History WMG / MegamanX

* The manual for ''VideoGame/MegaManX4'' explains that Repliforce's inability to quell the massive spike in Maverick activity led to some suspecting that Repliforce were secretly Mavericks themselves. Combined with Sigma's visit to General to explain to him how humans will throw reploids aside when they're no longer needed, and it's more than enough to sow distrust in their masters. So when Sky Lagoon is destroyed and Repliforce is a prime suspect, Colonel could've suspected that they'll simply be retired as soon as they surrender, and decided that as a warrior it's better for Repliforce to risk their lives in defiance than to surrender and get a bullet.

...And in the inevitable ''X9'', it will have 16-Bit graphics... But then it switches to 32-Bit in inopportune moments, and X is the only one that notices. The reason I say X is in a LotusEaterMachine is that (while I haven't played the games...) there's a few contradictions or bad quality in ''X6'' to ''X8'', but why would these contradictions keep happening? And why did Zero come back to life? Simple, X refuses to believe his friend is gone, therefore he's trying to keep himself in a world where he feels like he's with his best friend, and Axl, he's never known him, he's just a spy thrown in the LotusEaterMachine to make sure X doesn't catch on, and when it's revealed, Axl will be the final boss ''and'' [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome you get to kill him in a]] OneWingedAngel, X will finally wake up, finally accepting that Zero, his long-time friend, is no longer here...

[[WMG: Possible X Challenge Maverick pairings.]]

To fully understand the ramifications of the above, we need to consider what makes a difference between a Reploid and a Robot Master. With this assumption, it's not that free will that separates them -- [[RequiredSecondaryPowers it's a side effect]]. The main difference is actually [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_digital_data_storage multiplying the data that can be stored in a robot]], which can be used for virtual reality training, [[VideoGame/MegaManZero keeping track of events for centuries]], referencing depth perceptions and objects in context, and have the Suffering Circuit be more than just a shock collar. Theoretically, the data would be stored on synthetic cells on the "head" of the machine, functioning as brain cells without as much metabolism. However, this puts the Maverick Virus in a whole new light -- [[TheVirus it may be an organic virus (potentially airborne]]) almost with the lethality of the [[ResidentEvil T-virus]]. Speaking of lethality...

*** All we know is that Cain Labs made Repliforce and for some reason they had HonorBeforeReason to the point of suicidal stupidity. I was trying to explain ''why'' they were so stubbornly loyal and why they were programmed that way beyond simply 'because we need an excuse for a game'. My ''X4'' manual is buried deep in my garage, but I've checked [[http://megaman.wikia.com/wiki/Mega_Man_X4 the wikis]] and nothing there explains why they were fanatically loyal nutcases. There's a reason why people scratch their heads on why Colonel and the others were just so unreasonable and somewhat disturbingly cult-like (the salute, anyone?), even on this very wiki (see JustBugsMe, WhatAnIdiot, etc). It might be just me, but I wanted to come up with an actual ''reason''. Anyone get what I'm trying to say, here?

** That was my thought, as well. [[AdultFear What's worse for a parent]] than knowing that [[NotAllowedToGrowUp your kids will never grow up]], never be able to think for themselves, and never be able to survive on their own once you're gone? Light felt immensely guilty for essentially [[AndIMustScream condemning Mega Man and Roll to this existence]], [[MyGreatestSecondChance and created X as a way to make up for it.]] Back in the day, it wasn't uncommon for players unfamiliar with X's backstory to mistake him for a "grown-up" original Mega Man. My guess is that [[IntendedAudienceReaction this was exactly what Dr. Light was going for]], and why he based X so heavily on Rock's design: if Rock was a normal human boy, X would be that same boy as an adult.

[[WMG: The capsules does'nt happen to be where the Mavericks' bases are, the maverick bases are built where the capsules are.]]

* MHX4: Now this is where it diverges: It takes after X6's events. Gate found a piece of Zero's DNA in Doppler's lab wreckage, not the Eurasia crash site. Then he uses it to create Nightmares and then spread it across the world for his plan of a better world. This time, as Isoc (who may be Serges... who may be Wily) is announcing the threat of "Zero Nightmare" to the populace, Zero's reputation is in danger... because Zero himself is still alive (think Dr. Light being framed in MegaMan9) and X knows it. Either X and Zero are playable from the start, or like X6, Zero goes into hiding (whether X knows or not; X may even insists he has to hide) and X has to defeat this imposter to clean Zero's name; once ZN is defeated, Zero is playable. The rest of the game proceeds as normal, including Sigma's botched resurrection by Gate (this time it's because it's hard to bring him back when he was defeated by an antivirus). Oh, and Dynamo doesn't appear here, instead being replaced by some other villain (maybe even a new guy).

