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* I initially assumed the Judge of Darkness was Nintetales speaking with a dramatic persona and using his/her magic or whatever. Mespirit certainly could have been thought up by that point, but I think it is more likely this entity is supposed to be interpreted as a powerful non-Pokémon spirit (no pun intended) of some sort.




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** Likely jossed considering that Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon has the members of Team ACT (Red/Blue)and the members of Team Skull (Explorers) show up at the same time, even on-screen simultaneously if I recall
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...where Lance succeeds in destroying the world in PokemonSpecial! Lance said that after his plan succeeds the world would be entirely populated with Pokemon except for a few skilled trainers after he succeeded in his plan, so the humans that are left after the apocalypse would have likely died out. A few decades after humans become extinct, the Pokemon would start to develop sentience (if Pokemon "evolve" all the time, they'd likely develop that in a situation where there are no humans around), and the rest is probably history. Pokemon probably know about humans because there are still remaining ruins of human civilization (it's probably no less than fifty, and no more than a hundred years past the destruction), or because there were legends that told about humans.

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...where Lance succeeds in destroying the world in PokemonSpecial! ''Manga/PokemonSpecial''! Lance said that after his plan succeeds the world would be entirely populated with Pokemon except for a few skilled trainers after he succeeded in his plan, so the humans that are left after the apocalypse would have likely died out. A few decades after humans become extinct, the Pokemon would start to develop sentience (if Pokemon "evolve" all the time, they'd likely develop that in a situation where there are no humans around), and the rest is probably history. Pokemon probably know about humans because there are still remaining ruins of human civilization (it's probably no less than fifty, and no more than a hundred years past the destruction), or because there were legends that told about humans.
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* Or rather, the plot twist will be a direct polar opposite to SMD's: your partner was Nihilego in disguise all along, and they only teamed up with you to learn your ways, in order to take over the world for some reason. In the end, you either must kill them or they will perform a HeelFaceTurn to fight against a BiggerBad.
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[[WMG: Dark Matter and, sequentially, the Bitter Cold are in fact [[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon Ultra Beast]].]]
They're both eldritch creatures that seemingly come from other universes, and they only seem intent on destroying the worlds they form in. [[spoiler: Just like the Ultra Beast in ''Sun and Moon'' are implied to have done with the Gen I-V univserse before ''X and Y''...]]

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[[WMG:The future Pokemon Mystery Dungeon game will be branched again.]]
* In the Gen VII PMD games, the games will be splitted, named after VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon. In the story, you are the one dispatched from one of the PrivateMilitaryContractors depending on the version, sending into the mystery force behind the conflict.
* A few starter Pokemon will be the villains or part of villain teams, such as Litten will be the leader of new, reformed [[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon Team Skull]]. Or Pikachu in [[VideoGame/PokemonGO Team Instinct]].
* There will be a major plot twist regarding the storyline: One of the HeelFaceTurn [[UnwittingPawn villain teams]] will point out that your partner [[TheManBehindTheMan is the real leader]] of [[RightWingMilitiaFanatic the terrorist faction]] behind the villain teams, and [[WellIntentionedExtremist those villain teams]] are actually MistakenForTerrorist teams. You must kill your partner in order to end the conflict.

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[[WMG: Everything in ''Time/Darkness/Sky'' is Bidoof's Fault]]
Bidoof wished to Jirachi that he could have friends. That caused Darkrai to rise to power and spin his evil schemes to dethrone Dialga and Palkia, which caused the complex series of events leading to a human getting trapped in the body of a Pokémon and joining the guild, [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor thereby granting his wish]]. Never, ever mess with probability!
* Assuming that Team Charm's special episode takes place a fair ways into the past (say, a decade or so; they're not yet famous, and Wigglytuff's still exploring solo), then no, [[TitleDrop Bidoof's wish]] can't be it, because Darkrai had already taken the Time Gears from the Temporal Tower by that point (quite the slow-acting plan, by all implications), and Bidoof's spent maybe a few months at the guild (at most) before the story starts.
** So Bidoof actually saved the world?
** You're forgetting that time travel is involved in this game.
*** No, I'm not, but where are you going with this? The Time Gears were already established as not to be removed from the areas Darkrai hid them in by that episode, I don't think rumors like that spread through time travel, just good ol' word-of-mouth.
*** For one thing, it is never explicitly stated that Darkrai stole the time gears from Temporal Tower. If removing the time gears from Temporal Tower was directly responsible for bringing down the tower, then Dialga must have been okay with them being gone during his gradual descent into insanity. (It is speculated by many that the gears are okay being hidden around the world, that placing them back into the tower is simply a fail-safe mechanism in case Dialga loses control for whatever reason, which was needed after Darkrai sabotaged the tower.) For another thing, Darkrai travels through time. Upon awaking he could have warped into the past to begin his scheme long ago, creating a StableTimeLoop.
*** There is nothing hinting that the "return the time gears to the Tower" thing is a mere failsafe; certainly the way Grovyle kept talking about it implies that the Tower is the gears' original location.
*** Considering the Time gears are implied to regulate the flow of time in the specific region they're in, it doesn't seem likely that Darkrai stole them to destabilize the tower. This is only helped along by the fact that removing one stops time in that area, which, if the "Stolen by Darkrai" theory were true, should not occur.
*** I think the time gears regulate time (as time did go out of control in the area around where it was kept once it was removed) but the failsafe at Temporal Tower resets that. Or, perhaps Darkrai might try to destroy a time gear and they were hidden so the failsafe could be turned on.

[[WMG: Alternately, Bidoof's Wish helped ''save'' the world.]]
Remember how Jirachi warned him that "it might take a while?" That's because the threads of fate first had to be cast out before he could work with them. In the ''original'' timeline, nobody came back to the past to fix things -- therefore, your cowardly partner lost their Relic Fragment on the beach that day and never worked up the courage to join the Guild. When your hero and Grovyle made their trip back and the hero got thrown off course, Jirachi secretly stepped in, working his magic to help [[CursedWithAwesome turn them into a Pokémon]] (rather than just plain die) and ensured they landed safely on the beach -- putting them right in their future partner's path and ensuring they'd be able to help recover the Relic Fragment. That way, your amnesiac hero would gain the experience and strength needed to ultimately fight powerful Pokémon and save everything, and Bidoof got his [[SempaiKouhai buddies]]. Everybody wins!

[[WMG: Jirachi didn't actually grant Bidoof's wish at all.]]
Think about it for a bit. Remember Jirachi saying that 'it might take a while'? He probably figured that new apprentices would arrive sooner or later and that Bidoof would be able to do things his own way once it happened. He made a few flashy lights and went back to sleep, fairly sure it would come true by itself eventually. Heck, he might have done this for a few wishes that didn't need any power and would most likely happen by fate.

[[WMG: Giving out Eggs as rewards is just how adoption works in the PMD world -- or at least in Treasure Town.]]
There aren't any orphanages or other such services available, unless you count Chansey's Daycare... and even ''then'', she only cares for the eggs until they ''hatch''. If you want to ensure that a hatchling you can't care for yourself is going to be well taken care of, your best bet is to seek out an exploration team or other responsible-looking individuals and hope they accept it.

[[WMG: Magnezone's police are severely understaffed.]]
With the outbreak of bad Pokémon everywhere, most of the police's resources are being sunk into maintaining the prison system and ensuring offenders don't stage a riot or break out. As a result, Magnezone can't send out many officers to catch crooks -- he's barely able to maintain a backup escort for ''himself''! Thus, he worked out an agreement with Wigglytuff's Guild to post bounties. There's no shortage of exploration teams passing through, of all different types; they help ease the crushing workload by taking down criminals (especially ones Magnezone wouldn't be well-matched against), and let the police take care of the cleanup.

[[WMG: At least some of the recruits who join your team are circumventing the whole Guild system.]]
Joining the Guild means signing away most of your profits and having to put up with [[PointyHairedBoss Chatot]] all the time... is it any wonder Pokémon might be put off by more than Wigglytuff's reputation? By contrast, joining an apprentice's ''team'' may mean being barred from "official Guild expeditions" and the like, but you still get to go on ''most'' adventures, getting stronger and more experienced... Thus, certain Pokémon (particularly the ones who join in Treasure Town) may simply be exploiting a loophole, and intend to branch off into their ''own'' Teams at some point in the future.
* Well, going off the being barred from official guild expeditions point... I'm pretty sure Chatot actually referred to your recruits as not being guild members. So I'd say that this guess is actually pretty close to canon.

[[WMG: Wigglytuff's Guild helps fund the various businesses in Treasure Town.]]
Only a few of the shops charge enough to earn an independent profit; the others are supported by Wigglytuff's goodwill. That's why the Guild takes so much of the reward money; they aren't just covering their own expenses, they're ensuring that Kangaskhan, Spinda, Marowak and the others can stay open.
** The Marowak Dojo's backstory folds nicely into this: the original owner had to close up shop because he couldn't afford it any longer. After the Wigglytuff Guild was formed and he started supporting the other shops, Marowak was able to ask for financial support and reestablish it.

[[WMG: Team Skull died from the injuries they sustained during the late game.]]
In ''Time/Darkness'', their last appearance is in [[spoiler: Brine Cave]], heavily wounded. Having them [[KilledOffForReal die there]] casts their seemingly lighthearted chat about how they helped [[PetTheDog fix a problem they caused in the first place]] in a very different light. They don't ''honestly'' think that one act makes up for a lifetime spent hurting others; it's just easier than reflecting on how their selfishness and [[{{Greed}} greed]] led them to a violent end. They ''know'' they're dying; this is just their way of [[GoOutWithASmile going out with a smile]].

[[WMG: The Time/Darkness/Sky hero was revived.]]
Grovyle somehow had one created from preserved DNA so he could partner with him/her and use the Dimensional Scream ability.
* Perhaps Mewtwo helped.
* Alternately, Ho-oh did it, gifting some random - or maybe not-so-random - set of bones life and additional abilities (ie the Dimensional Scream), like how he revived the Legendary Beasts.

[[WMG:In ''Time/Darkness/Sky'', Dimensional Scream is an actual Ability]]
An "Ability" is, of course, different from an ability. Much like how some Pokémon have Abilities like Static or Poison Point, some humans have the Ability Dimensional Scream. It is unique to the species, and perhaps fairly rare.
This only leaves the question of what the other human Ability is.
* It's probably something along the lines of "Nonfluent: This Pokemon can't understand a word anyone else is saying."
** Which would suggest that the PC could converse with Grovyle even before being transformed.
*** Well, there ''was'' that flashback/dimensional scream at the Groudon statue.
*** Does this mean that N, who could understand Pokemon, has the Dimensional Scream ability?
* Perhaps it's a Hidden Ability.

[[WMG:Primal Dialga is not responsible for any of his actions.]]
He's gone every bit as wild as the Pokemon you meet in the Mystery Dungeons by the time Temporal Tower collapses. He's relying more or less completely on instinct, and is only just rational enough to express his feelings and vague concepts via telepathy, primarily to Dusknoir, his "Trainer". Any appearances of a higher degree of rationality or planning is the result of Darkrai acting like a voice in his head.
* Why is this thing in the WMG page in the first place?! It's already established that Primal Dialga was under control from someone else, though I remember the culprit to be ''Darkrai'', and Dusknoir the ''mercenary'' that Darkrai hired indirectly through Primal Dialga.
** I'm pretty sure the "relying completely on instinct" bit was also established in the game.

[[WMG: The Dimensional Scream functioned differently in the future due to just how [[CrapsackWorld horrible the world had become]].]]
Normally, the Dimensional Scream gives its bearer important information that can be used to avoid danger or keep situations from getting worse. For instance, had the hero heeded their first visions, they could have completely defused the situation ''before'' it unfolded; similarly, the visions at Waterfall Cave let them find their way through quickly (instead of dragging out a potentially dangerous search of the area) and could have helped avoid a major trap.

However, in the BadFuture, ''everything'' is dangerous -- there's no relatively "easy" way to avoid peril. Dangerous Pokemon are running wild, time itself has gone insane, the only order imposed on this world comes from evil minions... and all this was sparked off by Temporal Tower's degradation. Therefore, the "simplest" solution is far from simple: [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong fixing the problem in the past]]. And for that, they need the Time Gears. Thus, every vision in the future is linked to the Time Gears, as that's what is needed to save the world. The Dimensional Scream doesn't offer information on any other options because ''it can't see any''.

[[WMG: The Dimensional Scream can be controlled; however, the Hero never received any such training.]]
After all, in the future, the only visions they received were linked to Time Gears. They weren't aware that this wasn't the ''only'' function the Dimensional Scream had; thus, even if they'd retained all their memories, receiving ''other'' visions in the past still would have shocked them. With proper training, they could control when they have such visions, and possibly even aim for specific information; however, without a knowledgeable source to receive such training ''from''...

[[WMG: Grovyle is [[Anime/YuGiOh Yami Yugi]]]]
After Yami [[spoiler: left Yugi's world forever at the end of the series,]] he became entangled in another dimension and was [[InvoluntaryShapeshifting transformed into a strange creature]]. This explains why Grovyle's disposition and attitude is similar to Yami's. Seriously, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOlqvToq4HU just listen to his voice in the TV special]].
* In addition, based on his near-loving obsession with the sea, Dugtrio is Mako Tsunami. Probably the abridged version. He even claims the sea can talk at one point (saying it wishes the hero and partner good luck).
* Maybe it's because he's voiced by '''''[[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries DAN GREEN]]'''''!!!

[[WMG: The main character from the second TV special is actually a girl]]
Seriously, that's a dude? He (she?) sure sounds a lot like [[Manga/BoboboboBobobo Beauty]]. I'm pretty sure the two are related...
** Well he never said that he was male so...
*** No, it's a he. I'm pretty sure he's referred to as a 'young boy' right at the beginning of the episode.
*** Why wouldn't you just assume he's a kid? Not only does Chatot call the main characters kids when they try to join, ALL the Pokemon anime heroes are kids! Of course he sounds like a girl!

