridley's programming was incomplete, and when we see the interface Ganon is using to show his data, you can clearly see a small image of [[spoiler: Bowser]] in the interface as well. Ridley's general posture and the way he stands is also [[spoiler: eerily similar to Bowser.]] And lastly, throughout the episode Ridley continually keeps seeing flashes of [[spoiler: Bowser's memories of Melee, and of things that have not yet happened to Bowser but will presumably occur in the future such as his fight with Mario in Episode 14, and him being with Mewtwo and Ganon standing in front of a door in Subspace, which this troper believes is the door to the Creator's realm.]] This is further reinforced because Ridley sees [[spoiler: a memory of Bowser summoning of minions]] which he then proceeds to use to summon his own minion, Zero-Ridley. [[spoiler: Perhaps Ganon is using Bowser's Matrix to create Ridley, and the reason why Ridley was able to summon Minions is because he has his data and abilities.]]
** Confirmed. [[spoiler:Ridley's matrix data was formed largely from Bowser's data, which was obtained from Bowser back in Episode 8 in order to help Ridley become more of a complete being.
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**With the recent reveal that [[spoiler: Rayquaza is the Sky King]], another possible identity for the four Tetracardinals are Ridley, Rayquaza, Petey Piranha, and Porky Minch.
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[[WMG: When Bowser, Mario and Peach had different outfits [[spoiler: after Bowser released the creators' power, those were actually Peach attaining her ascent mode, while Bowser and Mario just got different forms of their Ascent Modes]].]]

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[[WMG: When Bowser, Mario and Peach had different outfits [[spoiler: after Bowser released the creators' power, those were actually Peach attaining her ascent mode, while Bowser and Mario just got different forms of their Ascent Modes]].]]Modes.]]]]



[[WMG: The Sky King mentioned in Episode 18 that's going to view Liz's Exhibition Match [[spoiler: is actually her father, the leader of the clan that Liz is the heiress to]].]]

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[[WMG: The Sky King mentioned in Episode 18 that's going to view Liz's Exhibition Match [[spoiler: is actually her father, the leader of the clan that Liz is the heiress to]].]]to.]]]]



[[WMG: Bowser's wish that he'll make at the end of Smash King when he wins and gets to meet the Creator will be to [[spoiler: revive Liz]].]]

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[[WMG: Bowser's wish that he'll make at the end of Smash King when he wins and gets to meet the Creator will be to [[spoiler: revive Liz]].]]Liz.]]]]
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[[WMG: The Sky King mentioned in Episode 18 that's going to view Liz's Exhibition Match [[spoiler: is actually her father, the leader of the clan that Liz is the heiress to]]].]

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[[WMG: The Sky King mentioned in Episode 18 that's going to view Liz's Exhibition Match [[spoiler: is actually her father, the leader of the clan that Liz is the heiress to]]].]to]].]]
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: The Sky King]] mentioned in Episode 18 that's going to view Liz's Exhibition Match is actually [[spoiler: her father, the leader of the clan that Liz is the heiress to]]].]

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[[WMG: [[spoiler: The Sky King]] King mentioned in Episode 18 that's going to view Liz's Exhibition Match [[spoiler: is actually [[spoiler: her father, the leader of the clan that Liz is the heiress to]]].]
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[[WMG: When Bowser, Mario and Peach had different outfits [[spoiler: after Bowser released the creators' power]], those were actually [[spoiler: Peach attaining her ascent mode, while Bowser and Mario just got different forms of their Ascent Modes]].]]

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[[WMG: When Bowser, Mario and Peach had different outfits [[spoiler: after Bowser released the creators' power]], power, those were actually [[spoiler: Peach attaining her ascent mode, while Bowser and Mario just got different forms of their Ascent Modes]].]]
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[[WMG: Moving Day is the reason that every Trophy that died on the final day of Melee kept their memories.]]
* It's established that when a trophy loses all 10 of their life stock, they die and are reincarnated as a brand new soul without any of their previous memories, they're essentially an entirely different person. But there's one instance where this rule was broken that hasn't been seen anywhere else in the series, and it was with [[spoiler: Mario, Link, Ganondorf, Mewtwo and Bowser]]. All of them died on the final day of Melee, and yet when they came to the world of Brawl, one way or another, they all remembered their previous lives in Melee fully and weren't memory wiped. This troper believes this has to do with the fact that they died only hours away from the transfer of the world from Melee to Brawl, perhaps the reincarnation system/the Hands weren't able to properly reincarnate them into the next world, and they were able to retain their memories as a result of that oversight of not being finalized in the new world yet.