Timeline A ends with Mega Man X5, and this leads into the Mega Man Zero series, than Mega Man ZX. Timeline B continues with MM X6 through X8 and Command Mission, then leads into Mega Man Legends. In Timeline B, Dr. Light made sure to remove all of Zero's Maverick programming, which Gate salvages for himself.

* (not the original troper) YES. PLEASE. And while we're at it, let's have {{Creator/Yuri Lowenthal}} voice X since we've got [[Creator.JohnnyYongBosch JYB]] as Zero!

* Jossed, Serges made it himself when X-Hunters seize Zero's remains.

In the final battle of ''X2'', X winds up [[OffWithHisHead severing Sigma's body and head apart at the neck]]. So as the Sigma Virus emerges from Sigma's lifeless corpse, [[LosingYourHead Sigma's head hops and rolls away]] from the body and from the bulk of the Virus that X begins to battle. As X defeats the Sigma Virus entity, Sigma's head (with the control ship still inside) manages to jump onto a rocket launcher to blast it far away from there, [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere taking the Coward's Way Out to some degree]]. He doesn't care whether it kills him or just relocates his head to start a new life as a reploid other than Sigma, as long as he is away from the bulk of the Virus. He wants to stop walking in Sigma's shoes, living with the "main villain" reputation any longer. The blastoff ends up breaking his control chip into two pieces -- the bigger piece thankfully staying attached within his head, wherever it lands. The moment the Sigma Virus saw Sigma's head start to blast off, the Virus took the small piece of control chip left behind to quickly fuse with it again before the control center blows up completely. But because Sigma's head is no longer there, the most of Sigma the Virus can get back is a personality similar to Sigma's and some of his memories.

Compared to Mega Man's design, X is far more advanced in both specs and abilities, to the point that he was super-advanced even a ''century'' in the future. Where did this major technological leap come from? The answer is when Doctor Light helped repair the highly-advanced alien robot Duo in ''8''. Although he wouldn't be able to understand everything, he understood enough to repair Duo with all his strength and powers. Doctor Light was heavily inspired by what he managed to reverse-engineer while repairing Duo and applied the same technological advances when creating X.

* Even in the pre-reboot games it wasn't revealed until X2's events that Sigma became a virus, and it wasn't until some time after X2 that awareness of the virus spread enough for Doppler to announce a treatment for it. None of the Mavericks in X1 served Sigma from being corrupted by the virus (like Storm Eagle following Sigma after losing to him in a duel), which is notable here since none of their backstories were changed for MHX. Sigma's lack of a ''I'll return'' message could be a case of {{You Should Know This Already}} (that is, the player is familiar enough with Mega Man X to know that Sigma comes back after his death in X1/MHX).

We already know that X can copy the abilities of others and constantly alter his own body/weapons to accomodate new weapons and armors. However, Maverick Hunter X heavily implies that X has a much greater potential than that -- Doctor Light says he named X after the variable that symbolizes unlimited potential, to learn and grow far beyond his original specifications. ''MHX'' gives us the perfect example; X had been taken by surprise and critically injured by Sigma, had lost his buster arm, and was in serious danger of being killed. What did his systems do? ''Found an alternate solution.'' Faced with certain death, his systems spontaneously altered themselves so his other hand could become a weapon and then pushed itself into overdrive so he could overcome his damage long enough to fight back. Basically, X gained a new weapon ''on the spot'' without any outside data. The implications of this are huge -- a robot that can constantly change and gain new abilities without any outside interference, a new independent being and the first of a true species.

* Thanks, now I'm imagining Rangda Bangda saying "Welcome to Nick Jr! Doo doo DOOOOOOO!".

** Uh...You do know that WMG is for ''WildMassGuessing'' and not things that are confirmed and stated outright in the game's instruction manual, right?

* Forget not doing what they're told, and forget humans being paranoid. Repliforce was responsible for a lot of deaths and Sigma was involved. The question the world would have asked was, 'did Reploids just help Sigma kill, destroy, etc.' ''willingly'' or was Repliforce really infected the whole time, the way it turned out the people in the initial rebellion were, and the virus was even better than they thought? Either way, Repliforce would have started a witch hunt and seriously hurt Reploid morale as well as human.

* (Response) Pretty sure nobody in universe would know or even care about that meeting, especially one where General finds nothing worthwhile from. More importantly, Maverick Hunters call the Repliforce for questioning because they were seen on the site when Sky Lagoon crashed. General was forced to declare independence for Repliforce because they were accused as Mavericks... because ''his own second in command'' Colonel refuse to drop their weapons and explain themselves - because of his own pride and honor.