[[WMG: Time is tied to both Dialga's mental health ''and'' his physical health.]]
Even with the planet paralyzed in the bad future, Pokemon can still move around, and enough presumably grows to keep at least some people fed. Time hasn't completely stopped, just in a lot of important ways. The reason why is that Dialga is crazy, but he's still alive; if he should die, time would stop ''completely'' and the world would truly end.
** Makes sense since time began flowing when Dialga was born and continues to flow when his heart beats. Therefore, time would probably end if he were to die.

[[WMG: No TimeTravel was involved ''at all'' with the Explorers games.]]
Maybe the games aren't set in the past. Maybe the games are actually set in an AlternateUniverse. The player character did not [[spoiler: fade away]] because of a change in the timeline. ''This was actually part of [[spoiler: [[EvilPlan Darkrai's plan!]]'' He was trying to get the player out of the way so that his plan will not be ruined.]] After Dialga came back to his senses, he reversed this process and brought the player back. [[spoiler: Darkrai would later try this again.]]
* @/{{Magnezone}} has assumed this was canon from the get-go. Imagine her confusion finding such a thing on WMG alongside wonders like Grovyle = Yami Yugi...
* Ironically, I was the one who wrote that Yami Yugi one...but I was just being funny. Anyway, to expand on and correct this theory, the player's disappearance could have actually been the result of a timeline change. However, the player character didn't cause this. Darkrai had been manipulating Primal Dialga into erasing the PC and Grovyle from the timeline.
* [[VoodooShark But that opens up the question of]] ''how'' the player disappeared, and why the characters all assumed time travel even when the presumed time travelers implicitly did plenty of research.

[[WMG: The Time Gears were originally hidden around the world long ago to ''avert'' another crisis.]]
At some point in the distant past, time began warping itself in certain areas . This may have actually been [[spoiler: Darkrai's]] ''first'' attempt at paralyzing the planet; they found a way to make time chaotic in small regions, moving them out of sync with other lands. Pokemon around the world began going wild, mystery dungeons started appearing, growing more numerous and unpredictable as time slid further and further out of control.

In order to prevent time from completely collapsing, Dialga permitted the Time Gears being removed from Temporal Tower and strategically hidden in the regions hit the worst by time's decay. This stabilized time as a stop-gap measure, but it would take centuries for the lands to heal. Thus, Dialga left them where they were, figuring this arrangement would be fine for a few centuries or so -- Temporal Tower wasn't in any danger, standing strong and proud. So long as all Pokemon knew that disaster would befall them if anything happened to the Time Gears, [[WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong it'd work out just fine, right]]?

Of course, this also gave the scheming villain plenty of time to ''work'' with these arrangements... Over the centuries, they gradually undermined Dialga's plan, ever-so-''slowly'' chipping away at the stability of time and Temporal Tower. These changes were so subtle and minute that they were effectively {{Gaslighting}} Dialga; that, combined with the slow-but-steady decline of Temporal Tower, eventually left Dialga in a state of ever-growing madness. Thus, he was in no position to counter the enemy or stop the next phases of their plan... naturally leading to the events of ''Explorers''.

[[WMG: The voice of the Luminous Spring is a Mew.]]
Mew are the ancestors of all Pokemon, so it'd make sense that they'd be in charge of helping everyone evolve. Also, [[RuleOfCool it would be awesome]].
* Mew are ''supposedly'' the ancestors of all Pokemon. Arceus makes more sense anyway, or perhaps there's a legendary in charge of evolution we aren't aware of yet.
* In the debug menu, Jirachi is the pokemon that acts as the voice for Luminous Spring. What does that say?
** What? Mew is the Ancestor, Arceus is the Creator God, what's the confusion? Ancestor means, '[Being] from which [Blank] is descended from', The only beings descended from Arceus are the Dragon Trio and the Lake Trio... Unless Game Freak makes some other stuff. Mew is just the first Mortal Pokemon, like Adam and Lilith/Eve are to Humans, it's not a god or anything.

[[WMG: The ''Explorers'' Partner is an orphan.]]
They're called a 'kid' more than once over the course of the story, and yet lived all alone just outside of town until joining the Wigglytuff Guild. Childcare seems to be hard to come by for orphans if Chansey's Daycare is any indication. Joining the Guild was as much about getting some kind of family as it was about shoring up on confidence and experience.
* I just assumed that the "kid" epithet was more due to their rookie status.
** Really? Because I'm sure 90% of Pokemon's main protagonists are kids around 10-13. Plus, well, let's just say "[[ManChild Manchild]]" seems very unlikely. It's not unreasonable to think "kid" means, well....[[ShapedLikeItself kid.]]
** If you look at it another way... perhaps Bidoof's wish caused the partner to suddenly exist when it hadn't before. Since the partner has no family, of course they're an orphan!

[[WMG: Spinda is as high as a kite.]]
Do I ''really'' have to explain this one?

[[WMG: Ludicolo is the Kool-Aid Man.]]
''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWrMZNwziOQ Oh, yeaaaaah!]]''
* That makes ''[[FridgeBrilliance so much sense]]''. They even look alike!
* Or he's Macho Man RandySavage in Pokémon form.
** Um... about that...

[[WMG: The Duskull running the bank is the present-day version of Dusknoir.]]
Since there [[OneSteveLimit only seems to be one significant member of each Pokemon species]], it's unlikely that there's another Duskull running around during the events of the game.
* So... why doesn't Dusknoir have Duskull's VerbalTic?
** This is because he decides to drop it between the time of the main plot of time/darkness/sky and the dark future that's ruled by Dialga.
* I'm pretty sure there are Dusclops in one of the dungeons in the future, so Dusknoir could easily just have evolved from one of them.

[[WMG: The reason the Time Gears weren't at Temporal Tower was because they'd never been there.]]
OK, so on the Just Bugs Me page, someone asked why the Time Gears weren't at Temporal Tower to begin with. My theory: they were never there. The Time Gears were at the same place as Temporal Tower, guarded by Dialga, until someone raised the idea of building a real tower. Dialga was one of the most important Pokemon involved in building the tower, but this left the Time Gears unguarded for anyone to play with, so he asked Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf, an unknown guardian and Ditto's predecessor to take them to somewhere far out of the way until the Tower was finished. However, just before the Tower was finished, there was an earthquake which damaged the Tower slightly but also killed the guardian in Treeshroud Forest. Dialga had been hit on the head by debris in the earthquake and forgot that he needed the Time Gears there- he thought that time would work fine the way it was, and by the time the Pokemon had recovered from the effects of the quake, the guardians didn't give the Gears back because Dialga hadn't asked for them and it had been a while since they'd been given them, so they just kept them. Over the years, a legend started about how the Gears needed to be at their present locations, and soon Dialga started believing it- especially when someone moved the Treeshroud Forest Gear to see what would happen and time stopped.

[[WMG: The player character in Time/Darkness/Sky was created by Giratina.]]
In the Dark future, Giratina kept his world separated from the paralyzed world, but seeing as the few remaining Pokemon that were still trying to fight Primal Dialga, Giratina decided to help them before sealing his world away from theirs permanently. He called upon Grovyle and Celebi, and told them how they could change the past in order to save the future. He then created the player character specifically to help Grovyle and Celebi with this mission, and used it's power to make sure that the child would age to the proper age for effectively being able to help out with such a dangerous mission.

[[WMG: Chatot is [[YoungerThanTheyLook Younger Than He Looks]].]]
He's actually just about as inexperienced as the rest of the Guild. Sure, he's Wigglytuff's right-hand bird and has shouldered the responsibility of keeping the Guild running, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's an ''adult'' -- at most, he could be a teenager. He hasn't finished growing up yet, and lacks the maturity that age and experience ''should'' bring. Factor in Wigglytuff's own childish nature, and you have somebody who believes they're the OnlySaneMan, which has grossly inflated his ego.

That's why he makes such stupid, snap decisions all the time -- for all the responsibility he holds, he's ''still'' JustAKid.

[[WMG: In the future, time is horribly distorted.]]
Because of that, the past would in some way start to overlap with the present at certain times, which probably made the human protagonist come to the future. The rest is history.

[[WMG: Luxray and Manectric's tribes were ''both'' involved in the betrayal at Amp Plains.]]
The two tribes used to coexist peacefully there, but at some point, a [[PoorCommunicationKills deadly misunderstanding]] occurred, leading to an abrupt, vicious turf war breaking out. At the time of the game events, the two packs maintain an uneasy peace, venturing to the Far Amp Plains at different times... and always on edge, half-expecting the other side to betray them again and launch an ambush.
* And in Explorers of Sky, your partner can be a Shinx... no wonder the Manectric tribe doesn't believe you!
** To Add to this theory, The Horrible Misunderstanding was caused by [[spoiler:Darkrai]].

[[WMG: The reason why the Dimensional Scream works differently in the past and the future]]
Time and Space are "constant" forces in the world which
encompass and surround everything, somewhat like energy fields. The Dimensional Scream
now reaches from inside the person out into these energy fields (Time and Space) and
accesses them. This is how the visions are generally caused.

Now, in the future, time has stopped, so one of these 'fields' is as good as nonexistent.
However, the locations of the Time Gears are essential for the continued flow of time,
right? So maybe these locations were some sort of 'focus points', where time ran
especially strongly in the past; in the future, however, they might be the only place
where residues of 'Time' can be found (as I said, I'm talking about time as some sort of
field or energy). That is why, in the future, only places related to the Time Gears caused
the Dimensional Scream.

In the past, however, time still flows everywhere. As such, the Dimensional Scream can be
triggered not only near Time Gears, but also in totally unrelated locations.

[[WMG: The Treasure in Mt. Bristle Drowzee thought was money and etc. was actually a time gear]]
That's usually what most of the treasures turn out to be, unfortunately.
* I'm sure the game states at some point that there are only five Time Gears. One in Treeshroud Forest, one at each lake, and one at that place that appears in one of the sky extra missions. See the entry below.
** Actually, there was another one that was shown to be inside a volcano, but it was never seen in the game, only in a cutscene. If Mt. Bristle is a volcano that hasn't erupted for years, it could explain where that Time Gear was.
** Also, I thought it was never stated that there were ''only'' five, just that there were ''at least'' five. I think Grovyle even said he had all the "necessary" ones, not specifically ''all'' of them. So it is possible that there could be a Time Gear hidden in Mt. Bristle.

[[WMG: The reason Grovyle goes back to the future is not because he didn't have enough strength to continue, but because of Celebi.]]
What other reason could he have? He's still got enough strength to push Dusknoir around, so he could've continued, but didn't because he wanted to spend his last moments with Celebi.

[[WMG: There exists more than five time gears.]]
Well, at one point we do hear that a time gear was said to be hidden inside a volcano, but none of the five time gears we see were inside one. There may exist other time gears, but only five were needed. After Temporal Tower was restored, it's possible that Dialga drew away the power of the remaining time gears hidden out there to make sure that he would be powerful enough to prevent time from ever going out of control again.

[[WMG: Dialga brought back the PC in Time/Darkness/Sky to prevent a TemporalParadox.]]
If the future you're from no longer existed, then you never existed and therefore could never have saved Dialga in the first place.

[[WMG: The (human) player was resurrected from a fossil.]]
Probably the Pokemon managed to find a way to bring human fossils back to life.

[[WMG: Dialga isn't the god of time, he's the personification of time.]]
Temporal Tower was his original home, and his powers became tied up with it. The Time Gears were just ordinary pieces of the tower. Dialga's power soaked into the stones that made up the tower and gave individual pieces the ability to maintain time. When time began to screw up in certain places, Dialga removed the stones and allowed them to be taken to the afflicted places, but since Temporal Tower was no longer whole, his sanity began to deteriorate.

[[WMG: Perfect Apples are drugs]]
Seriously, you can replace the word "Perfect Apple" with the name of any illegal substance and the whole ordeal would still make sense. Also note how cranky Wigglytuff gets.

[[WMG: Perfect Apples actually tasted bad ]]
It wasn't sold anywhere and Wigglytuff is the only one who likes it. Team Charm gave it to him like it was something of little value.

[[WMG: Temporal Tower is the PMD Universe's manifestation of Franchise/TheDarkTower, and both stories are interrelated.]]
Both towers hold time together, and the protagonist in both stories are trying to stop the towers from becoming destabilized. Your party in PMD is your Ka-tet, and instead of a gunslinger you're a member of the guild. Dusknoir is a incarnation of Randall Flagg/A Servant of the Crimson King.

[[WMG: [[EveryoneIsSatanInHell The Grandmaster Of All Things Bad is Satan]]]]
He takes on the appearance of a charismatic individual in an effort to gain everyone's trust while hiding his true power. He speaks openly of peace and the goodness of all living creatures, while having no problem using violence to solve all of his problems and increasing his numbers to overrun the opposition. Most obviously, he offers the main characters great power and tempts them with an apple, leading to their immediate fall, and admits his true identity afterward.

[[WMG: Team Skull is alive and well]]
After [[spoiler: Brine Cave]], you never see them again, but that doesn't have to mean they're dead. Alternatively they just left the Treasure Town area, having learned their lesson for picking on Pokepals and the Guild. They either found a new target or just decided to lay low and stay out of everyone's way.

