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* Alternatively, they are just spawns of [[BlazBlue Yuuki Terumi]], which he made to ruin an unfortunate child's life ForTheLulz.
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*** And then we have the anime-original content written by Hata himself (''Can't Take My Eyes Off You'' and the last two eps of ''Cuties''), which actually dip into a bit of MindScrew... and the former has Ruka basically playing the GreekChorus-esque same part as the possibly-alien shadow-play girls from ''Utena'' while holding a concert conveniently close to Area 51. Whether Hata's pulling this off as well as Ikuhara is up for debate, but he certainly seems to be ''trying''.
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And he's not dead; he is pulling the strings from thr background.

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And he's not dead; he is pulling the strings from thr the background.
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*** Consider Isumi's description of a [[http://www.onemanga.com/Hayate_the_Combat_Butler/129/16/ "frog"]] that she once had to fight. "8 meters in length, weights 5 tons. It breaths fire; has acidic saliva that melts bones on contact; it destroyed 70% of Colorado and if her team were even 5 minutes late in defeating it, Earth would have been plummeted into the Sun." ...that's not a demon, that's a freaking [[NasuVerse Ultimate One!]] [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu and they beat it.]]

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*** Consider Isumi's description of a [[http://www.onemanga.com/Hayate_the_Combat_Butler/129/16/ mangahere.com/manga/hayate_the_combat_butler/c129/16.html "frog"]] that she once had to fight. "8 meters in length, weights 5 tons. It breaths fire; has acidic saliva that melts bones on contact; it destroyed 70% of Colorado and if her team were even 5 minutes late in defeating it, Earth would have been plummeted into the Sun." ...that's not a demon, that's a freaking [[NasuVerse Ultimate One!]] [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu and they beat it.]]
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*Nope: he becomes Deadpool. They both medium aware and Deadpool makes a better fit then Batman.
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[[WMG: Hayate's parents will return at one point, and someone will have to physically restrain [[spoiler: Athena]] from trying to kill them.]]
Honestly, while all of the other people who know of Hayate's backstory will view them as monsters, [[spoiler: Athena]] has possibly held a grudge against them for 10 years due to them [[spoiler: tricking Hayate into giving them Athena's ring then selling it]] is a big reason they split in the first place. This troper expects someone to restrain [[spoiler: Athena]] from trying to kill Hayate's parents while Hayate decides to interrogate his father of as to where he sold [[spoiler: Athena's ring]] and go on a trip to try and get it back.
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[[WMG:Ruka is [[Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena an alien from Planet Kashira]] in ''Can't Take my Eyes Off You''.]]
It's the only explanation for the bizarre, only tangentally-related-to-what's-actually-happening skits. And her latest concert is located conveniently close to Area 51...

Actually, given the other parallels between this show and Utena noted further up the page, and the [[Anime/MawaruPenguindrum apple motif]] CTMEOY has going, I wouldn't be surprised if Hata's an Ikuhara fan.
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Well, they greatly resemble one another. So probably Hayate's parents gave (sold?) her to a childless couple, separating her from Hayate at birth. Her bad luck (which is shared by her brother) rubs on this couple soon enough, and they ran into a massive debt, just like Hayate. Ikusa knows this, but chose not to tell his brother, and since he's currently missing, there is no one to tell Hayate about it.

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Well, they greatly resemble one another. So probably Hayate's parents gave (sold?) her to a childless couple, separating her from Hayate at birth. Her bad luck (which is shared by her brother) rubs on this couple soon enough, and they ran into a massive debt, just like Hayate. Ikusa knows this, but chose not to tell his brother, and since he's currently missing, there is no one to tell Hayate about it. And then they meet again, and now she's interested in him, and he possibly feel the same way, making it a Luke-Leia-esque relationship.
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Well, they greatly resemble one another. So probably Hayate's parents gave (sold?) her to a childless couple, separating her from Hayate at birth. Her bad luck (which is shared by her brother) rubs on this couple soon enough, and they ran into a massive debt.

