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Obviously it’s a terrible thing to think, but Chi Fu would have seen her during the training montage. It could be argued that his prejudices are so deeply ingrained into his psyche that his memories rewrote themselves to fit with his beliefs the instant he foundout the truth about Mulan, but it if that were the case, it seems rather unlikely that he would instantly assume nearly getting stabbed by a falling sword was an elaborate murder attempt on Mulan’s part. While the audience knows that it wasn’t Mulan, but for his own theory to make sense to him, he would need to acknowledge that Mulan had the fighting skills required to throw a sword at him and only miss by a few inches. It's easy to see someone being strong. But it's hard to be able to figure out what someone's intentions are, and Mulan's more destructive acts, (being attributed with randomly firing a rocket while trying to ambush the huns)-stealing the last cannon in a chancy gambit so out there not even Mushu understood what she was doing, and it's pretty clear that everyone was ''pretty'' horrified as their supposedly loyal fellow soldier randomly grabbed the last cannon as it was being prepared to nuke the Hun leader and started running towards the enemy army with it)

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Obviously it’s a terrible thing to think, but Chi Fu would have seen her during the training montage. It could be argued that his prejudices are so deeply ingrained into his psyche that his memories rewrote themselves to fit with his beliefs the instant he foundout the truth about Mulan, but it if that were the case, it seems rather unlikely that he would instantly assume nearly getting stabbed by a falling sword was an elaborate murder attempt on Mulan’s part. While the audience knows that it wasn’t Mulan, but for his own theory to make sense to him, he would need to acknowledge that Mulan had the fighting skills required to throw a sword at him and only miss by a few inches. It's easy to see someone being strong. But it's hard to be able to figure out what someone's intentions are, and Mulan's more destructive acts, (being attributed with randomly firing a rocket while trying to ambush the huns)-stealing the last cannon in a chancy gambit so out there not even Mushu understood what she was doing, and it's pretty clear that everyone was ''pretty'' horrified as their supposedly loyal fellow soldier randomly grabbed the last cannon as it was being prepared to nuke the Hun leader and started running towards the enemy army with it)it)
[[WMG: Mushu has illusory powers]]
Several times he says something out loud that everyone assumes to be Mulan,(that sounds nothing like her, even in her man disguise) or he says something out loud that nobody but Mulan seems to hear. And then there was his rather suspect looking 'imperial messenger' disguise that passed muster, as well as pretending to be Mulan trash talking Shang in the sequel (Shang was completely fooled despite "Mulan's" head falling off, as well as "Mulan"'s voice suddenly sounding exactly Mushu's (Mushu's voice does not resemble Mulan's by any stretch of imagination) And let's not forget the impressive show he puts on for Mulan before revealing himself. His powers clearly have limits-he can do nothing to alter his physical body, though his shadow and his voice are free real estate. If he creates a disguise Animals also see right through them, though he is ''very'' good at getting them to do what he wants, as seen with Cri-Kee, Hayabusa, and a random panda bear...
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[[WMG: Chi Fu was operating under the assumption that Mulan was evil, not less capable.]]
Obviously it’s a terrible thing to think, but Chi Fu would have seen her during the training montage. It could be argued that his prejudices are so deeply ingrained into his psyche that his memories rewrote themselves to fit with his beliefs the instant he foundout the truth about Mulan, but it if that were the case, it seems rather unlikely that he would instantly assume nearly getting stabbed by a falling sword was an elaborate murder attempt on Mulan’s part. While the audience knows that it wasn’t Mulan, but for his own theory to make sense to him, he would need to acknowledge that Mulan had the fighting skills required to throw a sword at him and only miss by a few inches. It's easy to see someone being strong. But it's hard to be able to figure out what someone's intentions are, and Mulan's more destructive acts, (being attributed with randomly firing a rocket while trying to ambush the huns)-stealing the last cannon in a chancy gambit so out there not even Mushu understood what she was doing, and it's pretty clear that everyone was ''pretty'' horrified as their supposedly loyal fellow soldier randomly grabbed the last cannon as it was being prepared to nuke the Hun leader and started running towards the enemy army with it)

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[[WMG: Mushu Is Actually An African-American Time traveler who was turned into a Dragon]]
Believe Or not There's proof! Mushu sonetimes Uses Modern talk and slang And plus he's Voiced by a [[Creator/EddieMurphy Black Actor]] Compared To the Rest of the voice cast Who Are Asian Descent But It possibly Suggest That Mushu was Acually A Human In Modern Times And He Was Transformed Into A Small Dragon In Ancient China Here Are Some Examples

: Mushu calling Mulan "Girl" Or Sleeping Beauty At One Point

: Mushu Metioning America OF ALL THINGS!!! Even though The Movie Takes Place Where America Dosen't Exist!!!

