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** Confirmed. Tai Lung's screen time is limited and he's only given an abridged character arc where Po earns his respect. Given that he isn't very bitter or angry when he's brought back from the Spirit Realm, it would seem he did do some soul-searching off-screen and became content with his fate.
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[[WMG:Ke-Pa will get canonized in a future ''KFP'' movie]]
While WordOfGod has declared all the shows to be non-canon, there remains the fact that Po in the movies has yet to face a real dragon antagonist, which may be an appropriate FinalBoss for him, given his title and motif as the "Dragon Warrior". While it's still probably a long shot, it's not outside the realm of possibility considering in other fictional works, non-serial villains have made the transition to canon (ie: Broly from ''Manga/DragonBall'' starting out as a NonSerialMovie villain but was brought into official canon later on). And given how Ke-Pa is essentially a proto-Kai (with regards to Po needing powerful Chi to defeat him and being voiced by a Film/SpiderManTrilogy actor in Creator/AlfredMolina) and has had a huge influence on other ArcVillain characters in the shows, bringing Ke-Pa back as the ultimate final villain for Po may be a logical choice for Po to finish his story.
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Notice how in each movie the [[BigBad main villain]] becomes more [[VilerNewVillain vile and evil]] - Shen whilst being the most honorable of Po's foes and having a DarkAndTroubledPast like Tai Lung, is Near Pure Evil, while Kai who is NPZ just like Shen, doesn't have a tragic backstory, sympathetic traits, or redeeming qualities unlike the peafowl. Following this trend of BigBad from new movies becoming more viler than their predecessors, The Chameleon will have no comedic moments, tragic backstory, sympathetic traits, or redeeming qualities and will commit an ''even'' worse crime than Shen and Kai ever did in their respective movies. And even if she will have some sort of sympathetic backstory (in a vein to [[WesternAnimation/MonstersInc Randall]], [[WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles Syndrome]] or [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory3 Lotso]]), it will not justify her heinous acts in the present day.
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Notice how in each movie the [[BigBad main villain]] becomes more [[VilerNewVillain vile and evil]] - Shen whilst being the most honorable of Po's foes and having a DarkAndTroubledPast like Tai Lung, is Near Pure Evil, while Kai who is NPZ just like Shen, doesn't have a tragic backstory, sympathetic traits, or redeeming qualities unlike the peafowl. Following this trend of BigBad from new movies becoming more viler than their predecessors, The Chameleon will have no comedic moments, tragic backstory, sympathetic traits, or redeeming qualities and will commit an ''even'' worse crime than Shen and Kai ever did in their respective movies. And even if she will have some sort of sympathetic backstory (in a vein to [[WesternAnimation/MonstersInc [[WesternAnimation/MonstersInc1 Randall]], [[WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles [[WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles1 Syndrome]] or [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory3 Lotso]]), it will not justify her heinous acts in the present day.
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[[WMG: The reason why Crane was crowned the King of the Crocodilians in his WrittenInAbsence excuse was because he defeated the previous one.]]
The previous monarch of the Crocodilians was a villainous ruler that appeared to have specifically targeted Crane, and the Crocodilians instead chose to crown their savior as their next king.
The previous monarch of the Crocodilians was a villainous ruler that appeared to have specifically targeted Crane, and the Crocodilians instead chose to crown their savior as their next king.
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** A FallenHero akin to [[Film/DoctorStrangeInTheMultiverseOfMadness The Scarlet Witch]] who wants to toy with the Spirit Realm/multiverse to be lost family or bring them back with forbidden arts. This could possibly escalate the conflict to a multi-dimensional crisis. They might be such a threat that villains from past films including Chameleon herself enter into an EnemyMine situation.
