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** I think the point being made by the OP is that she should have learned her lesson after the Meryn Trant incident; using a face without authorization lead to her going blind - though the exact cause and effect on that is still somewhat unclear.
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* Except this wouldn't have been the first time she stole a face and went rogue. Remember Meryn Trant?
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* She's put herself in a rather untenable situation, to where she's got everyone except the Crownlands itself having effectively seceded from the Seven Kingdoms, and a ''massive'' Essos[=/=]Southern Westeros coalition led by a Targaryen and three dragons coming for King's Landing [[note]]Most of the Dothraki khalasar ''and'' their horses, ships from the Iron Islands, Essos, and Dorne, a good portion of the Unsullied, and in all likelihood ground forces from Dorne and the Reach, which were the two regions more or less untouched by the War of Five Kings[[/note]]. Her strongest allies are Qyburn, a MadScientist that's trying to be Hand, Grand Maester, and Master of Whispers at once and is probably out of his depth; Jaime, who isn't the fighter he once was and whom Cersei (to her detriment) probably wouldn't be willing to risk; and the Mountain, who is strong as hell but certainly not invincible as Oberyn Martell's already proven.
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* She's put herself in a rather untenable situation, to where she's got everyone except the Crownlands itself having effectively seceded from the Seven Kingdoms, and a ''massive'' Essos[=/=]Southern Westeros coalition led by a Targaryen and three dragons coming for King's Landing [[note]]Most of the Dothraki khalasar ''and'' their horses, ships from the Iron Islands, Essos, and Dorne, a good portion of the Unsullied, and in all likelihood ground forces from Dorne and the Reach, which were the two regions more or less untouched by the War of Five Kings[[/note]]. Her strongest allies are Qyburn, a MadScientist that's trying to be Hand, Grand Maester, and Master of Whispers at once and is probably out of his depth; Jaime, who isn't the fighter he once was and whom Cersei (to her detriment) probably wouldn't be willing to risk; and the Mountain, who is strong as hell but certainly not invincible as Oberyn Martell's already proven.
proven - not to mention he can't be Queensguard and take the field of battle at the same time, robbing Cersei of one of her strongest fighters should war take place outside of King's Landing.
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[[WMG: The Mountain will be killed by the Sand Snakes]]
* Barring Cleganebowl, this is the only appropriate death for him. Of course, the Sand Snakes, like their father, won't survive the encounter because they're both too important and too non-essential to the plot to survive.
[[WMG: Jaime will be given Widow's Wail in Season 7.]]
* [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse What the hell happened to that sword after Joffrey died, anyway?]] And he can't ''not'' have this sword on him for the inevitable confrontation with Brienne[=/=]Oathkeeper.
[[WMG: Bronn will switch sides to the Targaryen Coalition.]]
* This isn't going to be a particularly noble move on his part even though he'll be fighting for one of the less evil sides. Simply put, Bronn's got no interest in dying loyally for the losing side if someone else can help him survive. The Crown's already in debt, probably worse off than before with the Reach defecting, and the Lannister coffers are completely empty. Whatever Daenerys's side comes along and offers would have to be more appealing than dying in the Crownlands, especially because the Lannisters keep reneging on their promises to him. It doesn't hurt in the slightest that the Targaryen Coalition contains Tyrion, who ''was'' his friend after a fashion - or [[spoiler: Tyene Sand and her "bad poosey".]]
* Barring Cleganebowl, this is the only appropriate death for him. Of course, the Sand Snakes, like their father, won't survive the encounter because they're both too important and too non-essential to the plot to survive.
[[WMG: Jaime will be given Widow's Wail in Season 7.]]
* [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse What the hell happened to that sword after Joffrey died, anyway?]] And he can't ''not'' have this sword on him for the inevitable confrontation with Brienne[=/=]Oathkeeper.
[[WMG: Bronn will switch sides to the Targaryen Coalition.]]