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Well, they greatly resemble one another. So probably Hayate's parents gave (sold?) her to a childless couple, separating her from Hayate at birth. Her bad luck (which is shared by her brother) rubs on this couple soon enough, and they ran into a massive debt.debt, just like Hayate. Ikusa knows this, but chose not to tell his brother, and since he's currently missing, there is no one to tell Hayate about it.
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[[WMG: Hayate and Ruka are twin siblings.]]
Well, they greatly resemble one another. So probably Hayate's parents gave (sold?) her to a childless couple, separating her from Hayate at birth. Her bad luck (which is shared by her brother) rubs on this couple soon enough, and they ran into a massive debt.
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* Well Hayate has canonically time traveled once already, though the source isn't entirely clear. It's been implied that it was [[spoiler: Nagi's mom using the Power of the Gods that she apparently acquired]].


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* Not necessarily; Nagi's mom had a crush on him but his feelings were unclear. He definitely cared about her a great deal, but with the age difference we aren't sure if he returned her feelings in a romantic sense. Also she seemed pretty certain that Klaus was going to bring women over while she was away...


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[[WMG: Mikado is behind the massive debts dropped onto Hayate, Hinagiku, AND Ruka.]]
Yukiji said that their parents got 80 million yen in debt because of loans from a millionaire businessman as well as loan sharks. That millionaire could easily be Mikado. Since we don't know who the heck lent Mr. and Mrs. Ayasaki 150 million yen given what kind of people they are it could easily be Mikado also. Ruka's parents also borrowed 150 million from a mysterious source. If Nagi thought that Hayate's debt was basically allowance money then Mikado could have easily dropped that amount of money without a care.
* But why? His schemes for the Royal Garden and this 'Power of the Gods' of course. As best we can tell, massive depression and/or negative feelings may be needed to get there or make the 'gate' work. Hayate made it there as a kid so whatever he's doing at least must seem to him like it works, and [[spoiler: it happened after Mikado disguised himself as Santa to give Hayate a KIng's Jewel]]. Why wouldn't he do it again? The three of them have similar pasts because each of them are experiments by Mikado to try and get one of them to go back to the Royal Garden for him. Hayate is probably out by now, but Hinagiku has already begun getting involved with RG matters and Ruka was recently suggested to be heading that way as well.
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[[WMG: Hayate's [[CompleteMonster parents]] will eventually show up in an antagonistic role]]

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* God, I hope you're right. To say they deserve it is the grossest of understatements.

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* * God, I hope you're right. To say they deserve it is the grossest of understatements.



[[WMG: HayateTheCombatButler and LightNovel/{{Toradora}} are alternate versions of each other.]]

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The tropes are not merely similar, they're used in almost the same ways! Toradora is a more realistic and emotional version, whereas everything is multiplied and spun out of proportion in Hayate. Ryuuji and Hayate are very similar, both love cooking and cleaning, and would act more like wives than husbands. Both are chastised for their faces, which do not match their personalities. (Hayate is a hard worker, but has a poor face. Ryuuji always looks like he's going to kill you) Both are extremely gentle and go through incredible lengths for their supposedly non-romantic partner. Both men have crushes for the closest person to their partners (Maria and Minori), who also have returning crushes, and step aside for the other part of the LoveTriangle. Nagi and Taiga are both {{Ojou}}s, [[{{Lolicon}} underdeveloped]], {{Tsundere}}s and voiced by RieKugimiya. Neither is any good at any chores, both are lazy but smart, neither hangs around with relatives, both love video games and both proclaim their crush as their own personal servant. As a side note, Ryuuji and Taiga begin to run away together at the end, and that's exactly what Nagi thinks Hayate wanted her to do.

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The tropes are not merely similar, they're used in almost the same ways! Toradora is a more realistic and emotional version, whereas everything is multiplied and spun out of proportion in Hayate. Ryuuji and Hayate are very similar, both love cooking and cleaning, and would act more like wives than husbands. Both are chastised for their faces, which do not match their personalities. (Hayate is a hard worker, but has a poor face. Ryuuji always looks like he's going to kill you) Both are extremely gentle and go through incredible lengths for their supposedly non-romantic partner. Both men have crushes for the closest person to their partners (Maria and Minori), who also have returning crushes, and step aside for the other part of the LoveTriangle. Nagi and Taiga are both {{Ojou}}s, [[{{Lolicon}} underdeveloped]], underdeveloped, {{Tsundere}}s and voiced by RieKugimiya. Neither is any good at any chores, both are lazy but smart, neither hangs around with relatives, both love video games and both proclaim their crush as their own personal servant. As a side note, Ryuuji and Taiga begin to run away together at the end, and that's exactly what Nagi thinks Hayate wanted her to do.
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[[WMG: Mikado isn't done with his XanatosGambit to give Nagi the inheritance.]]
You heard me. He's still planning on giving it to her. He predicted all of these events, and is merely trying to get Nagi to work for her fortune, at which point he will give her the inheritance.