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I think What really Happened Was that A Man Named Eddie in The Year 1998 Was Suddenly Transported In Ancient China And Was Somewhat Transformed Into a Small Dragon And Was Brainwashed Into thinking he is a Spirit Guardian Called The Great Stone Dragon Thus He Helps A Young Chinese Woman Named Mulan With his memory Half Gone Only to mostly Remember his Human Self Of Saying Humorous Slang Lines Thus Mulan A Chinese woman All this time had A Talking Dragon Who Was Acually An African-American Man Learning Her how to Blend like A Man


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[[WMG: Mushu Is Actually An is actually an African-American Time time traveler who was turned into a Dragon]]
Believe Or not There's proof! Mushu sonetimes Uses Modern sometimes uses modern talk and slang And slang, plus he's Voiced voiced by a [[Creator/EddieMurphy Black Actor]] Compared To Actor]], as opposed to the Rest rest of the voice cast Who Are who are of Asian Descent But It possibly Suggest That descent. Mushu was Acually A Human In Modern Times And He Was Transformed Into A Small Dragon In Ancient China Here Are Some Examples

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I think What what really Happened Was happened was that A Man Named a man named Eddie in The Year the year 1998 Was Suddenly Transported In Ancient was suddenly transported to ancient China And Was Somewhat Transformed Into and was somehow transformed into a Small Dragon And Was Brainwashed Into small dragon and was brainwashed into thinking he is a Spirit Guardian Called The spirit guardian called the Great Stone Dragon Dragon. Thus He Helps A Young Chinese Woman Named Mulan With his memory Half Gone Only to mostly Remember his Human Self Of Saying Humorous Slang Lines Thus Mulan A he helps a young Chinese woman All named Mulan with his memory half gone, only to mostly remember his human self of saying humorous slang lines. Thus Mulan, a Chinese woman, all this time had A Talking Dragon Who Was Acually An a talking dragon who was acually an African-American Man Learning Her man learning her how to Blend blend in like A Man

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[[WMG: Chi Fu wasn't passing out at the end]]
If you look closely, you will notice that he falls ''backwards.'' When a human faints-truly involuntarily loses consciousness, they fall ''forwards.'' Ergo, he was throwing himself backwards on purpose. Why? Well, losing one job was major dishonor, and in the ancient days of the lands that Mulan takes place in, being dishonored in such a way required [[DrivenToSuicide one to take one's own life.]] He was probably hoping he would break his neck on the hard stone steps. Given he cameos in the sequel, this was unsuccessful.
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[[WMG: Mushu Is Actually An African-American Time traveler who was turned into a Dragon]]
Believe Or not There's proof! Mushu sonetimes Uses Modern talk and slang And plus he's Voiced by a [[Creator/EddieMurphy Black Actor]] Compared To the Rest of the voice cast Who Are Asian Descent But It possibly Suggest That Mushu was Acually A Human In Modern Times And He Was Transformed Into A Small Dragon In Ancient China Here Are Some Examples

: Mushu calling Mulan "Girl" Or Sleeping Beauty At One Point

: Mushu Metioning America OF ALL THINGS!!! Even though The Movie Takes Place Where America Dosen't Exist!!!

: Or What About Mushu Calling Male Characters "Man" instead Of their Own Names

I think What really Happened Was that A Man Named Eddie in The Year 1998 Was Suddenly Transported In Ancient China And Was Somewhat Transformed Into a Small Dragon And Was Brainwashed Into thinking he is a Spirit Guardian Called The Great Stone Dragon Thus He Helps A Young Chinese Woman Named Mulan With his memory Half Gone Only to mostly Remember his Human Self Of Saying Humorous Slang Lines Thus Mulan A Chinese woman All this time had A Talking Dragon Who Was Acually An African-American Man Learning Her how to Blend like A Man

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[[WMG: Mulan's heroics were all a result of a bet she made with Yao.]]
So basically, one night while on the march, Yao stole some booze and smuggled it into camp. Chien Po, who doesn't do alcohol, tried to talk them out of it, but couldn't, resorted to physically restraining them from the liquor, but was only able to physically restrain Ling. "Ping" didn't really want to get drunk, but then Yao called "him" a wimp, so that pretty much settled it. The two got completely wasted and while Chien Po forcibly held Ling down on the other side of camp, "Ping" and Yao got super silly, and they began to talk about all the awesome stuff they wanted to do when they got to battle the Huns, and then they got into an argument about which one was awesomer, Yao or "Ping".
They decided, again, while ''highly'' inebriated, to make a bet: If Ping saved China, then Yao would be "his" slave. If Yao saved China, then "Ping" would be his slave. And if ''neither'' of them saved China, then they would ''both'' be Ling's personal slave. Unfortunately, (or fortunately, depending on your perspective) they both remembered this detail from the night before, and Yao's ego kept him from letting "Ping" or himself back out of it. When the Huns first attacked, Shang arbitrarily chose Yao. Mulan, who despised the idea of being the slave of a hairy, pintsized, egotistical ladykiller, stole the cannon and was planning on shooting Shan Yu the way Yao was intended to until she couldn't get the flint working, when she changed her plans at the last possible second. Yao, seeing that "Ping" was struggling with the cannon, saw his chance to steal it back and win the bet, and thus called Ling and Chien Po to rush down to "him" with him under the paper-thin pretense of "helping". But Mulan ultimately won the bet with her avalanche. Yao didn't want to look a coward infront of the other guys, so he did his best to be a good slave for the next few hours-calling her "King of the Mountain", trying to stop her execution, but ultimately failed. Then China was endangered again, and Yao and Mulan both realized, that since Shan Yu had survived and had kidnapped the emperor, that the bet was still on. So Mulan, desperate to win, thought up the first idea that came to her head, and Yao followed along with Ling and Chien Po because he didn't have anything better to do. He still tried to wrest control of the operation by refusing to cut his side burns and keeping a banana instead of an orange, as well as stalling by asking if his dress made him look fat. But it was all for naught, and Mulan saved the day again. Yao tried one last time to salvage his status as non-slave, by "innocently" questioning whether or not it was legal for Mulan to hug the emperor. But it failed, and thus he spent the entirety of Mulan II as Mulan's slave. Nobody actually brought it up because Yao threatened to beat them into a pulp if they did.

