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She trades her soul for a wish, or rather, puts it inside a soul gem. Alternately, Call Me Maybe could be from the perspective of Homura, which makes it [[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees take a depressing turn]]. Maybe I think about this too much.

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She trades her soul for a wish, or rather, puts it inside a soul gem. Alternately, Call Me Maybe could be from the perspective of Homura, which makes it [[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees [[WMG/PoisonOakEpilepticTrees take a depressing turn]]. Maybe I think about this too much.



[[WMG: [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} The Birth of Chaos]] is [[spoiler:[[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees all Madoka's fault]]]]]]

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[[WMG: [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} The Birth of Chaos]] is [[spoiler:[[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees [[spoiler:[[WMG/PoisonOakEpilepticTrees all Madoka's fault]]]]]]



[[WMG:[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Discord]] [[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees created the Incubators.]]]]

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[[WMG:[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Discord]] [[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees [[WMG/PoisonOakEpilepticTrees created the Incubators.]]]]



* A Madoka/NTHT crossover is especially [[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees poisonous]] [[FridgeHorror if you think about it]], since [[spoiler:NTHT takes place so far in the future that the sun is burning out...implying that despite the Incubators' efforts, ''universal entropy still takes place''. In other words, ''PMMM'' would become a ShaggyDogStory.]]

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* A Madoka/NTHT crossover is especially [[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees [[WMG/PoisonOakEpilepticTrees poisonous]] [[FridgeHorror if you think about it]], since [[spoiler:NTHT takes place so far in the future that the sun is burning out...implying that despite the Incubators' efforts, ''universal entropy still takes place''. In other words, ''PMMM'' would become a ShaggyDogStory.]]
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** Clearly, the Incubators are a creation of Lambdadelta, while Homura is another [[SelfInsert independent avatar]] of Bernkastel, and [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Devil Homura]] is Bern [[VillainOverride assuming direct control.]]

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** Clearly, the Incubators are a creation of Lambdadelta, while Homura is another [[SelfInsert independent avatar]] of Bernkastel, and [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Devil Homura]] is Bern [[VillainOverride assuming direct control.]]]] This also explains the SuddenDownerEnding; Bernkastel, after all, is the AnthropomorphicPersonification of TrueArtIsAngsty, and was either unsatisied with the SurprisinglyHappyEnding of the original anime and manga or [[YouBastard wanted to teach a lesson to fans who were.]]
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Homura was always an unstable {{Yandere}} who, like Russell, killed her AbusiveParents and was sentenced to death. Then she was chosen to partake in the experiment. Madoka and everyone’s else are people Homura knew. The witches represent her guilt. Kyubey is a computer program created by Happy Dream Inc. to serve as a guide for Homura. Eventually, in [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]], she finally peels away the false reality and begins to awaken, with the goal being to accept her guilt and be “taken away” by Madokami, before she hijacks the dream, putting her to eternal sleep in real life. Another failure.

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Homura was always an unstable {{Yandere}} who, like Russell, killed her AbusiveParents AbusiveParents, possibly Madoka and the others as well, and was sentenced to death. Then she was chosen to partake in the experiment. Madoka and everyone’s else are people Homura knew. The witches are manifestations of her past, like the bosses in Russell’s dream. The grief seeds represent her guilt. Kyubey is a computer program created by Happy Dream Dreamsend Inc. to serve as a guide for Homura. Eventually, in [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]], she finally peels away the false reality and begins to awaken, with the goal being to accept her guilt and be “taken away” by Madokami, before she hijacks the dream, putting her to eternal sleep in real life. Another failure.

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** Clearly, the Incubators are a creation of Lambdadelta, while Homura is another [[SelfInset independent avatar]] of Bernkastel, and [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Devil Homura]] is Bern [[VillainOverride assuming direct control.]]

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** Clearly, the Incubators are a creation of Lambdadelta, while Homura is another [[SelfInset [[SelfInsert independent avatar]] of Bernkastel, and [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Devil Homura]] is Bern [[VillainOverride assuming direct control.]]


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[[WMG: The whole series is Homura’s [[VideoGame/EndRoll Happy Dream.]]]]

