Follow TV Tropes

Following

History WMG / HadesII

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

[[WMG:The game takes place centuries after the first game.]]
As the characters are immortal, a few centuries wouldn’t be that much time for them.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


[[WMG: "Dora" is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrodora Metrodora"]]]]

to:

[[WMG: "Dora" is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrodora Metrodora"]]]]Metrodora]]]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


[[WMG: "Dora" is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrodora Metrodora"]]

to:

[[WMG: "Dora" is [https://en.[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrodora Metrodora"]]Metrodora"]]]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

[[WMG: "Dora" is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrodora Metrodora"]]
Because Pandora would be too obvious.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:


[[WMG: Characters who might return from the previous game]]
* Achilles and Patroclus: They helped Zagreus, now they'll help Melinoe.
* Dusa: Perhaps as a brief or extended cameo in the Underworld, lamenting how quiet things have gotten after the royal family was captured.
* Nyx: Can't imagine that Chronos can do much to her. Or perhaps he can and she was captured alongside Hades?
* Chaos: Chronos ''definitely'' can't touch them. They'll likely serve the same role they did originally.
* Megaera (and her sisters): Whether Chronos would even want to go after the Furies (since he probably wouldn't see them as a threat) is unclear, but if they're present, they'd probably act as both allies and obstacles to Melinoe, just as they did for her brother.
* Thanatos: Because time cannot stop death.

[[WMG: Just as Zagreus was nicknamed "Zag", Melinoe will be nicknamed "Mel"]]
Just 'cause it'd be cute.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:


[[WMG: Rhea is the story's BigGood]]
In direct opposition to her ex-husband, Rhea will turn out to be the one who tasked Hecate with training Melinoe so that she can rescue the Gods from his clutches. Perhaps late in the game, Hecate will suffer MentorOccupationalHazard and be captured by Chronos, prompting Rhea to step in to give Melinoe protection and guidance herself.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:


[[WMG:Dora used to be known as Pandora.]]
Much like how Dusa is heavily implied to be the severed head of {{Medusa}}, Dora will at the very least be implied to be Pandora, the first mortal woman.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* Castor and Pollux/Polydeuces, who could be a DualBoss for Melinoë.

Changed: 39

Removed: 327

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* Atalante, as a stand-in for Thanatos.




[[WMG: Atalante will be Melinoe's rival.]]
In the first game, Zagreus would occasionally run into Thanatos in his escape attempts, who serves as his rival. As this is about Melinoe running into the Underworld to save her father, perhaps the rival in question would be Atalante and she challenges Melinoe to "hunting challenges".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


In the first game, Zagreus would occasionally run into Thanatos in his escape attempts, who serves as his rival. As this is about Melinoe running into the Underworld to save her father, perhaps the rival in question would be Atalante.

to:

In the first game, Zagreus would occasionally run into Thanatos in his escape attempts, who serves as his rival. As this is about Melinoe running into the Underworld to save her father, perhaps the rival in question would be Atalante.Atalante and she challenges Melinoe to "hunting challenges".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:


[[WMG: Atalante will be Melinoe's rival.]]
In the first game, Zagreus would occasionally run into Thanatos in his escape attempts, who serves as his rival. As this is about Melinoe running into the Underworld to save her father, perhaps the rival in question would be Atalante.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:


[[WMG: Melinoe's cast will be a vengeful spirit.]]
What little is known of Melinoe in mythology is that she is the Cthonic goddess of ghosts and funerary rites (and nightmares, in some versions). So instead of launching crystalised blood like Zagreus, she'll send ghosts to haunt her enemies.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* Pan, god of the wilderness. He could give Melinoe's attacks a poison debuff like Dionysus.

Added: 4

Changed: 123

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* Orpheus could potentially reappear since he's also said to be a magician in mythology, even creating temples of Hecate.



The first game had you interacting with several bosses in the HubLevel, including Hades, who turned out to be the FinalBoss. We also see them fighting in the trailer. This could go one of two ways, either she's the boss of the first area to test if Melinoe is ready for what lies ahead. Or, Hecate is a TreacherousQuestgiver and has ulterior motives for sending Melinoe against Chronos, and is the real final opponent. However, after beating the main storyline she'll undergo a HeelFaceTurn, and all future fights are friendly sparring matches. (They have to justify the postgame somehow)

to:

The first game had you interacting with several bosses in the HubLevel, including Hades, who turned out to be the FinalBoss. We also see them fighting in the trailer. This could go one of two ways, either she's the boss of the first area to test if Melinoe is ready for what lies ahead. Or, Hecate is a TreacherousQuestgiver TreacherousQuestGiver and has ulterior motives for sending Melinoe against Chronos, and is the real final opponent. However, after beating the main storyline she'll undergo a HeelFaceTurn, and all future fights are friendly sparring matches. (They have to justify the postgame somehow)