PS: This is complete crack don't take it seriously.
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They seem pretty wealthy and well-to-do. [[ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes because they were hoping it would help her build character.]]

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They seem pretty wealthy and well-to-do. But they made Mulan do it instead because [[ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes because they were hoping it would help her build character.]]
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But they make Mulan do them instead [[ComicStrip/Calvin and Hobbes because they were trying to help her build character.]]

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But they make Mulan do them instead [[ComicStrip/Calvin They seem pretty wealthy and Hobbes well-to-do. [[ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes because they were trying to hoping it would help her build character.]]
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[[WMG: Mulan's parents are perfectly capable of hiring servants to do the household chores.]]
But they make Mulan do them instead [[ComicStrip/Calvin and Hobbes because they were trying to help her build character.]]
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[[StepfordSmiler They're just much, much better at hiding it.]]

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[[StepfordSmiler They're just much, much better at hiding it.]] Being a tomboy doesn't mean you're physically incapable of wearing make up or walking in fancy shoes, after all, it would just be more uncomfortable; The problem with Mulan might be that she has ADHD that makes it hard for her to focus on "lady training".
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\n[[WMG: There were plenty of other girls who felt the exact same way Mulan did.]]
[[StepfordSmiler They're just much, much better at hiding it.]]
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[[/note]] easy to anger[[note]]His default reaction to being insulted/wronged is to beat the ever loving daylights out of them, no matter how minor or inconsequential the insults are, and nursing a very potent grudge against such people long after the insults have passed[[/note]] violent, [[note]] See above notes [[/note]] Trouble with authority [[note]] He sasses Shang more then once and bullies recruits behind his back, and in the sequel takes part in instigating a bar brawl, a comment from Shang implies that this is normal behavior for all of the gang of three[[/note]]The main trait that distinguishes sociopaths from other human beings is their distinct lack of remorse-and indeed, Yao is never shown demonstrating the slightest bit of regret for his unnervingly violent deeds, which in real life would almost certainly end with a brush with the law. Case in point: When, consumed with fury over being called a "limp noodle", he immediately brutally assaults Mulan, (who he thought was the one who called him that)but accidentally attacks Ling instead. For most people giving someone who is supposedly their close friend acouple whacks hard enough to give them a black eye and knock a few teeth out would be quite distressing, Yao, however, just smiles awkwardly at his mistake, mutters an apology, and goes back to bringing down his main target. And, unlike Ling, who ''did'' make an apology to Mulan for their awful behavior, or Chien Po, who never really bullied her and seemed conflicted about seeing his friends doing such, Yao never apologizes and is arguably the most physically brutal in the bullying. Another piece of evidence is that Yao doesn't seem to have many friends other then Chien Po or Ling-possibly because everyone is simply too afraid of him. Chien Po would probably befriend a great white shark if given the chance, Ling seems very similar to Yao (albeit ''slightly'' less bad) As for his change in attitude towards Mulan, that is more him seeing her as a personal asset rather then a human being-he begins treating her better only after she becomes popular in camp, and she gives another person who will act as his audience, laugh at his jokes, etc. He mostly shows stronger feelings over Mulan after she's become a hero, and thereby increasing her value (being friends with a famous person, ya know-another thing about sociopaths is that they live a parasitic life style)