Homura was always an unstable {{Yandere}} who, like Russell, killed her AbusiveParents and was sentenced to death. Then she was chosen to partake in the experiment. Madoka and everyone’s else are people Homura knew. The witches represent her guilt. Kyubey is a computer program created by Happy Dream Inc. to serve as a guide for Homura. Eventually, in [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion]], she finally peels away the false reality and begins to awaken, with the goal being to accept her guilt and be “taken away” by Madokami, before she hijacks the dream, putting her to eternal sleep in real life. Another failure.
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[[WMG: [[VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry It's all another game between Bernkastel and Lambdadelta]]]]

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[[WMG: [[VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry It's all another game between Bernkastel and Lambdadelta]]]]Lambdadelta.]]]]



* Kyuubee (Beatrice) is trying to get Madoka (Battler) to become a magical girl (believe in witches) and puts her in increasingly desperate situations to make her make that decision as everybody she knows and cares about is being killed left and right (increasingly inexplicable murders where everybody is dying).

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* ** Kyuubee (Beatrice) is trying to get Madoka (Battler) to become a magical girl (believe in witches) and puts her in increasingly desperate situations to make her make that decision as everybody she knows and cares about is being killed left and right (increasingly inexplicable murders where everybody is dying).
** Clearly, the Incubators are a creation of Lambdadelta, while Homura is another [[SelfInset independent avatar]] of Bernkastel, and [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Devil Homura]] is Bern [[VillainOverride assuming direct control.]]
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[[WMG: Kyubey is a form of [[CthulhuMythos Nyarlathotep]].]]

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[[WMG: Kyubey is a form of [[CthulhuMythos [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Nyarlathotep]].]]



[[WMG: Alternatively, [[CthulhuMythos Nyarlathotep]] actually is, or acts like, an Incubator. The conception about him trying to destroy mankind is a misconception, just like how we misunderstand [[TotalitarianUtilitarian Incubators]] as assholes.]]

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[[WMG: Alternatively, [[CthulhuMythos [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Nyarlathotep]] actually is, or acts like, an Incubator. The conception about him trying to destroy mankind is a misconception, just like how we misunderstand [[TotalitarianUtilitarian Incubators]] as assholes.]]



[[WMG: Madokami assimilated [[CthulhuMythos Yog-Sothoth]] during her sacrifice[=/=]ascension.]]

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[[WMG: Madokami assimilated [[CthulhuMythos [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Yog-Sothoth]] during her sacrifice[=/=]ascension.]]
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[[WMG: A more accurate nickname is than Chidamri Sketch or Sailor Faustus is [[Anime/PrettyCure Pretty Cure]] [[PrettyLittleLiars Liars]].]]

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[[WMG: A more accurate nickname is than Chidamri Sketch or Sailor Faustus is [[Anime/PrettyCure Pretty Cure]] [[PrettyLittleLiars [[Series/PrettyLittleLiars Liars]].]]
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In other words, "X is a Puella Magi" is the next TimeLord.

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In other words, "X is a Puella Magi" is the next TimeLord.
JustForFun/TimeLord.
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** Come to think about it, that actually doesn't seem too far fetched. I did a similarity charts, and possible references, and the results shows an incredible amount of similarity. In fact, the only way it would be even MORE Blatant is if that [[spoiler: Master Chief time travels in the game]] (I'm currently writing it down). It also helps that the results are similar due to our TropePantheons page stating Master Chief and Akemi Homura allied with each other.

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** Come to think about it, that actually doesn't seem too far fetched. I did a similarity charts, and possible references, and the results shows an incredible amount of similarity. In fact, the only way it would be even MORE Blatant is if that [[spoiler: Master Chief time travels in the game]] (I'm currently writing it down). It also helps that the results are similar due to our TropePantheons Pantheon/TropePantheons page stating Master Chief and Akemi Homura allied with each other.
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[[spoiler:In other words, no aliens involved at all (well, there were originally, but it took [[HumansAreBastards humanity]] to bring it to its current perverse conclusion), just some bored super-rich Earthlings watching a phantasmagoric reality show. Mitakihara and the version of Japan seen in ''Gantz'' may both be huge soundstages "populated" by actors a la ''TheTrumanShow''.]] Gantz of course appealed to the perverted desires of debauched, jaded adults, while Incubators reach out to idealistic, hopeful adolescents.

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[[spoiler:In other words, no aliens involved at all (well, there were originally, but it took [[HumansAreBastards humanity]] to bring it to its current perverse conclusion), just some bored super-rich Earthlings watching a phantasmagoric reality show. Mitakihara and the version of Japan seen in ''Gantz'' may both be huge soundstages "populated" by actors a la ''TheTrumanShow''.''Film/TheTrumanShow''.]] Gantz of course appealed to the perverted desires of debauched, jaded adults, while Incubators reach out to idealistic, hopeful adolescents.
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That was [[Franchise/MonsterHigh Cleo de Nile]]. Her wish was to create a world were monsters could live without being [[FantasticRacism persecuted by normies]]. The Monster High world is her witch's barrier.