* This isn't going to be a particularly noble move on his part even though he'll be fighting for one of the less evil sides. Simply put, Bronn's got no interest in dying loyally for the losing side if someone else can help him survive. The Crown's already in debt, probably worse off than before with the Reach defecting, and the Lannister coffers are completely empty. Whatever Daenerys's side comes along and offers would have to be more appealing than dying in the Crownlands, especially because the Lannisters keep reneging on their promises to him. It doesn't hurt in the slightest that the Targaryen Coalition contains Tyrion, who ''was'' his friend after a fashion - or [[spoiler: Tyene Sand and her "bad poosey".]]
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[[WMG: Jon is not Rhaegar's son, but Aerys's.]]
* We know that the Mad King was a little rapey.
* Why confirm that Lyanna was Jon's mother but not cite Rhaegar?
* If Tyrion WMG is real... he, Daenerys and Jon, the presumed "three heads of the dragon", are a smooth 'brothers and sister', instead of an uneven aunt/uncle/nephew team.
* We know that the Mad King was a little rapey.
* Why confirm that Lyanna was Jon's mother but not cite Rhaegar?
* If Tyrion WMG is real... he, Daenerys and Jon, the presumed "three heads of the dragon", are a smooth 'brothers and sister', instead of an uneven aunt/uncle/nephew team.
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*** What I was suggesting there is that Jon ins't indeed his true name, but the one chosen by Ned to cover the more "Targaryenish" one Lyanna gave to him.
She did actually choose to tell Ned and actually whispered what said name was, but Bran failed to hear it. It has been Ned's choice to change that in Jon to protect him.
I have suggested she may have chosen Aegon without Rhaegar's knowledge because at that point he has already left to battle and likely dead, with the only flaw in this theory that Rhaegar's son with Elia was named Aegon. The other nane I would pick is Rhaegar, making a case of DeadGuyJunior.
But again, whatever that name was, Ned thought was safer to change it in a more average "Jon".
She did actually choose to tell Ned and actually whispered what said name was, but Bran failed to hear it. It has been Ned's choice to change that in Jon to protect him.
I have suggested she may have chosen Aegon without Rhaegar's knowledge because at that point he has already left to battle and likely dead, with the only flaw in this theory that Rhaegar's son with Elia was named Aegon. The other nane I would pick is Rhaegar, making a case of DeadGuyJunior.
But again, whatever that name was, Ned thought was safer to change it in a more average "Jon".
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**** It's less a matter of making Tormund a lord and giving him lands and titles than it is making sure an important fortress is manned and defended for the wars to come. Tormund may not want a lordship, but he probably wouldn't mind having a keep, and you don't need the former to have the latter.
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** Aegon, Rhaegar's son with Ellia, had been born before Rhaegar died, and Rhaegar explicitly named the boy himself - in fact it's strongly suggested that the toll Aegon's birth had on Ellia - she was frail and unlikely to survive a third birth - is what prompted Rhaegar to look for another babymomma to fulfill his "The dragon has three heads" prophecy. However, Rhaegar was very much dead by the time Jon was born. Given that Rhaegar would have had to rally the Dornish forces, march up to King's Landing, rally the Royal Host, and march to the Trident where he died, and that Ned then had to march an army down to King's Landing, where he apparently waited for Robert to show back up, then march an army to Storm's End to relieve Stannis, and only then set out to the Tower of Joy where he happened to arrive the day Lyanna gave birth, Rhaegar died several months before Jon's birth. While it's hardly uncommon for couples to pick out names for their kids that far in advance, it's a debatable point as to whether or not that's the kid's 'true' name until it's born to be given the name. In any event, if Rhaegar and/or Lyanna did pick out a different name, Lyanna apparently chose not to pass it on to Ned, either because she knew it would be a tip off to his true parentage, or because she was a very unwilling participant in the whole thing and didn't want to honor her rapist's wishes for the name of her son. As it stands, WordOfGod is that Ned named Jon, almost certainly after Jon Aryn.
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* At this point their only move to maintain power is to sow unrest and rebellion against those who are rebelling against them. Fortunately for them, those rebels are in a particularly weak position - Olenna is all that remains of House Tyrell, making it effectively extinct given that she's well passed her child bearing years, and House Martell is actually extinct, given that Ellaria and the Sand Snakes are all bastards. For the Reach, at least, it probably wouldn't be too hard to convince Randal Tarly to turn against Olenna and try and seize power for himself - Tarly's a fairly big player in the books and his actor is too perfectly cast not to do more with than have him show up for a single awkward dinner.