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** A FallenHero akin to [[Film/DoctorStrangeInTheMultiverseOfMadness The Scarlet Witch]] who wants to toy with the Spirit Realm/multiverse to be with lost family or bring them back with forbidden arts. This could possibly escalate the conflict to a multi-dimensional crisis. They might be such a threat that villains from past films including Chameleon herself enter into an EnemyMine situation. Unlike previous antagonists, they might be guided through their grief by getting the chance to have some of their wishes fulfilled in a safe manner and surrender to be rehabilitated in a correctional facility of sorts.
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** A FallenHero like akin to [[Film/DoctorStrangeInTheMultiverseOfMadness The Scarlet Witch]] who wants to toy with the Spirit Realm Realm/multiverse to be lost family or bring them back with forbidden arts. This could possibly escalate the conflict to a multi-dimensional crisis. They might be such a threat that villains from past films including Chameleon herself enter into an EnemyMine situation.
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* A AntiHero who is becoming an AntiVillain or vice-versa and is a ContrastingSequelAntagonist to Chameleon. They could be a Komodo Dragon to tie in with the whole Dragon Warrior theme and have a LoveMakesYouEvil backstory. Their motivation to open a portal to the Spirit Realm might be to bring back [[SpeciesSubversives lost love]] and family.
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** They could be a KomodoDragon dragon or another member of the monitor lizard family to tie in with the whole Dragon Warrior theme and have a LoveMakesYouEvil backstory. Their motivation to open a portal to the Spirit Realm might be to bring back [[SpeciesSubversives lost love]] and family.family.
** A FallenHero like [[Film/DoctorStrangeInTheMultiverseOfMadness The Scarlet Witch]] who wants to toy with the Spirit Realm to be lost family or bring them back with forbidden arts. This could possibly escalate the conflict to a multi-dimensional crisis. They might be such a threat that villains from past films including Chameleon herself enter into an EnemyMine situation.
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[[WMG: Possible ideas and plots for Zhen's arc]]
The sequel has ended with Po and The Furious Five training Zhen into becoming The Dragon Warrior after she stopped The Chameleon.
* Zhen becoming The Dragon Warrior as Po's successor.
* A group of criminals who plan on taking down Zhen and attempting to become dragon warriors as well.
[[WMG: Possible Villains]]
Po's arc of being The Dragion Warrior is over since the [[''WesternAnimationKungFuPanda'' beginning ]] to the [[''WesternAnimationKungFuPanda2'' second]] [[''WesternAnimationKungFuPanda3'' and middle]] till here.
Now that Zhen is becoming a Dragon Warrior with the teachings of Po and The Furious Five, there are possible other villains that Zhen could face while encountering them.
* An EvilCounterpart of Zhen who will become her arch-nemesis except an [[AffablyEvil affable]] one.
* A GreenEyedMonster who will become jealous of Zhen being a Dragon Warrior.
* A MagnificentBastard who wants to become a hero.
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[[WMG:The Chameleon wasn't telling the whole truth about her backstory about how she got rejected by kung fu masters for allegedly being too small or weak for kung fu.]]
When you think about it, her FreudianExcuse seems sympathetic at first glance but with a deeper analysis, it completely falls apart. For one, there were kung fu masters out there like Oogway or Shifu who would take on smaller animals like Mantis as kung fu students. Second, the Chameleon practically ruled a city as an extremely wealthy crime boss/sorceress and lived as royalty for a long time, given how we see her take in Zhen as a child after Zhen tried to rob her jewels so she clearly wasn't economically disadvantaged and had the funds to hire/bribe kung fu masters to teach her in all that time but chose not to for some reason. What may have been more likely is that in the past, maybe just ''one'' kung fu instructor turned her down on account of her size and species while the other kung fu masters turned her down because they saw the darkness in the Chameleon's heart like Oogway saw Tai Lung's darkness and knew a walking red flag when they saw it but the Chameleon's self-serving memory remembered the slight of being turned down for her appearance more and used that as a sob story to give legitimacy to her actions.