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That was [[Franchise/MonsterHigh [[Toys/MonsterHigh Cleo de Nile]]. Her wish was to create a world were monsters could live without being [[FantasticRacism persecuted by normies]]. The Monster High world is her witch's barrier.
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[[WMG: The Nilians from {{Meet Dave}} overheard the Incubators.]]

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[[WMG: The Nilians from {{Meet Dave}} ''Film/MeetDave'' overheard the Incubators.]]
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* All that stuff about their contracts extending back to JoanOfArc, UsefulNotes/{{Cleopatra|VII}} and possibly Australopithecines? More lies and manipulation. They've only been doing it since about 1960 (the year after Plan 9 failed).

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* All that stuff about their contracts extending back to JoanOfArc, UsefulNotes/JoanOfArc, UsefulNotes/{{Cleopatra|VII}} and possibly Australopithecines? More lies and manipulation. They've only been doing it since about 1960 (the year after Plan 9 failed).
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[[WMG: Puella Magi Madoka Magica is based off of DrawnToLife!]]

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[[WMG: Puella Magi Madoka Magica is based off of DrawnToLife!]]''VideoGame/DrawnToLife''!]]
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* [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/885743/ Another version of Madotsuki's outfit]]; [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/891945/braid-brown_eyes-brown_hair-crossover-hakata_-shig Madotsuki first meeting Kyube]],[[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/916547/ Madotsuki and her fellow Magical Girls]]; [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/987551/ Poniko going Witch]], [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/987269/ alternate rendition of Madotsuki facing Uboa - notice Poniko's empty body being held within it]]; [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/300820/ the first time Madostuki got sucked into a Witch-Realm after witnessing a Witchkissed friend stab themselves]]; [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/946839/braid-crossover-digital_dissolve-dissolving-grief_ Madotsuki finally turning into a witch]]; and [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/978370/haruhara-knife-madoka_runes-madotsuki-mahou_shoujo Madotsuki's witch form]] ({{Danbooru}} links, may contain NSFW ads).

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* [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/885743/ Another version of Madotsuki's outfit]]; [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/891945/braid-brown_eyes-brown_hair-crossover-hakata_-shig Madotsuki first meeting Kyube]],[[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/916547/ Madotsuki and her fellow Magical Girls]]; [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/987551/ Poniko going Witch]], [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/987269/ alternate rendition of Madotsuki facing Uboa - notice Poniko's empty body being held within it]]; [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/300820/ the first time Madostuki got sucked into a Witch-Realm after witnessing a Witchkissed friend stab themselves]]; [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/946839/braid-crossover-digital_dissolve-dissolving-grief_ Madotsuki finally turning into a witch]]; and [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/978370/haruhara-knife-madoka_runes-madotsuki-mahou_shoujo Madotsuki's witch form]] ({{Danbooru}} (Website/{{Danbooru}} links, may contain NSFW ads).
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[[WMG:Homura has to be a student/step-daughter of [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha Nanoha]] from the future.]]

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[[WMG:Homura has to be a student/step-daughter of [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha [[Franchise/LyricalNanoha Nanoha]] from the future.]]



[[WMG: Kyube's mentioned advanced alien civilization is... [[LyricalNanoha the TSAB]].]]

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[[WMG: Kyube's mentioned advanced alien civilization is... [[LyricalNanoha [[Franchise/LyricalNanoha the TSAB]].]]



[[WMG: Alternative Nanoha connection: The Kyubee are [[LostTechnology Lost]] [[LyricalNanoha Logia.]]]]

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[[WMG: Alternative Nanoha connection: The Kyubee are [[LostTechnology Lost]] [[LyricalNanoha [[Franchise/LyricalNanoha Logia.]]]]



* And LyricalNanoha is established as SufficientlyAdvanced magic. And it's more like forming a bond (friendship or co-worker type of bond) with the Intelligent Device.

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* And LyricalNanoha Franchise/LyricalNanoha is established as SufficientlyAdvanced magic. And it's more like forming a bond (friendship or co-worker type of bond) with the Intelligent Device.
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** Or considering that Homura discovered interdimensional travel, she might end up fighting Rick.
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[[WMG: ''IMMeen'' takes place in the ''Madoka Magica'' universe.]]