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[[/note]] easy to anger[[note]]His default reaction to being insulted/wronged is to beat the ever loving daylights out of them, no matter how minor or inconsequential the insults are, and nursing a very potent grudge against such people long after the insults insults/wrongs have passed[[/note]] violent, [[note]] See above notes [[/note]] Trouble with authority [[note]] He [[note]]He sasses both Chi Fu and Shang onscreen at least twice each, more then once and bullies recruits behind his back, their backs, and in the sequel takes part in instigating a bar brawl, a comment from Shang implies that this is normal behavior for all of the gang of three[[/note]]The three[[/note]] However, the main trait that distinguishes sociopaths from other human beings is their distinct lack of remorse-and indeed, Yao is never shown demonstrating the slightest bit of regret for his unnervingly violent deeds, which in real life would almost certainly end with a brush with the law. deeds. Case in point: When, consumed with fury over being called a "limp noodle", he immediately brutally assaults Mulan, (who he thought was the one who called him that)but accidentally attacks somehow, Ling instead. gets the brunt of his attack. For most people giving someone who is supposedly their close friend acouple whacks hard enough to give them a black eye and knock a few teeth out would be quite distressing, Yao, however, just merely smiles awkwardly at his mistake, mutters an apology, and goes back to bringing down his main target. And, unlike Ling, who ''did'' make an a (small) apology to Mulan for their awful behavior, or Chien Po, who never really bullied her and seemed conflicted about seeing his friends doing such, Yao never apologizes and is arguably the most physically brutal in the bullying. Another piece of evidence is that Yao doesn't seem to have many friends other then Chien Po or Ling-possibly Po, Ling, and Mulan-possibly because everyone is simply too afraid of him. him to try to form a bond. As for the friends he ''does'' have, well, Chien Po would probably befriend a great white shark if given the chance, Ling seems very similar to Yao (albeit ''slightly'' less bad) bad-at the very least, he has better self control) and Mulan is young, naïve, and eager to fit in. As for his change in attitude towards Mulan, that is more him seeing her as a personal asset rather then a human being-he begins treating her better only after she becomes popular in camp, and she gives another person who will act as his audience, laugh at his jokes, etc. He mostly shows stronger feelings over Mulan after she's become a hero, and thereby increasing her value (being friends with a famous person, ya know-another thing about sociopaths is that they live a parasitic life style)
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[[/note]] easy to anger[[note]]His default reaction to being insulted/wronged is to beat the ever loving daylights out of them, no matter how minor or inconsequential the insults are, and nursing a very potent grudge against such people long after the insults have passed[[/note]] violent, [[note]] See above notes [[/note]] Trouble with authority [[note]] He sasses Shang more then once and bullies recruits behind his back, and in the sequel takes part in instigating a bar brawl, a comment from Shang implies that this is normal behavior for all of the gang of three[[/note]]The main trait that distinguishes sociopaths from other human beings is their distinct lack of remorse-and indeed, Yao is never shown demonstrating the slightest bit of regret for his unnervingly violent deeds, which in real life would almost certainly end with a brush with the law. Case in point: When, consumed with fury over being called a "limp noodle", he immediately brutally assaults Mulan, (who he thought was the one who called him that)but accidentally attacks Ling instead. For most people giving someone who is supposedly their close friend acouple whacks hard enough to give them a black eye and knock a few teeth out would be quite distressing, Yao, however, just smiles awkwardly at his mistake, mutters an apology, and goes back to bringing down his main target. And, unlike Ling, who ''did'' make an apology to Mulan for their awful behavior, or Chien Po, who never really bullied her and seemed conflicted about seeing his friends doing such, Yao never apologizes and is arguably the most physically brutal in the bullying. Another piece of evidence is that Yao doesn't seem to have many friends other then Chien Po or Ling-possibly because everyone is simply too afraid of him. Chien Po would probably befriend a great white shark if given the chance, Ling seems very similar to Yao (albeit ''slightly'' less bad) As for his change in attitude towards Mulan, that is more him seeing her as a personal asset rather then a human being-he begins treating her better only after she becomes popular in camp, and she gives another person who will act as his audience, laugh at his jokes, etc. He mostly shows stronger feelings over Mulan after she's become a hero, and thereby increasing her value (being friends with a famous person, ya know-another thing about sociopaths is that they live a parasitical life style)
In the sequel, the romance between him and the young princess is fairly typical of a sociopath's modus operandi: Put on a superficial mask of charm for a few days and keep it up until she decides to get serious. The movie cuts off after that, which is probably a good thing, since the next part in that story would probably be a
''lot'' [[DomesticAbuse less]] [[AllTakeAndNoGive family friendly.]]

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[[/note]] easy to anger[[note]]His default reaction to being insulted/wronged is to beat the ever loving daylights out of them, no matter how minor or inconsequential the insults are, and nursing a very potent grudge against such people long after the insults have passed[[/note]] violent, [[note]] See above notes [[/note]] Trouble with authority [[note]] He sasses Shang more then once and bullies recruits behind his back, and in the sequel takes part in instigating a bar brawl, a comment from Shang implies that this is normal behavior for all of the gang of three[[/note]]The main trait that distinguishes sociopaths from other human beings is their distinct lack of remorse-and indeed, Yao is never shown demonstrating the slightest bit of regret for his unnervingly violent deeds, which in real life would almost certainly end with a brush with the law. Case in point: When, consumed with fury over being called a "limp noodle", he immediately brutally assaults Mulan, (who he thought was the one who called him that)but accidentally attacks Ling instead. For most people giving someone who is supposedly their close friend acouple whacks hard enough to give them a black eye and knock a few teeth out would be quite distressing, Yao, however, just smiles awkwardly at his mistake, mutters an apology, and goes back to bringing down his main target. And, unlike Ling, who ''did'' make an apology to Mulan for their awful behavior, or Chien Po, who never really bullied her and seemed conflicted about seeing his friends doing such, Yao never apologizes and is arguably the most physically brutal in the bullying. Another piece of evidence is that Yao doesn't seem to have many friends other then Chien Po or Ling-possibly because everyone is simply too afraid of him. Chien Po would probably befriend a great white shark if given the chance, Ling seems very similar to Yao (albeit ''slightly'' less bad) As for his change in attitude towards Mulan, that is more him seeing her as a personal asset rather then a human being-he begins treating her better only after she becomes popular in camp, and she gives another person who will act as his audience, laugh at his jokes, etc. He mostly shows stronger feelings over Mulan after she's become a hero, and thereby increasing her value (being friends with a famous person, ya know-another thing about sociopaths is that they live a parasitical parasitic life style)
In the sequel, the romance between him and the young princess is fairly typical of a sociopath's modus operandi: Put on a superficial mask of charm for a few days and keep it up until she decides to get serious. The movie cuts off after that, which is probably a good thing, since the next part in that story would probably be a
a ''lot'' [[DomesticAbuse less]] [[AllTakeAndNoGive family friendly.]]]]

