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[[WMG: The reflection [[spoiler: will kill succeed in killing Valkyrie, but it'll be a BittersweetEnding.]]]]

[[WMG: The reflection [[spoiler: will kill succeed in killing Valkyrie, but it'll be a BittersweetEnding.]]

* [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys Also... let's look at Valkyrie's track record, shall we?]] Fletcher was a nice guy but he wasn't exactly clean cut. [[StalkerWithACrush The less said about Caelan the better.]] Then there's the [[ShipTease ambiguously shippy]] [[PlatonicLifePartners friendship]] with Skulduggery. [[spoiler: You know...''Lord Vile.'']]

* There's something sus about this one. He's too polite. [[WorldOfSnark In a universe of Deadpan Snarkers, it is a cause for concern.]] The Hollow Men were definitely eyebrow raising. His father doesn't seem quite competent enough to scheme to Scorn.

* Or maybe Skulduggery is the Slender Man. He's skinny... he wears a nice suit... [[spoiler: he could theoretically make shadow tentacles for himself...]]

** Oh, damnit! I was JUST about to post this.

* By dying. Derek has been itching to do it since book one and the man is [[TrollingCreator troll]] worthy of JossWhedon.

* [[spoiler: As well all know Tanith gets possessed 'permanently' by a remnant. We also know that the only known cure for such is to kill the person. So, why don't they? We know that when Valkyrie went to see Nye she was technically dead... Why not KO Tanith or similar, stick her on the Coach-A-Bowers and wait for her to return, having died and thus forcing the Remnant out? Please do point out any flaws in this beyond practicality. It's possible they can't get Nye to help them or such, but the mention of this could at least be made in suggestion. This troper thought Valkyrie was going to, and should have, said something similar to Skulduggery about it soon after Remnant!Tanith came to be.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Remnant!Tanith and a cure. ]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Remnant!Tanith and a cure]]

* [[TheVoiceless The guy doesn't really say much.]] He doesn't strike me as the CardCarryingVillain type either. He doesn't seem to care about anything but... [[OmnicidalManiac killing stuff.]]

[[WMG: The Reflection's [[spoiler: ultimate plan...]]]]

* Will involve framing Valkyrie [[spoiler: (or Darquesse)]] for it's misdeeds. It can't kill her itself because Skulduggery will react... badly. So it'll make it seem like Valkyrie [[spoiler: is losing control of Darquesse]] and try to force Skulduggery to [[MercyKill keep his promise.]] Bonus points for feeding Valkyrie false memories and making her doubt herself.

* Will involve framing Valkyrie [[spoiler: (or Darquesse)]] for it's misdeeds. It can't kill her itself because Skulduggery will react... badly. So it'll make it seem like Valkyrie [[spoiler: is losing control of Darquesse]] and try to force Skulduggery to [[MercyKill keep his promise.]] Bonus points for feeding Valkyrie false memories and making her doubt herself.

** The only question is, why would Alison look ''exactly like'' Val? The other things make sense, but that part is confusing.

[[WMG: The Valkyrie in Cassandra's vision is not Valkyrie, but rather Alice, Valkyrie's little sister years later.]]
* Eventually, Alice will grow up and wonder why her big sister has looked the same for years. Alice will want to embrace her magic abilities to the full. Valkyrie [[spoiler:falls to her inner dark side, and Alice teams up with Skulduggery to snap her out of it somehow.]] Plus, knowing Derek, Valkyrie's parents [[spoiler:probably ''will die'' by the end of the series.]]

* Eventually, Alice will grow up and wonder why her big sister has looked the same for years. Alice will want to embrace her magic abilities to the full. Valkyrie [[embraces her inner dark side, and Alice teams up with Skulduggery to snap her out of it somehow.]] Plus, knowing Derek, Valkyrie's parents [[probably ''will die'' by the end of the series.]]