* At this point their only move to maintain power is to sow unrest and rebellion against those who are rebelling against them. Fortunately for them, those rebels are in a particularly weak position - Olenna is all that remains of House Tyrell, making it effectively extinct given that she's well passed her child bearing years, and House Martell is actually extinct, given that Ellaria and the Sand Snakes are all bastards. For the Reach, at least, it probably wouldn't be too hard to convince Randal Tarly to turn against Olenna and try and seize power for himself - Tarly's a fairly big player in the books and his actor is too perfectly cast not to do more with than have him show up for a single awkward dinner.
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[[WMG: Arya did die at the Waif's hands.]]
How did a badly injured, bleeding Arya beat the Waif when she never could before? If she did, why didn't we get to see their fight? Simple: the Waif actually killed Arya and took her face. The Arya who confronts Jaqen afterward is actually the Waif, wearing Arya's face and getting really deep into character. In the finale, "Arya" was able to use a mask. The real Arya refused to become No One, and would not have used the masks again, knowing what it would do to her.
How did a badly injured, bleeding Arya beat the Waif when she never could before? If she did, why didn't we get to see their fight? Simple: the Waif actually killed Arya and took her face. The Arya who confronts Jaqen afterward is actually the Waif, wearing Arya's face and getting really deep into character. In the finale, "Arya" was able to use a mask. The real Arya refused to become No One, and would not have used the masks again, knowing what it would do to her.
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[[WMG: Jon's true name is either Aegon or Rhaegar]]
Let's think about it: Jon Connington has been AdaptedOut and his arc transferred to Jorah Mormont. Because of this is rather unlikely that we'll ever get to see Aegon in GoT.
What if his arc is transferred to Jon Snow and thus he was named after the first Targaryen ruler?
We know Rhaegar had already an Aegon back in King's Landing but he had no say in this naming because, well, he's already dead at that point.
Or...simply Jon is a DeadGuyJunior who's named after his father. And revealing of that naming will be the ultimate confirm that he's indeed Rhaegar's son, which it's not overtly stated but implied with the strength of a sledgehammer by Lyanna's suggestion of Robert killing her son.
Let's think about it: Jon Connington has been AdaptedOut and his arc transferred to Jorah Mormont. Because of this is rather unlikely that we'll ever get to see Aegon in GoT.
What if his arc is transferred to Jon Snow and thus he was named after the first Targaryen ruler?
We know Rhaegar had already an Aegon back in King's Landing but he had no say in this naming because, well, he's already dead at that point.
Or...simply Jon is a DeadGuyJunior who's named after his father. And revealing of that naming will be the ultimate confirm that he's indeed Rhaegar's son, which it's not overtly stated but implied with the strength of a sledgehammer by Lyanna's suggestion of Robert killing her son.
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It's possible the Children believed that possessing [[KryptoniteFactor dragonglass weapons]] would be enough to keep the White Walkers on a leash. And maybe it worked for a while. Then the White Walkers figured out how to make wights...
It's possible the Children believed that possessing [[KryptoniteFactor dragonglass weapons]] would be enough to keep the White Walkers on a leash. And maybe it worked for a while. Then the White Walkers figured out how to make wights...
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[[WMG: Euron Greyjoy will ally with Cersei]]
Since his plans to ally himself with Daenerys are down the drain thanks to Yara and Theon beating him to it, he will instead ally himself with Cersei, pledging the Iron Born fleet to her service. What will most likely happen next season will see the combined forces of the Greyjoy-Lannister fleet against the Targaryen fleet, which will end in a Pyrrhic victory to either or both sides.
Also, Euron will likely be seen with the Dragon Horn, and will likely (temporarily) take control of Dany's dragons.
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[[WMG: Loras and Cersei will be married.]]
