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[[WMG: The AlternateHistory shown in the show is the result of TimeTravel]]
At some point in the future, a member of [[Characters/BatmanRoguesGallery Batman's Rogues Gallery]] traveled back in time to try to prevent him from being born, but not knowing his SecretIdentity, they had to go far back and change history so much that he would be butterflied away. But RubberBandHistory is partially in play, and InSpiteOfANail Thomas Wayne and Martha Kane still exist and still fall in love with each other, and they still cross paths with Alfred Pennyworth.
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* Confirmed. Salt actually orchestrates Harwood's gradual insanity to take over the raven union, including with the pills he gives him.
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* Confirmed. Salt actually orchestrates Harwood's gradual insanity to take over the raven union, Raven Union, including with the pills he gives him.
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As of Episode 5 of Season 2. It looks like he's slowly poisoning Lord Harwood and ordered the police squad to kill Bet Sykes instead of picking her up. Harwood's lost of trust in Frances Gaunt also helps.
* Confirmed.
* Confirmed.
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As of Episode 5 of Season 2. It looks like he's slowly poisoning Lord Harwood and ordered the police squad to kill Bet Sykes instead of picking her up. Harwood's lost loss of trust in Frances Gaunt also helps.
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Confirmed. Salt actually orchestrates Harwood's gradual insanity to take over the raven union, including with the pills he gives him.
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* Jossed. He gets out of his funk mid-season and doesn't go to the USA. He even reflects on doing a servant job like his father.
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* Jossed. He gets out of his funk mid-season and doesn't go to the USA. USA, preferring to fight in the English League. He even reflects on does think about doing a servant job like his father.
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* Still not as of Season 2.
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* Jossed.
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* Jossed. Only Patricia Wayne moves to Gotham [[spoiler:and the newborn child of the Waynes is ''[[WhamEpisode not a boy]]''.]]
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* Jossed. They marry during the CivilWar.
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* Confirmed.
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* Jossed. He gets out of his funk mid-season and doesn't go to the USA. He even reflects on doing a servant job like his father.
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As of Episode 5 of Season 2. It looks like he's slowly poisoning Lord Harwood and ordered the police squad to kill Bet Sykes instead of picking her up.
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As of Episode 5 of Season 2. It looks like he's slowly poisoning Lord Harwood and ordered the police squad to kill Bet Sykes instead of picking her up. \n Harwood's lost of trust in Frances Gaunt also helps.
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[[WMG: Alfred finally becoming the Waynes' butler]]
Alfred goes down an increasingly dark path in Season 2 with all these bloody heists. He might lose everything and commit something he wouldn't know would end up hurting Thomas and Martha in some fashion, and would end up becoming their butler to make amends.
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[[WMG: John Salt is TheStarscream]]
As of Episode 5 of Season 2. It looks like he's slowly poisoning Lord Harwood and ordered the police squad to kill Bet Sykes instead of picking her up.
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[[WMG: Thomas and Martha don't end up getting married.]]
Martha chooses to leave this life and return to her first love, a farmer from Kansas named Jonathan. Thomas later meets and marries another Martha.
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[[WMG: Alfred, Thomas and Martha will move to Gotham, Thomas and Martha will marry and Bruce will be born in Season 2]]
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[[WMG: Alfred, Thomas and Martha will move to Gotham, Gotham City, Thomas and Martha will marry and Bruce will be born in Season 2]]
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[[WMG: Alfred, Thomas and Martha will move to Gotham, Thomas and Martha will marry and Bruce will be born in Season 2]]
Depending if the showrunners feel like avoiding SecondSeasonDownfall at all cost or prepare for it.
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All this WMG means is that she turns evil at some point in the show. It doesn't need to happen anytime soon, as long as she's not on the side of good once Batman shows up
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* Jossed, though she does give the same cold look at Martha as all the other party guests of Aleister Crowley when the party suddenly stops and Martha is brought before what looks like [[spoiler:{{Baphomet}} himself. And God knows what happened to Martha afterwards, and Patricia, at the very least, did nothing to prevent that.]]
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* Jossed, Jossed so far, though she does give the same cold look at Martha as all the other party guests of Aleister Crowley when the party suddenly stops and Martha is brought before what looks like [[spoiler:{{Baphomet}} himself. And God knows what happened to Martha afterwards, and Patricia, at the very least, did nothing to prevent that.]]