* Given the catastrophic scale of Chronos' plans if you fail and his control over time, maybe Melinoe can use the latter against him to trap them both in a loop until she wins.

to:

* Given the catastrophic scale of Chronos' plans if you fail and his control over time, maybe Melinoe can use the latter against him to trap them both in a loop until she wins.wins.
----
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* Morpheus: God of Sleep and Dreams, his attacks could likely have a stunning or disorienting effect on enemies, or a debuff that makes them move and attack slower.




to:

* Heracles should be a no-brainer, given that he's the most famous Greek Hero; bonus points if his appearance also allows for the presence of Prometheus, as it was Heracles who freed him during his labors.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* Alternatively, it was Hyperion, who Hades notes in the first game to be even worse than his own father.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Given the catastrophic scale of Chronos' plans if you fail and his control over time, maybe Melinoe cause use the latter against him to trap them both in a loop until she wins.

to:

* Given the catastrophic scale of Chronos' plans if you fail and his control over time, maybe Melinoe cause can use the latter against him to trap them both in a loop until she wins.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


The first game had you interacting with several bosses in the HubLevel, including Hades, who turned out to be the FinalBoss. We also see them fighting in the trailer. This could go one of two ways, either she's the boss of the first area to test if Melinoe is ready for what lies ahead. Or, Hecate is a TreacherousQuestgiver and has ulterior motives for sending Melinoe against Chronos, and is the real final opponent. However, after beating the main storyline she'll undergo a HeelFaceTurn, and all future fights are friendly sparring matches. (They have to justify the postgame somehow)

to:

The first game had you interacting with several bosses in the HubLevel, including Hades, who turned out to be the FinalBoss. We also see them fighting in the trailer. This could go one of two ways, either she's the boss of the first area to test if Melinoe is ready for what lies ahead. Or, Hecate is a TreacherousQuestgiver and has ulterior motives for sending Melinoe against Chronos, and is the real final opponent. However, after beating the main storyline she'll undergo a HeelFaceTurn, and all future fights are friendly sparring matches. (They have to justify the postgame somehow)somehow)

[[WMG:The game takes place in a GroundhogDayLoop until you get it right.]]
* Given the catastrophic scale of Chronos' plans if you fail and his control over time, maybe Melinoe cause use the latter against him to trap them both in a loop until she wins.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


[[WMG: Rhea, not Chronos, organized the events of the game.]]

to:

[[WMG: Rhea, not Chronos, organized the events of the game.]]]]

[[WMG: Hecate will be either the first area boss or the FinalBoss.]]
The first game had you interacting with several bosses in the HubLevel, including Hades, who turned out to be the FinalBoss. We also see them fighting in the trailer. This could go one of two ways, either she's the boss of the first area to test if Melinoe is ready for what lies ahead. Or, Hecate is a TreacherousQuestgiver and has ulterior motives for sending Melinoe against Chronos, and is the real final opponent. However, after beating the main storyline she'll undergo a HeelFaceTurn, and all future fights are friendly sparring matches. (They have to justify the postgame somehow)
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Nothing worse than going to save your dad only to be forced to kill him.

to:

Nothing worse than going to save your dad only to be forced to kill him.him.

[[WMG: Rhea, not Chronos, organized the events of the game.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Prometheus

to:

* PrometheusPrometheus

[[WMG: Chronos will force Hades to fight Melinoe.]]
Nothing worse than going to save your dad only to be forced to kill him.

Added: 231

Changed: 119

Removed: 150

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Hephaestus, god of the forge, either as someone focused around straightforward buffs to your base stats or a mechanic similar to Daedalus's hammers.



* Hephaestus, god of the forge, either as someone focused around straightforward buffs to your base stats or a mechanic similar to Daedalus's hammers.




to:

** Both of the above are especially likely, given that unlike the situation with Zagreus, their father is now involved.



* Jason and Medea

to:

* Jason and MedeaMedea
* Perseus, to contrast Medusa's implied prominence in the first game.
* Prometheus
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added: 17

Changed: 976

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Just as with Achilles and Patroclus, Orpheus and Eurydice, or Theseus and Asterios, ''Hades II'' is likely to include many other well-known or not-so-known greek heroes as supporting cast members. There are no heroes currently confirmed, but it's fun to theorize.
* Jason and Medea would be a perfect pair for this title, following the trend of each hero having another hero associated with them appearing in the story. With this title focusing on the origins of witchcraft and the main character being a witch herself, Medea would be a shoo-in for an appearance, and Jason would be the perfect character to include as a foil to her.

to:

