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* It's possible that the... [[BuffySpeak helmet thing]] on the Platyborg's head is used for mind control, like the monkey-enslavinator. Instead of simply 'coming to his senses' maybe it gets taken off somehow... (What? [[SecretAgentClank It's happened before.]])

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* It's possible that the... [[BuffySpeak helmet thing]] on the Platyborg's head is used for mind control, like the monkey-enslavinator. Instead of simply 'coming to his senses' maybe it gets taken off somehow... (What? [[SecretAgentClank [[VideoGame/SecretAgentClank It's happened before.]])

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** So her friends wouldn't ask questions. Remember when Perry appeared and Phineas was confused? Besides, maybe Isabella has some device or something.

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** So She was included so her friends wouldn't ask questions. Remember when Perry appeared and Phineas was confused? Besides, maybe Isabella has some device or something.with her to prevent herself from the effects of the Memory-Erase-Inator.
** Or maybe her mind got erased because she's too young to understand the O.W.C.A. stuff before she will actually be part of it.
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** So her friends wouldn't ask questions. Remember when Perry appeared and Phineas was confused? Besides, maybe Isabella has some device or something.
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[[WMG: Isabella discovers Pinky's secret during the battle against Alternate Doofenshmirtz's robot army.]]
How are we to know that Isabella didn't fight with Pinky offscreen during the big battle at the end of the movie. It would also make erasing her memories even more important.

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[[WMG: Isabella discovers Pinky's secret Identity during the battle against Alternate Doofenshmirtz's robot army.]]
How are we to know that Isabella didn't fight with alongside Pinky offscreen during the big battle at the end of the movie. It would also make erasing her memories even more important.
of that day just as important as erasing the memories of those who knew Perry's secret.




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* If that was the case, then Monogram wouldn't have had her memories erased in the first place.
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* But then she said that none of them would remember... unless she's hiding something.
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Perhaps ''that's'' why Isabella didn't mind kissing Phineas. She'll remember the kiss, but Phineas won't. That's also why we didn't see Isabella being surprised that her pet Pinky is a secret agent.

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Perhaps ''that's'' why Isabella didn't mind kissing Phineas.Phineas before the Memory-Erase-Inator was activated. She'll remember the kiss, but Phineas won't. That's also why we didn't don't see Isabella being surprised that her pet Pinky is a secret agent.
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[[WMG: Isabella Major Monogram's stepdaughter, thus is immune to the Memory-Erase-Inator]]

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[[WMG: Isabella Major Monogram's stepdaughter, thus she is immune to the Memory-Erase-Inator]]

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* [[spoiler: Jossed.]]

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* [[spoiler: Jossed.]]
Quite Confirmed since Candace-2 saved the ones from the 1st Dimension but ended up in some dungeon/jail.


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[[WMG: Isabella Major Monogram's stepdaughter, thus is immune to the Memory-Erase-Inator]]
Perhaps ''that's'' why Isabella didn't mind kissing Phineas. She'll remember the kiss, but Phineas won't. That's also why we didn't see Isabella being surprised that her pet Pinky is a secret agent.
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[[WMG:Ferb is a TimeLord]]

As an alternative to the above guess. It would explain his secret double life that Phineas apparently isn't surprised by, he has a way with (sonic) screwdrivers, and he's British
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[[WMG: ''Across the Second Dimension'' was partially inspired by the season 2 arc of the new DoctorWho series (especially the episodes ''Rise of the Cybermen'', ''The Age of Steel'' and ''Doomsday'').]]

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[[WMG: ''Across the Second Dimension'' was partially inspired by the season series 2 arc of the new DoctorWho ''Series/DoctorWho'' series (especially the episodes ''Rise "Rise of the Cybermen'', ''The Cybermen", "The Age of Steel'' Steel" and ''Doomsday'')."Doomsday").]]

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[[WMG: Isabella discovers Pinky's secret during the battle against Alternate Doofenshmirtz's robot army.]]
How are we to know that Isabella didn't fight with Pinky offscreen during the big battle at the end of the movie. It would also make erasing her memories even more important.