[[WMG: How the PMD2 protagonist got their power...]]
The Dusk Forest in the Future. Specifically, it is/was/will be Viridian Forest, and, as in Pokemon Special, it can grant people powers. [[spoiler: You never find out what the protagonist's life was like, excluding what Grovyle has stated, so you would have no clue where the protagonist was born. The distortion of time affected Viridian Forest, but Celebi, whom for the sake of WMG shall be considered guardian of the forest, protected herself and by extension her forest, by shrouding the forest in a dark mist. Years pass, the forest has not been granting powers since world's paralysis; humans are avoiding pokemon to protect themselves, so the gift power not being used and builds up. Then, a human family on the run has a child while hiding in the forest. Celebi, seeing an opportunity, grants the human child powers, but due to the build up of non-used gift power and the distortion of time, the forest's gift becomes the Dimensional Scream. Said gifted child child came back to the forest some years later, and Celebi, realising what has happened, introduces him/her to Grovyle, who was at the time a mere Treecko.]] And everything went from there...

[[WMG: Grovyle used to be human.]]
It's stated early on in Time/Darkness/Sky that the distortion of time is stopping pokemon from evolving. So how did Grovyle manage to evolve from Treecko? Answer: He didn't. He was turned into a pokemon as well, but never revealed it to his partner, as it was painful enough seeing them unable to remember him.

[[WMG: The player DID understand what Grovyle said...]]
...However, it was because of the Dimensional Scream. For me, it DID work in the future... Just in another way. After all, it is the dimensional SCREAM. Maybe it was used to talk with pokémon. Also, when Grovyle and the player talked with Celebi, she said that the Dimensional Scream couldn't be used to talk with pokémon in the past, and when the player lost their memory, it somehow remembered that part. That's why he was surprised when a Pokémon talked to him.

[[WMG: The player lost their personal memories, including the identities of Grovyle and Dusknoir, but not the knowledge or instincts they had picked up while in human form.]]
There is some pretty huge evidence towards this: they remember that humans can't understand Pokémon, they remain heroic just as they were in the future, and they generally seem like they stay just like they were as a human.

[[WMG: The titles of the first two ''Explorers'' games are [[TheNamesake Namesakes.]]]]
The titles may simply seem to be RuleOfCool, but they actually hide a deeper meaning; if you combine them, they can form the collective title of ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonExplorers of Darkness and Time'' (or ''Time and Darkness''). This probably refers to the fact that later in the game, the player character [[spoiler: travels through time and explores the [[BadFuture dark future]]. This would make the player, partner, and Grovyle both "explorers of time" (time travelers) and "explorers of darkness" (the future)]].

''Explorers of Sky'' simply refers to the mission in Shaymin Village, newly added in the remake.
* I thought it was obvious, why is this in WMG?

[[WMG: Pink Celebi actually indicate gender, not shininess.]]
Or, to be precise, if a Celebi is shiny it means it's female. Yes, Celebi don't have a designated gender, but it could just mean gender unknown. This may go to explain why Celebi are so rare-there's only 1 female in [[MemeticMutation over 8000.]]

[[WMG: Darkrai is responsible for [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy dark energy]]]]
Why not? After all, it's a spatial phenomenon [[spoiler:and he was screwing with space]].

[[WMG: The partner pokemon (if it's a Shinx), was orphaned at Amp Plains at some point in the past.]]
In Sky, the Luxray tribe at Amp Plains is replaced with Manectric instead. Maybe the Luxray tribe got wiped out in a territory spat, including Shinx's (your partner's) family. Maybe that's why the partner is so timid at first. It's what this troper likes to think about her partner's origins, which are never properly explained.

[[WMG: The player character from Time/Darkness/Sky was never a human]]
Since all the humans died out long ago, s/he was actually a shapeshifting alien sent to the Pokemon World to undo the bad future. Posing as a human. The Dimensional Scream is an alien ability. Since s/he had already told Groyvle s/he was human, when the hero ended up with amnesia the only memory s/he had left was "I was a human" which was not true. And that may be why s/he turned into a Pokemon. Unbeknownst to him/her, Time Travel has negative side effects on their race, and automatically (Permanently) shape-shifted him/her into another form (Which was affected by his/her subconscious, so if the last thought on his/her mind was Pokemon...)


[[WMG: Explorers is what happened after you had failed]]
* Consider this : We know from the dimensional scream, the player and the Grovyle had visited the Fogbound lake in the future. Now why would they need to go there? If they are simply wanted to change the past, there's no need. Unless they were trying to take time gears in the future...
* Another thing to consider : Why would they need to change the past anyway, instead of just fixing the Temporal Tower in the future? Changing the past is basically erasing themselves from history. Unless, they were really desperate and had no choice...
* Another question : The human had dimensional scream, yes, but still, to travel alone with just two companions in the future is dangerous. The human was either a Badass, or he was originally [[FridgeHorror wasn't alone]].
* Conclusion : The human and his partners had tried before, and failed badly.
** It was like this : In the dark future, there was a human who had Dimensional Scream ability. Knowing he was the only one who can [[TheChosenOne save the world]], he went on adventures to collect the time gears and returned the Temporal Tower back to normal. Of course he wasn't alone, he had several pokemon partners accompanying him, including Grovyle.
** However, he failed badly. Either the Temporal Tower was beyond repair or the time gears in the future were broken; and then he was defeated by either Primal Dialga and/or Dusknoir and his army (and maybe Darkrai too). All the other pokemon in his party were killed and the player and Grovyle merely survive thanks to Celebi intervention.
** As the future world cannot be saved, the player came into conclusion to destroy the timeline instead. It's like Munna's goal in Gates to Infinity. Both Grovyle and the player were desperate enough that they were willing to erase themselves to change the history, because they had nothing to lose. It also explained how Grovyle was bitter and didn't care how he stopped time in the past. Thankfully, the player lost their memory as they traveled into the past, or else you'd be playing with a bitter antihero who would do anything to change the past.
** Grovyle didn't mention anything of their previous adventure as he saw how happy the player was with the new partner. He only told you that you will disappear because there were no choice.

[[WMG:The mons from the BadFuture revived in the game's present, or a relatively short time after]]
Since the bad future lacks any true passage of time (not counting cause and effect), everything would've remained in the exact moment where [[TimeCrash time went down the crapper]]. With how close the player and partner cut it when delivering the Time Gears, it can be assumed this moment would've been not long after your fight with Dialga, which for all intents and purposes is basically the present.

Of note is that in Super you can recruit both the characters from the bad future ''and'' the guild members (who haven't so much as evolved since the events of Explorers, mind you), showing that they exist simultaneously. Then again, this detail could also be explained by Celebi time traveling with everyone.
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[[WMG:Humans are from parallel universes]]
In the pmdverse, humans do not evolve naturally (in the Darwinian sense). However, the pmdverse exists alongside universes in which they do eg. the main series [[spoilers:in both iterations]]. The unstable spacetime that allows for the existence of mystery dungeons allows humans and their works to cross over from their native universe to pmdverse, though this is very rare, enough for humans to be regarded as mythical among the residents of the pmdverse. While they can be summoned directly, the summoner would have to know humans exist, making it likely that the first humans in the pmdverse arrived on accident.



[[WMG:Humans are from parallel universes]]
In the pmdverse, humans do not evolve naturally (in the Darwinian sense). However, the pmdverse exists alongside universes in which they do eg. the main series [[spoilers:in both iterations]]. The unstable spacetime that allows for the existence of mystery dungeons allows humans and their works to cross over from their native universe to pmdverse, though this is very rare, enough for humans to be regarded as mythical among the residents of the pmdverse. While they can be summoned directly, the summoner would have to know humans exist, making it likely that the first humans in the pmdverse arrived on accident.
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[[WMG: The Bittercold and Dark Matter are the same/similar beings.]]
* Both of them are said to be made of the negative emotions in Pokémon's hearts, but there are a number of differences, such as appearance, and abilities. Here's this troper's theory on the differences; The Bittercold came about because Kyurem tried to accelerate Dark Matter's forming process in an attempt to get the wait over with. The end result is that Dark Matter was "stillborn", left half-formed, and so it wasn't sentient. Despite this, it still had it's mind control powers, but it used them purely on instinct, to disable anything it saw as a threat; hence the Winds of Despair. If we take a look at the cores of the [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Bittercold_Core_PMDGTI.png Bittercold]] and [[http://www.serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/00404.png Dark Matter]] You can see that they look almost exactly the same. So, the Bittercold is what you get when you try to wake Dark Matter up early.

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[[WMG: The protagonist has UsefulNotes/AspergersSyndrome.]]
The player character is an expy of [[Creator/SatoshiTajiri the Pokemon franchise creator]], so why not?

[[WMG: The protagonist in Super is the same one from GtI]]
* Following the WMG above that protagonist in GtI doesn't return and they don't have amnesia. They might prefer to stay in human world. The protagonist only return to save the world again, but they get amnesia this time.
* [[spoiler: Hydregion seems to be familiar with you.]]

[[WMG: The Bittercold and Dark Matter are the same/similar beings.]]
* Both of them are said to be made of the negative emotions in Pokémon's hearts, but there are a number of differences, such as appearance, and abilities. Here's this troper's theory on the differences; The Bittercold came about because Kyurem tried to accelerate Dark Matter's forming process in an attempt to get the wait over with. The end result is that Dark Matter was "stillborn", left half-formed, and so it wasn't sentient. Despite this, it still had it's mind control powers, but it used them purely on instinct, to disable anything it saw as a threat; hence the Winds of Despair. If we take a look at the cores of the [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Bittercold_Core_PMDGTI.png Bittercold]] and [[http://www.serebii.net/supermysterydungeon/00404.png Dark Matter]] You can see that they look almost exactly the same. So, the Bittercold is what you get when you try to wake Dark Matter up early.

[[WMG: It's unlikely Dark Matter is really, truly dead.]]
* You can't kill the embodiment of evil that easily, after all. It's quite possible the consciousness and mind of the current version of the incarnation of the darkness of sentient beings was obliterated by the Partner's acceptance of it, but the essence of the entity is likely to re-manifest whenever the evil residing in Pokemon's hearts and souls surges again. Building on above WMGs suggesting the Bittercold and Dark Matter are possibly different incarnations of the same being, whenever it returns it may look, act and think differently but it's still the same thing returned from the Void. It would take either purging all sentient life of darkness and malevolence (which would be bad news for the concept of [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill free will]]) or convincing ALL sentient beings to accept the existence of evil, at least in the Mystery Dungeon universe(s) if not the whole Pokemon multiverse, to finally get rid of it for good. It's ''hard'' to subvert AsLongAsThereIsEvil, sadly.

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[[WMG: The protagonist in PKD universe is [[VideoGame/MetalGear Solid Snale]].]]
* Solid Snake is a codename used for extremely-skilled soldiers who excel in stealth and exploration. And the protagonist in PMD is a stealthy tactical fighter. This might link in Metal Gear properties in PMD games.

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[[WMG: The player fought [[VideoGame/PokemonColosseum Shadow]] [[VideoGame/PokemonXD Pokemon]] at some point]]
Some of the Mons you fight within the game are actually Shadow Pokemon corrupted by someone (or some''thing'') somewhere for whatever reason. These are the ones that show no remorse and will mercilessly slaughter or otherwise harm anything and anyone who gets in their way (whatever "their way" even means) i.e. a non-Shadow acting the same way would be an instant CM.

But why don't any of them use Shadow Moves, you might ask? Well I propose that who- or whatever is corrupting them decided that, instead of changing their type and overpowering their moves, they would destroy or at least shut down the Mon's sense of morality ('cause if [[HonorBeforeReason those damn moral codes]] [[LawfulStupid hold you back]], then how 'bout we just not give a shit about them?) and let 'em hurt people [[ForTheEvulz for shits and giggles]]. Will purifying fix this? I dunno, I've never tried it.

In fact, this could be why [[spoiler:Darkrai is so horrible in this continuity, unlike in any of the others]].



[[WMG: These Pokemon are more evolved then their main game counterparts]]
Our meaning of evolved, not the metamorphosis kind in the series. They're sapient for one thing. They don't appear to follow any animal instincts like the main game Pokemon. They don't hunt and they all appear to be either herbivores or omnivores. They naturally get along with other Pokemon no matter the species or gender. They have a better sense of the world then most Pokemon in the game continuity and they can create buildings. Due to the lack of exposure to humans and human things however, they still don't understand certain things, such as potions or computers.


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[[WMG: The player fought [[VideoGame/PokemonColosseum Shadow]] [[VideoGame/PokemonXD Pokemon]] at some point]]
Some of the Mons you fight within the game are actually Shadow Pokemon corrupted by someone (or some''thing'') somewhere for whatever reason. These are the ones that show no remorse and will mercilessly slaughter or otherwise harm anything and anyone who gets in their way (whatever "their way" even means) i.e. a non-Shadow acting the same way would be an instant CM.

But why don't any of them use Shadow Moves, you might ask? Well I propose that who- or whatever is corrupting them decided that, instead of changing their type and overpowering their moves, they would destroy or at least shut down the Mon's sense of morality ('cause if [[HonorBeforeReason those damn moral codes]] [[LawfulStupid hold you back]], then how 'bout we just not give a shit about them?) and let 'em hurt people [[ForTheEvulz for shits and giggles]]. Will purifying fix this? I dunno, I've never tried it.

In fact, this could be why [[spoiler:Darkrai is so horrible in this continuity, unlike in any of the others]].


[[WMG: These Pokemon are more evolved then their main game counterparts]]
Our meaning of evolved, not the metamorphosis kind in the series. They're sapient for one thing. They don't appear to follow any animal instincts like the main game Pokemon. They don't hunt and they all appear to be either herbivores or omnivores. They naturally get along with other Pokemon no matter the species or gender. They have a better sense of the world then most Pokemon in the game continuity and they can create buildings. Due to the lack of exposure to humans and human things however, they still don't understand certain things, such as potions or computers.

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[[WMG: Super will try to unite the previous PMD game into a single continuity]]
* Specifically, the Rescue Team and The Explorer. The map looked familiar.
** The Water Continent looks like the one from Gates to Infinity.
* Confirmed! Several characters make cameos, too.

