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* How do you know they were homophobic? They might just no want her to make the same mistakes they did.

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* How do you know they were homophobic? They might just no not want her to make the same mistakes they did.



** Just because he was making out with Hanna and Mona doesn't mean he isn't gay. He might have a problem with accepting his orientation. Would explain his depression and his weird behavior in season 2. Also would explain why he was fascinated with Noel in season 1 and why he hanged out with him so often...

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** Just because he was making out with Hanna and Mona doesn't mean he isn't gay. He might have a problem with accepting his orientation. Would explain his depression and his weird behavior in season 2. Also would explain why he was fascinated with Noel in season 1 and why he hanged hung out with him so often...



** This is actually confirmed as early as the first book but may not be true in the series

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** * This is actually confirmed as early as the first book but may not be true in the series



** This one actually seems to be confirmed for Hanna's phone as of the latest episode

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** * This one actually seems to be confirmed for Hanna's phone as of the latest episode



Think about it, despite being sort of a Boo Radley type in the beginning, how genius would it be if Toby really was involved in the murder after all this time? He's had his named cleared for so long that it would be the twisty-st of twists. Maybe he fooled everyone up until now.

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Think about it, despite being sort of a Boo Radley type in the beginning, how genius would it be if Toby really was involved in the murder after all this time? He's had his named name cleared for so long that it would be the twisty-st of twists. Maybe he fooled everyone up until now.




they actually have some valid points. ( Note = not my posts)

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\nthey They actually have some valid points. ( Note (Note = not my posts)



** Jossed . The unofficial Guide Rosewood Confidential states that Seth was never really psychic.He was given lines to say in order to creep the girls out as per his grandmother's deal with A(note how at the end of the episode the grandmother tells A "this wasn't part of the deal",referring to her shop being messed up,and A gives her an envelope of cash and Seth a large lollipop prompting her to stop complaining).

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** Jossed .Jossed. The unofficial Guide Rosewood Confidential states that Seth was never really psychic. He was given lines to say in order to creep the girls out as per his grandmother's deal with A(note A (note how at the end of the episode the grandmother tells A "this wasn't part of the deal",referring deal", referring to her shop being messed up,and A gives her an envelope of cash and Seth a large lollipop prompting her to stop complaining).



** Jossed as of The Remains of the 'A'

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** * Jossed as of The Remains of the 'A'



** Maybe she's the one who will turn against the team in "The BetrAyal". After witnessing [[spoiler: Emily and Nate]] kissing, it would hardly be surprising if she felt angry enough to lash out.

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** Maybe she's the one who will turn against the team in "The BetrAyal".[=BetrAyal=]". After witnessing [[spoiler: Emily and Nate]] kissing, it would hardly be surprising if she felt angry enough to lash out.



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you may now proceed to shit bricks.

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you You may now proceed to shit bricks.bricks.






* https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KKfKfeHaxNw pretty much explains all of the clues pointing to Aria as A

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* https://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KKfKfeHaxNw This]] pretty much explains all of the clues pointing to Aria as A



** Manipulative and Conning- Manipulated Hanna into developing bulimia, Aria into coming to the Halloween party, and many many **other examples.

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** Manipulative and Conning- Manipulated Hanna into developing bulimia, Aria into coming to the Halloween party, and many many **other other examples.











** confirmed as of episode 4.10

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** confirmed Confirmed as of episode 4.10



* [=CeCe=] is essentially the [[{{Expy}} new]] and [[AdaptationalBadass improved]] [[Literature/PrettyLittleLiars Courtney DiLaurentis.]] For one thing, she impersonates Ali sometimes, just like Courtney did in the books. (They also have the same initials) These impersonations were treated like a game by Alison and [=CeCe=], but maybe on the night of Alison's "murder", one of them went a little too far for Alison's comfort. [=CeCe=] and Ali fought and [=CeCe=] overpowered her, ultimately striking her with a shovel. (A weapon of opportunity perhaps, given that the [=DiLaurentis=] backyard was being dug up at the time to prepare it for a Gazebo to be put in.) Believing Alison to be dead, [=CeCe=] panicked and used the shovel to bury her. She didn't know that Alison was actually unconscious, but Alison's [[ChekhovsSkill ability to hold her breath for long periods of time]] kept her alive and allowed her to punch through the ground with her hand. Spencer, who was wandering around at the time, saw her and pulled her free. (This would explain where she was while Aria, Emily, and Hanna were asleep.) The girls had been drinking at the time, so Spencer may have been blacked out when this happened, explaining why she doesn't remember. Now Alison and [=CeCe=] are working against each other, but neither one is going after the other directly. Instead, they're playing Chess, with Rosewood as the board: [=CeCe=] is trying to keep Alison's friends from looking too closely into the murder. (The "A" scheme is a distraction.) Alison is trying to keep her friends from being hurt by [=CeCe=].