[[WMG: Isabella discovers Pinky's secret during the battle against Alternate Doofenshmirtz's robot army.]]
How are we to know that Isabella didn't fight with Pinky offscreen during the big battle at the end of the movie. It would also make erasing her memories even more important.
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Just a really silly CrossOver WMG, quite honestly. Was I really the only one to jump up and point at my TV upon hearing "Other''[[NamesTheSame dimensionator]]''"? [[hottip:* : [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotAwesome Actually... I probably was]].]] I know it's just a byproduct of the ThemeNaming on Doof's part, but it was too tempting to pass up. Here's to hoping that Heinz doesn't [[DevelopmentGag create a]] [[RatchetAndClankFutureToolsOfDestruction time-space]] [[TechnoBabble singularity.]]

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Just a really silly CrossOver WMG, quite honestly. Was I really the only one to jump up and point at my TV upon hearing "Other''[[NamesTheSame dimensionator]]''"? [[hottip:* : [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotAwesome Actually... I probably was]].]] I know it's just a byproduct of the ThingOMatic ThemeNaming on Doof's part, but it was too tempting to pass up. Here's to hoping that Heinz doesn't [[DevelopmentGag create a]] [[RatchetAndClankFutureToolsOfDestruction time-space]] [[TechnoBabble singularity.]]
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Just a really silly CrossOver WMG, quite honestly. Was I really the only one to jump up and point at my TV upon hearing "Other''[[NamesTheSame dimensionator]]''"? [[hottip:* : [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotAwesome Actually... I probably was]].]] I know it's just a byproduct of the TropeOMatic ThemeNaming on Doof's part, but it was too tempting to pass up. Here's to hoping that Heinz doesn't [[DevelopmentGag create a]] [[RatchetAndClankFutureToolsOfDestruction time-space]] [[TechnoBabble singularity.]]

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Just a really silly CrossOver WMG, quite honestly. Was I really the only one to jump up and point at my TV upon hearing "Other''[[NamesTheSame dimensionator]]''"? [[hottip:* : [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotAwesome Actually... I probably was]].]] I know it's just a byproduct of the TropeOMatic ThemeNaming on Doof's part, but it was too tempting to pass up. Here's to hoping that Heinz doesn't [[DevelopmentGag create a]] [[RatchetAndClankFutureToolsOfDestruction time-space]] [[TechnoBabble singularity.]]

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[[WMG: Isabella discovers Pinky's secret during the battle against Alternate Doofenshmirtz's robot army.]]
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[[WMG: ''Across the Second Dimension'' was partially inspired by the season 2 arc of DoctorWho (especially the episodes ''Rise of the Cybermen'', ''The Age of Steel'' and ''Doomsday'').]]

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[[WMG: ''Across the Second Dimension'' was partially inspired by the season 2 arc of the new DoctorWho series (especially the episodes ''Rise of the Cybermen'', ''The Age of Steel'' and ''Doomsday'').]]
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*** EvilerThanThou (a play on Holier than thou) and NightmareFuel are both real life terms that got used for Trope names so it doesn't prove much. Everything is better with is also pretty commonly used by non-tropers.
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** The friend was [[ContinuityNod his neighbor, Kenny]]. [[CallBack You remember]] [[RunningGag THAT backstory]]...

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** The friend was [[ContinuityNod his neighbor, Kenny]]. [[CallBack You remember]] [[RunningGag THAT backstory]]...\n
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** The friend was [[CallBack his neighbor, Kenny]].

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** The friend was [[CallBack [[ContinuityNod his neighbor, Kenny]].
Kenny]]. [[CallBack You remember]] [[RunningGag THAT backstory]]...
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** The friend was [[CallBack his neighbor, Kenny]].
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Okay,so he's got the same childhood past as Doof-1- neglected and raised by ocelots and all. And he beared with it, like Doof 1. But he had ONE very close friend that greatly helped him do so. On Doof 2's birthday, that friend gave him a toy train, and on it they swore they would be best friends forever. Fast forward several months. It is the day of the Doofenshmirtz family reunion. The friend is not part of the family by blood,but he/she goes anyway. Doof is being embarassingly uncoordinated as usual,but his best friend cheers him on. After the game, Doof is humiliated so bad that he runs from the field crying, Best Friend following and trying to calm him down. In his stress,Doof yells at Best Friend to go away. They argue a little,leading to Doof to say horrible,personal things to Best Friend. Then Best Friend is now the one to run away in tears. A few days later, they have not spoken to each other since. Doof feels guilty about the incident at the reunion, so he goes to Best Friend to apologize. Best Friend gives Doof a very happy look and waves him hello(or goodbye...)before he/she gets struck by a car(or some sort of vehicle in Druelselstein that can accidentally cause death. However he/she does not die immeadiately. Best Friend dies in the totally shocked and sobbing Doof's arms,his/her last words being "Remember our Choo-Choo Pact? We'll... always... be friends..."

