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Aside from the obvious fact that they're both dark-skinned blondes, imagining them as brother and sister isn't much of a stretch. Keep in mind, if he's Fortune's brother, this would also make him the son of Scott Dolph, the Marine Corps Commandant from VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2. If he's the son of a Marine officer and the brother of a professional terrorist, it's not hard to imagine where he got the skills necessary to make it big as an arms dealer. And by my count, this would also make Ocelot responsible for the deaths of two of his immediate family (for all we know, they're the only family he's got). That would give him more than enough reason to want to make Ocelot's life hell with his arms dealing business. It might also explain his fixation with Solid Snake, and why he conveniently turns up wherever Snake is -- it's only natural that he would want to meet the guy who stood the best chance of avenging his family.
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Aside from the obvious fact that they're both dark-skinned blondes, imagining them as brother and sister isn't much of a stretch. Keep in mind, if he's Fortune's brother, this would also make him the son of Scott Dolph, the Marine Corps Commandant from VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2.VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty. If he's the son of a Marine officer and the brother of a professional terrorist, it's not hard to imagine where he got the skills necessary to make it big as an arms dealer. And by my count, this would also make Ocelot responsible for the deaths of two of his immediate family (for all we know, they're the only family he's got). That would give him more than enough reason to want to make Ocelot's life hell with his arms dealing business. It might also explain his fixation with Solid Snake, and why he conveniently turns up wherever Snake is -- it's only natural that he would want to meet the guy who stood the best chance of avenging his family.
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Despite [[WMG/DeathNote theories to the contrary]], a constant string of celebrity deaths needs many more than 23 days to properly orchestrate and execute. Hence the use of FOXDIE as a smokescreen by the Patriots to lure public attention away from their 1500-page climate control bill, designed to control the amount of carbon humans can use as yet another extension of the S3 Project.
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Despite [[WMG/DeathNote theories to the contrary]], a constant string of celebrity deaths needs many more than 23 days to properly orchestrate and execute. Hence the use of FOXDIE [[VirusAndCureNames FOXDIE]] as a smokescreen by the Patriots to lure public attention away from their 1500-page climate control bill, designed to control the amount of carbon humans can use as yet another extension of the S3 Project.
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[[WMG: FoxDie and Liquid Ocelot]]
There's a plot hole with the fact that despite all the intimate contact between Snake and Ocelot after the new FoxDie strain is injected into him, Ocelot doesn't die until he goes back to his true self at the end. We know he was a target for the FoxDie so it should be his DNA sequence ... But he did take the vaccine for it. If that isn't true, the Liquid ruse was to fool the Patriots to send Snake after him the same way they did back on Shadow Moses ... And just like then they put in Liquid's DNA, and probably in place of Ocelots due to them not being able to tell the difference. "Liquid is causing trouble. He should be dead. Make him a target." "Affirmative JD, what about Ocelot?" "We lost contact with him a while ago. Presumed deceased." So he didn't die because he wasn't Liquid. Alternatively to that, they programmed Liquid's DNA to trigger it expecting the transplanted arm to set off the virus but didn't anticipate that the biological arm was removed long beforehand.
There's a plot hole with the fact that despite all the intimate contact between Snake and Ocelot after the new FoxDie strain is injected into him, Ocelot doesn't die until he goes back to his true self at the end. We know he was a target for the FoxDie so it should be his DNA sequence ... But he did take the vaccine for it. If that isn't true, the Liquid ruse was to fool the Patriots to send Snake after him the same way they did back on Shadow Moses ... And just like then they put in Liquid's DNA, and probably in place of Ocelots due to them not being able to tell the difference. "Liquid is causing trouble. He should be dead. Make him a target." "Affirmative JD, what about Ocelot?" "We lost contact with him a while ago. Presumed deceased." So he didn't die because he wasn't Liquid. Alternatively to that, they programmed Liquid's DNA to trigger it expecting the transplanted arm to set off the virus but didn't anticipate that the biological arm was removed long beforehand.