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* [=CeCe=] is essentially the [[{{Expy}} new]] and [[AdaptationalBadass improved]] [[Literature/PrettyLittleLiars Courtney DiLaurentis.]] For one thing, she impersonates Ali sometimes, just like Courtney did in the books. (They also have the same initials) initials.) These impersonations were treated like a game by Alison and [=CeCe=], but maybe on the night of Alison's "murder", one of them went a little too far for Alison's comfort. [=CeCe=] and Ali fought and [=CeCe=] overpowered her, ultimately striking her with a shovel. (A weapon of opportunity perhaps, given that the [=DiLaurentis=] backyard was being dug up at the time to prepare it for a Gazebo to be put in.) Believing Alison to be dead, [=CeCe=] panicked and used the shovel to bury her. She didn't know that Alison was actually unconscious, but Alison's [[ChekhovsSkill ability to hold her breath for long periods of time]] kept her alive and allowed her to punch through the ground with her hand. Spencer, who was wandering around at the time, saw her and pulled her free. (This would explain where she was while Aria, Emily, and Hanna were asleep.) The girls had been drinking at the time, so Spencer may have been blacked out when this happened, explaining why she doesn't remember. Now Alison and [=CeCe=] are working against each other, but neither one is going after the other directly. Instead, they're playing Chess, with Rosewood as the board: [=CeCe=] is trying to keep Alison's friends from looking too closely into the murder. (The "A" scheme is a distraction.) Alison is trying to keep her friends from being hurt by [=CeCe=].









We know that Mrs.Dilaurentis often took Bethany places,bought her nice gifts and asked Bethany to call her aunty Jessi. All of this would seem to indicate that she cared for Bethany,yet in a later recording Bethany states that "she" lied and betrayed Bethany. We also know that Mrs.Dilaurentis was having an affair with Bethany's father and that(according to Mona) Alison was aware of her mother's infidelity and had lured Bethany to the Dilaurentis's back yard that night. So how about this: Mrs.Dilaurentis was spending time with Bethany because Bethany's father asked her to and the two grew to like each other,Bethany to the point of wanting Mrs.Dilaurentis to be her actual mother. Of course Mrs. Dilaurentis couldn't spend all her time with Bethany,having her actual children to take care of and all. Mrs.D likely mentioned Alison to Bethany and eventually had to stop visting Bethany so much,Bethany grew jealous of Alison for being Mrs.D's real daughter(hence the she betrayed me stuff in the recording). At some point Alison discovered her mother's affair and also learned of Bethany,Alison became jealous of her mother spending quality time with this random girl and(perhaps not realizing that Bethany was a mental paient and potentionally dangerous) called her out to the Dilaurentis house saying Jessica wanted to see her(or posing as Jessica saying she wanted to see her). Bethany snuck out of the hospital and went to the Dilaurentis home beliving that she could mend her Relationship with Jessica. However Alison met her instead and taunted her that Jessica didn't really love her,that she could never be Jessica's real daughter,and that Bethany and her father should just go away. Alison then headed home but just as she reached her house an enraged Bethany came up behind her and hit her in the head with the rock. This would explain the phone call Mrs.D recieved from Radley just before Alison was attacked,the franic "what have you done?" mantra,and Mrs.D apparently Protecting Ali's attacker by burying her own daughter. Granted it still leaves questions but it's something to consider.

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We know that Mrs. Dilaurentis often took Bethany places,bought places, bought her nice gifts and asked Bethany to call her aunty Jessi. All of this would seem to indicate that she cared for Bethany,yet Bethany, yet in a later recording Bethany states that "she" lied and betrayed Bethany. We also know that Mrs. Dilaurentis was having an affair with Bethany's father and that(according that (according to Mona) Alison was aware of her mother's infidelity and had lured Bethany to the Dilaurentis's back yard that night. So how about this: Mrs. Dilaurentis was spending time with Bethany because Bethany's father asked her to and the two grew to like each other,Bethany other, Bethany to the point of wanting Mrs.Mrs. Dilaurentis to be her actual mother. Of course Mrs. Dilaurentis couldn't spend all her time with Bethany,having her actual children to take care of and all. Mrs. D likely mentioned Alison to Bethany and eventually had to stop visting Bethany so much,Bethany much, Bethany grew jealous of Alison for being Mrs.Mrs. D's real daughter(hence daughter (hence the she betrayed me stuff in the recording). At some point Alison discovered her mother's affair and also learned of Bethany,Alison Bethany, Alison became jealous of her mother spending quality time with this random girl and(perhaps and (perhaps not realizing that Bethany was a mental paient patient and potentionally dangerous) called her out to the Dilaurentis house saying Jessica wanted to see her(or her (or posing as Jessica saying she wanted to see her). Bethany snuck out of the hospital and went to the Dilaurentis home beliving that she could mend her Relationship relationship with Jessica. However Alison met her instead and taunted her that Jessica didn't really love her,that her, that she could never be Jessica's real daughter,and daughter, and that Bethany and her father should just go away. Alison then headed home but just as she reached her house an enraged Bethany came up behind her and hit her in the head with the rock. This would explain the phone call Mrs. D recieved from Radley just before Alison was attacked,the attacked, the franic "what have you done?" mantra,and Mrs.mantra, and Mrs. D apparently Protecting protecting Ali's attacker by burying her own daughter. Granted it still leaves questions but it's something to consider.