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Okay,so he's got the same childhood past as Doof-1- neglected and raised by ocelots and all. And he beared with it, like Doof 1. But he had ONE very close friend that greatly helped him do so. On Doof 2's birthday, that friend gave him a toy train, and on it they swore they would be best friends forever. Fast forward several months. It is the day of the Doofenshmirtz family reunion. The friend is not part of the family by blood,but he/she goes anyway. Doof is being embarassingly uncoordinated as usual,but his best friend cheers him on. After the game, Doof is humiliated so bad that he runs from the field crying, Best Friend following and trying to calm him down. In his stress,Doof yells at Best Friend to go away. They argue a little,leading to Doof to say horrible,personal things to Best Friend. Then Best Friend is now the one to run away in tears. A few days later, they have not spoken to each other since. Doof feels guilty about the incident at the reunion, so he goes to Best Friend to apologize. Best Friend gives Doof a very happy look and waves him hello(or goodbye...)before he/she gets struck by a car(or some other sort of vehicle in Druelselstein that can accidentally cause death. death.) However he/she does not die immeadiately. Best Friend dies in the totally shocked and sobbing Doof's arms,his/her last words being "Remember our Choo-Choo Pact? We'll... always... be friends..."

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* This troper agrees: after all, you don't know what you've got till it's gone. Doof-1 may have found the fact dat losing his toy train as a kid was enough reason for Doof-2 to become a cruel dictator ridiculus, but since he never lost his own toy train he never knew how important it realy was for him. Notice that as soon as Doof-2 receives Doof-1' toy train, he instantly seemed to become the same imbecilic jerk the Doof-1 always was. (He even came up with a self-destruct button for each and every one of his Norm Bots, quite in the manner of his 1st Dimension counterpart.) Apparently, the trauma of losing his favorite toy as a child was the only thing that held him "competent", no matter how strange it may seem.

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* This troper agrees: after all, you don't know what you've got till it's gone. Doof-1 may have found the fact dat that losing his toy train as a kid was enough reason for Doof-2 to become a cruel dictator ridiculus, but since he never lost his own toy train he never knew how important it realy was for him. Notice that as soon as Doof-2 receives Doof-1' toy train, he instantly seemed to become the same imbecilic jerk the Doof-1 always was. (He even came up with a self-destruct button for each and every one of his Norm Bots, quite in the manner of his 1st Dimension counterpart.) Apparently, the trauma of losing his favorite toy as a child was the only thing that held him "competent", no matter how strange it may seem.


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[[WMG: The reason that losing a toy train was such a motivation for Doofenshmirtz-2 to become evil is that said toy train was his {{Tragic Keepsake}} ]]
Hell, I even have a whole headcannon for it. It's a bit cliche but I've given it thought.

Okay,so he's got the same childhood past as Doof-1- neglected and raised by ocelots and all. And he beared with it, like Doof 1. But he had ONE very close friend that greatly helped him do so. On Doof 2's birthday, that friend gave him a toy train, and on it they swore they would be best friends forever. Fast forward several months. It is the day of the Doofenshmirtz family reunion. The friend is not part of the family by blood,but he/she goes anyway. Doof is being embarassingly uncoordinated as usual,but his best friend cheers him on. After the game, Doof is humiliated so bad that he runs from the field crying, Best Friend following and trying to calm him down. In his stress,Doof yells at Best Friend to go away. They argue a little,leading to Doof to say horrible,personal things to Best Friend. Then Best Friend is now the one to run away in tears. A few days later, they have not spoken to each other since. Doof feels guilty about the incident at the reunion, so he goes to Best Friend to apologize. Best Friend gives Doof a very happy look and waves him hello(or goodbye...)before he/she gets struck by a car(or some sort of vehicle in Druelselstein that can accidentally cause death. However he/she does not die immeadiately. Best Friend dies in the totally shocked and sobbing Doof's arms,his/her last words being "Remember our Choo-Choo Pact? We'll... always... be friends..."