[[WMG: In Super, it will be the partner that disappear in the end]]
To break the trend.
* [[spoiler: confirmed]]

[[WMG: Possible starter pokemon for the fourth Mystery Dungeons and why]]
* All the starter Pokemon from the normal games: It's kind of obvious.
* Zorua: EnsembleDarkhorse.
* Timburr: Decent stats.
* Mienfoo: Female counterpart for Timburr.
* Woobat: Type diversity.
* Audino: RuleOfFunny.
* Deino: RuleOfCool.
* Litwick: Type diversity.
** Confirmed for the starter Pokemon, while the rest seemly jossed by Super. Still possible as DLC (or for the future games).

[[WMG: Xerneas and Yveltal will both be important in the main game of the next Mystery Dungeon game.]]
How so? Simple. Xerneas is known as the Life Pokemon. Yveltal is known as the Death/[[{{Bowdlerise}} Destruction]] Pokemon. Obviously, Yveltal will plan to KillEmAll and Xerneas will want to not allow that. Therefore, he will call the main character to the Pokemon World and they will help him fight Yveltal.
* With the plot 'Pokemon turned to stone' I think we can just wait to see if this confirmed.
* Confirmed.

[[WMG: In the next Mystery Dungeon game, a kindly mentor type character will turn out to be a villain.]]
They may or may not turn out to be TheDragon or the BigBad. It might be a potential PlayerPunch if the player and his/her partner has bonded with the mentor.
* Don't they already played it twice with Armaldo and Dusknoir?
* Confirmed as in Super.

[[WMG: The first two Mystery Dungeon games are in the same world; just in different lands, i.e. regions.]]
I figured this out like this: In ''Sky'', at the start of Special Episode 4, it says ''in the land on the eastern horizon...''. In Special Episode 2, there is an Eastern Cave as a dungeon. Now, in PMD1, there is a Western Cave. They could both be taking place at similar times, however PMD1 is in the land on the western horizon, while PMD2 is in the land on the eastern horizon. See?
* Confirmed with Super Mystery Dungeon. Also includes Gates.

[[WMG: Mystery Dungeon Red/Blue and Explorers Time/Darkness/Sky are intertwined loosely]]
This builds on a few of the other WMG's here, but I'll make this it's own. The events of the first and second games are loosely connected together. The Gardevoir you rescue in Red/Blue is the Gardevoir in Team Charm of Explorers, and along the way to this she also teamed up with Team Meanies' Medicham, who disbanded the team after Gengar had stopped working together with them. The Wigglytuff in Red/Blue is Explorers Wigglytuff's mother. Grovyle is the player after time had stopped, (This one is debatable as you'd need to be Treecko in Red/Blue) and bands up with the Player of Explorers before he turns into a Pokémon. The reason he does so is not only to reverse time, but to also rescue his Red/Blue partner after he was trapped in time. There's also the WMG about the Western/Eastern cave. Discuss the connections you find.
* Both ACT and Charm are mentioned in Super, so seemingly Confirmed.



[[WMG: In Super, sixth gen pokemon related-to-dream will be a villain]]
* At the very least, they will be important to the plot. Let's follow the pattern : There are Gengar, Drowzee and Darkrai, and then Munna.
** Alternatively, it would be random pokemon who appeared in dreams, like Gardevoir and Hydregion.
* Jossed

[[WMG:In Super, the protagonist will disappear at the end...]]
...because it was AllJustADream
* Taken from other WMG: the protagonist is in coma and the entire game is their DyingDream
* Alternatively, the protagonist itself is a dream, like Tidus.

...for no reason, just like in GtI
* Human was simply summoned to solve the problems. Once they did, they will be sent back.
** There will be a plot to bring the main character back, similar to GtI.

... the human was KilledOffForReal
* Alternatively, it would be DisneyDeath.
* Bonus point if it was because a HeroicSacrifice.
* Jossed

[[WMG: In Super, the problem is caused by human]]
* Rescue team had no villains. Explorers plot was caused by Darkrai, a Pokemon. GtI was caused by Bittercold, which is not a Pokemon. There are no human villains before.
* To add the twist, the villain is actually [[spoiler:You]]
** [[spoiler:You are actually a human villain, but managed to be defeated. As a result, you get amnesia and turned into Pokemon]]. Plus, it makes a nice call back to the Rescue Team and Explorers. [[spoiler:In rescue team you are wrongly accused as causing the disaster. Imagine if it turned out you are really the cause this time. It also draws a comparison with Darkrai, who turned good after amnesia]].
** It also explained how the protagonist would disappear in the end. Maybe [[spoiler: RedemptionEqualsDeath?]]
* Jossed, sadly.



[[WMG: Sixth gen pokemon related-to-dream will be a villain]]
* At the very least, they will be important to the plot. Let's follow the pattern : There are Gengar, Drowzee and Darkrai, and then Munna.
** Alternatively, it would be random pokemon who appeared in dreams, like Gardevoir and Hydregion.
* Jossed

[[WMG: Super will try to unite the previous PMD game into a single continuity]]
* Specifically, the Rescue Team and The Explorer. The map looked familiar.
** The Water Continent looks like the one from Gates to Infinity.
* Confirmed! Several characters make cameos, too.

[[WMG: The protagonist will disappear at the end...]]
...because it was AllJustADream
* Taken from other WMG: the protagonist is in coma and the entire game is their DyingDream
* Alternatively, the protagonist itself is a dream, like Tidus.

...for no reason, just like in GtI
* Human was simply summoned to solve the problems. Once they did, they will be sent back.
** There will be a plot to bring the main character back, similar to GtI.

... the human was KilledOffForReal
* Alternatively, it would be DisneyDeath.
* Bonus point if it was because a HeroicSacrifice.

[[WMG: This time, it will be the partner that disappear in the end]]
To break the trend.
* [[spoiler: confirmed]]

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[[WMG: Sixth gen pokemon related-to-dream will be a villain]]
* At the very least, they will be important to the plot. Let's follow the pattern : There are Gengar, Drowzee and Darkrai, and then Munna.
** Alternatively, it would be random pokemon who appeared in dreams, like Gardevoir and Hydregion.
* Jossed

[[WMG: Super will try to unite the previous PMD game into a single continuity]]
* Specifically, the Rescue Team and The Explorer. The map looked familiar.
** The Water Continent looks like the one from Gates to Infinity.
* Confirmed! Several characters make cameos, too.

[[WMG: The protagonist will disappear at the end...]]
...because it was AllJustADream
* Taken from other WMG: the protagonist is in coma and the entire game is their DyingDream
* Alternatively, the protagonist itself is a dream, like Tidus.

...for no reason, just like in GtI
* Human was simply summoned to solve the problems. Once they did, they will be sent back.
** There will be a plot to bring the main character back, similar to GtI.

... the human was KilledOffForReal
* Alternatively, it would be DisneyDeath.
* Bonus point if it was because a HeroicSacrifice.

[[WMG: This time, it will be the partner that disappear in the end]]
To break the trend.
* [[spoiler: confirmed]]



[[WMG: The problem is caused by human]]
* Rescue team had no villains. Explorers plot was caused by Darkrai, a Pokemon. GtI was caused by Bittercold, which is not a Pokemon. There are no human villains before.
* To add the twist, the villain is actually [[spoiler:You]]
** [[spoiler:You are actually a human villain, but managed to be defeated. As a result, you get amnesia and turned into Pokemon]]. Plus, it makes a nice call back to the Rescue Team and Explorers. [[spoiler:In rescue team you are wrongly accused as causing the disaster. Imagine if it turned out you are really the cause this time. It also draws a comparison with Darkrai, who turned good after amnesia]].
** It also explained how the protagonist would disappear in the end. Maybe [[spoiler: RedemptionEqualsDeath?]]
* Jossed, sadly.



[[WMG: Possible starter pokemon for the fourth Mystery Dungeons and why]]
* All the starter Pokemon from the normal games: It's kind of obvious.
* Zorua: EnsembleDarkhorse.
* Timburr: Decent stats.
* Mienfoo: Female counterpart for Timburr.
* Woobat: Type diversity.
* Audino: RuleOfFunny.
* Deino: RuleOfCool.
* Litwick: Type diversity.
** Confirmed for the starter Pokemon, while the rest seemly jossed by Super. Still possible as DLC (or for the future games).



[[WMG: Xerneas and Yveltal will both be important in the main game of the next Mystery Dungeon game.]]
How so? Simple. Xerneas is known as the Life Pokemon. Yveltal is known as the Death/[[{{Bowdlerise}} Destruction]] Pokemon. Obviously, Yveltal will plan to KillEmAll and Xerneas will want to not allow that. Therefore, he will call the main character to the Pokemon World and they will help him fight Yveltal.
* With the plot 'Pokemon turned to stone' I think we can just wait to see if this confirmed.

[[WMG: In the next Mystery Dungeon game, a kindly mentor type character will turn out to be a villain.]]
They may or may not turn out to be TheDragon or the BigBad. It might be a potential PlayerPunch if the player and his/her partner has bonded with the mentor.
* Don't they already played it twice with Armaldo and Dusknoir?

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[[WMG: Xerneas and Yveltal will both be important in the main game of the next Mystery Dungeon game.]]
How so? Simple. Xerneas is known as the Life Pokemon. Yveltal is known as the Death/[[{{Bowdlerise}} Destruction]] Pokemon. Obviously, Yveltal will plan to KillEmAll and Xerneas will want to not allow that. Therefore, he will call the main character to the Pokemon World and they will help him fight Yveltal.
* With the plot 'Pokemon turned to stone' I think we can just wait to see if this confirmed.

[[WMG: In the next Mystery Dungeon game, a kindly mentor type character will turn out to be a villain.]]
They may or may not turn out to be TheDragon or the BigBad. It might be a potential PlayerPunch if the player and his/her partner has bonded with the mentor.
* Don't they already played it twice with Armaldo and Dusknoir?



[[WMG: The first two Mystery Dungeon games are in the same world; just in different lands, i.e. regions.]]
I figured this out like this: In ''Sky'', at the start of Special Episode 4, it says ''in the land on the eastern horizon...''. In Special Episode 2, there is an Eastern Cave as a dungeon. Now, in PMD1, there is a Western Cave. They could both be taking place at similar times, however PMD1 is in the land on the western horizon, while PMD2 is in the land on the eastern horizon. See?
* Confirmed with Super Mystery Dungeon. Also includes Gates.

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[[WMG: The first two Mystery Dungeon games are in the same world; just in different lands, i.e. regions.]]
I figured this out like this: In ''Sky'', at the start of Special Episode 4, it says ''in the land on the eastern horizon...''. In Special Episode 2, there is an Eastern Cave as a dungeon. Now, in PMD1, there is a Western Cave. They could both be taking place at similar times, however PMD1 is in the land on the western horizon, while PMD2 is in the land on the eastern horizon. See?
* Confirmed with Super Mystery Dungeon. Also includes Gates.



[[WMG: Mystery Dungeon Red/Blue and Explorers Time/Darkness/Sky are intertwined loosely]]
This builds on a few of the other WMG's here, but I'll make this it's own. The events of the first and second games are loosely connected together. The Gardevoir you rescue in Red/Blue is the Gardevoir in Team Charm of Explorers, and along the way to this she also teamed up with Team Meanies' Medicham, who disbanded the team after Gengar had stopped working together with them. The Wigglytuff in Red/Blue is Explorers Wigglytuff's mother. Grovyle is the player after time had stopped, (This one is debatable as you'd need to be Treecko in Red/Blue) and bands up with the Player of Explorers before he turns into a Pokémon. The reason he does so is not only to reverse time, but to also rescue his Red/Blue partner after he was trapped in time. There's also the WMG about the Western/Eastern cave. Discuss the connections you find.
* Both ACT and Charm are mentioned in Super, so seemingly Confirmed.

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[[WMG: Mystery Dungeon Red/Blue and Explorers Time/Darkness/Sky are intertwined loosely]]
This builds on a few of the other WMG's here, but I'll make this it's own. The events of the first and second games are loosely connected together. The Gardevoir you rescue in Red/Blue is the Gardevoir in Team Charm of Explorers, and along the way to this she also teamed up with Team Meanies' Medicham, who disbanded the team after Gengar had stopped working together with them. The Wigglytuff in Red/Blue is Explorers Wigglytuff's mother. Grovyle is the player after time had stopped, (This one is debatable as you'd need to be Treecko in Red/Blue) and bands up with the Player of Explorers before he turns into a Pokémon. The reason he does so is not only to reverse time, but to also rescue his Red/Blue partner after he was trapped in time. There's also the WMG about the Western/Eastern cave. Discuss the connections you find.
* Both ACT and Charm are mentioned in Super, so seemingly Confirmed.







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[[WMG:Theories regarding Mega Evolution in the Mystery Dungeon 'verse.]]
In Pokemon X and Y, Mega Evolution is achieved through a strong bond between a Trainer holding a Keystone and a Pokemon with a Mega Stone. Naturally, in a world with no Trainers, things would have to be done a little differently.
* Since there are no Trainers, there are no Keystones; the Mega Stone is the only artifact required.
* Like in the core series, Mega Evolution can only happen in battle, and it can only occur here when the Pokemon is Mega Evolving for the sake of someone they care deeply for, literally invoking ThePowerOfFriendship[=/=][[ThePowerOfLove Love]].
** [[SmartGuy Or they simply have to be smart enough to use these things]], considering IQ substitutes friendship in the evolutions.
* Alternatively, you're the human. It just worked through ThePowerOfFriendship anyway.
* Confirmed for different mechanic, Jossed for the rest
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[[WMG: In the next Pokemon Mystery Dungeon game, there will be...]]
* [[CaptainObvious Pokemon]] from VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite.
* A BigBad that is an {{Expy}} of N, with his allies being of Pokemon that follow him.
* Having two rival teams out of your guild, representing Cheren and Bianca. One will be strong against the protagonist, the other will be weak against protagonist.
* Somehow become darker than the second game.