Just as with Achilles and Patroclus, Orpheus and Eurydice, or Theseus and Asterios, Like in ''Hades'', ''Hades II'' is likely to include many other well-known or not-so-known greek heroes as supporting cast members. There While there are no heroes characters currently confirmed, but it's fun to theorize.
* Jason and Medea would
we can assume that they'll be a perfect pair for this title, following the trend of each hero having another hero associated with them the story's overall theme; while in ''Hades'', the heroes were those like Theseus, Sisyphus, and Orpheus, who all tried and failed to overcome the limitations of death, in ''Hades II'', the focus will most likely be on witchcraft and sacrificing oneself for others.
* Odysseus and Circe: Circe is, by far, ''the'' quintessential witch in Greek mythology, and is an absolute shoo-in for a story focused around witches, even without being the very daughter of Hecate. Odysseus is unquestionably linked to her, and with his fellow heroes of the Trojan War Achilles and Patroclus
appearing in the story. With this title focusing on the origins of witchcraft and the main character previous game [[spoiler: as well as him potentially being a witch herself, Medea would be a shoo-in for an appearance, and Skelly]], it's not out of the question that he'd appear here.
*
Jason would be the perfect character to include as a foil to her.and Medea

Added: 1218

Changed: 5

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


So far, we've only see two new gods helping out Melinoe: Apollo and Nemesis. This makes one wonder what other gods will grant her their Boons.

to:

So far, we've only see seen two new gods helping out Melinoe: Apollo and Nemesis. This makes one wonder what other gods will grant her their Boons.



* Iris, goddess of rainbows and messenger. She could function similarly to Hermes.

to:

* Iris, goddess of rainbows and messenger. She could function similarly to Hermes.Hermes.
* Hera, goddess of marriage. She could have a similar "lovesick" ability to Aphrodite, or perhaps have a mechanic where you get massive buffs after taking damage as a reference to her constant attempts at seeking revenge after Zeus's many infidelities.
* Hephaestus, god of the forge, either as someone focused around straightforward buffs to your base stats or a mechanic similar to Daedalus's hammers.
* Hestia, goddess of the hearth and the home. She could be an inversion to Demeter's boons, instead granting Melinoe fire-based abilities.

[[WMG: Greek Heroes appearing in this title.]]
Just as with Achilles and Patroclus, Orpheus and Eurydice, or Theseus and Asterios, ''Hades II'' is likely to include many other well-known or not-so-known greek heroes as supporting cast members. There are no heroes currently confirmed, but it's fun to theorize.
* Jason and Medea would be a perfect pair for this title, following the trend of each hero having another hero associated with them appearing in the story. With this title focusing on the origins of witchcraft and the main character being a witch herself, Medea would be a shoo-in for an appearance, and Jason would be the perfect character to include as a foil to her.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Nike: The goddess of victory. Perhaps this could have snowballing effects where Melinoe gets stronger the more bosses she's defeated in a single run.

to:

* Nike: The goddess of victory. Perhaps this could have snowballing effects where Melinoe gets stronger the more bosses she's defeated in a single run.run.
* Iris, goddess of rainbows and messenger. She could function similarly to Hermes.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Nike: The goddess of victory. Perhaps this could havesnowballing effects where Melinoe gets stronger the more bosses she's defeated in a single run.

to:

* Nike: The goddess of victory. Perhaps this could havesnowballing have snowballing effects where Melinoe gets stronger the more bosses she's defeated in a single run.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Perhaps to hide her from Chronos/train her to defeat him?

to:

Perhaps to hide her from Chronos/train her to defeat him?him?

[[WMG:Other Gods that will support Melinoe]]
So far, we've only see two new gods helping out Melinoe: Apollo and Nemesis. This makes one wonder what other gods will grant her their Boons.
* Asclepius: The god of medicine. Could grant status effect immunity as well as bolstered healing abilities.
* Nike: The goddess of victory. Perhaps this could havesnowballing effects where Melinoe gets stronger the more bosses she's defeated in a single run.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


The new protagonist is Zag's sister. There's a lot we don't know so far about age differences or whether they even know the other exists, which creates room for a lot of fun sibling dynamics. They could be rivals, allies, maybe Zag is a BonusBoss, etc.

to:

The new protagonist is Zag's sister. There's a lot we don't know so far about age differences or whether they even know the other exists, which creates room for a lot of fun sibling dynamics. They could be rivals, allies, maybe Zag is a BonusBoss, etc.etc.

[[WMG:Zagreus and Persephone were captured too.]]
That's one reason why they can't help Melinoe...

[[WMG:Hecate raised Melinoe after her birth for some reason.]]
Perhaps to hide her from Chronos/train her to defeat him?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

[[WMG:We ''will'' see Zagreus again]]
The new protagonist is Zag's sister. There's a lot we don't know so far about age differences or whether they even know the other exists, which creates room for a lot of fun sibling dynamics. They could be rivals, allies, maybe Zag is a BonusBoss, etc.

Top