[[spoiler:Although this will be a ''huge'' departure from the books,]] the writers may choose to go in this direction if they decide to keep Loras [[spoiler:out of the Kingsguard]] due to him being the sole male heir to Highgarden. After Margaery [[spoiler:marries Tommen]], there is no valid reason for Loras to stay in King's Landing [[spoiler:if he never dons the white cloak]]. Since Mace Tyrell will presumably [[spoiler:serve as Master of Ships on the Small Council]], Loras would be expected to return to Highgarden and rule in his stead. However, if Loras marries Cersei (however unwillingly), he will then become the husband of the Queen Regent and [[spoiler:more importantly, the ''stepfather'' of King Tommen]]. For dramatic purposes, the showrunners may prefer to heighten the Lannister-Tyrell dynamic by giving Loras a more powerful position than he had in the novels (his TV character has already been "promoted" to heir to Highgarden, after all). As [[spoiler:Tommen's stepfather]], Loras would exert greater authority than his book counterpart when [[spoiler:he and Margaery spend time with the young King in an attempt to limit Cersei's toxic influence on Tommen]]. Sure, Cersei is the Queen Regent, and will still retain her role in the political side of things, but in terms of how their marriage is run [[spoiler:and how Tommen is raised]], Loras as her husband would--at least in theory--trump her. (A similar real-life example--with a ruling queen regnant instead of a temporary queen regent--is Queen Elizabeth II and her husband Prince Philip. She is completely independent when performing her royal duties, but he is the dominant partner in their marriage.)
* There may be a hint in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM3vZxrFo24 this featurette]], where Roger Ashton-Griffiths says of his character, "I'm interested in the welfare of my children, by which I mean I want them to sit on the Iron Throne." Notice that the actor specifically uses the word "children," so unlike book!Mace, the TV version may want Loras to become part of the royal family in addition to Margaery. In Loras' case, the best Mace can hope for is for his son to be married to the Queen Regent, as Myrcella has already been betrothed to a Martell.
** There is also Jaime's comment in "The Lion and the Rose" where he mentions that both Tywin and Mace are very keen to see Cersei and Loras wed.
[[WMG: Loras will never join [[spoiler:Joffrey's or Tommen's Kingsguard.]]]]
He is the only son of Mace Tyrell on the show, so it's extremely doubtful that he would purposely endanger the ''survival'' of his House by [[spoiler:donning the white cloak]]. As much as he hates being betrothed to Cersei, it's difficult to imagine the dutiful Knight of Flowers placing his own selfish desire to escape a miserable marriage above his family's long-term future. According to GRRM, [[http://winteriscoming.net/2013/10/grrm-talks-season-4-beyond/ Willas and Garlan Tyrell will have important parts to play in future novels]]. TV!Loras is already a CompositeCharacter of his AdaptedOut brothers, so it's reasonable to assume that he will take over their roles at a later date. From the point of the view of the writers, it's better to keep Loras out of the [[spoiler:order]] so that he is free to leave King's Landing when the story requires him to [[spoiler:(e.g. like defending the Reach from the Ironborn)]].
[[spoiler:Although this will be a ''huge'' departure from the books,]] the writers may choose to go in this direction if they decide to keep Loras [[spoiler:out of the Kingsguard]] due to him being the sole male heir to Highgarden. After Margaery [[spoiler:marries Tommen]], there is no valid reason for Loras to stay in King's Landing [[spoiler:if he never dons the white cloak]]. Since Mace Tyrell will presumably [[spoiler:serve as Master of Ships on the Small Council]], Loras would be expected to return to Highgarden and rule in his stead. However, if Loras marries Cersei (however unwillingly), he will then become the husband of the Queen Regent and [[spoiler:more importantly, the ''stepfather'' of King Tommen]]. For dramatic purposes, the showrunners may prefer to heighten the Lannister-Tyrell dynamic by giving Loras a more powerful position than he had in the novels (his TV character has already been "promoted" to heir to Highgarden, after all). As [[spoiler:Tommen's stepfather]], Loras would exert greater authority than his book counterpart when [[spoiler:he and Margaery spend time with the young King in an attempt to limit Cersei's toxic influence on Tommen]]. Sure, Cersei is the Queen Regent, and will still retain her role in the political side of things, but in terms of how their marriage is run [[spoiler:and how Tommen is raised]], Loras as her husband would--at least in theory--trump her. (A similar real-life example--with a ruling queen regnant instead of a temporary queen regent--is Queen Elizabeth II and her husband Prince Philip. She is completely independent when performing her royal duties, but he is the dominant partner in their marriage.)