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[[WMG: ''IMMeen'' ''VideoGame/IMMeen'' takes place in the ''Madoka Magica'' universe.]]
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(Original WMG in the FiM article, and more of a joke WMG about Creator/EmiriKatou)

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(Original WMG in the FiM ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' article, and more of a joke WMG about Creator/EmiriKatou)
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[[WMG: [[TekkenTagTournament2 Jun Kazama]] was a magical girl]]
[[http://tekken.wikia.com/wiki/Jun_Kazama Jun Kazama]] was a magical girl in ''[[TekkenTagTournament2 Tekken Tag Tournament 2]]''. She has fallen to despair and turned into a witch. Her witch form is [[http://tekken.wikia.com/wiki/Unknown Unknown]] and her barrier is the stage [[http://tekken.wikia.com/wiki/Fallen_Garden Fallen Garden]].

[[WMG: [[LightNovel/{{Oreimo}} Stardust Witch Meruru]] is an alternate Madokaverse]]

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[[WMG: [[TekkenTagTournament2 Jun Kazama]] Kazama was a magical girl]]
[[http://tekken.wikia.com/wiki/Jun_Kazama Jun Kazama]] was a magical girl in ''[[TekkenTagTournament2 Tekken Tag Tournament 2]]''.''VideoGame/TekkenTagTournament2''. She has fallen to despair and turned into a witch. Her witch form is [[http://tekken.wikia.com/wiki/Unknown Unknown]] and her barrier is the stage [[http://tekken.wikia.com/wiki/Fallen_Garden Fallen Garden]].

[[WMG: [[LightNovel/{{Oreimo}} Stardust Witch Meruru]] Meruru is an alternate Madokaverse]]
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[[WMG: The board game {{Zathura}} is a witch]]

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[[WMG: The board game {{Zathura}} Literature/{{Zathura}} is a witch]]
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[[WMG: Kyubey was using Homura to create a [[VideoGame/InazumaEleven Chrono Stone]]]]

Kyubey has always been seeking a good energy source to fight off entropy, and the Grief Seeds aren't really cut out for the job. However, [[spoiler: Akemi Homura]] was [[MagnificentBastard Kyubey's]] attempt of creating an energy source better than the Grief Seeds, the Chrono Stone. However, despite [[spoiler: Homura]]'s attempt to alter time; she and her friends did not fufil the conditions to become a Chrono Stone, though Kyubey did get something just as good.
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* [[WaltDisney Walter Elias]], the Amusement Park [[DistaffCounterpart Warlock]]. It is his nature to entertain the masses at any cost, despite his deteriorating grip on reality. To him, the audience is paramount and the show must always go on.

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* [[WaltDisney [[Creator/WaltDisney Walter Elias]], the Amusement Park [[DistaffCounterpart Warlock]]. It is his nature to entertain the masses at any cost, despite his deteriorating grip on reality. To him, the audience is paramount and the show must always go on.
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I.M. Meen is a Warlock who made a contract with an Incubator who goes after boys instead of girls. His Grief Seed is worked into his book so that it functions as a portal into his Barrier, the Magic Labyrinth of I.M Meen (Barriers are even sometimes referred to as Labyrinths). His "pets" are his familiars, and the "special kind of guy" he mentions as his magic being from in the theme song isn't himself, it's his Incubator. Speaking of his theme song, he says "I've got a little secret that'll really make 'em cry!", which refers to him capturing children so he can harvest their despair. His face looking different in each scene isn't the animation being OffModel - what makes his Warlock form so surreal is that his face keeps morphing on its own, despite the rest of his body being able to pass for a human. Also, notice how in the intro, the kids are live-action in the very first shot where Meen points at them, but after that they're cartoons - the graphic style of Meen's barrier is crude CD-i style animation, and the kids changed to his style when they were sucked inside. This also explains why he hates children studying even though he knows magic - he didn't learn magic on his own; he obtained it through a contract. As a Magical Boy, he might have been a nerd who spent his time reading fantasy novels when he should have been studying, which is why his minions are ordinary trolls instead of Daliesque monstrosities. His reluctance to live in the real world caused him to flunk school and drop out, the despair of which caused his Soul Gem to go dark. As a Warlock, he took his revenge by tricking studious children and sucking them into his Labyrinth to get back at his classmates that succeeded where he failed. This is also why he's so bad at grammar - his dropping out of school was exaggerated to the point where, as a Warlock, he can barely spell. His teleportation ability reflects how he wanted to get away from his peers and be left alone. [[CerebusRetcon Bet you won't look at I.M. Meen]] {{Youtube Poop}}s [[CerebusRetcon the same way again, huh?]]