Any more ideas or if you wish to disprove me? Just add them in.
* Rather than an {{Expy}}, N could himself be the villain.
** Why would N/N-Expy be an antagonist? PMD ''already'' takes place where there aren't any humans. I guess it could work if the plot is to figure out what happened to the humans/reunite with them.
* It will turn out Genesect is behind it all, whatever "it" is.
* However, I'd like to add the suggestion that the villain could be human. Think about it. Be manipulating things from the human world and sending his Pokemon, serving as PsychoRangers to the actual Guild the player is a part of, TheDragon, his strongest Pokémon, the fully evolved starter Pokémon with an elemental advantage over yours, acting as the BigBad until his master is revealed, to do his plans in his stead, only coming to the Pokémon World after his Pokémon are defeated and arrested, taking on Pokémon form for the final battle. And in the end, it's revealed he's actually TheRival from the human world to the hero.
** Or this human could be the one responsible for the human-less world, in order to make a EvilPlan to conquer the world. The human's name? [[spoiler:[[OhCrap Ghetsis]].]]
** I agree, though think it would be better if the fully-evolved start were the final boss. Then when it's defeated, the rival gets cowardly since he has no more Pokemon to hide behind.
*** The only logical reason that I'd think Ghetsis would be responsible for the fact that humans aren't in the Mystery Dungeon world is because Ghetsis' plans worked out and the Mystery Dungeon world is What N was hoping to create while he got the human world. And being perfectly honest, I don't believe this because I don't think that Ghetsis is the complete monster like everyone says he is.
*** [[spoiler: And then I played Pokemon Black and White 2...]]

[[WMG: Possible starter pokemon for the fourth Mystery Dungeons and why]]
* All the starter Pokemon from the normal games: It's kind of obvious.
* Zorua: EnsembleDarkhorse.
* Timburr: Decent stats.
* Mienfoo: Female counterpart for Timburr.
* Woobat: Type diversity.
* Audino: RuleOfFunny.
* Deino: RuleOfCool.
* Litwick: Type diversity.
** Confirmed for the starter Pokemon, while the rest seemly jossed by Super. Still possible as DLC (or for the future games).

[[WMG: One or more of the kami trio will be the villain/s of the next games]]
It would probably help their reputation if they were actual, cool villains.
* Maybe both Tornadus and Thundurus could be villains. Then a big part of the plot could be to go find Landorus and stop them...

[[WMG: There will be trainers you have to run away from in one of the games.]]
If you get caught, you have to fight all their pokémon. If they capture you, you have to play a minigame to break out of the pokéball.
* Interesting idea, but it would never happen, considering that the Dungeon games take place in a human-less world.

[[WMG: [=PMD4=] starter guesses, courtesy of {{@/Bwburke94}}]]

Water: Squirtle, Totodile, Mudkip, Piplup, Oshawott, Panpour[[note]]female only[[/note]]

Grass: Bulbasaur, Chikorita, Treecko, Turtwig, Snivy, Pansage[[note]]female only[[/note]]

Fire: Charmander, Cyndaquil, Torchic, Chimchar, Tepig, Pansear[[note]]female only[[/note]]

Electric: Pikachu, Blitzle[[note]]male only[[/note]]

Normal: Eevee, Meowth[[note]]male only[[/note]], Minccino[[note]]female only[[/note]]

Fighting: Machop[[note]]male only[[/note]], Riolu[[note]]male only[[/note]]

Ground: Cubone[[note]]female only[[/note]], Phanpy[[note]]male only[[/note]], Drilbur[[note]]male only[[/note]]

Dark: Zorua

Psychic: Munna[[note]]female only[[/note]]

Flying: Starly[[note]]male only]], Pidove[[note]]female only[[/note]]

* Jossed for Gates to Infinity (which only had Gen V mons and Pikachu) and Super.

[[WMG: Xerneas and Yveltal will both be important in the main game of the next Mystery Dungeon game.]]
How so? Simple. Xerneas is known as the Life Pokemon. Yveltal is known as the Death/[[{{Bowdlerise}} Destruction]] Pokemon. Obviously, Yveltal will plan to KillEmAll and Xerneas will want to not allow that. Therefore, he will call the main character to the Pokemon World and they will help him fight Yveltal.
* With the plot 'Pokemon turned to stone' I think we can just wait to see if this confirmed.

[[WMG: In the next Mystery Dungeon game, a kindly mentor type character will turn out to be a villain.]]
They may or may not turn out to be TheDragon or the BigBad. It might be a potential PlayerPunch if the player and his/her partner has bonded with the mentor.
* Don't they already played it twice with Armaldo and Dusknoir?

[[WMG: A future game will feature an EvilCounterpart of TheHero.]]
Like you, they were summoned to the Pokemon world in order to save it from some terrible threat. And like you, they find out near the end of their journey that once they've completed their task, they'll be sent back home, leaving behind their partner and all the other friends they've made.

They didn't take the news well. Unwilling to complete their mission if it means losing everything they've gained there, they pull a FaceHeelTurn and rage against whatever they see as responsible for their plight. Maybe they become TheDragon to the BigBad, or overthrow them and rebel against the forces that want to send them back. This is where ''your'' hero comes in, as they're summoned in order to deal with this new threat.
* That's.....Actually a really cool idea! It would probably end up leading to some kind of [[AnAesop Aesop]], likely concerning friendship stuff. Then again, wouldn't going on a [[RageAgainsttheHeavens rage against the forces that brought them here]] [[NiceJobBreakingitHero lead to them]] [[MyGodWhathaveIDone ending up]] [[TearJerker away from said friends and such?]]

[[WMG: Next PMD title will be based on VideoGame/PokkenTournament.]]
Next PMD title will not be just a roguelike title; it will be a BeatEmUp FightingGame running a ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament'' engine and inspired by ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}}'''s Scenario Modes. It will still be [[SpiritualAdaptation based off]] VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon games and have some elements borrowed from them. However, tweaks will be imposed:
* Explorer Team Fights and NPC Duels could be made into missions in which you need to perform certain requirements, like beating a super-fast enemy, defeating the enemy while both fighters are poisoned, etc. Some popular cult classics like Pichu Brothers and Team Charm will appear in Explorer Team Fights.
* There will be a new guild "Pokkén Force", an expy of Tekken Force which protects the Mystery Dungeons and you must fight them over to uncover the dungeons.
* The player will start out without partners but gains one through progress. A MissionControl will be guiding the player throughout the game, but [[FaceHeelTurn it will show up and fight you in certain points of the game]]. Somewhat similar to ''[[VideoGame/MetalGear1 MSX2 Metal Gear]]''.
* Some Support Pokémon will show up as bosses in this PMD mode's NPC Duels, such as Espeon and Umbreon based on those from ''[[VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonGatesToInfinity Gates to Infinity]]''.

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[[WMG: The dungeon-dwelling Kecleon take over Monster Houses for their shops.]]
While finding items in mystery dungeons is pretty easy, the ''best'' stuff tends to be inside Monster Houses. The Kecleon are aware of this, so they specifically seek out Monster Houses. When they find one, they summon their buddies, slaughter everyone inside, then gather up the goods and set up shop. That's why Kecleon are so strong and how they're able to instantly call in help if any adventurers try to swipe ''their'' stuff.

[[WMG: Humans are alive and well, but the Pokémon towns are far away from them.]]
Apparently humans very rarely visit, if ever.
* I always thought this was true as well. It explains why all the Pokémon know what a human is, even though you don't actually see any in game.

[[WMG: It is taboo to mention someone's real name in public.]]
The Pokemon do have names besides their species names, but for some reason there's a strong taboo against using them in public. Not even the confusion of having, say, two Kecleon running a shop or [[spoiler:a pair of Ursaring]] is enough to overcome it. The Pokemon that join your team signal their working relationship with and trust in you by telling you their real names, and Alakazam, Chatot, and so on [[GameplayAndStorySegregation probably refer to the hero and partner by their species names]]. The partner is forward enough to ask the hero's name at the beginning as they can tell the hero's extremely dazed and probably needs all the bits of memory they can get.
* Perhaps using a given name is an extremely informal method of address, used primarily for close friends and those of lower status.

[[WMG: All Pokemon have unique names; the games simply omit them because of NominalImportance.]]
The only Pokemon whose names ''matter'' are the ones the player inputs themselves: The Hero, his/her Partner, and everyone they recruit. Everyone else ''has'' names; the game simply doesn't use them because ''this'' story is ultimately all about the hero and their friends. Wigglytuff's name isn't mentioned because the Guild's called "The Wigglytuff Guild", and revealing his real name would just confuse the target audience, [[SarcasmMode wouldn't it]]? Same goes for Chatot, Bidoof, Sunflora and the rest: it's easier to just address them by ''what'' they are and [[TheLawOfConservationOfDetail conserve details]] rather than juggle extra names. Plus, this lets any fans who ''really'' care about such details to invent their own, putting that much more of a personal spin on ''their'' version of the story.
* I support this. It would be difficult for the new player who is unfamiliar with the new gen of Pokemon to remember their names, especially if they had their own nickname.

[[WMG: Pokemon believe in the [[IKnowYourTrueName Power of Names]], and thus only reveal their "real" name to close allies (unless they are a transformed human ignorant of this view)]]
As seen on the Black and White WMG page.

[[WMG: Palkia is responsible for creating Mystery Dungeons.]]
None of the Pokemon seem to know or even care why the same dungeon is different every single time you go inside. The existence of Dialga and Palkia has also been shown to be a little less than common knowledge. It's reasonable that Palkia could use its powers over the fabric of space to keep these dungeons constantly rearranging themselves. The Pokemon inside these dungeons could even be attacking you as a side effect of being exposed to these powers. When you beat the crap out of one, sometimes you knock enough sense into it to make it want to join you.

[[WMG: Berries are the Pokemon-world equivalent of energy drinks.]]
Ever wondered why they cause immediate rejuvenation? This is made even more evident in the first TV special, where they cause whoever eats them to suddenly perk up or become hyperactive.

[[WMG: The ''Adventure Squad'' trio of games are LighterAndSofter as part of a BatmanGambit by the developers.]]
The ''Explorers'' games [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar got a LOT past the radar]], so just in case the MoralGuardians happened to catch wind of that, the ''Adventure Squad'' games are LighterAndSofter by comparison. This way, the MoralGuardians won't find anything objectionable and will dismiss the series as "kiddie fluff"... at which point the ''[[FourIsDeath fourth games]]'' will spring the SurpriseCreepy on any players lured into a false sense of comfort by the third trio.
* Confirmed, sort of... so the fifth game will be LighterAndSofter again?
** Considering the plot is Pokemon turned to stone, I think the pattern is broke.
** The Japanese website says that Super Mystery Dungeon takes place in a HighSchoolAU, or at least a school. Whether or not this means the game OVERALL is LighterAndSofter in the same way that Persona 4, a murder mystery is, is unknown.

[[WMG: The player character is asleep in a hospital on life support. The reason he/she stayed is because he/she doesn't [[AllJustADream want to wake up]].]]
* Why all these horrible {{WMG}}s? Why does everybody want to think of the worst?!
** Agreed! What is WITH you people?! [[TrueArtIsAngsty Sadly, I get the feeling everyone is just going to ignore us and carry on with these ridiculously tragic WMGs.]]

[[WMG: These Pokemon are more evolved then their main game counterparts]]
Our meaning of evolved, not the metamorphosis kind in the series. They're sapient for one thing. They don't appear to follow any animal instincts like the main game Pokemon. They don't hunt and they all appear to be either herbivores or omnivores. They naturally get along with other Pokemon no matter the species or gender. They have a better sense of the world then most Pokemon in the game continuity and they can create buildings. Due to the lack of exposure to humans and human things however, they still don't understand certain things, such as potions or computers.

[[WMG: The Pokemon aren't talking.]]
It's TranslationConvention. In [=PMD2=] though, you may or may not have been able to understand Grovyle when you were a human.
* Maybe in Poke-speech, but the player can understand them, so they ARE talking to each other at the very least.

[[WMG: The land of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon started off as an uplifting social experiment.]]
Considering how people exist in the BadFuture, people seem to still be around in some form. A group of scientists, interested in Pokemon's potential for intelligence, wanted to see how a truly independent Pokemon society would develop. The supposed ruins of human buildings are the human structures used for this experiment. Humans are no longer around as part of the experiment, and because centuries have passed since this experiment began. Artificial and resurrected Pokemon like Porygon are there to watch it progress. Legendaries decided to migrate here because it allows them to be respected as the Poke-gods that they rather than [[OlympusMons glorified super-pets.]] The wild Pokemon in the Monster Houses are un-uplifted Pokemon.

[[WMG: The Rescue/Exploration Team Badges provide a psychic link between teammates]]
The badges are made using super advanced junk Pokémon found that humans left behind. The badges provide a temporary psychic link that allows the rescue or exploration team to see what each other sees and share the same bag (which, by the way, is a small dimensional hole). The badge can also be used to teleport Pokémon out of dungeons, but only if they are not the leader. For that, an 'Escape Orb' is needed to provide more power. The badges can also teleport a team to certain relays across the continent, which is how you can get to places so fast. The regular series's gym badges are probably prototypes for this tech.