* She could still turn evil later in the show.
* She could still turn evil later in the show.
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* Jossed, though she does give the same cold look at Martha as all the other party guests of Aleister Crowley when she's brought before [[spoiler:what looks like {{Baphomet}} himself. And God knows what happened to Martha afterwards, and Patricia, at the very least, did nothing to prevent that.]]
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* Jossed, though she does give the same cold look at Martha as all the other party guests of Aleister Crowley when she's the party suddenly stops and Martha is brought before [[spoiler:what what looks like {{Baphomet}} [[spoiler:{{Baphomet}} himself. And God knows what happened to Martha afterwards, and Patricia, at the very least, did nothing to prevent that.]]
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* Jossed, though she does give the same cold look at Martha as all the other party guests of Aleister Crowley when she's brought before [[spoiler:what looks like {{Baphomet}} himself.]]
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* Jossed, though she does give the same cold look at Martha as all the other party guests of Aleister Crowley when she's brought before [[spoiler:what looks like {{Baphomet}} himself. And God knows what happened to Martha afterwards, and Patricia, at the very least, did nothing to prevent that.]]
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* Jossed.
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* Jossed, though she does give the same cold look at Martha as all the other party guests of Aleister Crowley when she's brought before [[spoiler:what looks like {{Baphomet}} himself.]]
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[[WMG: Creator/MichaelCaine cameo in Season 2]]
The series is very much a love letter to him, both to his classic 1960s-1970s British movies and his turn as Alfred in ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'', so having him in a cameo capacity would be the cherry on the cake.
The series is very much a love letter to him, both to his classic 1960s-1970s British movies and his turn as Alfred in ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'', so having him in a cameo capacity would be the cherry on the cake.
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[[WMG: A Creator/MichaelCaine cameo in Season 2]]
The series is very much a love letter to him, both to his classic gritty 1960s-1970s British gangster/spy movies and his turn as Alfred in ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'', so having him in a cameo capacity would be the cherry on the cake.
The series is very much a love letter to him, both to his classic gritty 1960s-1970s British gangster/spy movies and his turn as Alfred in ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'', so having him in a cameo capacity would be the cherry on the cake.
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The series is very much a love letter to him, both to his classic 1960s-1970s British movies and his turn as Alfred in ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'', so having him in a cameo capacity would be the cherry on the cake.
The series is very much a love letter to him, both to his classic 1960s-1970s British movies and his turn as Alfred in ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'', so having him in a cameo capacity would be the cherry on the cake.
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She can't live to be more family for Bruce, but killing her off would make her existence pointless. Therefore, she will turn out to be evil.
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She can't live to be more family for Bruce, but killing her off would make her existence pointless. Therefore, she will turn out to be evil.evil.
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* Jossed. The Rippers present in this series are a family ''named'' Ripper, and there's no evidence that they're descended from Jack.
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And if they could find some way to tie it into Batman's Outsiders team, that'd be cool (don't know how they'd pull it off, though.
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And if they could find some way to tie it into Batman's Outsiders team, that'd be cool (don't know how they'd pull it off, though.though.
[[WMG: Patricia Wayne will turn into a villain]]
She can't live to be more family for Bruce, but killing her off would make her existence pointless. Therefore, she will turn out to be evil.
[[WMG: Patricia Wayne will turn into a villain]]
She can't live to be more family for Bruce, but killing her off would make her existence pointless. Therefore, she will turn out to be evil.
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Jack the Ripper's descendants are apparently in this, and their family names will be [[spoiler:Parker]].
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Jack the Ripper's descendants are apparently in this, and their family names will be [[spoiler:Parker]].[[spoiler:Parker]].
[[WMG: Alfred's codename will be [[MythologyGag Outsider]]]]
And if they could find some way to tie it into Batman's Outsiders team, that'd be cool (don't know how they'd pull it off, though.
[[WMG: Alfred's codename will be [[MythologyGag Outsider]]]]
And if they could find some way to tie it into Batman's Outsiders team, that'd be cool (don't know how they'd pull it off, though.
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[[WMG:There is gonna be a ''Gotham By Gaslight'' ShoutOut]]
Jack the Ripper's descendants are apparently in this, and their family names will be [[spoiler:Parker]].
Jack the Ripper's descendants are apparently in this, and their family names will be [[spoiler:Parker]].