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[[WMG: Mikado isn't done with his XanatosGambit to will ultimately give Nagi the inheritance.]]
You heard me. He's still planning on giving it to her. [[ThePlan He predicted all of these events, and is merely trying to get Nagi to work for her fortune, fortune]], at which point he will give her the inheritance.

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** Not to mention that the Student Council (which seems [[AbsurdlyPowerfulStudentCouncil Absurdly Powerful]] is situated at the top of the clock tower which [[spoiler: is built over the sight of the Royal Garden, much like Akio's apparently magical tower chambers]], and our StudentCouncilPresident Hinagiku is basically a duelist sans Rose Crest and has been chosen by two magical swords so far, the latter of which [[spoiler: is the Sword of Justice from the Royal Garden]]. Seems safe to say that at least part of the 'serious' plot is inspired by Utena and that Hayate, Athena, Hinagiku, and probably Ikusa will all have roles to play when things shift back to it.

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** Not to mention that the Student Council (which seems [[AbsurdlyPowerfulStudentCouncil Absurdly Powerful]] Powerful]]) is situated at the top of the clock tower which [[spoiler: is built over the sight of the Royal Garden, much like Akio's apparently magical tower chambers]], and our StudentCouncilPresident Hinagiku is basically a duelist sans Rose Crest and has been chosen by two magical swords so far, the latter of which [[spoiler: is the Sword of Justice from the Royal Garden]]. Seems safe to say that at least part of the 'serious' plot is inspired by Utena and that Hayate, Athena, Hinagiku, and probably Ikusa will all have roles to play when things shift back to it.


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** Assuming that's the real age difference. In one of the flashbacks we see Yukiji in what appears to be high school with a baby Hina (it was a cool image too with Yukiji rocking out on the roof with her guitar and Hina in a baby-holder on her shoulder - baby!Hina also seemed to like the music). It's possible that Yukiji was a case of teenage pregnancy which might explain why her parents abandoned her. So it's possible but unlikely as Yukiji does treat her like a sister and by that age would likely have just raised Hina rather than BOTH of them getting adopted.
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*** Turns out you would actually starve to death in a matter of hours if you lost both your liver and both your kidneys because you'd lose the ability to perform glycolysis, gluconeogenesis and ketogenesis. Without at least one of them, your blood sugar would plummet to the point that you'd drop into a coma and die as soon as you stopped digesting carbohydrates.

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*** Turns out you would actually starve to death in a matter of hours if you lost both your liver and both your kidneys because you'd lose the ability to perform glycolysis, glycogenolysis, gluconeogenesis and ketogenesis. ketogenesis. Without at least one of them, your blood sugar would plummet to the point that you'd drop into a coma and die as soon as you stopped digesting carbohydrates.

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*** Turns out you would actually starve to death in a matter of hours if you lost both your liver and both your kidneys because you'd lose the ability to perform glycolysis, gluconeogenesis and ketogenesis. Without at least one of them, your blood sugar would plummet to the point that you'd drop into a coma and die as soon as you stopped digesting carbohydrates.


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[[WMG: At the end of the series, Nagi or Athena will pull an IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy and pay off all of Hayate's debts.]]
Because even if Hayate chooses somebody else, they don't want him to be alone because he can't support a wife.
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** The truly KarmicDeath would be for the Yakuza to demand THEIR organs as payment, seeing as they are now in default. If they wanted to be really cruel, they'd only take them one at a time- first a lung, then a kidney, then half a liver, bone marrow, other nonessential tissues and organs, and then finally they'd take the other kidney and the liver, leaving the heart and the remaining lung. You can live for days without a liver in excruciating pain before succumbing to ammonia poisoning, and not having kidneys will make this process only slightly faster.