[[WMG: The one asking you the questions in the ''Explorers'' personality quiz is [[spoiler: Celebi]]]].
This game repeats the first game's "This is the portal that leads to the world only inhabited by Pokemon". In the first game it made sense, since you're from the human world, but in this game, you're from the future. However, you did enter a portal to go back in time: The Passage of Time!
* Um, yeah. This one's heavily hinted by the personality quiz music returning in a certain scene...
* Plus, this could explain why [[spoiler:Celebi seems to recognize you when Grovyle takes you to meet her]].
** So wait, the personality quiz is the time travelling rift? What, [[spoiler:Celebi]] set up everything?! (The Man Behind The Man Behind The Man?!)

[[WMG: The Mystery Dungeon Pokemon are descended from genetically altered Pokemon.]]
The land of Mystery Dungeon did have humans, but they all died out. Before that time, a group of scientists genetically altered their Pokemon to be much more intelligent, cooperate with each other, live in houses, and use money. Poke is the currency the humans used.

After the other humans found out about the genetically enhanced Pokemon, the scientists and Pokemon were driven from the land. They landed in Mystery Dungeon Land and colonized. The humans built the Friend Areas Power Plant and Decrepit Lab for themselves. They also built the beginnings of Pokemon Square.

Eventually, the humans died out. The Pokemon bred with the native Pokemon and created intelligent, competent Pokemon - the Mystery Dungeon Pokemon. The Max Elixirs, Proteins and TMs were created by the scientists and left behind. The Pokemon now live so well because they are so intelligent. Nowadays, nearly every Pokemon is related to the genetically altered Pokemon. Also, the gummis were a kind of fruit altered to enhance intelligence.
* So basically `The Secret of PokeNimh` ;D

[[WMG:You're an orphan with no friends.]]
That's why you don't care about your family in any game, and in the originals you didn't care about former friends or any connections. You're more than content with staying.
* World of talking animals and awesome adventures > School, homework, work, your boss/teacher, over-restrictive parents, annoying little brother, etc any day!
* But the player has ''no memory'' of his family or friends in the real world. Would you rather go to a world where it's a crapshoot whether or not you were accepted in life, or stay in a world where you already have friends, one of whom would be ''particularly'' distraught at you leaving?
* Probably not the case in Gti, which deliberately downplays this idea.





[[folder:Future games]]
[[WMG: In the next Pokemon Mystery Dungeon game, there will be...]]
* [[CaptainObvious Pokemon]] from VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite.
* A BigBad that is an {{Expy}} of N, with his allies being of Pokemon that follow him.
* Having two rival teams out of your guild, representing Cheren and Bianca. One will be strong against the protagonist, the other will be weak against protagonist.
* Somehow become darker than the second game.

Any more ideas or if you wish to disprove me? Just add them in.
* Rather than an {{Expy}}, N could himself be the villain.
** Why would N/N-Expy be an antagonist? PMD ''already'' takes place where there aren't any humans. I guess it could work if the plot is to figure out what happened to the humans/reunite with them.
* It will turn out Genesect is behind it all, whatever "it" is.
* However, I'd like to add the suggestion that the villain could be human. Think about it. Be manipulating things from the human world and sending his Pokemon, serving as PsychoRangers to the actual Guild the player is a part of, TheDragon, his strongest Pokémon, the fully evolved starter Pokémon with an elemental advantage over yours, acting as the BigBad until his master is revealed, to do his plans in his stead, only coming to the Pokémon World after his Pokémon are defeated and arrested, taking on Pokémon form for the final battle. And in the end, it's revealed he's actually TheRival from the human world to the hero.
** Or this human could be the one responsible for the human-less world, in order to make a EvilPlan to conquer the world. The human's name? [[spoiler:[[OhCrap Ghetsis]].]]
** I agree, though think it would be better if the fully-evolved start were the final boss. Then when it's defeated, the rival gets cowardly since he has no more Pokemon to hide behind.
*** The only logical reason that I'd think Ghetsis would be responsible for the fact that humans aren't in the Mystery Dungeon world is because Ghetsis' plans worked out and the Mystery Dungeon world is What N was hoping to create while he got the human world. And being perfectly honest, I don't believe this because I don't think that Ghetsis is the complete monster like everyone says he is.
*** [[spoiler: And then I played Pokemon Black and White 2...]]

[[WMG: Possible starter pokemon for the fourth Mystery Dungeons and why]]
* All the starter Pokemon from the normal games: It's kind of obvious.
* Zorua: EnsembleDarkhorse.
* Timburr: Decent stats.
* Mienfoo: Female counterpart for Timburr.
* Woobat: Type diversity.
* Audino: RuleOfFunny.
* Deino: RuleOfCool.
* Litwick: Type diversity.
** Confirmed for the starter Pokemon, while the rest seemly jossed by Super. Still possible as DLC (or for the future games).

[[WMG: One or more of the kami trio will be the villain/s of the next games]]
It would probably help their reputation if they were actual, cool villains.
* Maybe both Tornadus and Thundurus could be villains. Then a big part of the plot could be to go find Landorus and stop them...

[[WMG: There will be trainers you have to run away from in one of the games.]]
If you get caught, you have to fight all their pokémon. If they capture you, you have to play a minigame to break out of the pokéball.
* Interesting idea, but it would never happen, considering that the Dungeon games take place in a human-less world.

[[WMG: [=PMD4=] starter guesses, courtesy of {{@/Bwburke94}}]]

Water: Squirtle, Totodile, Mudkip, Piplup, Oshawott, Panpour[[note]]female only[[/note]]

Grass: Bulbasaur, Chikorita, Treecko, Turtwig, Snivy, Pansage[[note]]female only[[/note]]

Fire: Charmander, Cyndaquil, Torchic, Chimchar, Tepig, Pansear[[note]]female only[[/note]]

Electric: Pikachu, Blitzle[[note]]male only[[/note]]

Normal: Eevee, Meowth[[note]]male only[[/note]], Minccino[[note]]female only[[/note]]

Fighting: Machop[[note]]male only[[/note]], Riolu[[note]]male only[[/note]]

Ground: Cubone[[note]]female only[[/note]], Phanpy[[note]]male only[[/note]], Drilbur[[note]]male only[[/note]]

Dark: Zorua

Psychic: Munna[[note]]female only[[/note]]

Flying: Starly[[note]]male only]], Pidove[[note]]female only[[/note]]

* Jossed for Gates to Infinity (which only had Gen V mons and Pikachu) and Super.

[[WMG: Xerneas and Yveltal will both be important in the main game of the next Mystery Dungeon game.]]
How so? Simple. Xerneas is known as the Life Pokemon. Yveltal is known as the Death/[[{{Bowdlerise}} Destruction]] Pokemon. Obviously, Yveltal will plan to KillEmAll and Xerneas will want to not allow that. Therefore, he will call the main character to the Pokemon World and they will help him fight Yveltal.
* With the plot 'Pokemon turned to stone' I think we can just wait to see if this confirmed.

[[WMG: In the next Mystery Dungeon game, a kindly mentor type character will turn out to be a villain.]]
They may or may not turn out to be TheDragon or the BigBad. It might be a potential PlayerPunch if the player and his/her partner has bonded with the mentor.
* Don't they already played it twice with Armaldo and Dusknoir?

[[WMG: A future game will feature an EvilCounterpart of TheHero.]]
Like you, they were summoned to the Pokemon world in order to save it from some terrible threat. And like you, they find out near the end of their journey that once they've completed their task, they'll be sent back home, leaving behind their partner and all the other friends they've made.

They didn't take the news well. Unwilling to complete their mission if it means losing everything they've gained there, they pull a FaceHeelTurn and rage against whatever they see as responsible for their plight. Maybe they become TheDragon to the BigBad, or overthrow them and rebel against the forces that want to send them back. This is where ''your'' hero comes in, as they're summoned in order to deal with this new threat.
* That's.....Actually a really cool idea! It would probably end up leading to some kind of [[AnAesop Aesop]], likely concerning friendship stuff. Then again, wouldn't going on a [[RageAgainsttheHeavens rage against the forces that brought them here]] [[NiceJobBreakingitHero lead to them]] [[MyGodWhathaveIDone ending up]] [[TearJerker away from said friends and such?]]

[[WMG: Next PMD title will be based on VideoGame/PokkenTournament.]]
Next PMD title will not be just a roguelike title; it will be a BeatEmUp FightingGame running a ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament'' engine and inspired by ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}}'''s Scenario Modes. It will still be [[SpiritualAdaptation based off]] VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon games and have some elements borrowed from them. However, tweaks will be imposed:
* Explorer Team Fights and NPC Duels could be made into missions in which you need to perform certain requirements, like beating a super-fast enemy, defeating the enemy while both fighters are poisoned, etc. Some popular cult classics like Pichu Brothers and Team Charm will appear in Explorer Team Fights.
* There will be a new guild "Pokkén Force", an expy of Tekken Force which protects the Mystery Dungeons and you must fight them over to uncover the dungeons.
* The player will start out without partners but gains one through progress. A MissionControl will be guiding the player throughout the game, but [[FaceHeelTurn it will show up and fight you in certain points of the game]]. Somewhat similar to ''[[VideoGame/MetalGear1 MSX2 Metal Gear]]''.
* Some Support Pokémon will show up as bosses in this PMD mode's NPC Duels, such as Espeon and Umbreon based on those from ''[[VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonGatesToInfinity Gates to Infinity]]''.

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[[folder: Crossover with other Pokemon/non
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon game, there will be...]]
* [[CaptainObvious Pokemon]] from VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite.
* A BigBad that is an {{Expy}} of N, with his allies being of Pokemon that follow him.
* Having two rival teams out of your guild, representing Cheren and Bianca. One will be strong against the protagonist, the other will be weak against protagonist.
* Somehow become darker than the second game.

Any more ideas or if you wish to disprove me? Just add them in.
* Rather than an {{Expy}}, N could himself be the villain.
** Why would N/N-Expy be an antagonist? PMD ''already'' takes place where there aren't any humans. I guess it could work if the plot is to figure out what happened to the humans/reunite with them.
*
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[[WMG: The mons are [[{{Rifts}} M.D.C creatures]]]]
It will turn out Genesect is behind it all, whatever "it" is.
* However, I'd like to add the suggestion that the villain could be human. Think about it. Be manipulating
explains how they can survive things from the human world and sending his Pokemon, serving as PsychoRangers to the actual Guild the player is a part of, TheDragon, his strongest Pokémon, the fully evolved starter Pokémon with an elemental advantage over yours, acting as the BigBad until his master is revealed, to do his plans in his stead, only coming to the Pokémon World after his Pokémon are defeated and arrested, taking on Pokémon form for the final battle. And in the end, it's revealed he's actually TheRival from the human world to the hero.
** Or this human could be the one responsible for the human-less world, in order to make a EvilPlan to conquer the world. The human's name? [[spoiler:[[OhCrap Ghetsis]].]]
** I agree, though think it would be better if the fully-evolved start were the final boss. Then when it's defeated, the rival gets cowardly since he has no more Pokemon to hide behind.
*** The only logical reason
that I'd think Ghetsis would be responsible for the fact that humans aren't in the Mystery Dungeon world is because Ghetsis' plans worked out and the Mystery Dungeon world is What N was hoping to create while he got the human world. And being perfectly honest, I don't believe this because I don't think that Ghetsis is the complete monster like everyone says he is.
*** [[spoiler: And then I played Pokemon Black and White 2...]]

[[WMG: Possible starter pokemon for the fourth Mystery Dungeons and why]]
* All the starter Pokemon from the
can kill a normal games: It's kind of obvious.
* Zorua: EnsembleDarkhorse.
* Timburr: Decent stats.
* Mienfoo: Female counterpart for Timburr.
* Woobat: Type diversity.
* Audino: RuleOfFunny.
* Deino: RuleOfCool.
* Litwick: Type diversity.
** Confirmed for the starter Pokemon, while the rest seemly jossed by Super. Still possible as DLC (or for the future games).

[[WMG: One or more of the kami trio will be the villain/s of the next games]]
It would probably help their reputation if they were actual, cool villains.
* Maybe both Tornadus and Thundurus could be villains. Then a big part of the plot could be to go find Landorus and stop them...

[[WMG: There will be trainers you have to run away from in one of the games.]]
If you get caught, you have to fight all their pokémon. If they capture you, you have to play a minigame to break out of the pokéball.
* Interesting idea, but it would never happen, considering that the Dungeon games take place in a human-less world.

[[WMG: [=PMD4=] starter guesses, courtesy of {{@/Bwburke94}}]]

Water: Squirtle, Totodile, Mudkip, Piplup, Oshawott, Panpour[[note]]female only[[/note]]

Grass: Bulbasaur, Chikorita, Treecko, Turtwig, Snivy, Pansage[[note]]female only[[/note]]

Fire: Charmander, Cyndaquil, Torchic, Chimchar, Tepig, Pansear[[note]]female only[[/note]]

Electric: Pikachu, Blitzle[[note]]male only[[/note]]

Normal: Eevee, Meowth[[note]]male only[[/note]], Minccino[[note]]female only[[/note]]

Fighting: Machop[[note]]male only[[/note]], Riolu[[note]]male only[[/note]]

Ground: Cubone[[note]]female only[[/note]], Phanpy[[note]]male only[[/note]], Drilbur[[note]]male only[[/note]]

Dark: Zorua

Psychic: Munna[[note]]female only[[/note]]

Flying: Starly[[note]]male only]], Pidove[[note]]female only[[/note]]

* Jossed for Gates to Infinity (which only had Gen V mons and Pikachu) and Super.

[[WMG: Xerneas and Yveltal will both be important in the main game of the next Mystery Dungeon game.]]
How so? Simple. Xerneas is known as the Life Pokemon. Yveltal is known as the Death/[[{{Bowdlerise}} Destruction]] Pokemon. Obviously, Yveltal will plan to KillEmAll and Xerneas will want to not allow that. Therefore, he will call the main character to the Pokemon World and they will help him fight Yveltal.
* With the plot 'Pokemon turned to stone' I think we can just wait to see if this confirmed.