[[WMG: Fox got reincarnated into Brawl because he was one of the original 12 Smashers in 64.]]
* It was stated by Mewtwo that if Ganon used his sword to destroy a Trophy's Matrix using the same technique [[spoiler: Queen Peach]] created, that person would be permanently dead, never ever to reincarnate. He then proceeded to kill [[spoiler: Pichu, Mewtwo]] and Fox using that sword, destroying their Matrices (aka their bodies). Everyone he killed other than Fox didn't reincarnate into the world of Brawl and permanently lost their bodies, but mysteriously Fox came back. Why was he given this special treatment while the others didn't? This troper believes that it was because he was one of the original trophies, so the Creator remade his body and brought him back as he was an original and "deserved" his place there, aka Creator bias.

[[WMG: The Creator isn't an omnipotent being that can grant any wish.]]
* As it's been brought to the attention of the cast at large by Dedede and Liz, if Master Hand was really as omnipotent and powerful as people like Falco believe (as in he could wipe out the trophies with a thought), then why didn't he just do that with Bowser instead of requesting some skillful trophies to do it for him? It's probably because he's not quite as powerful as we're led to believe, or at least not invincible. If this really is the case that he can't influence peoples' thoughts and actions just by his will (aka without just normally trying to change their mind via talking to them), then it's very unlikely he probably wouldn't be able to grant a wish like what Bowser wants, to just make everyone in the trophy society respect others and not hold any bigotry to their fighting power. Bowser is probably in for a rude wake up call when he meets him.

[[WMG: When Bowser, Mario and Peach had different outfits [[spoiler: after Bowser released the creators' power]], those were actually [[spoiler: Peach attaining her ascent mode, while Bowser and Mario just got different forms of their Ascent Modes]].]]
* [[spoiler: Peach's ascent mode]] has been teased often in the opening to Act 2 and is juxtaposed to Bowser and Mario's ascent modes constantly, so this troper believes that because [[spoiler: Peach and Mario, for better or worse, are the closest people to Bowser]] that they were affected in this way by [[spoiler: Bowser's release of the Creators' power]].

[[WMG: [[spoiler: The Sky King]] mentioned in Episode 18 that's going to view Liz's Exhibition Match is actually [[spoiler: her father, the leader of the clan that Liz is the heiress to]]].]
* It's been established that Liz is the heiress of the Moonstone Tribe of Charizards that have been recently dominating land in the world of Brawl, and she went off on her own to prove that she could overcome Char-Char, one of the strongest Charizards known. Now that she seems to be aiming to finally attain that goal, and keeps hyping up her upcoming match that she wants Bowser to see, and the fact that Char-Char himself seems to know the Sky King and of his importance, makes this troper believe [[spoiler: her fathers' come to see if Liz can finally prove herself.]]

[[WMG: Bowser's wish that he'll make at the end of Smash King when he wins and gets to meet the Creator will be to [[spoiler: revive Liz]].]]
* Right now it seems that Liz might be in mortal peril [[spoiler: being targeted and stalked by Zero Ridley]], and if he's as powerful as Bowser, [[spoiler: she could very likely die in the process]]. Tied in with an earlier theory that the Creator can't grant Bowser's current wish, and the fact that [[spoiler: Ridley's memories of future events]] implies that Bowser will make it to meet the creator, this troper believes Bowser might end up [[spoiler: wishing to revive Liz, possibly at the exchange of his own life if that's what it takes]].
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[[WMG: Ridley is actually [[spoiler: a part of Bowser/connected to him.]]]]
* In Episode 19, when we see Ridley's origin and how [[spoiler: Samus and co. tried to take him down in their first attempt and believed that they killed him]], upon his awakening Ganon asks him, "How much do you remember?". He then replies angrily that he hates that Ganon is calling him "friend" and a "pet", especially because it's Ganon specifically doing it, similar to how [[spoiler: Bowser has a disdain for Ganon caling him those terms after the events of Melee.]] Ganon also said that Ridley's programming was incomplete, and when we see the interface Ganon is using to show his data, you can clearly see a small image of [[spoiler: Bowser]] in the interface as well. And lastly, throughout the episode Ridley continually keeps seeing flashes of [[spoiler: Bowser's memories of Melee, and of things that have not yet happened to Bowser but will presumably occur in the future such as his fight with Mario in Episode 14, and him being with Mewtwo and Ganon standing in front of a door in Subspace, which this troper believes is the door to the Creator's realm.]]