[[WMG:Mrs.Dilaurentis buried Bethany,NOT Alison.]]
Again not my theory! Read it here:http://www.wetpaint.com/pretty-little-liars/articles/2014-08-25-speculation-mrs-dilaurentis-buried-bethany

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\n\n[[WMG:Mrs. Dilaurentis buried Bethany,NOT Bethany, NOT Alison.]]
Again not my theory! Read it here:http://www.[[http://www.wetpaint.com/pretty-little-liars/articles/2014-08-25-speculation-mrs-dilaurentis-buried-bethanycom/pretty-little-liars/articles/2014-08-25-speculation-mrs-dilaurentis-buried-bethany here]].



One day Bethany and Marion were getting some fresh air on Radley's roof when Bethany started having an episode. Maybe she halucinated that Marion was going to hurt her or was a monster or something and pushed Marion away. Unfortunately Bethany Pushed too hard or they were too near to the edge and Marion fell off the roof to her death. To protect both Bethany and themselves Radley's board of directors(including Jessica Dilaurentis)concocted the story that Marion had killed herself.

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One day Bethany and Marion were getting some fresh air on Radley's roof when Bethany started having an episode. Maybe she halucinated hallucinated that Marion was going to hurt her or was a monster or something and pushed Marion away. Unfortunately Bethany Pushed pushed too hard or they were too near to the edge and Marion fell off the roof to her death. To protect both Bethany and themselves Radley's board of directors(including directors (including Jessica Dilaurentis)concocted Dilaurentis) concocted the story that Marion had killed herself.



The theory that's been going around lately is that Bethany Young is actually related to the Dilaurentis family somehow,most seem to believe that Bethany could be either Jason or Ali's secret twin. Here's the thing though When Bethany died she was seventeen while Ali was fifteen and Jason was 21(as was Cece Drake)so no twins there but that doesn't mean that Bethany isn't related to them.
Possiblity one:Bethany was the illegitmate daughter of Jessica Dilaurentis. Obvious I know as Jessica was in an affair with Bethany's father but there is one flaw. How did Jessica hide a pregnancy from her husband? Maybe she didn't,perhaps Jessica let Kenneth belive the baby was his but when she was born Bethany's father demanded custody of her threatening to expose the affair if Jessica didn't comply. Jessica agreed and gave Bethany to her biological father then told Kenneth that the baby didn't make it.
Possibilty Two:Bethany is Kenneth's illegimate Daughter. Kenneth had an affair with Bethany's mother in the past and Bethany was the result. Jessica,Bethany,and Bethany's father were all unaware of this,making Jessica's later Affair with Bethany's father and her relationship with Bethany one big ironic coincidence.
Possibility three:Bethany is Jessica and Kenneth's secret second child. Born inbetween Jason and Ali,maybe her mental problems were discovered early on and she was sent away,possibly under a different last name to hide her. Jason would've been four or so making him too young to remember her and the man Bethany belived to be her father(and whom Jessica was seeing)was her doctor. Alternately Bethany was given to relatives to raise for some reason,they noticed Bethany's mental problems and comitted her. Jessica was in an affair with her brother in law,Bethany's "father".
Possibility four: Bethany is Jason and Ali Cousin and Jessica was in an affair with her brother in law.
Possiblity five:Bethany is the second child of Jessica Dilaurentis and Peter Hastings. As in
possibility one Jessica let Kenneth belive the baby was his but later decided she couldn't deal with having TWO reminders of her affair around and Peter couldn't take her without arousing suspcision so Jessica gave baby Bethany up for adoption then told Kenneth the child didn't make it. Years later Jessica,through her position on Radley's board of directors and/or her affair with Bethany's father discovered that Bethany was the baby she'd given up all those years ago and tried to reconnect with her daughter without actually letting on to Bethany that they were related(Hence Jessica asking to be called Aunty Jessie).