[[WMG: In the next Mystery Dungeon game, a kindly mentor type character will turn out to be a villain.]]
They may or may not turn out to be TheDragon or the BigBad. It might be a potential PlayerPunch if the player and his/her partner has bonded with the mentor.
* Don't they already played it twice with Armaldo and Dusknoir?

[[WMG: A future game will feature an EvilCounterpart of TheHero.]]
Like you, they were summoned to the Pokemon world in order to save it from some terrible threat. And like you, they find out near the end of their journey that once they've completed their task, they'll be sent back home, leaving behind their partner and all the other friends they've made.

They didn't take the news well. Unwilling to complete their mission if it means losing everything they've gained there, they pull a FaceHeelTurn and rage against whatever they see as responsible for their plight. Maybe they become TheDragon to the BigBad, or overthrow them and rebel against the forces that want to send them back. This is where ''your'' hero comes in, as they're summoned in order to deal with this new threat.
* That's.....Actually a really cool idea! It would probably end up leading to some kind of [[AnAesop Aesop]], likely concerning friendship stuff. Then again, wouldn't going on a [[RageAgainsttheHeavens rage against the forces that brought them here]] [[NiceJobBreakingitHero lead to them]] [[MyGodWhathaveIDone ending up]] [[TearJerker away from said friends and such?]]

[[WMG: Next PMD title will be based on VideoGame/PokkenTournament.]]
Next PMD title will not be just a roguelike title; it will be a BeatEmUp FightingGame running a ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament'' engine and inspired by ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}}'''s Scenario Modes. It will still be [[SpiritualAdaptation based off]] VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon games and have some elements borrowed from them. However, tweaks will be imposed:
* Explorer Team Fights and NPC Duels could be made into missions in which you need to perform certain requirements, like beating a super-fast enemy, defeating the enemy while both fighters are poisoned, etc. Some popular cult classics like Pichu Brothers and Team Charm will appear in Explorer Team Fights.
* There will be a new guild "Pokkén Force", an expy of Tekken Force which protects the Mystery Dungeons and you must fight them over to uncover the dungeons.
* The player will start out without partners but gains one through progress. A MissionControl will be guiding the player throughout the game, but [[FaceHeelTurn it will show up and fight you in certain points of the game]]. Somewhat similar to ''[[VideoGame/MetalGear1 MSX2 Metal Gear]]''.
* Some Support Pokémon will show up as bosses in this PMD mode's NPC Duels, such as Espeon and Umbreon based on those from ''[[VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonGatesToInfinity Gates to Infinity]]''.

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[[folder:Other Pokemon games/media]]
human being.



[[WMG: The Mystery Dungeon Pokemon are descended from genetically altered Pokemon.]]
The land of Mystery Dungeon did have humans, but they all died out. Before that time, a group of scientists genetically altered their Pokemon to be much more intelligent, cooperate with each other, live in houses, and use money. Poke is the currency the humans used.

After the other humans found out about the genetically enhanced Pokemon, the scientists and Pokemon were driven from the land. They landed in Mystery Dungeon Land and colonized. The humans built the Friend Areas Power Plant and Decrepit Lab for themselves. They also built the beginnings of Pokemon Square.

Eventually, the humans died out. The Pokemon bred with the native Pokemon and created intelligent, competent Pokemon - the Mystery Dungeon Pokemon. The Max Elixirs, Proteins and TMs were created by the scientists and left behind. The Pokemon now live so well because they are so intelligent. Nowadays, nearly every Pokemon is related to the genetically altered Pokemon. Also, the gummis were a kind of fruit altered to enhance intelligence.
* So basically `The Secret of PokeNimh` ;D

[[WMG: The Mystery Dungeon Series takes place in Pokemon Storage Network]]

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[[WMG: The Mystery Dungeon Pokemon are descended from genetically altered Pokemon.]]
The land of Mystery Dungeon did have humans, but they all died out. Before that time, a group of scientists genetically altered their Pokemon to be much more intelligent, cooperate with each other, live in houses, and use money. Poke is the currency the humans used.

After the other humans found out about the genetically enhanced Pokemon, the scientists and Pokemon were driven from the land. They landed in Mystery Dungeon Land and colonized. The humans built the Friend Areas Power Plant and Decrepit Lab for themselves. They also built the beginnings of Pokemon Square.

Eventually, the humans died out. The Pokemon bred with the native Pokemon and created intelligent, competent Pokemon - the Mystery Dungeon Pokemon. The Max Elixirs, Proteins and TMs were created by the scientists and left behind. The Pokemon now live so well because they are so intelligent. Nowadays, nearly every Pokemon is related to the genetically altered Pokemon. Also, the gummis were a kind of fruit altered to enhance intelligence.
* So basically `The Secret of PokeNimh` ;D

[[WMG: The Mystery Dungeon Series takes place in Pokemon Storage Network]]



[[WMG:You're an orphan with no friends.]]
That's why you don't care about your family in any game, and in the originals you didn't care about former friends or any connections. You're more than content with staying.
* World of talking animals and awesome adventures > School, homework, work, your boss/teacher, over-restrictive parents, annoying little brother, etc any day!
* But the player has ''no memory'' of his family or friends in the real world. Would you rather go to a world where it's a crapshoot whether or not you were accepted in life, or stay in a world where you already have friends, one of whom would be ''particularly'' distraught at you leaving?
* Probably not the case in Gti, which deliberately downplays this idea.

[[WMG: The Mystery Dungeon world is an alternate universe where [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite N's plans succeeded]].]]

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[[WMG:You're an orphan with no friends.]]
That's why you don't care about your family in any game, and in the originals you didn't care about former friends or any connections. You're more than content with staying.
* World of talking animals and awesome adventures > School, homework, work, your boss/teacher, over-restrictive parents, annoying little brother, etc any day!
* But the player has ''no memory'' of his family or friends in the real world. Would you rather go to a world where it's a crapshoot whether or not you were accepted in life, or stay in a world where you already have friends, one of whom would be ''particularly'' distraught at you leaving?
* Probably not the case in Gti, which deliberately downplays this idea.

[[WMG: The Mystery Dungeon world is an alternate universe where [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite N's plans succeeded]].]]



[[WMG: The one asking you the questions in the ''Explorers'' personality quiz is [[spoiler: Celebi]]]].
This game repeats the first game's "This is the portal that leads to the world only inhabited by Pokemon". In the first game it made sense, since you're from the human world, but in this game, you're from the future. However, you did enter a portal to go back in time: The Passage of Time!
* Um, yeah. This one's heavily hinted by the personality quiz music returning in a certain scene...
* Plus, this could explain why [[spoiler:Celebi seems to recognize you when Grovyle takes you to meet her]].
** So wait, the personality quiz is the time travelling rift? What, [[spoiler:Celebi]] set up everything?! (The Man Behind The Man Behind The Man?!)
[[WMG: The Pokemon are reincarnations of human characters.]]

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[[WMG: The one asking you the questions in the ''Explorers'' personality quiz is [[spoiler: Celebi]]]].
This game repeats the first game's "This is the portal that leads to the world only inhabited by Pokemon". In the first game it made sense, since you're from the human world, but in this game, you're from the future. However, you did enter a portal to go back in time: The Passage of Time!
* Um, yeah. This one's heavily hinted by the personality quiz music returning in a certain scene...
* Plus, this could explain why [[spoiler:Celebi seems to recognize you when Grovyle takes you to meet her]].
** So wait, the personality quiz is the time travelling rift? What, [[spoiler:Celebi]] set up everything?! (The Man Behind The Man Behind The Man?!)
[[WMG: The Pokemon are reincarnations of human characters.]]



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[[folder:Other]]
[[WMG: The dungeon-dwelling Kecleon take over Monster Houses for their shops.]]
While finding items in mystery dungeons is pretty easy, the ''best'' stuff tends to be inside Monster Houses. The Kecleon are aware of this, so they specifically seek out Monster Houses. When they find one, they summon their buddies, slaughter everyone inside, then gather up the goods and set up shop. That's why Kecleon are so strong and how they're able to instantly call in help if any adventurers try to swipe ''their'' stuff.

[[WMG: Humans are alive and well, but the Pokémon towns are far away from them.]]
Apparently humans very rarely visit, if ever.
* I always thought this was true as well. It explains why all the Pokémon know what a human is, even though you don't actually see any in game.

[[WMG: It is taboo to mention someone's real name in public.]]
The Pokemon do have names besides their species names, but for some reason there's a strong taboo against using them in public. Not even the confusion of having, say, two Kecleon running a shop or [[spoiler:a pair of Ursaring]] is enough to overcome it. The Pokemon that join your team signal their working relationship with and trust in you by telling you their real names, and Alakazam, Chatot, and so on [[GameplayAndStorySegregation probably refer to the hero and partner by their species names]]. The partner is forward enough to ask the hero's name at the beginning as they can tell the hero's extremely dazed and probably needs all the bits of memory they can get.
* Perhaps using a given name is an extremely informal method of address, used primarily for close friends and those of lower status.

[[WMG: All Pokemon have unique names; the games simply omit them because of NominalImportance.]]
The only Pokemon whose names ''matter'' are the ones the player inputs themselves: The Hero, his/her Partner, and everyone they recruit. Everyone else ''has'' names; the game simply doesn't use them because ''this'' story is ultimately all about the hero and their friends. Wigglytuff's name isn't mentioned because the Guild's called "The Wigglytuff Guild", and revealing his real name would just confuse the target audience, [[SarcasmMode wouldn't it]]? Same goes for Chatot, Bidoof, Sunflora and the rest: it's easier to just address them by ''what'' they are and [[TheLawOfConservationOfDetail conserve details]] rather than juggle extra names. Plus, this lets any fans who ''really'' care about such details to invent their own, putting that much more of a personal spin on ''their'' version of the story.
* I support this. It would be difficult for the new player who is unfamiliar with the new gen of Pokemon to remember their names, especially if they had their own nickname.

[[WMG: Pokemon believe in the [[IKnowYourTrueName Power of Names]], and thus only reveal their "real" name to close allies (unless they are a transformed human ignorant of this view)]]
As seen on the Black and White WMG page.

[[WMG: Palkia is responsible for creating Mystery Dungeons.]]
None of the Pokemon seem to know or even care why the same dungeon is different every single time you go inside. The existence of Dialga and Palkia has also been shown to be a little less than common knowledge. It's reasonable that Palkia could use its powers over the fabric of space to keep these dungeons constantly rearranging themselves. The Pokemon inside these dungeons could even be attacking you as a side effect of being exposed to these powers. When you beat the crap out of one, sometimes you knock enough sense into it to make it want to join you.

[[WMG: Berries are the Pokemon-world equivalent of energy drinks.]]
Ever wondered why they cause immediate rejuvenation? This is made even more evident in the first TV special, where they cause whoever eats them to suddenly perk up or become hyperactive.

[[WMG: The ''Adventure Squad'' trio of games are LighterAndSofter as part of a BatmanGambit by the developers.]]
The ''Explorers'' games [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar got a LOT past the radar]], so just in case the MoralGuardians happened to catch wind of that, the ''Adventure Squad'' games are LighterAndSofter by comparison. This way, the MoralGuardians won't find anything objectionable and will dismiss the series as "kiddie fluff"... at which point the ''[[FourIsDeath fourth games]]'' will spring the SurpriseCreepy on any players lured into a false sense of comfort by the third trio.
* Confirmed, sort of... so the fifth game will be LighterAndSofter again?
** Considering the plot is Pokemon turned to stone, I think the pattern is broke.
** The Japanese website says that Super Mystery Dungeon takes place in a HighSchoolAU, or at least a school. Whether or not this means the game OVERALL is LighterAndSofter in the same way that Persona 4, a murder mystery is, is unknown.

[[WMG: The player character is asleep in a hospital on life support. The reason he/she stayed is because he/she doesn't [[AllJustADream want to wake up]].]]
* Why all these horrible {{WMG}}s? Why does everybody want to think of the worst?!
** Agreed! What is WITH you people?! [[TrueArtIsAngsty Sadly, I get the feeling everyone is just going to ignore us and carry on with these ridiculously tragic WMGs.]]

[[WMG: These Pokemon are more evolved then their main game counterparts]]
Our meaning of evolved, not the metamorphosis kind in the series. They're sapient for one thing. They don't appear to follow any animal instincts like the main game Pokemon. They don't hunt and they all appear to be either herbivores or omnivores. They naturally get along with other Pokemon no matter the species or gender. They have a better sense of the world then most Pokemon in the game continuity and they can create buildings. Due to the lack of exposure to humans and human things however, they still don't understand certain things, such as potions or computers.

[[WMG: The Pokemon aren't talking.]]
It's TranslationConvention. In [=PMD2=] though, you may or may not have been able to understand Grovyle when you were a human.
* Maybe in Poke-speech, but the player can understand them, so they ARE talking to each other at the very least.

[[WMG: The mons are [[{{Rifts}} M.D.C creatures]]]]
It explains how they can survive things that can kill a normal human being.

[[WMG: The land of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon started off as an uplifting social experiment.]]
Considering how people exist in the BadFuture, people seem to still be around in some form. A group of scientists, interested in Pokemon's potential for intelligence, wanted to see how a truly independent Pokemon society would develop. The supposed ruins of human buildings are the human structures used for this experiment. Humans are no longer around as part of the experiment, and because centuries have passed since this experiment began. Artificial and resurrected Pokemon like Porygon are there to watch it progress. Legendaries decided to migrate here because it allows them to be respected as the Poke-gods that they rather than [[OlympusMons glorified super-pets.]] The wild Pokemon in the Monster Houses are un-uplifted Pokemon.