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[[WMG: Ridley is actually [[spoiler: a part of Bowser/connected Bowser/his Matrix was used to make him and made Bowser connected to him.]]]]
* In Episode 19, when we see Ridley's origin and how [[spoiler: Samus and co. tried to take him down in their first attempt and believed that they killed him]], upon his awakening Ganon asks him, "How much do you remember?". He then replies angrily that he hates that Ganon is calling him "friend" and a "pet", especially because it's Ganon specifically doing it, similar to how [[spoiler: Bowser has a disdain for Ganon caling him those terms after the events of Melee.]] Ganon also said that Ridley's programming was incomplete, and when we see the interface Ganon is using to show his data, you can clearly see a small image of [[spoiler: Bowser]] in the interface as well. Ridley's general posture and the way he stands is also [[spoiler: eerily similar to Bowser.]] And lastly, throughout the episode Ridley continually keeps seeing flashes of [[spoiler: Bowser's memories of Melee, and of things that have not yet happened to Bowser but will presumably occur in the future such as his fight with Mario in Episode 14, and him being with Mewtwo and Ganon standing in front of a door in Subspace, which this troper believes is the door to the Creator's realm.]] This is further reinforced because Ridley sees [[spoiler: a memory of Bowser summoning of minions]] which he then proceeds to use to summon his own minion, Zero-Ridley. [[spoiler: Perhaps Ganon is using Bowser's Matrix to create Ridley, and the reason why Ridley was able to summon Minions is because he has his data and abilities.]]
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* WordOfGod has confirmed that the Tetracardinals are connected to the "boss trophies:" whether or not these bosses are members or not remains to be seen.

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* WordOfGod has confirmed that the Tetracardinals are connected to the "boss trophies:" whether or not these bosses are members or not remains to be seen.seen.

[[WMG: Ridley is actually [[spoiler: a part of Bowser/connected to him.]]]]
* In Episode 19, when we see Ridley's origin and how [[spoiler: Samus and co. tried to take him down in their first attempt and believed that they killed him]], upon his awakening Ganon asks him, "How much do you remember?". He then replies angrily that he hates that Ganon is calling him "friend" and a "pet", especially because it's Ganon specifically doing it, similar to how [[spoiler: Bowser has a disdain for Ganon caling him those terms after the events of Melee.]] Ganon also said that Ridley's programming was incomplete, and when we see the interface Ganon is using to show his data, you can clearly see a small image of [[spoiler: Bowser]] in the interface as well. And lastly, throughout the episode Ridley continually keeps seeing flashes of [[spoiler: Bowser's memories of Melee, and of things that have not yet happened to Bowser but will presumably occur in the future such as his fight with Mario in Episode 14, and him being with Mewtwo and Ganon standing in front of a door in Subspace, which this troper believes is the door to the Creator's realm.]]
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* WordOfGOd has confirmed that the Tetracardinals are connected to the "boss trophies:" whether or not these bosses are members or not remains to be seen.

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* WordOfGOd WordOfGod has confirmed that the Tetracardinals are connected to the "boss trophies:" whether or not these bosses are members or not remains to be seen.
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* Alternatively, the [[spoiler: Tetracardinals]] could consist of characters that have been teased throughout various openings and cameos during Act 2. Excluding Ridley himself, [[spoiler: Shadow, Midna, and Roy]] would be the remainder of the [[spoiler: Tetracardinals]].

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* Alternatively, the [[spoiler: Tetracardinals]] could consist of characters that have been teased throughout various openings and cameos during Act 2. Excluding Ridley himself, [[spoiler: Shadow, Midna, and Roy]] would be the remainder of the [[spoiler: Tetracardinals]].Tetracardinals]].
* WordOfGOd has confirmed that the Tetracardinals are connected to the "boss trophies:" whether or not these bosses are members or not remains to be seen.
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** Tabuu: as [[spoiler: the BigBad]] of SSE, Tabuu could also play a major role as [[spoiler: a Tetracardinal.]]

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** Tabuu: as [[spoiler: the BigBad]] of SSE, Tabuu could also play a major role as [[spoiler: a Tetracardinal.]]]]
* Alternatively, the [[spoiler: Tetracardinals]] could consist of characters that have been teased throughout various openings and cameos during Act 2. Excluding Ridley himself, [[spoiler: Shadow, Midna, and Roy]] would be the remainder of the [[spoiler: Tetracardinals]].
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* Given that both [[spoiler: Jiggs]] and Ganon were high-ranking members of [[spoiler: Queen Peach's]] court, with the latter notorious for craving power, it would make sense for [[spoiler: Jigglypuff]] to train Ganondorf in the art of [[spoiler: altering the matrices of trophies]] in order to bring about [[spoiler: Queen's]] downfall.

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* Given that both [[spoiler: Jiggs]] and Ganon were high-ranking members of [[spoiler: Queen Peach's]] court, with the latter notorious for craving power, it would make sense for [[spoiler: Jigglypuff]] to train Ganondorf in the art of [[spoiler: altering the matrices of trophies]] in order to bring about [[spoiler: Queen's]] downfall.downfall.