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[[WMG: FoxDie [=FoxDie=] and Liquid Ocelot]]
There's a plot hole with the fact that despite all the intimate contact between Snake and Ocelot after the newFoxDie [=FoxDie=] strain is injected into him, Ocelot doesn't die until he goes back to his true self at the end. We know he was a target for the FoxDie [=FoxDie=] so it should be his DNA sequence ... But he did take the vaccine for it. If that isn't true, the Liquid ruse was to fool the Patriots to send Snake after him the same way they did back on Shadow Moses ... And just like then they put in Liquid's DNA, and probably in place of Ocelots due to them not being able to tell the difference. "Liquid is causing trouble. He should be dead. Make him a target." "Affirmative JD, what about Ocelot?" "We lost contact with him a while ago. Presumed deceased." So he didn't die because he wasn't Liquid. Alternatively to that, they programmed Liquid's DNA to trigger it expecting the transplanted arm to set off the virus but didn't anticipate that the biological arm was removed long beforehand.
There's a plot hole with the fact that despite all the intimate contact between Snake and Ocelot after the new
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Aside from the obvious fact that they're both {{Dark Skinned Blonde}}s, imagining them as brother and sister isn't much of a stretch. Keep in mind, if he's Fortune's brother, this would also make him the son of Scott Dolph, the Marine Corps Commandant from VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2. If he's the son of a Marine officer and the brother of a professional terrorist, it's not hard to imagine where he got the skills necessary to make it big as an arms dealer. And by my count, this would also make Ocelot responsible for the deaths of two of his immediate family (for all we know, they're the only family he's got). That would give him more than enough reason to want to make Ocelot's life hell with his arms dealing business. It might also explain his fixation with Solid Snake, and why he conveniently turns up wherever Snake is -- it's only natural that he would want to meet the guy who stood the best chance of avenging his family.
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Aside from the obvious fact that they're both {{Dark Skinned Blonde}}s, dark-skinned blondes, imagining them as brother and sister isn't much of a stretch. Keep in mind, if he's Fortune's brother, this would also make him the son of Scott Dolph, the Marine Corps Commandant from VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2. If he's the son of a Marine officer and the brother of a professional terrorist, it's not hard to imagine where he got the skills necessary to make it big as an arms dealer. And by my count, this would also make Ocelot responsible for the deaths of two of his immediate family (for all we know, they're the only family he's got). That would give him more than enough reason to want to make Ocelot's life hell with his arms dealing business. It might also explain his fixation with Solid Snake, and why he conveniently turns up wherever Snake is -- it's only natural that he would want to meet the guy who stood the best chance of avenging his family.
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Moving it to the main Metal Gear WMG page
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[[WMG: The Dr. Clark and Donald Anderson described in EVA's story aren't actually the Para-Medic and Sigint from Snake Eater]]
Rather, they were just [[EvilDoppelganger Evil Doppelgangers]] who stole their identities and carried out illegal acts under their names. EVA didn't know this, which is why she assumed they were the same people.
While Sigint and Para-Medic were responsible for helping Zero out with creating out the Patriots and the Les Enfant Terribles project, just like Zero, they ended up feeling remorse for it and attempted to fix things, only for it to ultimately fail after Skull Face's hostile take-over of Cipher. Angry that Sigint and Para-Medic refused to work under his management and still had UndyingLoyalty to Zero, he ordered them to be killed and had them replaced by doppelgangers (the same ones who will end up doing nasty things in the future and ultimately meet a violent KarmicDeath). While Sigint and Para-Medic managed to escape, they retired afterwards and went into hiding, living out the rest of their lives peacefully.
[[WMG: Zero actually did get the parasites he was infected with cured at some point]]
Which happened shortly after his visit with Snake in the Cyprus hospital in 1977, he just kept it a secret from everyone, retired, and went into hiding, living out a few more decades before eventually succumbing to dementia as a result of natural old age (that's why we still see him as a vegetable at the end of this game). Because the parasites still left him permanently disabled, he is put in a nursing home, and because of memory loss, he ended up forgetting about Jack and the Patriots altogether.