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The theory that's been going around lately is that Bethany Young is actually related to the Dilaurentis family somehow,most somehow, most seem to believe that Bethany could be either Jason or Ali's secret twin. Here's the thing though When when Bethany died she was seventeen while Ali was fifteen and Jason was 21(as was Cece Drake)so [=Cece=] Drake) so no twins there but that doesn't mean that Bethany isn't related to them.
Possiblity one:Bethany Possibility one: Bethany was the illegitmate daughter of Jessica Dilaurentis. Obvious I know as Jessica was in an affair with Bethany's father but there is one flaw. How did Jessica hide a pregnancy from her husband? Maybe she didn't,perhaps didn't, perhaps Jessica let Kenneth belive the baby was his but when she was born Bethany's father demanded custody of her threatening to expose the affair if Jessica didn't comply. Jessica agreed and gave Bethany to her biological father then told Kenneth that the baby didn't make it.
Possibilty Two:Bethany Possibility Two: Bethany is Kenneth's illegimate Daughter.daughter. Kenneth had an affair with Bethany's mother in the past and Bethany was the result. Jessica,Bethany,and Jessica, Bethany, and Bethany's father were all unaware of this,making this, making Jessica's later Affair affair with Bethany's father and her relationship with Bethany one big ironic coincidence.
Possibility three:Bethany three: Bethany is Jessica and Kenneth's secret second child. Born inbetween in between Jason and Ali,maybe Ali, maybe her mental problems were discovered early on and she was sent away,possibly away, possibly under a different last name to hide her. Jason would've been four or so making him too young to remember her and the man Bethany belived to be her father(and father (and whom Jessica was seeing)was seeing) was her doctor. Alternately Bethany was given to relatives to raise for some reason,they reason, they noticed Bethany's mental problems and comitted her. Jessica was in an affair with her brother in law,Bethany's law, Bethany's "father".
Possibility four: Bethany is Jason and Ali Cousin cousin and Jessica was in an affair with her brother in law.
Possiblity five:Bethany Possibility five: Bethany is the second child of Jessica Dilaurentis and Peter Hastings. As in
possibility one Jessica let Kenneth belive believe the baby was his but later decided she couldn't deal with having TWO reminders of her affair around and Peter couldn't take her without arousing suspcision suspicion so Jessica gave baby Bethany up for adoption then told Kenneth the child didn't make it. Years later Jessica,through Jessica, through her position on Radley's board of directors and/or her affair with Bethany's father discovered that Bethany was the baby she'd given up all those years ago and tried to reconnect with her daughter without actually letting on to Bethany that they were related(Hence related (hence Jessica asking to be called Aunty Jessie).



Someone suggested that Charles might be transgendered and later became CeCe Drake after getting surgery. She decided to date Jason to screw with him and be closer to Ali.
* [[spoiler: Confirmed. Charlotte 'Cece' DiLaurentis, although Drake is correct as well.]]

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Someone suggested that Charles might be transgendered and later became CeCe [=CeCe=] Drake after getting surgery. She decided to date Jason to screw with him and be closer to Ali.
* [[spoiler: Confirmed. Charlotte 'Cece' DiLaurentis, [=DiLaurentis=], although Drake is correct as well.]]



So at the beginning of season six Sara Harvey, another blonde queen bee who went missing around the same time Ali did, was found alive in Charles' "Doll House". It seems she was another "doll" that Charles collected before he grabbed the other girls and there is even speculation that Sara may somehow be Charles. But how about this? Charles did kidnap Sara for his doll house and over time stock home Syndrome set in(or just insanity, remember Sara was in there for several years)leading her to begin working for Charles as red coat, posing as the leader of team A. I know it was reveled that both Ali and Cece acted as red coat but that only really makes sense for the incident in Ravenswood. What about that night at "Ali's" grave? Or the fact that Mona was apparently taking orders from red coat, under the impression that red coat was Ali? That only makes sense if Ali is in fact A (which we know she isn't)or if Ali and Cece had infiltrated team A which is possible but then why wouldn't Ali mention that when she told Emily that she and Cece were the two red coats in Ravenswood? In fact Ali only mentions being red coat with Cece in Ravenswood which brings me back to Sara Harvey being red coat.