VideoGame/TatsunokoVsCapcom revealed that he was around post-''X7'', at least, since Axl was in the ending. Since X, Zero, and Axl don't know enough about him, they won't be alerted to his presence until it's too late. While Sigma dropped hints in ''X5'' that let the ''viewers'' know who Wily was, the heroes are still clueless.

...And in the inevitable ''X9'', it will have 16-Bit graphics... But then it switches to 32-Bit in inopportune moments, and X is the only one that notices. The reason I say X is in a LotusEaterMachine is that (while I haven't played the games...) there's a few contradictions or bad quality in ''X6'' to ''X8'', but why would these contradictions keep happening? And why did Zero come back to life? Simple, X refuses to believe his friend is gone, therefore he's trying to keep himself in a world where he feels like he's with his best friend, and Axl, he's never known him, he's just a spy thrown in the LotusEaterMachine to make sure X doesn't catch on, and when it's revealed Axl is the final boss ''and'' [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome you get to kill him in a]] OneWingedAngel, X will finally wake up, finally accepting that Zero, his long time friend, is no longer here...

[[WMG: X's father is actualy Kenny from South Park.]]
No matter what, in every game it is impossible not to die. Yes, you would have a fluke or two, but c'mon? On every level, there has to be a time where you encounter an event and then you die. To compare with Kenny, they both die easily when they encounter an enemy, a death hazard, or just come in contact with anything that's seemingly harmless. To include, they both '''''rarely''''' remove their head gear. I think there should be a family reunion, or else Sigmas will summon out more mechanical walking birds to pick out X's pixelated eyes.

[[WMG: The capsules does'nt happen to be where the mavericks bases are, the maverick bases are build where the capsules are.]]
[[BigBad Sigma]] figured at some point that theses weirds capsule scattered all over the world had something to do with X's evolution. Wanting X to evolve further [[EvilutionaryBiologist so that more powerful reploids be created]], he purposedely placed all his major outpost where theses capsules had been located, knowing that X would eventually come there. And he had theses outpost build in a way that would make accessing the capsules harder, because he wanted X to push his limits while collecting them.

Alternatively, Sigma (who did not have as much of his EvilutionaryBiologist tendency in the original [[VideoGame/MegaManX1 X1]] than in [[VideoGame/MegaManMaverickHunterX MHX]] ) did not want X to get the capsules. That's why he had his mavericks occupying the places where one of theses capsules where found. That would explain why most of theses where hidden instead of just being there like the Chill penguin stage capsule. X being the only one able to use them, Dr.Light had few reasons to bother making them so hard to access (aside, maybe, from preventing someone from studying the capsules), while the mavericks, on the other hand would build their bases while keeping in mind to make the capsule as hard to access as possible.

As there's no ''MMZ'' WMG page, here it is.

* So if Zero picked the gun off a dead resistance member, what exactly is Omega using then? Really I think the gun is his actual Z-Buster but under the different art direction for the sake of looking cool. Axl's guns look more like modified Kimber pistols than ''MMZ''[='=]''s seemingly futuristic sub-machine gun design.

[[spoiler:General's last line in ''X4'' is "Sigma blinded me to the truth...". General has never seen Sigma on-screen; X didn't say who he was either. General has clearly been dealing with Sigma prior to the events of the game, but to the extent is unknown.]] After the Sky Lagoon falls, Colonel refuses to disarm because they were actually responsible, NOT because of fanatical loyalty. The loyalty part was just a cover. All the events of the game done by Sigma/Sigma's mavericks were actually planned. That suggests that Magma Dragoon, Cyber Peacock, and Split Mushroom were not any "more" maverick than the rest of Repliforce.

# Free-Will Maverick (or just "having evil intentions"): Just genuinely evil, like real life criminals. (Dynamo, Double, arguably Red, High Max, The Nightmare Police (''X3''), Serges, Violen, and Agile (''X2''), and arguably animal Reploids in ''X1'', ''X2'', and ''X7'')

* '' Even after ''X6'' and Inafune was involved again, he didn't really try to bring Wily up again, not even in the Zero series'' Wily is alluded to in X7 during Zero's boss talk with Snipe Anteater where the latter tells Zero he's forgotten his true mission. X8 mentions Zero's role in X5's events (where his past as the last of Wily's robots is key) repeatedly (X's talk with Layer about Zero and Zero's boss talks with Dark Mantis, Avalanche Yeti, Bamboo Pandamonium, Optic Sunflower, Belial Sigma). Omega in the Zero series alludes to (even if not the same machine) Zero's {{Ax Crazy}} self before his first fight with Sigma and it's canon that Zero sealed himself away between the X series and the last year of the Elf Wars after figuring that he was too dangerous to the world thanks to how he carried the Maverick Virus in him.