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In the sequel, the romance between him and the young princess is fairly typical of a sociopath's modus operandi: Put on a superficial mask of charm for a few days and keep it up until she decides to get serious. The movie cuts off after that, which is probably a good thing, since the next part in that story would probably be a ''lot''
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In the sequel, the romance between him and the young princess is fairly typical of a sociopath's modus operandi: Put on a superficial mask of charm for a few days and keep it up until she decides to get serious. The movie cuts off after that, which is probably a good thing, since the next part in that story would probably be a ''lot''
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A low functioning one, to be exact. He displays several traits of one, including being impulsive [[note]] Some random guy is showing you his tattoo, that he thinks will protect him from injury? Sock him in the gut as hard as you can, ''just'' to prove a point![[/note]] easy to anger[[note]]His default reaction to being insulted/wronged is to beat the ever loving daylights out of them, no matter how minor or inconsequential the insults are, and nursing a very potent grudge against such people long after the insults have passed[[/note]] violent, [[note]] See above notes [[/note]] Trouble with authority [[note]] He sasses Shang more then once and bullies recruits behind his back, and in the sequel takes part in instigating a bar brawl, a comment from Shang implies that this is normal behavior for all of the gang of three[[/note]]The main trait that distinguishes sociopaths from other human beings is their distinct lack of remorse-and indeed, Yao is never shown demonstrating the slightest bit of regret for his unnervingly violent deeds, which in real life would almost certainly end with a brush with the law. Case in point: When, consumed with fury over being called a "limp noodle", he immediately brutally assaults Mulan, but accidentally attacks Ling instead. For most people giving someone who is supposedly their close friend acouple whacks hard enough to give them a black eye and knock a few teeth out
actions. Unlike Ling, who ''did'' make an apology to Mulan for their awful behavior, or Chien Po, who never really bullied her and seemed conflicted about seeing his friends doing such, Yao never apologizes and is arguably the most physically brutal in the bullying. Another piece of evidence is that Yao doesn't seem to have many friends other then Chien Po or Ling-possibly because everyone is simply too afraid of him.