Relating to the above WMG, Para-Medic and Sigint eventually got into contact with him and were able to reunite with their former commander. They were able to keep him company throughout his elderly years and Para-Medic wounds up getting a job at the nursing home Zero stayed in.
[[WMG: The Dr. Clark and Donald Anderson described in EVA's story aren't actually the Para-Medic and Sigint from Snake Eater]]
Rather, they were just [[EvilDoppelganger Evil Doppelgangers]] who stole their identities and carried out illegal acts under their names. EVA didn't know this, which is why she assumed they were the same people.
While Sigint and Para-Medic were responsible for helping Zero out with creating out the Patriots and the Les Enfant Terribles project, just like Zero, they ended up feeling remorse for it and attempted to fix things, only for it to ultimately fail after Skull Face's hostile take-over of Cipher. Angry that Sigint and Para-Medic refused to work under his management and still had UndyingLoyalty to Zero, he ordered them to be killed and had them replaced by doppelgangers (the same ones who will end up doing nasty things in the future and ultimately meet a violent KarmicDeath). While Sigint and Para-Medic managed to escape, they retired afterwards and went into hiding, living out the rest of their lives peacefully.
[[WMG: Zero actually did get the parasites he was infected with cured at some point]]
Which happened shortly after his visit with Snake in the Cyprus hospital in 1977, he just kept it a secret from everyone, retired, and went into hiding, living out a few more decades before eventually succumbing to dementia as a result of natural old age (that's why we still see him as a vegetable at the end of this game). Because the parasites still left him permanently disabled, he is put in a nursing home, and because of memory loss, he ended up forgetting about Jack and the Patriots altogether.
Relating to the above WMG, Para-Medic and Sigint eventually got into contact with him and were able to reunite with their former commander. They were able to keep him company throughout his elderly years and Para-Medic wounds up getting a job at the nursing home Zero stayed in.
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It's just locked off after the air vent.
[[WMG: The Dr. Clark and Donald Anderson described in EVA's story aren't actually the Para-Medic and Sigint from Snake Eater]]
Rather, they were just [[EvilDoppelganger Evil Doppelgangers]] who stole their identities and carried out illegal acts under their names. EVA didn't know this, which is why she assumed they were the same people.
While Sigint and Para-Medic were responsible for helping Zero out with creating out the Patriots and the Les Enfant Terribles project, just like Zero, they ended up feeling remorse for it and attempted to fix things, only for it to ultimately fail after Skull Face's hostile take-over of Cipher. Angry that Sigint and Para-Medic refused to work under his management and still had UndyingLoyalty to Zero, he ordered them to be killed and had them replaced by doppelgangers (the same ones who will end up doing nasty things in the future and ultimately meet a violent KarmicDeath). While Sigint and Para-Medic managed to escape, they retired afterwards and went into hiding, living out the rest of their lives peacefully.
[[WMG: Zero actually did get the parasites he was infected with cured at some point]]
Which happened shortly after his visit with Snake in the Cyprus hospital in 1977, he just kept it a secret from everyone, retired, and went into hiding, living out a few more decades before eventually succumbing to dementia as a result of natural old age (that's why we still see him as a vegetable at the end of this game). Because the parasites still left him permanently disabled, he is put in a nursing home, and because of memory loss, he ended up forgetting about Jack and the Patriots altogether.
Relating to the above WMG, Para-Medic and Sigint eventually got into contact with him and were able to reunite with their former commander. They were able to keep him company throughout his elderly years and Para-Medic wounds up getting a job at the nursing home Zero stayed in.vent.
[[WMG: The Dr. Clark and Donald Anderson described in EVA's story aren't actually the Para-Medic and Sigint from Snake Eater]]
Rather, they were just [[EvilDoppelganger Evil Doppelgangers]] who stole their identities and carried out illegal acts under their names. EVA didn't know this, which is why she assumed they were the same people.