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[[folder:Other]]
[[WMG: The dungeon-dwelling Kecleon take over Monster Houses for their shops.]]
While finding items in mystery dungeons is pretty easy, the ''best'' stuff tends to be inside Monster Houses. The Kecleon are aware of this, so they specifically seek out Monster Houses. When they find one, they summon their buddies, slaughter everyone inside, then gather up the goods and set up shop. That's why Kecleon are so strong and how they're able to instantly call in help if any adventurers try to swipe ''their'' stuff.

[[WMG: Humans are alive and well, but the Pokémon towns are far away from them.]]
Apparently humans very rarely visit, if ever.
* I always thought this was true as well. It explains why all the Pokémon know what a human is, even though you don't actually see any in game.

[[WMG: It is taboo to mention someone's real name in public.]]
The Pokemon do have names besides their species names, but for some reason there's a strong taboo against using them in public. Not even the confusion of having, say, two Kecleon running a shop or [[spoiler:a pair of Ursaring]] is enough to overcome it. The Pokemon that join your team signal their working relationship with and trust in you by telling you their real names, and Alakazam, Chatot, and so on [[GameplayAndStorySegregation probably refer to the hero and partner by their species names]]. The partner is forward enough to ask the hero's name at the beginning as they can tell the hero's extremely dazed and probably needs all the bits of memory they can get.
* Perhaps using a given name is an extremely informal method of address, used primarily for close friends and those of lower status.

[[WMG: All Pokemon have unique names; the games simply omit them because of NominalImportance.]]
The only Pokemon whose names ''matter'' are the ones the player inputs themselves: The Hero, his/her Partner, and everyone they recruit. Everyone else ''has'' names; the game simply doesn't use them because ''this'' story is ultimately all about the hero and their friends. Wigglytuff's name isn't mentioned because the Guild's called "The Wigglytuff Guild", and revealing his real name would just confuse the target audience, [[SarcasmMode wouldn't it]]? Same goes for Chatot, Bidoof, Sunflora and the rest: it's easier to just address them by ''what'' they are and [[TheLawOfConservationOfDetail conserve details]] rather than juggle extra names. Plus, this lets any fans who ''really'' care about such details to invent their own, putting that much more of a personal spin on ''their'' version of the story.
* I support this. It would be difficult for the new player who is unfamiliar with the new gen of Pokemon to remember their names, especially if they had their own nickname.

[[WMG: Pokemon believe in the [[IKnowYourTrueName Power of Names]], and thus only reveal their "real" name to close allies (unless they are a transformed human ignorant of this view)]]
As seen on the Black and White WMG page.

[[WMG: Palkia is responsible for creating Mystery Dungeons.]]
None of the Pokemon seem to know or even care why the same dungeon is different every single time you go inside. The existence of Dialga and Palkia has also been shown to be a little less than common knowledge. It's reasonable that Palkia could use its powers over the fabric of space to keep these dungeons constantly rearranging themselves. The Pokemon inside these dungeons could even be attacking you as a side effect of being exposed to these powers. When you beat the crap out of one, sometimes you knock enough sense into it to make it want to join you.

[[WMG: Berries are the Pokemon-world equivalent of energy drinks.]]
Ever wondered why they cause immediate rejuvenation? This is made even more evident in the first TV special, where they cause whoever eats them to suddenly perk up or become hyperactive.

[[WMG: The ''Adventure Squad'' trio of games are LighterAndSofter as part of a BatmanGambit by the developers.]]
The ''Explorers'' games [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar got a LOT past the radar]], so just in case the MoralGuardians happened to catch wind of that, the ''Adventure Squad'' games are LighterAndSofter by comparison. This way, the MoralGuardians won't find anything objectionable and will dismiss the series as "kiddie fluff"... at which point the ''[[FourIsDeath fourth games]]'' will spring the SurpriseCreepy on any players lured into a false sense of comfort by the third trio.
* Confirmed, sort of... so the fifth game will be LighterAndSofter again?
** Considering the plot is Pokemon turned to stone, I think the pattern is broke.
** The Japanese website says that Super Mystery Dungeon takes place in a HighSchoolAU, or at least a school. Whether or not this means the game OVERALL is LighterAndSofter in the same way that Persona 4, a murder mystery is, is unknown.

[[WMG: The player character is asleep in a hospital on life support. The reason he/she stayed is because he/she doesn't [[AllJustADream want to wake up]].]]
* Why all these horrible {{WMG}}s? Why does everybody want to think of the worst?!
** Agreed! What is WITH you people?! [[TrueArtIsAngsty Sadly, I get the feeling everyone is just going to ignore us and carry on with these ridiculously tragic WMGs.]]

[[WMG: These Pokemon are more evolved then their main game counterparts]]
Our meaning of evolved, not the metamorphosis kind in the series. They're sapient for one thing. They don't appear to follow any animal instincts like the main game Pokemon. They don't hunt and they all appear to be either herbivores or omnivores. They naturally get along with other Pokemon no matter the species or gender. They have a better sense of the world then most Pokemon in the game continuity and they can create buildings. Due to the lack of exposure to humans and human things however, they still don't understand certain things, such as potions or computers.

[[WMG: The Pokemon aren't talking.]]
It's TranslationConvention. In [=PMD2=] though, you may or may not have been able to understand Grovyle when you were a human.
* Maybe in Poke-speech, but the player can understand them, so they ARE talking to each other at the very least.

[[WMG: The mons are [[{{Rifts}} M.D.C creatures]]]]
It explains how they can survive things that can kill a normal human being.

[[WMG: The land of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon started off as an uplifting social experiment.]]
Considering how people exist in the BadFuture, people seem to still be around in some form. A group of scientists, interested in Pokemon's potential for intelligence, wanted to see how a truly independent Pokemon society would develop. The supposed ruins of human buildings are the human structures used for this experiment. Humans are no longer around as part of the experiment, and because centuries have passed since this experiment began. Artificial and resurrected Pokemon like Porygon are there to watch it progress. Legendaries decided to migrate here because it allows them to be respected as the Poke-gods that they rather than [[OlympusMons glorified super-pets.]] The wild Pokemon in the Monster Houses are un-uplifted Pokemon.



[[WMG:Theories regarding Mega Evolution in the Mystery Dungeon 'verse.]]
In Pokemon X and Y, Mega Evolution is achieved through a strong bond between a Trainer holding a Keystone and a Pokemon with a Mega Stone. Naturally, in a world with no Trainers, things would have to be done a little differently.
* Since there are no Trainers, there are no Keystones; the Mega Stone is the only artifact required.
* Like in the core series, Mega Evolution can only happen in battle, and it can only occur here when the Pokemon is Mega Evolving for the sake of someone they care deeply for, literally invoking ThePowerOfFriendship[=/=][[ThePowerOfLove Love]].
** [[SmartGuy Or they simply have to be smart enough to use these things]], considering IQ substitutes friendship in the evolutions.
* Alternatively, you're the human. It just worked through ThePowerOfFriendship anyway.

[[WMG: The Rescue/Exploration Team Badges provide a psychic link between teammates]]
The badges are made using super advanced junk Pokémon found that humans left behind. The badges provide a temporary psychic link that allows the rescue or exploration team to see what each other sees and share the same bag (which, by the way, is a small dimensional hole). The badge can also be used to teleport Pokémon out of dungeons, but only if they are not the leader. For that, an 'Escape Orb' is needed to provide more power. The badges can also teleport a team to certain relays across the continent, which is how you can get to places so fast. The regular series's gym badges are probably prototypes for this tech.

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[[WMG:Theories regarding Mega Evolution in the Mystery Dungeon 'verse.]]
In Pokemon X and Y, Mega Evolution is achieved through a strong bond between a Trainer holding a Keystone and a Pokemon with a Mega Stone. Naturally, in a world with no Trainers, things would have to be done a little differently.
* Since there are no Trainers, there are no Keystones; the Mega Stone is the only artifact required.
* Like in the core series, Mega Evolution can only happen in battle, and it can only occur here when the Pokemon is Mega Evolving for the sake of someone they care deeply for, literally invoking ThePowerOfFriendship[=/=][[ThePowerOfLove Love]].
** [[SmartGuy Or they simply have to be smart enough to use these things]], considering IQ substitutes friendship in the evolutions.
* Alternatively, you're the human. It just worked through ThePowerOfFriendship anyway.

[[WMG: The Rescue/Exploration Team Badges provide a psychic link between teammates]]
The badges are made using super advanced junk Pokémon found that humans left behind. The badges provide a temporary psychic link that allows the rescue or exploration team to see what each other sees and share the same bag (which, by the way, is a small dimensional hole). The badge can also be used to teleport Pokémon out of dungeons, but only if they are not the leader. For that, an 'Escape Orb' is needed to provide more power. The badges can also teleport a team to certain relays across the continent, which is how you can get to places so fast. The regular series's gym badges are probably prototypes for this tech.

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** Or this human could be the one responsible for the human-less world, in order to make a EvilPlan to conquer the world. The human's name? [[spoiler:[[OhCrap G]][[KnightOfCerebus h]][[ManipulativeBastard e]][[ItsAllAboutMe t]][[VileVillainSaccharineShow s]][[DangerouslyGenreSavvy i]][[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt s]].]]

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** Or this human could be the one responsible for the human-less world, in order to make a EvilPlan to conquer the world. The human's name? [[spoiler:[[OhCrap G]][[KnightOfCerebus h]][[ManipulativeBastard e]][[ItsAllAboutMe t]][[VileVillainSaccharineShow s]][[DangerouslyGenreSavvy i]][[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt s]].Ghetsis]].]]
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Someone out there made the game, the Mons played it, they won and then repopulated in the universe they created. Said population was that of the Mystery Dungeon world. To extend from that, the meteor in the first pair of games was probably from the Reckoning of a future session that had to be destroyed because it arrived too early (if it hit, we'd have a doomed timeline). What purpose it served I do not know.

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Someone out there made the game, the Mons played it, they won and then repopulated in the universe they created. Said population was that of the Mystery Dungeon world. To extend from that, the meteor in the first pair of games was probably from the Reckoning of a future session that had to which Deoxys will be destroyed because it arrived too early (if it hit, we'd have a doomed timeline). What purpose it served I do not know.
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Next PMD title will not be just a roguelike title; it will be a BeatEmUp FightingGame running a ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament'' engine. It will still be [[SpiritualAdaptation based off]] VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon games and have some elements borrowed from them. However, tweaks will be imposed:

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Next PMD title will not be just a roguelike title; it will be a BeatEmUp FightingGame running a ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament'' engine.engine and inspired by ''VideoGame/{{Tekken}}'''s Scenario Modes. It will still be [[SpiritualAdaptation based off]] VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon games and have some elements borrowed from them. However, tweaks will be imposed:
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[[WMG: Next PMD title will be based on VideoGame/PokkenTournament.]]
Next PMD title will not be just a roguelike title; it will be a BeatEmUp FightingGame running a ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament'' engine. It will still be [[SpiritualAdaptation based off]] VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon games and have some elements borrowed from them. However, tweaks will be imposed:
* Explorer Team Fights and NPC Duels could be made into missions in which you need to perform certain requirements, like beating a super-fast enemy, defeating the enemy while both fighters are poisoned, etc. Some popular cult classics like Pichu Brothers and Team Charm will appear in Explorer Team Fights.
* There will be a new guild "Pokkén Force", an expy of Tekken Force which protects the Mystery Dungeons and you must fight them over to uncover the dungeons.
* The player will start out without partners but gains one through progress. A MissionControl will be guiding the player throughout the game, but [[FaceHeelTurn it will show up and fight you in certain points of the game]]. Somewhat similar to ''[[VideoGame/MetalGear1 MSX2 Metal Gear]]''.
* Some Support Pokémon will show up as bosses in this PMD mode's NPC Duels, such as Espeon and Umbreon based on those from ''[[VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonGatesToInfinity Gates to Infinity]]''.
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* Would you believe me if I told you I have an (unfinished) fanfic using this very idea, that I wrote '''before''' reading this WMG? Because that was pretty much the best idea I could work up that allowed me to name the protagonists, as having protagonists named with the generic names of their species could potentially cause apathy in the audience as to their story.

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* Would you believe me if I told you I have an (unfinished) fanfic using this very idea, that I wrote '''before''' reading this WMG? Because that was pretty much the best idea I could work up that allowed me to name the protagonists, as having protagonists named with the generic names of their species could potentially cause apathy in the audience as to their story.

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** As the future world cannot be saved, the player came into conclusion to destroy the timeline instead. It's like Munna's goal in the Gate to Infinity. Both Grovyle and the player were desperate enough that they were willing to erase themselves to change the history, because they had nothing to lose. It also explained how Grovyle was bitter and didn't care how he stopped time in the past. Thankfully, the player lost their memory as they travelled into the past, or else you'd be playing with a bitter antihero who would do anything to change the past.

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** As the future world cannot be saved, the player came into conclusion to destroy the timeline instead. It's like Munna's goal in the Gate Gates to Infinity. Both Grovyle and the player were desperate enough that they were willing to erase themselves to change the history, because they had nothing to lose. It also explained how Grovyle was bitter and didn't care how he stopped time in the past. Thankfully, the player lost their memory as they travelled traveled into the past, or else you'd be playing with a bitter antihero who would do anything to change the past.


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[[WMG:The mons from the BadFuture revived in the game's present, or a relatively short time after]]
Since the bad future lacks any true passage of time (not counting cause and effect), everything would've remained in the exact moment where [[TimeCrash time went down the crapper]]. With how close the player and partner cut it when delivering the Time Gears, it can be assumed this moment would've been not long after your fight with Dialga, which for all intents and purposes is basically the present.

Of note is that in Super you can recruit both the characters from the bad future ''and'' the guild members (who haven't so much as evolved since the events of Explorers, mind you), showing that they exist simultaneously. Then again, this detail could also be explained by Celebi time traveling with everyone.

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