* There may be a hint in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM3vZxrFo24 this featurette]], where Roger Ashton-Griffiths says of his character, "I'm interested in the welfare of my children, by which I mean I want them to sit on the Iron Throne." Notice that the actor specifically uses the word "children," so unlike book!Mace, the TV version may want Loras to become part of the royal family in addition to Margaery. In Loras' case, the best Mace can hope for is for his son to be married to the Queen Regent, as Myrcella has already been betrothed to a Martell.
** There is also Jaime's comment in "The Lion and the Rose" where he mentions that both Tywin and Mace are very keen to see Cersei and Loras wed.
[[WMG: Loras will never join [[spoiler:Joffrey's or Tommen's Kingsguard.]]]]
He is the only son of Mace Tyrell on the show, so it's extremely doubtful that he would purposely endanger the ''survival'' of his House by [[spoiler:donning the white cloak]]. As much as he hates being betrothed to Cersei, it's difficult to imagine the dutiful Knight of Flowers placing his own selfish desire to escape a miserable marriage above his family's long-term future. According to GRRM, [[http://winteriscoming.net/2013/10/grrm-talks-season-4-beyond/ Willas and Garlan Tyrell will have important parts to play in future novels]]. TV!Loras is already a CompositeCharacter of his AdaptedOut brothers, so it's reasonable to assume that he will take over their roles at a later date. From the point of the view of the writers, it's better to keep Loras out of the [[spoiler:order]] so that he is free to leave King's Landing when the story requires him to [[spoiler:(e.g. like defending the Reach from the Ironborn)]].
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[[WMG: Yara Greyjoy will do to Ramsay what he did to Theon.]]
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[[WMG: Jaime will give his position in the Kingsguard to Loras]]
The Kingsguard is made of 7 sworn knights, no more no less. While it is for life, Barristan's forced resignation (ironically to give his commander position to Jaime) sets a precedent for Jaime himself doing it, and the loss of his swordhand is the perfect excuse since he can't protect the King without it anyway. This will be a delight for Tywin, who wants Jaime to inherit Casterly Rock, marry and sire children that will keep it away from Tyrion (the Kingsguard requires celibacy and holding no lands or titles); but Jaime won't do it for him. He will as part of a gamble to save Cersei from a second arranged marriage and keep her to himself. So, in order to cancel the Cersei-Loras match, Jaime will offer Loras the Kingsguard position as his way out of the marriage, and Loras, being gay and Cersei being, well, Cersei, will accept. Joffrey will accept to name Loras behind Tywin's back because [[spoiler:he'll be bitter and want to piss off his grandfather after a discussion between the two]], as hinted by the promo and released synopsis for 3x10, and he's certainly petty and stupid enough to damage Tyrell-Lannister relations by doing this without sparing a second.
* There should be an open spot in the Kingsguard from when the Hound deserted.
** Actually, [[SeriousBusiness fans who have counted]] the Kingsguards in the background in Season 3 have concluded that they are 7 if you count Jaime and the one that went to Dorne with Myrcella, suggesting that the Hound's spot was filled between seasons. (Book spoiler: [[spoiler:His name's Osmund Kettleblack.]])
The Kingsguard is made of 7 sworn knights, no more no less. While it is for life, Barristan's forced resignation (ironically to give his commander position to Jaime) sets a precedent for Jaime himself doing it, and the loss of his swordhand is the perfect excuse since he can't protect the King without it anyway. This will be a delight for Tywin, who wants Jaime to inherit Casterly Rock, marry and sire children that will keep it away from Tyrion (the Kingsguard requires celibacy and holding no lands or titles); but Jaime won't do it for him. He will as part of a gamble to save Cersei from a second arranged marriage and keep her to himself. So, in order to cancel the Cersei-Loras match, Jaime will offer Loras the Kingsguard position as his way out of the marriage, and Loras, being gay and Cersei being, well, Cersei, will accept. Joffrey will accept to name Loras behind Tywin's back because [[spoiler:he'll be bitter and want to piss off his grandfather after a discussion between the two]], as hinted by the promo and released synopsis for 3x10, and he's certainly petty and stupid enough to damage Tyrell-Lannister relations by doing this without sparing a second.