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So at the beginning of season six Sara Harvey, another blonde queen bee who went missing around the same time Ali did, was found alive in Charles' "Doll House". It seems she was another "doll" that Charles collected before he grabbed the other girls and there is even speculation that Sara may somehow be Charles. But how about this? Charles did kidnap Sara for his doll house and over time stock home Stockholm Syndrome set in(or in (or just insanity, remember Sara was in there for several years)leading years) leading her to begin working for Charles as red coat, posing as the leader of team A. I know it was reveled that both Ali and Cece acted as red coat but that only really makes sense for the incident in Ravenswood. What about that night at "Ali's" grave? Or the fact that Mona was apparently taking orders from red coat, under the impression that red coat was Ali? That only makes sense if Ali is in fact A (which we know she isn't)or isn't) or if Ali and Cece had infiltrated team A which is possible but then why wouldn't Ali mention that when she told Emily that she and Cece were the two red coats in Ravenswood? In fact Ali only mentions being red coat with Cece in Ravenswood which brings me back to Sara Harvey being red coat.
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Plot twist! The liars ''really'' are behind Allison's murder (or if it's like the books, then [[spoiler: Courtney's murder]]. They had motive after all. A year ago, when they were younger, the liars all came up with a plan to get rid of Allison after she'd gone too far. Plus in this version maybe they knew about [[spoiler: Ian]] the whole time. Maybe the a-team is messing with them to try and avenge her death. Or they blacked out and don't remember themselves... (the pretty little liars)

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Plot twist! The liars ''really'' are behind Allison's murder (or if it's like the books, then [[spoiler: Courtney's murder]]. They had motive after all. A year ago, when they were younger, the liars all came up with a plan to get rid of Allison after she'd gone too far. Plus Plus, in this version version, maybe they knew about [[spoiler: Ian]] the whole time. Maybe the a-team A-team is messing with them to try and avenge her death. Or they blacked out and don't remember themselves... (the pretty little liars)Pretty Little Liars).



When Maya has dinner with the Feilds, she describes her parents as easy going, quirky hippie types. Why then would they get so freaked out about pot, as to send her to a Christian reform camp? Also from her descriptions it seems she likes them, which she would not if they were homophobic, why then would they send her to a CHRISTIAN reform camp?

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When Maya has dinner with the Feilds, Fields family, she describes her parents as easy going, quirky hippie types. Why then would they get so freaked out about pot, as to send her to a Christian reform camp? Also Also, from her descriptions descriptions, it seems she likes them, which she would not if they were homophobic, why then would they send her to a CHRISTIAN reform camp?
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* Semi Jossed although she did get blackmailed from resulting in doing things for them.

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[[WMG: Lucas will lose his virginity to Hanna in an identical way to their roleplay celibacy scene he was introduced in.]]
With or without Caleb watching.

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[[WMG: Lucas will lose his virginity to Hanna in an identical way to their roleplay celibacy scene he was introduced in.]]
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[[WMG: Samara's closeted ex is Alison]]
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[[WMG: Emily is A. ]]
Far fetched theory if Iv'e ever heard one, I know, But that WOULD be the ultimate twist. I mean, she is the sweet one.


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[[WMG: Emily is A. ]]
Far fetched theory if Iv'e ever heard one, I know, But that WOULD be the ultimate twist. I mean, she is the sweet one.






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* Jossed it was Charlotte mistaking Ali for Bethany.



[[WMG:Wren is related to Bethany Young.]]
Not My theory! Read it here:http://youthridedaily.tumblr.com/post/93307977295/bethany-young-a-pretty-little-liars-theory#notes

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[[WMG:Wren is related to Bethany Young.]]
Not My theory! Read it here:http://youthridedaily.tumblr.com/post/93307977295/bethany-young-a-pretty-little-liars-theory#notes





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[[WMG: Bethany is Jenna's twin and 'Bethany' might actually be the real Jenna.]]
There's an official photo (notice the start of the url) of [[http://prettylittleliars.alloyentertainment.com/files/2014/11/tammin-sursok-blonde-e1415419903988.jpg Tammin Sursok (Jenna's actress) getting her hair dyed blonde]]. Plus, she was the one that confirmed that the twin theory was right... also, she said in the 'Who's A?' extra that Jenna is always covering her tracks. What if it's because she actually isn't Jenna, but Bethany, who sent Jenna to radley and killed her when she came back to confront her? And yes, I think they will use the twin plotline like it was in the books. Remember what they did when they revealed who was A...
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* [[spoiler: Confirmed. Charlotte 'Cece' DiLaurentis, although Drake is correct as well.]]



So at the beginning of season six Sara Harvey, another blonde queen bee who went missing around the same time Ali did, was found alive in Charles' "Doll House". It seems she was another "doll" that Charles collected before he grabbed the other girls and there is even speculation that Sara may somehow be Charles. But how about this? Charles did kidnap Sara for his doll house and over time stock home Syndrome set in(or just insanity, remember Sara was in there for several years)leading her to begin working for Charles as red coat, posing as the leader of team A. I know it was reveled that both Ali and Cece acted as red coat but that only really makes sense for the incident in Ravenswood. What about that night at "Ali's" grave? Or the fact that Mona was apparently taking orders from red coat, under the impression that red coat was Ali? That only makes sense if Ali is in fact A (which we know she isn't)or if Ali and Cece had infiltrated team A which is possible but then why wouldn't Ali mention that when she told Emily that she and Cece were the two red coats in Ravenswood? In fact Ali only mentions being red coat with Cece in Ravenswood which brings me back to Sara Harvey being red coat. Even if Cece is in fact Charles as some think, that doesn't dismiss the possibility that Sara helped him/her.