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I.M. Meen is a Warlock who made a contract with an Incubator who goes after boys instead of girls. His Grief Seed is worked into his book so that it functions as a portal into his Barrier, the Magic Labyrinth of I.M Meen (Barriers are even sometimes referred to as Labyrinths). His "pets" are his familiars, and the "special kind of guy" he mentions as his magic being from in the theme song isn't himself, it's his Incubator. Speaking of his theme song, he says "I've got a little secret that'll really make 'em cry!", which refers to him capturing children so he can harvest their despair. His face looking different in each scene isn't the animation being OffModel - what makes his Warlock form so surreal is that his face keeps morphing on its own, despite the rest of his body being able to pass for a human. Also, notice how in the intro, the kids are live-action in the very first shot where Meen points at them, but after that they're cartoons - the graphic style of Meen's barrier is crude CD-i style animation, and the kids changed to his style when they were sucked inside. This also explains why he hates children studying even though he knows magic - he didn't learn magic on his own; he obtained it through a contract. As a Magical Boy, he might have been a nerd who spent his time reading fantasy novels when he should have been studying, which is why his minions are ordinary trolls instead of Daliesque monstrosities. His reluctance to live in the real world caused him to flunk school and drop out, the despair of which caused his Soul Gem to go dark. As a Warlock, he took his revenge by tricking studious children and sucking them into his Labyrinth to get back at his classmates that succeeded where he failed. This is also why he's so bad at grammar - his dropping out of school was exaggerated to the point where, as a Warlock, he can barely spell. His teleportation ability reflects how he wanted to get away from his peers and be left alone. [[CerebusRetcon Bet you won't look at I.M. Meen]] {{Youtube WebAnimation/{{YouTube Poop}}s [[CerebusRetcon the same way again, huh?]]
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* Dana's "Spook Central" apartment building which served as Gozer's portal was indeed designed under the influence of a Witch Kiss from a former MG who lost her brother in WorldWarOne. (She had a pacifistic nature and wanted to end all wars at all cost, but unfortunately [[HumansAreInsane conflict is in our blood]], so by default she thought "humanity was too sick to survive", much like how Gretchen wanted to "save" humanity by wiping it out.)

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* Dana's "Spook Central" apartment building which served as Gozer's portal was indeed designed under the influence of a Witch Kiss from a former MG who lost her brother in WorldWarOne.UsefulNotes/WorldWarI. (She had a pacifistic nature and wanted to end all wars at all cost, but unfortunately [[HumansAreInsane conflict is in our blood]], so by default she thought "humanity was too sick to survive", much like how Gretchen wanted to "save" humanity by wiping it out.)
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[[WMG: Homura's story is based in a {{Vocaloid}} song.]]

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[[WMG: Homura's story is based in a {{Vocaloid}} Music/{{Vocaloid}} song.]]



[[WMG: Elly is the witch form of [[{{Vocaloid}} Hatsune Miku]].]]

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[[WMG: Elly is the witch form of [[{{Vocaloid}} [[Music/{{Vocaloid}} Hatsune Miku]].]]
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The former MG was a hippie who wished for her brother to return safety from the VietnamWar. He did...and then she learned that he had taken part in the massacre of a small village.

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The former MG was a hippie who wished for her brother to return safety from the VietnamWar.UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar. He did...and then she learned that he had taken part in the massacre of a small village.
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[[WMG: Related to the above, Walpurgis Night is actually the witch form of [[spoiler:either ''VideoGame/Persona3Portable'''s female protagonist, Aigis, one of the Velvet Room sisters or a combination of them]].]]

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[[WMG: Related to the above, Walpurgis Night is actually the witch form of [[spoiler:either ''VideoGame/Persona3Portable'''s ''VideoGame/Persona3 Portable'''s female protagonist, Aigis, one of the Velvet Room sisters or a combination of them]].]]
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[[WMG: "{{Slenderman}}" is a witch.]]

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[[WMG: "{{Slenderman}}" "[[Franchise/TheSlenderManMythos Slender Man]]" is a witch.]]
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[[WMG:Kyuubey is dealing with {{Slenderman}}, somehow.]]

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[[WMG:Kyuubey is dealing with {{Slenderman}}, [[Franchise/TheSlenderManMythos Slender Man]], somehow.]]

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