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A low functioning one, to be exact. He displays several traits of one, including being impulsive [[note]] Some random guy is showing you his tattoo, that he thinks will protect him from injury? Sock him in the gut as hard as you can, ''just'' to prove a point![[/note]] point!]]
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easy to anger[[note]]His default reaction to being insulted/wronged is to beat the ever loving daylights out of them, no matter how minor or inconsequential the insults are, and nursing a very potent grudge against such people long after the insults have passed[[/note]] violent, [[note]] See above notes [[/note]] Trouble with authority [[note]] He sasses Shang more then once and bullies recruits behind his back, and in the sequel takes part in instigating a bar brawl, a comment from Shang implies that this is normal behavior for all of the gang of three[[/note]]The main trait that distinguishes sociopaths from other human beings is their distinct lack of remorse-and indeed, Yao is never shown demonstrating the slightest bit of regret for his unnervingly violent deeds, which in real life would almost certainly end with a brush with the law. Case in point: When, consumed with fury over being called a "limp noodle", he immediately brutally assaults Mulan, but (who he thought was the one who called him that)but accidentally attacks Ling instead. For most people giving someone who is supposedly their close friend acouple whacks hard enough to give them a black eye and knock a few teeth out
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out would be quite distressing, Yao, however, just smiles awkwardly at his mistake, mutters an apology, and goes back to bringing down his main target. And, unlike Ling, who ''did'' make an apology to Mulan for their awful behavior, or Chien Po, who never really bullied her and seemed conflicted about seeing his friends doing such, Yao never apologizes and is arguably the most physically brutal in the bullying. Another piece of evidence is that Yao doesn't seem to have many friends other then Chien Po or Ling-possibly because everyone is simply too afraid of him. Chien Po would probably befriend a great white shark if given the chance, Ling seems very similar to Yao (albeit ''slightly'' less bad) As for his change in attitude towards Mulan, that is more him seeing her as a personal asset rather then a human being-he begins treating her better only after she becomes popular in camp, and she gives another person who will act as his audience, laugh at his jokes, etc. He mostly shows stronger feelings over Mulan after she's become a hero, and thereby increasing her value (being friends with a famous person, ya know-another thing about sociopaths is that they live a parasitical life style)
In the sequel, the romance between him and the young princess is fairly typical of a sociopath's modus operandi: Put on a superficial mask of charm for a few days and keep it up until she decides to get serious. The movie cuts off after that, which is probably a good thing, since the next part in that story would probably be a ''lot''
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He is the physical manifestation of Mulan's "dark side". Mushu is all of the things that Mulan does that she regrets (wolf whistling girls on the march to fit in with the guys, cheating at the archery exercise) or stuff that she wants to do but stops herself from doing. Everything Mushu did was Mulan (with the help of some matches) and everything Mushu said or thought were just Mulan's idle musings. Mushu's introduction has many parallels to Mulan's decision: There's a task to be done, but something happens (Mulan's father is sick and lame; the stone dragon breaks) that causes them to go themselves. (Mulan thinks her father shouldn't have to, Mushu fears the ancestors' anger) However, while Mulan's departure is treated as a dramatic, beautiful, and heroic moment of a young heroine in the making, Mushu's is shown as a childish attempt to cover up for his own failing. It's later revealed that a large part of Mulan's decision to leave was to prove her self worth and "find herself". (While she was concerned about her father, before getting to the idea of going herself in his place, her Plan A) was running up to the conscriptions guy and begging him to just let her father off the hook and her plan B) begging her father just to not show up. Neither one worked very well. Mushu's "advice" to her is just her own terrible ideas, (note that she never gets angry at Mushu for getting Yao and Shang upset with her)Mushu biting Ling's butt really was some creature in the pond and instead of fleeing to the rock with her new friends, Mulan just swam to the shore. As for the letter, that was just Mulan herself. She was so guilt ridden by it that she repressed the memory.

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He is the physical manifestation of Mulan's "dark side". Mushu is all of the things that Mulan does that she regrets (wolf whistling girls on the march to fit in with the guys, cheating at the archery exercise) or stuff that she wants to do but stops herself from doing. Everything Mushu did was Mulan (with the help of some matches) and everything Mushu said or thought were just Mulan's idle musings. Mushu's introduction has many parallels to Mulan's decision: There's a task to be done, but something happens (Mulan's father is sick and lame; the stone dragon breaks) that causes them to go themselves. (Mulan thinks her father shouldn't have to, Mushu fears the ancestors' anger) However, while Mulan's departure is treated as a dramatic, beautiful, and heroic moment of a young heroine in the making, Mushu's is shown as a childish attempt to cover up for his own failing. It's later revealed that a large part of Mulan's decision to leave was to prove her self worth and "find herself". (While she was concerned about her father, before getting to the idea of going herself in his place, her Plan A) was running up to the conscriptions guy and begging him to just let her father off the hook and her plan B) begging her father just to not show up. Neither one worked very well. Mushu's "advice" to her is just her own terrible ideas, (note that she never gets angry at Mushu for getting Yao and Shang upset with her)Mushu her, that would be just getting angry with herself)Mushu biting Ling's butt really was some creature in the pond and instead of fleeing to the rock with her new friends, Mulan just swam to the shore. As for the letter, that was just Mulan herself. She was so guilt ridden by it that she repressed the memory.


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[[WMG: Yao is a clinical sociopath.]]
A low functioning one, to be exact. He displays several traits of one, including being impulsive [[note]] Some random guy is showing you his tattoo, that he thinks will protect him from injury? Sock him in the gut as hard as you can, ''just'' to prove a point![[/note]] easy to anger[[note]]His default reaction to being insulted/wronged is to beat the ever loving daylights out of them, no matter how minor or inconsequential the insults are, and nursing a very potent grudge against such people long after the insults have passed[[/note]] violent, [[note]] See above notes [[/note]] Trouble with authority [[note]] He sasses Shang more then once and bullies recruits behind his back, and in the sequel takes part in instigating a bar brawl, a comment from Shang implies that this is normal behavior for all of the gang of three[[/note]]The main trait that distinguishes sociopaths from other human beings is their distinct lack of remorse-and indeed, Yao is never shown demonstrating the slightest bit of regret for his unnervingly violent deeds, which in real life would almost certainly end with a brush with the law. Case in point: When, consumed with fury over being called a "limp noodle", he immediately brutally assaults Mulan, but accidentally attacks Ling instead. For most people giving someone who is supposedly their close friend acouple whacks hard enough to give them a black eye and knock a few teeth out
actions. Unlike Ling, who ''did'' make an apology to Mulan for their awful behavior, or Chien Po, who never really bullied her and seemed conflicted about seeing his friends doing such, Yao never apologizes and is arguably the most physically brutal in the bullying. Another piece of evidence is that Yao doesn't seem to have many friends other then Chien Po or Ling-possibly because everyone is simply too afraid of him.
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He is the physical manifestation of Mulan's "dark side". Mushu's introduction has many parallels to Mulan's decision: There's a task to be done, but something happens (Mulan's father is sick and lame; the stone dragon breaks) that causes them to go themselves. (Mulan thinks her father shouldn't have to, Mushu fears the ancestors' anger) However, while Mulan's departure is treated as a dramatic, beautiful, and heroic moment of a young heroine in the making, Mushu's is shown as a childish attempt to cover up for his own failing. It's later revealed that a large part of Mulan's decision to leave was to prove her self worth and "find herself". (While she was concerned about her father, before getting to the idea of going herself in his place, her Plan A) was running up to the conscriptions guy and begging him to just let her father off the hook and her plan B) begging her father just to not show up. Neither one worked very well. Mushu's "advice" to her is just her own terrible ideas, (note that she never gets angry at Mushu for getting Yao and Shang upset with her)Mushu biting Ling's butt really was some creature in the pond and instead of fleeing to the rock with her new friends, Mulan just swam to the shore. As for the letter, that was just Mulan herself. She was so guilt ridden by it that she repressed the memory.