Couple years later, Choo-Choo mysteriously disappears.

*And yes, I could have just typed "Choo-Choo was his Tragic Keepsake relating to a dead friend." but I really wanted to share my headcannon.
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[[WMG: Candace-2 in adulthood will become a [[AlienForce Plumber]] recruited by [[CallBack Meap-2]]]]

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* This troper agrees: after all, you don't know what you've got till it's gone. Doof-1 may have found the fact dat losing his toy train as a kid was enough reason for Doof-2 to become a cruel dictator ridiculus, but since he never lost his own toy train he never knew how important it realy was for him. Notice that as soon as Doof-2 receives Doof-1' toy train, he instantly seemed to become the same imbecilic jerk the Doof-1 always was. (He even came up with a self-destruct button for each and every one of his Norm Bots, quite in the manner of his 1st Dimension counterpart.) Apparently, the trauma of losing his favorite toy as a child was the only thing that held him "competent", no matter how strange it may seem.



[[WMG:Doof's toy train realy was that important for him]]
After all, you don't know what you've got till it's gone. Doof-1 may have found the fact dat losing his toy train as a kid was enough reason for Doof-2 to become a cruel dictator ridiculus, but since he never lost his own toy train he never knew how important it realy was for him. Notice that as soon as Doof-2 receives Doof-1' toy train, he instantly seemed to become the same imbecilic jerk the Doof-1 always was. (He even came up with a self-destruct button for each and every one of his Norm Bots, quite in the manner of his 1st Dimension counterpart.) Apparently, the trauma of losing his favorite toy as a child was the only thing that held him "competent", no matter how strange it may seem.

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[[WMG:Doof's toy train realy was that important for him]]
After all, you don't know what you've got till it's gone. Doof-1 may have found the fact dat losing his toy train as a kid was enough reason for Doof-2 to become a cruel dictator ridiculus, but since he never lost his own toy train he never knew how important it realy was for him. Notice that as soon as Doof-2 receives Doof-1' toy train, he instantly seemed to become the same imbecilic jerk the Doof-1 always was. (He even came up with a self-destruct button for each and every one of his Norm Bots, quite in the manner of his 1st Dimension counterpart.) Apparently, the trauma of losing his favorite toy as a child was the only thing that held him "competent", no matter how strange it may seem.



[[WMG:Doof's toy train realy was that important for him]]
After all, you don't know what you've got till it's gone. Doof-1 may have found the fact dat losing his toy train as a kid was enough reason for Doof-2 to become a cruel dictator ridiculus, but since he never lost his own toy train he never knew how important it realy was for him. Notice that as soon as Doof-2 receives Doof-1' toy train, he instantly seemed to become the same imbecilic jerk the Doof-1 always was. (He even came up with a self-destruct button for each and every one of his Norm Bots, quite in the manner of his 1st Dimension counterpart.) Apparently, the trauma of losing his favorite toy as a child was the only thing that held him "competent", no matter how strange it may seem.


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[[WMG:Doof's toy train realy was that important for him]]
After all, you don't know what you've got till it's gone. Doof-1 may have found the fact dat losing his toy train as a kid was enough reason for Doof-2 to become a cruel dictator ridiculus, but since he never lost his own toy train he never knew how important it realy was for him. Notice that as soon as Doof-2 receives Doof-1' toy train, he instantly seemed to become the same imbecilic jerk the Doof-1 always was. (He even came up with a self-destruct button for each and every one of his Norm Bots, quite in the manner of his 1st Dimension counterpart.) Apparently, the trauma of losing his favorite toy as a child was the only thing that held him "competent", no matter how strange it may seem.

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[[WMG:Doof's toy train realy was that important for him]]
After all, you don't know what you've got till it's gone. Doof-1 may have found the fact dat losing his toy train as a kid was enough reason for Doof-2 to become a cruel dictator ridiculus, but since he never lost his own toy train he never knew how important it realy was for him. Notice that as soon as Doof-2 receives Doof-1' toy train, he instantly seemed to become the same imbecilic jerk the Doof-1 always was. (He even came up with a self-destruct button for each and every one of his Norm Bots, quite in the manner of his 1st Dimension counterpart.) Apparently, the trauma of losing his favorite toy as a child was the only thing that held him "competent", no matter how strange it may seem.