Lumine did a final attack on Axl that knocked him out - really, Axl was killed by Lumine, which explains his absence in ''Zero''. The Axl in ''Command Mission'' is either a clone, or the game was set before ''X8''.

No where is it even so much as hinted at that Sigma manipulated the Copy Chips? Besides, if Sigma used Lumine, then how did the latter have full awareness of almost everything that was happening? Especially when you take into consideration how Lumine used X and the gang to do most of his dirty work for him, it's painfully obvious that Lumine really is the [[MagnificentBastard evil genius]] that he's built up to be.

* Alternatively, Wily ended up adding free will anyway, since it would make Zero more efficient. However it also meant Zero could choose to be good...
* That's a great theory and all, but the X-based programming ain't gonna turn itself on whenever it wants. Also, at that point Zero seemed to be enjoying his killing spree and never seem conflicted about it. It seems illogical to suddenly decide to be good after getting what looks to be like a major headache. This troper believes that it had to be triggered some way, via the battle with Sigma. It could be that Dr. Light suspected through all those years of living that Wily will never stop his ambition of world domination (even after he's dead) and will create a robot to fulfill that dream. Upon making X, Dr. Light installed a program designed to specifically affect Dr. Wily's robot (Dr. Light and Wily have worked together in the past, so it's probably not too hard for Light to figure out how to create a program to counter Wily's programming). (Note: I typed 'specifically' because it ONLY affects Zero. This would make sense on the basis that all the reploid copies made by Dr. Cain are not affected by this programming because they are not perfectly modeled after X, therefore not fully compatible with the program, but still able to carry it; besides if everyone was compatible then we'd have no bad guy). This program was passed on from X to Sigma and infected Zero during their battle. It is possibly around the time where Zero severed Sigma's arm where the program could have transferred. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPlTvJZG2J8&feature=related Their battle can be seen here.]] Upon activation, the program started fighting off Wily's programming and Sigma took the opportunity to smash the area on his head where the W appeared (probably where the main programming lies), thus the X-based programming gained control of Zero; however, because Sigma smashed the area containing Wily's programming, Sigma got infected with the virus.
* Also adding more to the above, it could be that Dr. Light knew that there was a chance that Wily will create a robot far stronger than X since Wily designs his robots to be weapons of mass destruction while Light tends to create robots of convenience. Light thought that if Zero ever managed to destroy X, then X will infect Zero with the X-based programming. It's a great back-up plan and it seems plausible since in all the battles where X fought Maverick Zero, Zero ALWAYS reverts back after the battle. Though that's just 2 battles, one in ''MMX 2'' (where you fail to collect all of Zero's parts) and one in ''MMX 5'' (where you fail to destroy the space colony.)

X only finds Zero in ''X6'' after defeating the Zero Nightmare, or at the end of the game after defeating Sigma (and at this point, it can be assumed that the Nightmare system has been destroyed). When X attacks the Zero Nightmare with Zero's Z-Saber, the Saber's impact causes Zero to remember more of his non-virus memories -- causing him pain, as now three personalities are clashing. When the Zero Nightmare is defeated, THEN Zero goes and hides while he repairs himself! Possibly survival instinct (run and hide), or being wary - if X knew that Zero Nightmare was in fact Zero, he might have regret over attacking him, or paranoia that Zero is now a Nightmare Virus carrier, and would require all sorts of scans -- see X's approach in ''X5'' -- both responses Zero doesn't want to cause. After this brief repair period, both virus personalities have been subdued enough that the main Zero is in control. Zero is partly amnesiac, due to the Nightmare system corrupting most of his memories. He doesn't remember any part of being the Zero Nightmare, as he doesn't remember being revived by Isoc. He doesn't remember any of the events before ''X5'' - which is why Wily, Iris, and other plot points are never brought up again, and also forgot most of his fighting style (resulting in the change in ex skills). Being partly amnesiac takes some of the edge off his hot-headed personality (he speaks with a great deal of ellipses), although he starts to get over his missing memories in the later games.