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He is the physical manifestation of Mulan's "dark side". Mushu is all of the things that Mulan does that she regrets (wolf whistling girls on the march to fit in with the guys, cheating at the archery exercise) or stuff that she wants to do but stops herself from doing. Everything Mushu did was Mulan (with the help of some matches) and everything Mushu said or thought were just Mulan's idle musings. Mushu's introduction has many parallels to Mulan's decision: There's a task to be done, but something happens (Mulan's father is sick and lame; the stone dragon breaks) that causes them to go themselves. (Mulan thinks her father shouldn't have to, Mushu fears the ancestors' anger) However, while Mulan's departure is treated as a dramatic, beautiful, and heroic moment of a young heroine in the making, Mushu's is shown as a childish attempt to cover up for his own failing. It's later revealed that a large part of Mulan's decision to leave was to prove her self worth and "find herself". (While she was concerned about her father, before getting to the idea of going herself in his place, her Plan A) was running up to the conscriptions guy and begging him to just let her father off the hook and her plan B) begging her father just to not show up. Neither one worked very well. Mushu's "advice" to her is just her own terrible ideas, (note that she never gets angry at Mushu for getting Yao and Shang upset with her)Mushu biting Ling's butt really was some creature in the pond and instead of fleeing to the rock with her new friends, Mulan just swam to the shore. As for the letter, that was just Mulan herself. She was so guilt ridden by it that she repressed the memory.
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[[WMG: Mushu isn't real.]]
He is the physical manifestation of Mulan's "dark side". Mushu's introduction has many parallels to Mulan's decision: There's a task to be done, but something happens (Mulan's father is sick and lame; the stone dragon breaks) that causes them to go themselves. (Mulan thinks her father shouldn't have to, Mushu fears the ancestors' anger) However, while Mulan's departure is treated as a dramatic, beautiful, and heroic moment of a young heroine in the making, Mushu's is shown as a childish attempt to cover up for his own failing. It's later revealed that a large part of Mulan's decision to leave was to prove her self worth and "find herself". (While she was concerned about her father, before getting to the idea of going herself in his place, her Plan A) was running up to the conscriptions guy and begging him to just let her father off the hook and her plan B) begging her father just to not show up. Neither one worked very well. Mushu's "advice" to her is just her own terrible ideas, (note that she never gets angry at Mushu for getting Yao and Shang upset with her)Mushu biting Ling's butt really was some creature in the pond and instead of fleeing to the rock with her new friends, Mulan just swam to the shore. As for the letter, that was just Mulan herself. She was so guilt ridden by it that she repressed the memory.
**In the sequel, Mulan is worried that once she gets married, she'll lose her status as a hero and just be "Shang's wife". Her feelings for Shang and the blow to her self worth and identity come into violent conflict with eachother, and she rapidly alternates between trying to sabotage her own relationship and then quickly fixing her own actions. (She is sixteen and after all the highs and lows she's been through in such a short amount of time, she would be on a hormonal rollercoaster) The ending could be interpreted as Mulan coming clean to Shang about her (mis)deeds as Mushu, and Shang forgiving her.
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* Khan would have been either sold into slavery or worse, slaughtered. Mushu would have left in disgrace, too ashamed to return to the Fa family, or discovered and captured by Chi-Fu and the Chinese Army. Cri-Kee would have had a HeroicBSOD and would have frozen to death in the mountain snow.

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* Khan would have been either sold into slavery or worse, slaughtered. Mushu would have left in disgrace, too ashamed to return to the Fa family, or discovered and captured by Chi-Fu and the Chinese Army. Cri-Kee would have had a HeroicBSOD and would have frozen to death in the mountain snow.snow, or Squished by Chi-Fu.
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* Khan would have been either sold into slavery or worse, slaughtered. Mushu would have left in disgrace, too ashamed to return to the Fa family. Cri-Kee would have had a HeroicBSOD and would have frozen to death in the mountain snow.
* Chi-Fu and the rest of the Chinese army would have been killed attempting to rescue the Emperor.