[[WMG: The members of [[spoiler: the Tetracardinals]]]]
* In Episode 18, it's revealed that Ridley is a member of [[spoiler: the Tetracardinals]], a group of trophies introduced to the World of Brawl as [[spoiler: counterparts to the Creator's Triune]]. Assuming that this group is made up of "bosses" found in Brawl's story mode, the remaining members could be the following:
** Rayquaza: one of Charizard's assistants mentions a visit from "the Sky King." Rayquaza, being a Legendary who lords over the ozone layer, could be [[spoiler: a Tetracardinal]].
** Galleom and/or Duon: both are powerful bosses in SSE. Having a prominent role in the series isn't too farfetched.
** Tabuu: as [[spoiler: the BigBad]] of SSE, Tabuu could also play a major role as [[spoiler: a Tetracardinal.]]
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* Given that both [[spoiler: Jiggs and Ganon]] were high-ranking members of [[spoiler: Queen Peach's]] court, with the latter notorious for craving power, it would make sense for [[spoiler: Jigglypuff]] to train [[spoiler: Ganondorf]] in the art of [[spoiler: altering the matrices of trophies]] in order to bring about [[spoiler: Queen's]] downfall.

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* Given that both [[spoiler: Jiggs Jiggs]] and Ganon]] Ganon were high-ranking members of [[spoiler: Queen Peach's]] court, with the latter notorious for craving power, it would make sense for [[spoiler: Jigglypuff]] to train [[spoiler: Ganondorf]] Ganondorf in the art of [[spoiler: altering the matrices of trophies]] in order to bring about [[spoiler: Queen's]] downfall.
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[[WMG: Ganondorf and [[spoiler: Jigglypuff kill Queen Peach in Melee]]]]
* Given that both [[spoiler: Jiggs and Ganon]] were high-ranking members of [[spoiler: Queen Peach's]] court, with the latter notorious for craving power, it would make sense for [[spoiler: Jigglypuff]] to train [[spoiler: Ganondorf]] in the art of [[spoiler: altering the matrices of trophies]] in order to bring about [[spoiler: Queen's]] downfall.
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* I'm guessing it'll happen when he starts saying "BS" before [[CurseCutShort stopping himself]].

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* I'm guessing it'll happen when he starts saying "BS" before [[CurseCutShort stopping himself]].himself]].

[[WMG: Who helped Ganondorf [[spoiler: Kill Fox in Melee]]]]
* Bowser says "With help from a certain someone I made sure that [[spoiler: Fox was killed the same way Pichu was]]", who was it? It was Falco, the Falco from Melee is nearly a complete opposite from the one in the current world of Brawl. Hes a SoreLoser JerkAss and probably the biggest TheBully the series has seen. He hates that [[spoiler: Fox lost to Mewtwo]], and wants to be number 1 so bad. So bad that he would [[spoiler: Work with Ganondorf to get Fox killed, assuring that he becomes the best Smasher]].
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[[WMG: Fox will have a LateToThePunchline reaction to the B.S. Society's abbreviation]]
* I'm guessing it'll happen when he starts saying "BS" before [[CurseCutShort stopping himself]].
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[[WMG: The Final Battle of the Smash King tourney will be between Team Bowser and Team Mario]]
* After recent events [[spoiler:Team Ganon has certainly been disqualified from the tournement]], with them out of the way Bowser's and Mario's teams have been handed the final battle. In addition I believe it will be the same match-up as Team Bowser vs Team Pikachu, 1 on 1 , and the fights will be between Meta Knight and Ike, Peach and Sonic, and of course Bowser vs Mario.

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[[WMG: The Final Battle of the Smash King tourney will be between Team Bowser and Team Mario]]
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* After recent events [[spoiler:Team Ganon has certainly been disqualified from the tournement]], with them out of the way Bowser's and Mario's Sonic's teams have been handed the final battle. In addition I believe it will be the same match-up as Team Bowser vs Team Pikachu, 1 on 1 , and the fights will be between Meta Knight and Ike, Peach and Sonic, and of course Bowser vs Mario.
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* After recent events Team Ganon has certainly been disqualified from the tournement, with them out of the way Bowser's and Mario's teams have been handed the final battle. In addition I believe it will be the same match-up as Team Bowser vs Team Pikachu, 1 on 1 , and the fights will be between Meta Knight and Ike, Peach and Sonic, and of course Bowser vs Mario.

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* After recent events Team [[spoiler:Team Ganon has certainly been disqualified from the tournement, tournement]], with them out of the way Bowser's and Mario's teams have been handed the final battle. In addition I believe it will be the same match-up as Team Bowser vs Team Pikachu, 1 on 1 , and the fights will be between Meta Knight and Ike, Peach and Sonic, and of course Bowser vs Mario.
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[[WMG: The Final Battle of the Smash King tourney will be between Team Bowser and Team Mario]]
* After recent events Team Ganon has certainly been disqualified from the tournement, with them out of the way Bowser's and Mario's teams have been handed the final battle. In addition I believe it will be the same match-up as Team Bowser vs Team Pikachu, 1 on 1 , and the fights will be between Meta Knight and Ike, Peach and Sonic, and of course Bowser vs Mario.

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