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** The truly KarmicDeath would be for the Yakuza to demand THEIR organs as payment, seeing as they are now in default. If they wanted to be really cruel, they'd only take them one at a time- first a lung, then a kidney, then half a liver, bone marrow, other nonessential tissues and organs, and then finally they'd take the other kidney and the liver, leaving the heart and the remaining lung. lung. You can live for days without a liver in excruciating pain before succumbing to ammonia poisoning, and not having kidneys will make this process only slightly faster.
faster. The heart and lung would be ruined by the poison, but that's the price the Yakuza would pay for the pleasure of watching them suffer.
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** The truly KarmicDeath would be for the Yakuza to demand THEIR organs as payment, seeing as they are now in default. If they wanted to be really cruel, they'd only take them one at a time- first a lung, then a kidney, then half a liver, bone marrow, other nonessential tissues and organs, and then finally they'd take the other kidney and the liver, leaving the heart and the remaining lung. You can live for days without a liver in excruciating pain before succumbing to ammonia poisoning, and not having kidneys will make this process only slightly faster.
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[[WMG: Kotetsu will end up paired with Ruka.]]
Think about it. It seems FAR too convenient that Ruka (who has a similar background to Hayate, possibly) looks exactly like him as well. And since Kotetsu loves Hayate when he crossdresses in especial, and seems like rather a nice guy under all his lechyness, well...
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* This troper did have a theory to go with a nice KarmicDeath too. They did enter another debt and that debt was to the same "[[{{Yakuza}} Very Nice People]]" that they sold Hayate into. These "Very Nice People" saw what they did to Hayate and personally, [[EvenEvilHasStandards they're really disgusted]]. So they're going to show the parents what true hell is like, especially ditching their son like that... Very Nicely.
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[[WMG: Nagi's father is Kenjor Hata.]]

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[[WMG: Nagi's father is Kenjor Kenjiro Hata.]]
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[[WMG: Nagi's father is Kenjor Hata.]]
And he's not dead; he is pulling the strings from thr background.
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** Not to mention that the Student Council (which seems [[AbsurdlyPowerfulStudentCouncil Absurdly Powerful]] is situated at the top of the clock tower which [[spoiler: is built over the sight of the Royal Garden, much like Akio's apparently magical tower chambers]], and our StudentCouncilPresident Hinagiku is basically a duelist sans Rose Crest and has been chosen by two magical swords so far, the latter of which [[is the Sword of Justice from the Royal Garden]]. Seems safe to say that at least part of the 'serious' plot is inspired by Utena and that Hayate, Athena, Hinagiku, and probably Ikusa will all have roles to play when things shift back to it.

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** Not to mention that the Student Council (which seems [[AbsurdlyPowerfulStudentCouncil Absurdly Powerful]] is situated at the top of the clock tower which [[spoiler: is built over the sight of the Royal Garden, much like Akio's apparently magical tower chambers]], and our StudentCouncilPresident Hinagiku is basically a duelist sans Rose Crest and has been chosen by two magical swords so far, the latter of which [[is [[spoiler: is the Sword of Justice from the Royal Garden]]. Seems safe to say that at least part of the 'serious' plot is inspired by Utena and that Hayate, Athena, Hinagiku, and probably Ikusa will all have roles to play when things shift back to it.
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** Not to mention that the Student Council (which seems [[AbsurdlyPowerfulStudentCouncil Absurdly Powerful]] is situated at the top of the clock tower which [[spoiler: is built over the sight of the Royal Garden, much like Akio's apparently magical tower chambers]], and our StudentCouncilPresident Hinagiku is basically a duelist sans Rose Crest and has been chosen by two magical swords so far, the latter of which [[is the Sword of Justice from the Royal Garden]]. Seems safe to say that at least part of the 'serious' plot is inspired by Utena and that Hayate, Athena, Hinagiku, and probably Ikusa will all have roles to play when things shift back to it.
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[[WMG: Yukiji is an alcoholic because of her parents.]]
The things she had to do to pay back her parents' debt have left her with scars in her psyche that, coupled with her abandonment issues, have driven her to drink.
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* [[OverTookTheManga I think]] [[{{Filler}} we all know]] [[{{Padding}} what really happened]].
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[[WMG: Mikado isn't done with his XanatosGambit to give Nagi the inheritance.]]
You heard me. He's still planning on giving it to her. He predicted all of these events, and is merely trying to get Nagi to work for her fortune, at which point he will give her the inheritance.

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