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[[WMG:Candace-2 is a TimeLord]] [[TropeExampleLaws Every page needs one.]]

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[[WMG:Candace-2 is a TimeLord]] [[TropeExampleLaws Every page needs one.]]
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Technically its TimeLady, but I agree with both statements
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Regular Doofensmirtz's FreudianExcuse inspired him to become really smart to compensate (not necessarily [[CompensatingForSomething that]]), but at the cost of his common sense. Alternate Doofensmirtz didn't have as tragic a childhood, so is more savvy.

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Regular Doofensmirtz's FreudianExcuse inspired him to become really smart to compensate (not necessarily [[CompensatingForSomething that]]), compensate, but at the cost of his common sense. Alternate Doofensmirtz didn't have as tragic a childhood, so is more savvy.
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* Again, [[spoiler: photos are the proof.]] Phineas was just putting up a act for Doof-2 so that he will think it '''WAS''' real, thus, when learning that Perry was kidnapped, he [[DidnotThinkThisThrough tried to rescue him.]] The only thing that COULD be real is if Perry WAS using him as a cover, or he could be trying to still convince Doof-2. This also explains how his anger calmed down unexpecticed like. Ferb could also be in on it.

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* Again, [[spoiler: photos are the proof.]] Phineas was just putting up a act for Doof-2 so that he will think it '''WAS''' real, thus, when learning that Perry was kidnapped, he [[DidnotThinkThisThrough [[DidntThinkThisThrough tried to rescue him.]] The only thing that COULD be real is if Perry WAS using him as a cover, or he could be trying to still convince Doof-2. This also explains how his anger calmed down unexpecticed like. Ferb could also be in on it.

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** The offical website seems this confirm this somewhat. In this timeline, only one bad childhood event happened to doof. Sadly, it was enough to turn him into an evil dictator. We just don't know what said even is.
*** He [[spoiler:lost a toy train]]

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** The offical website seems this confirm this somewhat. In this timeline, only one bad childhood event happened to doof. Sadly, it was enough to turn him into an evil dictator. We just don't know what said even event is.
*** He [[spoiler:lost a toy train]]
train.]]
** {{Jossed}}. Phineas-2 and Ferb-2 are shown alive in the movie.



[[WMG: Alternate Doofenshmirtz '''WILL''' be a CompleteMonster.]]
* If the above WMG is wrong that is, and after all, if the show made DrillSergeantNasty in "Phineas and Ferb Gets Busted" a VileVillainSaccharineShow. What's stopping [[WordOfGod Dan and Jeff?]]
** Ummm... why was this WMG put up twice? Answer is a few examples up.

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[[WMG: Alternate Doofenshmirtz '''WILL''' be a CompleteMonster.]]
* If the above WMG is wrong that is, and after all, if the show made DrillSergeantNasty in "Phineas and Ferb Gets Busted" a VileVillainSaccharineShow. What's stopping [[WordOfGod Dan and Jeff?]]
** Ummm... why was this WMG put up twice? Answer is a few examples up.



[[WMG: In ''Across the Second Dimension'' we will meet evil Phineas and evil Ferb ]]
As a logical succession of previous WMG. Evil Phineas and Evil Ferb will deliberately mess with Candace's head, and their inventions will not be for fun, but... well for fun. For [[ForTheEvulz very specific kind of fun]]

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[[WMG: In ''Across the Second Dimension'' we will meet evil Phineas and evil Ferb ]]
Ferb]]
As a logical succession of previous WMG. Evil Phineas and Evil Ferb will deliberately mess with Candace's head, and their inventions will not be for fun, but... well for fun. For [[ForTheEvulz very specific kind of fun]]fun.]]



[[WMG: The big bad Doofenshmirtz in ''Across the Second Dimension'' will be Vanessa ]]

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** They state they are the same person, so yes, it is {{Jossed}}.



* [[spoiler:Jossed. That mystery figure is just a shrub.]]

[[WMG: The reason Alt. Doofenshmirtz will be a complete monster (or something close to that) is because he never had Vanessa / never met Charlene]]

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* [[spoiler:Jossed.[[spoiler: Jossed. That mystery figure is just a shrub.]]

[[WMG: The reason Alt. Doofenshmirtz will be a complete monster CompleteMonster (or something close to that) is because he never had Vanessa / never met Charlene]]

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