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So at the beginning of season six Sara Harvey, another blonde queen bee who went missing around the same time Ali did, was found alive in Charles' "Doll House". It seems she was another "doll" that Charles collected before he grabbed the other girls and there is even speculation that Sara may somehow be Charles. But how about this? Charles did kidnap Sara for his doll house and over time stock home Syndrome set in(or just insanity, remember Sara was in there for several years)leading her to begin working for Charles as red coat, posing as the leader of team A. I know it was reveled that both Ali and Cece acted as red coat but that only really makes sense for the incident in Ravenswood. What about that night at "Ali's" grave? Or the fact that Mona was apparently taking orders from red coat, under the impression that red coat was Ali? That only makes sense if Ali is in fact A (which we know she isn't)or if Ali and Cece had infiltrated team A which is possible but then why wouldn't Ali mention that when she told Emily that she and Cece were the two red coats in Ravenswood? In fact Ali only mentions being red coat with Cece in Ravenswood which brings me back to Sara Harvey being red coat. Even if Cece is in fact Charles as some think, that doesn't dismiss the possibility that coat.
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Sara helped him/her.was helping Charlotte]]
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** How do you know they were homophobic? They might just no want her to make the same mistakes they did.

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** * How do you know they were homophobic? They might just no want her to make the same mistakes they did.



* Remember way back in Season 1 when Jenna told him how fascinated she was by the nature of evil? Maybe what she was ''really'' saying was "I know who you are and what you did." This might explain the later attempts on her life. He set the fire during Season 2 in an attempt to get rid of her, but when this failed, he realized that he needed help, so he had his [[TheDragon Dragon]] [=CeCe=] go meet Mona and negotiate the transfer of leadership of the A-team to him. Come Season 4, he had one of the team members attempt to drown Jenna.

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* Remember way back in Season 1 when Jenna told him how fascinated she was by the nature of evil? Maybe what she was ''really'' saying was "I know who you are and what you did." This might explain the later attempts on her life. He set the fire during Season 2 in an attempt to get rid of her, but when this failed, he realized that he needed help, so he had his [[TheDragon Dragon]] [=CeCe=] go meet Mona and negotiate the transfer of leadership of the A-team to him. Come Season 4, he had one of the team members attempt to drown Jenna.



** She's a good guy like she says, but A got something on her and forced her to use her premonition abilities to advance the scheme. This would make some of A's more ridiculous moves make a lot more sense. (Season 1's fortune cookie message, anyone?)

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** She's a good guy like she says, but A got something on her and forced her to use her premonition abilities to advance the scheme. This would make some of A's more ridiculous moves make a lot more sense. (Season 1's fortune cookie message, anyone?)



* we know that Mrs.Dilaurentis often took Bethany places,bought her nice gifts and asked Bethany to call her aunty Jessi. All of this would seem to indicate that she cared for Bethany,yet in a later recording Bethany states that "she" lied and betrayed Bethany. We also know that Mrs.Dilaurentis was having an affair with Bethany's father and that(according to Mona) Alison was aware of her mother's infidelity and had lured Bethany to the Dilaurentis's back yard that night. So how about this: Mrs.Dilaurentis was spending time with Bethany because Bethany's father asked her to and the two grew to like each other,Bethany to the point of wanting Mrs.Dilaurentis to be her actual mother. Of course Mrs. Dilaurentis couldn't spend all her time with Bethany,having her actual children to take care of and all. Mrs.D likely mentioned Alison to Bethany and eventually had to stop visting Bethany so much,Bethany grew jealous of Alison for being Mrs.D's real daughter(hence the she betrayed me stuff in the recording). At some point Alison discovered her mother's affair and also learned of Bethany,Alison became jealous of her mother spending quality time with this random girl and(perhaps not realizing that Bethany was a mental paient and potentionally dangerous) called her out to the Dilaurentis house saying Jessica wanted to see her(or posing as Jessica saying she wanted to see her). Bethany snuck out of the hospital and went to the Dilaurentis home beliving that she could mend her Relationship with Jessica. However Alison met her instead and taunted her that Jessica didn't really love her,that she could never be Jessica's real daughter,and that Bethany and her father should just go away. Alison then headed home but just as she reached her house an enraged Bethany came up behind her and hit her in the head with the rock. This would explain the phone call Mrs.D recieved from Radley just before Alison was attacked,the franic "what have you done?" mantra,and Mrs.D apparently Protecting Ali's attacker by burying her own daughter. Granted it still leaves questions but it's something to consider.