While Sigint and Para-Medic were responsible for helping Zero out with creating out the Patriots and the Les Enfant Terribles project, just like Zero, they ended up feeling remorse for it and attempted to fix things, only for it to ultimately fail after Skull Face's hostile take-over of Cipher. Angry that Sigint and Para-Medic refused to work under his management and still had UndyingLoyalty to Zero, he ordered them to be killed and had them replaced by doppelgangers (the same ones who will end up doing nasty things in the future and ultimately meet a violent KarmicDeath). While Sigint and Para-Medic managed to escape, they retired afterwards and went into hiding, living out the rest of their lives peacefully.
[[WMG: Zero actually did get the parasites he was infected with cured at some point]]
Which happened shortly after his visit with Snake in the Cyprus hospital in 1977, he just kept it a secret from everyone, retired, and went into hiding, living out a few more decades before eventually succumbing to dementia as a result of natural old age (that's why we still see him as a vegetable at the end of this game). Because the parasites still left him permanently disabled, he is put in a nursing home, and because of memory loss, he ended up forgetting about Jack and the Patriots altogether.
Relating to the above WMG, Para-Medic and Sigint eventually got into contact with him and were able to reunite with their former commander. They were able to keep him company throughout his elderly years and Para-Medic wounds up getting a job at the nursing home Zero stayed in.
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While Sigint and Para-Medic were responsible for helping Zero out with creating out the Patriots and the Les Enfant Terribles project, just like Zero, they ended up feeling remorse for it and attempted to fix things, only for it to ultimately fail after Skull Face's hostile take-over of Cipher. Angry that Sigint and Para-Medic refused to work under his management and still had UndyingLoyalty to Zero, he ordered them to be killed and had them replaced by doppelgangers (the same ones who will end up doing nasty things in the future and ultimately meet a violent KarmicDeath). While Sigint and Para-Medic managed to escape, they retired afterwards and went into hiding, living out the rest of their lives peacefully.
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While Sigint and Para-Medic were responsible for helping Zero out with creating out the Patriots and the Les Enfant Terribles project, just like Zero, they ended up feeling remorse for it and attempted to fix things, only for it to ultimately fail after Skull Face's hostile take-over of Cipher. Angry that Sigint and Para-Medic refused to work under his management and still had UndyingLoyalty to Zero, he ordered them to be killed and had them replaced by doppelgangers (the same ones who will end up doing nasty things in the future and ultimately meet a violent KarmicDeath). While Sigint and Para-Medic managed to escape, they retired afterwards and went into hiding, living out the rest of their lives peacefully.peacefully.
[[WMG: Zero actually did get the parasites he was infected with cured at some point]]
Which happened shortly after his visit with Snake in the Cyprus hospital in 1977, he just kept it a secret from everyone, retired, and went into hiding, living out a few more decades before eventually succumbing to dementia as a result of natural old age (that's why we still see him as a vegetable at the end of this game). Because the parasites still left him permanently disabled, he is put in a nursing home, and because of memory loss, he ended up forgetting about Jack and the Patriots altogether.
Relating to the above WMG, Para-Medic and Sigint eventually got into contact with him and were able to reunite with their former commander. They were able to keep him company throughout his elderly years and Para-Medic wounds up getting a job at the nursing home Zero stayed in.
[[WMG: Zero actually did get the parasites he was infected with cured at some point]]
Which happened shortly after his visit with Snake in the Cyprus hospital in 1977, he just kept it a secret from everyone, retired, and went into hiding, living out a few more decades before eventually succumbing to dementia as a result of natural old age (that's why we still see him as a vegetable at the end of this game). Because the parasites still left him permanently disabled, he is put in a nursing home, and because of memory loss, he ended up forgetting about Jack and the Patriots altogether.
Relating to the above WMG, Para-Medic and Sigint eventually got into contact with him and were able to reunite with their former commander. They were able to keep him company throughout his elderly years and Para-Medic wounds up getting a job at the nursing home Zero stayed in.