* Maybe it'll become Stephanie Edgeley and Val will leave her old life forever without the inconveniance of being a missing person- she's practically moved in with Skulduggery, and she might want to stop endagering her family or something. Maybe the reflection will just push Val out, like a body snatcher, but y'know, a life snatcher. Or maybe Valkyrie dies or becomes Darquesse or something, and Skulduggery will use the reflection as a ReplacementGoldFish, like in Valkyrie's hallucination in Mortal Coil.

* Brutally deconstructing the entire obsessive vampire romance genre. And if you want to go into the whole Darquesse thing...[[spoiler: Valkyrie will rip him into shreds.]] Because this series occasionally [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids like that]]...

* ThisTroper calls genius. Bonus Points for you, sir.

** This Troper agrees. Skulduggery's more like a teacher than anything. It's kinda weird.
* This troper is pining for it. Derek basically eliminated all other romantic options for her, what with her [[spoiler: cheating on Fletcher and Caelan being subsequently being killed...]] Really all that's left is either Skulduggery, a new character, or her becoming a nun. Plus they're just cute together!

It is sort of implied, and they're probably about the same age... This Troper is also a shameless Skul/China shipper.
** Seconded. However, this troper guesses that the relationship will end in tragedy with [[spoiler: the revelation that China got Skulduggery's family killed.]]

** It can be both a TakeThat and a Deconstruction of vampires in general. I mean, Caelan inhabits a lot of vampire cliches. He's handsome, he confuses the heroine, he's quite creepy and has dangerous...but none of this is played as desirable. We can forgive Valkyrie for being confused and uncertain about who she likes better, Caelan or Fletcher, because this troper kind of doubts that Valkyrie knows much about common sense, what with the job she has and the people she hangs out with. However, Caelan is still played up as horribly creepy and unpleasant (to the reader), so he can be a Deconstruction of the vampire romances in general (what with dangerous=hot in a lot of them).

* There's a lot of hints in the series, mainly in two veins. Vein one, Skulduggery seems to match the protagonist profile of [[AuthorAvatar Gordon's]] books -he's presented as 'a good guy', has his morals and character brutally assassinated, finds redemption/is humbled and then is murdered in the least dignified way possible. At the start of the series he is shown to be Valkyrie's dream get-out-Haggard-free meal ticket, and the series hints at his past being darker and darker with small successive reveals slowly blackening his grey morality until the Big Reveal [[spoiler: of Skulduggery being the senseless mass murderer, Lord Vile.]]. He's now humbled [[spoiler: by the reveal of his resurrection being the result of "a Necromancer trick"]] and this troper is sensing even more of an atonement arc, and then... Bam. The other vein the hints seem to be taking is of Skulduggery being able to 'Move On' - it's referenced by many of the characters, and since Skulduggery now has his head, [[spoiler: his origin/rebirth story]] and revenge for his family on Serpine (and possibly [[spoiler: China?]]) all that's left is a) training a protege (Lampshaded by Baron Vengeous, I think) and b) saving the world... Hints from Derek seem to be pointing toward the resolution of both of these. Plus the resolution of their codependent shiptastic (yeah, I said it) /unhealthy closeness/ will have to be resolved, one way or another, and much as I'd like the author of a series with [[spoiler: violence to the point where Darquess/Val gets her /freaking eye popped out by Vile/, not to mention the constant [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar]] levels the references to romance between any of the characters - Sorrowscorn, anyone?-.]] to have it resolved that way I doubt it's going to end up with the two of them alive and walking off into the sunset together. I mean, it's Derek.

** OP here, when was that said? Darn, now I'm going to have to reread the books...unless it was in a short story? This American troper has limited access.

[[WMG: Skulduggery [[spoiler: knew what the Passage entailed and wanted to break down the barriers between life and death to see his wife and son again.]]

* Unsure of exactly where, but I think it was Eliza Scorn who said it, possibly in Death Bringer.

** OP here, when was that said? Darn, now I'm going to have to reread the books...unless it was in a short story? This American troper has limited access.

* Nice, but ultimately ruined by the revelation that(SPOILER) two different people at different locations had to capture his wife and child.

* Nice, but ultimately ruined by the revelation that(SPOILER) two different people at different locations had to capture his wife and child.