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* we We know that Mrs.Dilaurentis often took Bethany places,bought her nice gifts and asked Bethany to call her aunty Jessi. All of this would seem to indicate that she cared for Bethany,yet in a later recording Bethany states that "she" lied and betrayed Bethany. We also know that Mrs.Dilaurentis was having an affair with Bethany's father and that(according to Mona) Alison was aware of her mother's infidelity and had lured Bethany to the Dilaurentis's back yard that night. So how about this: Mrs.Dilaurentis was spending time with Bethany because Bethany's father asked her to and the two grew to like each other,Bethany to the point of wanting Mrs.Dilaurentis to be her actual mother. Of course Mrs. Dilaurentis couldn't spend all her time with Bethany,having her actual children to take care of and all. Mrs.D likely mentioned Alison to Bethany and eventually had to stop visting Bethany so much,Bethany grew jealous of Alison for being Mrs.D's real daughter(hence the she betrayed me stuff in the recording). At some point Alison discovered her mother's affair and also learned of Bethany,Alison became jealous of her mother spending quality time with this random girl and(perhaps not realizing that Bethany was a mental paient and potentionally dangerous) called her out to the Dilaurentis house saying Jessica wanted to see her(or posing as Jessica saying she wanted to see her). Bethany snuck out of the hospital and went to the Dilaurentis home beliving that she could mend her Relationship with Jessica. However Alison met her instead and taunted her that Jessica didn't really love her,that she could never be Jessica's real daughter,and that Bethany and her father should just go away. Alison then headed home but just as she reached her house an enraged Bethany came up behind her and hit her in the head with the rock. This would explain the phone call Mrs.D recieved from Radley just before Alison was attacked,the franic "what have you done?" mantra,and Mrs.D apparently Protecting Ali's attacker by burying her own daughter. Granted it still leaves questions but it's something to consider.



* She clearly has some mental problems and likely isn't on the side of good completely but we all know in this show that the minute you're accused of being A, you're automatically going to be revealed at some point to not be A.
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* She clearly has some mental problems and likely isn't on the side of good completely but we all know in this show that the minute you're accused of being A, you're automatically going to be revealed at some point to not be A.
** * [[spoiler: Confirmed]]



* There's an official photo (notice the start of the url) of [[http://prettylittleliars.alloyentertainment.com/files/2014/11/tammin-sursok-blonde-e1415419903988.jpg Tammin Sursok (Jenna's actress) getting her hair dyed blonde]]. Plus, she was the one that confirmed that the twin theory was right... also, she said in the 'Who's A?' extra that Jenna is always covering her tracks. What if it's because she actually isn't Jenna, but Bethany, who sent Jenna to radley and killed her when she came back to confront her? And yes, I think they will use the twin plotline like it was in the books. Remember what they did when they revealed who was A...

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* There's an official photo (notice the start of the url) of [[http://prettylittleliars.alloyentertainment.com/files/2014/11/tammin-sursok-blonde-e1415419903988.jpg Tammin Sursok (Jenna's actress) getting her hair dyed blonde]]. Plus, she was the one that confirmed that the twin theory was right... also, she said in the 'Who's A?' extra that Jenna is always covering her tracks. What if it's because she actually isn't Jenna, but Bethany, who sent Jenna to radley and killed her when she came back to confront her? And yes, I think they will use the twin plotline like it was in the books. Remember what they did when they revealed who was A...



* He was at the crime scene and he had the motive to want to destroy both her and frame Ali. Plus Grunwald said something about betrayal regarding Mona. Who would be a better betrayer than her #1 minion.

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* He was at the crime scene and he had the motive to want to destroy both her and frame Ali. Plus Grunwald said something about betrayal regarding Mona. Who would be a better betrayer than her #1 minion.



* Someone suggested that Charles might be transgendered and later became CeCe Drake after getting surgery. She decided to date Jason to screw with him and be closer to Ali.

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* Someone suggested that Charles might be transgendered and later became CeCe Drake after getting surgery. She decided to date Jason to screw with him and be closer to Ali.