Zero's malevolent super form and original berserker attitude are influenced by the Evil Robot, and every single act of hatred and destruction on the planet Earth since his crash-landing has been precipitated indirectly by him so that it could breed Evil Energy and restore him to life. It's possible when Wily made Zero, the Evil Robot used him as a replacement body, but was never strong enough to fully take over, putting Zero in a deranged state of bloody incoherent madness. Wily put the restrain program on him not just as a means of keeping him from betraying him, but because he knew from analysis and use of the Evil Energy that the Evil Robot was a million times more deadly than any of his other creations combined, even Bass, and if it gained control of Zero, it would be anarchy. Wily somehow tried to "shelve" the Evil Robot's personality but failed, and put a fail-safe mechanism on Zero's capsule so that in case he died, Zero would continue his mission of revenge in his stead. However, Zero grew so bellicose that he would attack everything and everyone -- all because the Evil Robot needing him to stir up carnage to rejuvenate his remains. Sigma punched a protective cover on Zero's helmet, which caused his fist to make raw contact with the Evil Robot and either transfer to him like a parasite and erode his mind, or steal his power while the robot went all but dormant in Zero. However, in ''X5'', contact with the Maverick Virus gave the Evil Robot new life until Zero was defeated. He could've been implanted in Omega from there, or Lumine, Weil, any number of villains, really. In the end, the Evil Robot will somehow procure a new body and attempt to exterminate all of planet Earth, forcing the current Mega Man to do battle with a nigh-unstoppable evil force. Finally, the Evil Robot could've been a scientist or machine created by some unknown force for evil and rebelled, a robot that experimented/was infused with Evil Energy and became power-mad, suffered exposure to it, or is out to [[KillEmAll kill everything]] [[AbsoluteXenophobe out of fear]] of a [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann universe-ending crisis a la Spiral Nemesis-style]]. Okay, mind: shut off now. This is getting crazier by the second!

[[BigBad Sigma]] figured at some point that theses weirds capsule scattered all over the world had something to do with X's evolution. Wanting X to evolve further [[EvilutionaryBiologist so that more performent reploids be created]], he purposedely placed all his major outpost where theses capsules had been located, knowing that X would eventually come there. And he had theses outpost build in a way that would make accessing the capsules harder, because he wanted X to push his limits while collecting them.

* OBJECTION -- in one cutscene, General DID meet Sigma. However, Sigma never revealed his identity to General when they met.

* '' Even after ''X6'' and Inafune was involved again, he didn't really try to bring Wily up again, not even in the Zero series'' Wily is alluded to in X7 during Zero's boss talk with Snipe Anteater where the latter tells Zero he's forgotten his true mission. X8 mentions Zero's role in X5's events (where his past as the last of Wily's robots is key) repeatedly (X's talk with Layer about Zero and Zero's boss talks with Dark Mantis, Avalanche Yeti, Bamboo Pandamonium, Optic Sunflower, Belial Sigma). Omega in the Zero series alludes to (even if not the same machine) Zero's {{Ax Crazy}} self before his first fight with Sigma and it's canon that Zero sealed himself away between the X series and the last year of the Elf Wars after figuring that he was too dangerous to the world thanks to how he carried the Sigma Virus in him.

* More of a nitpick than anything, but the bit about amnesia of everything pre-''X5'' seems unnecessary. He'd already lost a lot of his hotheaded BloodKnight tendencies due to his CharacterDevelopment from losing Iris, and no one else brings up events of those games either. Aside from that, this is brilliant.

* First off, the Zero series taking place in 22XX is not said either in the games or any canonical Zero series related documentation (like the Official Complete Works) following the development and release of Z2 (which is the game that started the Elf Wars backstory). The only official Zero source to say that was an old text released before the first Zero game, well before the backstory with Weil, Omega, and the Elf Wars was on the drawing board. Second, there's not any sayings in X7 to CM that the virus is gone forever, and Sigma dying for good in X8 doesn't lead to the virus also doing that since Sigma=/=Sigma Virus (which if you remember was around before Sigma was even built). The Zero series being more post-apocalyptic than the X games after X6 is addressed by how the Elf Wars smashed up the world. Last, X7 to X8 events are included with X1 to X6's in the R20 soucebook, leaving only CM iffy from the [[http://forum.rockmanpm.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=6trp5ndforq0rsjdfq87uhk2a7&topic=7234.msg405531#msg405531 words of character designer Ryuji Higurashi who calls it ''one of many potential futures that exists independently from the Zero series''.]]

Which would explain why he resents X so much. If reploids existed in the ''Deus Ex'' universe, they would pretty much outclass augmented humans in every way, especially since they don't need neuropozyne for their tech to keep working. And much like how Gunther Hermann worried that Paul and JC's nano-augs would render him obsolete, Vile would have a good reason to want to prove himself superior to any reploid, and X especially so.