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[[WMG:Shifu will eventually lead a journey of his own that will reunite him with the now significantly changed Tai Lung]]
Since Tai Lung now respects Po, it would be a nice moment for Shifu to learn that his former student/adopted son has now truly let go of the past and his previous envy, plus letting them mend their relationship now that Shifu has handed the reins to Po as the Master of the Jade Palace and spiritual leader of the Valley of Peace that Oogway once held.
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[[WMG: Kung Fu Panda 4 will be the [[DarkerandEdgier darkest installment]] in the franchise]]
Putting it out there since the number [[FourIsDeath 4]] is considered a bad omen in Chinese culture.
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[[WMG:The events of ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPandaTheDragonKnight'' are set after the events of this movie.]]
Po’s global adventures will come after Zhen is trained and Po is upgraded from Dragon Warrior to Dragon Master.
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** [[spoiler:Jossed. Jossed. He's alive and well by the end.]]
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Po will try to use the Wuxi Finger Hold on Tai Lung and Shen but since they already died it won't work on them because they aren't mortals anymore but spirit warriors. The Chameleon will try to use the Wuxi Finger Hold on Po only for it to do nothing on Po because he already died in his battle with Kai when he used the Wuxi Finger Hold on himself making Po a spirit warrior.
Po will try to use the Wuxi Finger Hold on Tai Lung and Shen but since they already died it won't work on them because they aren't mortals anymore but spirit warriors. The Chameleon will try to use the Wuxi Finger Hold on Po only for it to do nothing on Po because he already died in his battle with Kai when he used the Wuxi Finger Hold on himself making Po a spirit warrior.
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[[WMG: Zhen used to work for The Chameleon]]
Well think about it, she is already a wanted criminal and has heard about The Chameleon.
Besides we haven’t heard that much details about her past or anything besides her having been born in the streets as well as becoming a criminal.
This may give us a both a hint and possibility that Zhen used to have worn for The Chameleon before departing and betraying her.
Well think about it, she is already a wanted criminal and has heard about The Chameleon.
Besides we haven’t heard that much details about her past or anything besides her having been born in the streets as well as becoming a criminal.
This may give us a both a hint and possibility that Zhen used to have worn for The Chameleon before departing and betraying her.
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[[WMG: Mr. Ping and Li Shan will rally out Granny Board and her gang to help out Po.]]
New clips show both of them in Trippy Tavern, where she and her gang lives. Perhaps after finding information about their son, they will convince her and her gang to help them fight with Chameleon, assuming that even crooks from Den of Thieves won't be able to handle her army. Since Granny Boar and her [[Creator/LoriTanChinn voice actress]] are heavily featured in the marketing of the movie, there's possibility that she and her gang have larger roles in the movie than just two scenes that take place in their tavern.
New clips show both of them in Trippy Tavern, where she and her gang lives. Perhaps after finding information about their son, they will convince her and her gang to help them fight with Chameleon, assuming that even crooks from Den of Thieves won't be able to handle her army. Since Granny Boar and her [[Creator/LoriTanChinn voice actress]] are heavily featured in the marketing of the movie, there's possibility that she and her gang have larger roles in the movie than just two scenes that take place in their tavern.
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[[WMG: Mr. Ping and Li Shan will rally out Granny Board Boar and her gang to help out Po.]]
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New clips show both of them in Trippy Tavern, where she and her gang lives. Perhaps after finding information about their son, they will convince her and her gang to help them fight with Chameleon, assuming that even crooks from Den of Thieves won't be able to handle her army. Since Granny Boar and her [[Creator/LoriTanChinn voice actress]] are heavily featured in the marketing of the movie, there's possibility that she and her gang have larger roles in the movie than just two scenes that take place in their tavern.
New clips show both of them in Trippy Tavern, where she and her gang lives. Perhaps after finding information about their son, they will convince her and her gang to help them fight with Chameleon, assuming that even crooks from Den of Thieves won't be able to handle her army. Since Granny Boar and her [[Creator/LoriTanChinn voice actress]] are heavily featured in the marketing of the movie, there's possibility that she and her gang have larger roles in the movie than just two scenes that take place in their tavern.
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