* So at the beginning of season six Sara Harvey, another blonde queen bee who went missing around the same time Ali did, was found alive in Charles' "Doll House". It seems she was another "doll" that Charles collected before he grabbed the other girls and there is even speculation that Sara may somehow be Charles. But how about this? Charles did kidnap Sara for his doll house and over time stock home Syndrome set in(or just insanity, remember Sara was in there for several years)leading her to begin working for Charles as red coat, posing as the leader of team A. I know it was reveled that both Ali and Cece acted as red coat but that only really makes sense for the incident in Ravenswood. What about that night at "Ali's" grave? Or the fact that Mona was apparently taking orders from red coat, under the impression that red coat was Ali? That only makes sense if Ali is in fact A (which we know she isn't)or if Ali and Cece had infiltrated team A which is possible but then why wouldn't Ali mention that when she told Emily that she and Cece were the two red coats in Ravenswood? In fact Ali only mentions being red coat with Cece in Ravenswood which brings me back to Sara Harvey being red coat. Even if Cece is in fact Charles as some think, that doesn't dismiss the possibility that Sara helped him/her.

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* So at the beginning of season six Sara Harvey, another blonde queen bee who went missing around the same time Ali did, was found alive in Charles' "Doll House". It seems she was another "doll" that Charles collected before he grabbed the other girls and there is even speculation that Sara may somehow be Charles. But how about this? Charles did kidnap Sara for his doll house and over time stock home Syndrome set in(or just insanity, remember Sara was in there for several years)leading her to begin working for Charles as red coat, posing as the leader of team A. I know it was reveled that both Ali and Cece acted as red coat but that only really makes sense for the incident in Ravenswood. What about that night at "Ali's" grave? Or the fact that Mona was apparently taking orders from red coat, under the impression that red coat was Ali? That only makes sense if Ali is in fact A (which we know she isn't)or if Ali and Cece had infiltrated team A which is possible but then why wouldn't Ali mention that when she told Emily that she and Cece were the two red coats in Ravenswood? In fact Ali only mentions being red coat with Cece in Ravenswood which brings me back to Sara Harvey being red coat. Even if Cece is in fact Charles as some think, that doesn't dismiss the possibility that Sara helped him/her.
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* So at the beginning of season six Sara Harvey, another blonde queen bee who went missing around the same time Ali did, was found alive in Charles' "Doll House". It seems she was another "doll" that Charles collected before he grabbed the other girls and there is even speculation that Sara may somehow be Charles. But how about this? Charles did kidnap Sara for his doll house and over time stock home Syndrome set in(or just insanity, remember Sara was in there for several years)leading her to begin working for Charles as red coat, posing as the leader of team A. I know it was reveled that both Ali and Cece acted as red coat but that only really makes sense for the incident in Ravenswood. What about that night at "Ali's" grave? Or the fact that Mona was apparently taking orders from red coat, under the impression that red coat was Ali? That only makes sense if Ali is in fact A (which we know she isn't)or if Ali and Cece had infiltrated team A which is possible but then why wouldn't Ali mention that when she told Emily that she and Cece were the two red coats in Ravenswood? In fact Ali only mentions being red coat with Cece in Ravenswood which brings me back to Sara Harvey being red coat. Even if Cece is in fact Charles as some think, that doesn't dismiss the possibility that Sara helped him/her.
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* Someone suggested that Charles might be transgendered and later became CeCe Drake after getting surgery. She decided to date Jason to screw with him and be closer to Ali.
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[[WMG: Lucas killed Mona]]
* He was at the crime scene and he had the motive to want to destroy both her and frame Ali. Plus Grunwald said something about betrayal regarding Mona. Who would be a better betrayer than her #1 minion.
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[[WMG: Bethany is Jenna's twin and 'Bethany' might actually be the real Jenna.]]
* There's an official photo (notice the start of the url) of [[http://prettylittleliars.alloyentertainment.com/files/2014/11/tammin-sursok-blonde-e1415419903988.jpg Tammin Sursok (Jenna's actress) getting her hair dyed blonde]]. Plus, she was the one that confirmed that the twin theory was right... also, she said in the 'Who's A?' extra that Jenna is always covering her tracks. What if it's because she actually isn't Jenna, but Bethany, who sent Jenna to radley and killed her when she came back to confront her? And yes, I think they will use the twin plotline like it was in the books. Remember what they did when they revealed who was A...
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Possiblity five:Bethany is the second child of Jessica Dilaurentis and Peter Hastings. As in
possibility one Jessica let Kenneth belive the baby was his but later decided she couldn't deal with having TWO reminders of her affair around and Peter couldn't take her without arousing suspcision so Jessica gave baby Bethany up for adoption then told Kenneth the child didn't make it. Years later Jessica,through her position on Radley's board of directors and/or her affair with Bethany's father discovered that Bethany was the baby she'd given up all those years ago and tried to reconnect with her daughter without actually letting on to Bethany that they were related(Hence Jessica asking to be called Aunty Jessie).

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