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* Khan would have been either sold into slavery or worse, slaughtered. Mushu would have left in disgrace, too ashamed to return to the Fa family.family, or discovered and captured by Chi-Fu and the Chinese Army. Cri-Kee would have had a HeroicBSOD and would have frozen to death in the mountain snow.
* Chi-Fu and the The rest of the Chinese army would have been killed attempting to rescue the Emperor. Chi-Fu Would halved served Shan Yu, and help him and the Huns Kill the Fa Family for Mulan's so called treason.
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[[WMG: Mulan is a [[TabletopGame/PrincessTheHopeful Princess]].]]
* Clearly a Champion calling, and probably Court of Hearts going by her emphasis on her duties to her family and especially her father. It would help explain how she managed to improve so quickly in the "I'll make a man out of you" montage, she was picking up useful Charms on top of developing mundane skill. And Holy Shield helps explain how she survived some of the stunts she pulled.
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[[WMG: Chi-Fu isn't real.]]
Think about it. He only shows up to start a conflict-deliver conscriptions, trying to get Mulan executed, he only does one thing genuinely beneficial, and he needs to be tricked into doing it. Down to his name, which doesn't really seem to be a real chinese name (though this troper could be wrong) but means "to bully" like having a boy named Bob, a girl named Alice, and a boy named "Beater-Upper" You can clearly see that Beater-Upper is the odd name out, no? So Chi-Fu isn't real at all, just a combination of various antagonistic forces, ideas, and a mixture of experiences with real people. He's whatever the characters happen to be struggling with at the moment. Mulan is struggling with the misogyny of the culture, so he appears to her as a huge honking misogynist. Shang is struggling with self-doubt and the urge to be a good commander and impress his father despite his little experience, so Chi-Fu antagonizes him over that. The emperor worries about whether he's chosen the right people for positions so Chi-Fu appears as an ObstructiveBeaurocrat/ProfessionalButtKisser. The physical representation is just a metaphor for the audience's conveniance.
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[[WMG: Chi-Fu isn't real.]]
Think about it. He only shows up to start a conflict-deliver conscriptions, trying to get Mulan executed, he only does one thing genuinely beneficial, and he needs to be tricked into doing it. Down to his name, which doesn't really seem to be a real chinese name (though this troper could be wrong) but means "to bully" like having a boy named Bob, a girl named Alice, and a boy named "Beater-Upper" You can clearly see that Beater-Upper is the odd name out, no? So Chi-Fu isn't real at all, just a combination of various antagonistic forces, ideas, and a mixture of experiences with real people. He's whatever the characters happen to be struggling with at the moment. Mulan is struggling with the misogyny of the culture, so he appears to her as a huge honking misogynist. Shang is struggling with self-doubt and the urge to be a good commander and impress his father despite his little experience, so Chi-Fu antagonizes him over that. The emperor worries about whether he's chosen the right people for positions so Chi-Fu appears as an ObstructiveBeaurocrat/ProfessionalButtKisser. The physical representation is just a metaphor for the audience's conveniance.

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[[WMG: Chi-Fu is gay.]]
Of course the above makes more sense, but he does have some very ''interesting'' mannerisms, and even if his dislike of women mostly stems from sexism he just seems to have this pure "girls are ''gross''!" attitude, not a "Girls are gross but kind of pretty" Even if he sings a line in "A girl worth fighting for", he's the only singer who doesn't say what about girls he finds ''attractive'', because he ''doesn't'' find girls attractive, period. He joins in the song purely to socialize (and to one up the soldiers, which, of course, backfires)

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[[WMG: Chi-Fu wasn't in the Emperor's good graces even before his actions in the imperial city]]
Some people have pointed out that it's unlikely the emperor's advisor would be sent to deliver conscriptions and oversee a small troop of a fledgeling commander. It's possible that the emperor wasn't oblivious to his brown nosing and unpleasant attitude and this was a sort of "last chance" thing or some sort of punishment. His treatment of the Emperor's savior was just the last straw.
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The real moment of truth is actually during the [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome incredibly underrated score]] of "Short Hair". Mulan, who was previously going only by what others said, is making a choice for herself and running off to the war. In the camp, Mulan is every bit as awkward as she was with the matchmaker, only on a different plane. The difference is that she couldn't just go home after all the worry she's probably caused her family, she had to stick it out as long as she could. It's got nothing to do with "who she really is", it's more to do with her basically being forced to stick with something until she finally found her niche.

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The real moment of truth is actually during the [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic incredibly underrated score]] of "Short Hair". Mulan, who was previously going only by what others said, is making a choice for herself and running off to the war. In the camp, Mulan is every bit as awkward as she was with the matchmaker, only on a different plane. The difference is that she couldn't just go home after all the worry she's probably caused her family, she had to stick it out as long as she could. It's got nothing to do with "who she really is", it's more to do with her basically being forced to stick with something until she finally found her niche.

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