* There should be an open spot in the Kingsguard from when the Hound deserted.
** Actually, [[SeriousBusiness fans who have counted]] the Kingsguards in the background in Season 3 have concluded that they are 7 if you count Jaime and the one that went to Dorne with Myrcella, suggesting that the Hound's spot was filled between seasons. (Book spoiler: [[spoiler:His name's Osmund Kettleblack.]])
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[[WMG: Loras will die.]]
* If you haven't read book 4, turn back now! [[spoiler: In A Feast for Crows, Loras recieves mortal wounds during a raid on Dragonstone, having been put to the obviously suicidal mission by Cersei. By A Dance with Dragons, he has still not recovered. He seems to have done his plot duty by this point and it's not likely we'll ever see him again. As of season three, Loras's role has been upped from the book, and David and Dan seem to be even more bloodthirsty than the original author. Chances are they're going to go right for the throat (or burning oil) and follow up on the show's murderous reputation. It grows ever more likely with every Loras scene, as he's quickly becoming a fan favorite.]]
** In the episode Mhysa, Cersei tells Tyrion in no uncertain terms she won't be marrying Ser Loras. How could she pull this off without angering Tywin? Seems this might be the way to do it...
*** Loras's death will anger Olenna a lot, even more than Joffrey's treatment of Margaery already has. Mace (who will now appear) may try doing something, but god knows he's always ineffective. But Olenna standing there taking the death of her grandson like nothing? Oh-no. [[spoiler: It will lead nicely to her poisoning Joffrey. And the best part? If the above troper is right, it will be Cersei's fault.]] Maybe now that Stannis is already on his way to the wall, Cersei will set the Siege of Dragonstone earlier.
*** ''If'' Loras dies in Season 4, it won't occur before [[spoiler:the PW because Finn Jones has appeared in at least three HBO featurettes dressed in Loras' flowery outfit with the outdoor wedding feast set in the background.]]
** I very much doubt that TV!Loras will be killed off before the events of ''The Winds of Winter'' because according to GRRM, [[http://winteriscoming.net/2013/10/grrm-talks-season-4-beyond/ Willas and Garlan Tyrell will have important parts to play in future novels]]. TV!Loras is already a CompositeCharacter of his AdaptedOut brothers, so he will most likely take over their roles in the later seasons.
* If you haven't read book 4, turn back now! [[spoiler: In A Feast for Crows, Loras recieves mortal wounds during a raid on Dragonstone, having been put to the obviously suicidal mission by Cersei. By A Dance with Dragons, he has still not recovered. He seems to have done his plot duty by this point and it's not likely we'll ever see him again. As of season three, Loras's role has been upped from the book, and David and Dan seem to be even more bloodthirsty than the original author. Chances are they're going to go right for the throat (or burning oil) and follow up on the show's murderous reputation. It grows ever more likely with every Loras scene, as he's quickly becoming a fan favorite.]]
** In the episode Mhysa, Cersei tells Tyrion in no uncertain terms she won't be marrying Ser Loras. How could she pull this off without angering Tywin? Seems this might be the way to do it...
*** Loras's death will anger Olenna a lot, even more than Joffrey's treatment of Margaery already has. Mace (who will now appear) may try doing something, but god knows he's always ineffective. But Olenna standing there taking the death of her grandson like nothing? Oh-no. [[spoiler: It will lead nicely to her poisoning Joffrey. And the best part? If the above troper is right, it will be Cersei's fault.]] Maybe now that Stannis is already on his way to the wall, Cersei will set the Siege of Dragonstone earlier.
*** ''If'' Loras dies in Season 4, it won't occur before [[spoiler:the PW because Finn Jones has appeared in at least three HBO featurettes dressed in Loras' flowery outfit with the outdoor wedding feast set in the background.]]
** I very much doubt that TV!Loras will be killed off before the events of ''The Winds of Winter'' because according to GRRM, [[http://winteriscoming.net/2013/10/grrm-talks-season-4-beyond/ Willas and Garlan Tyrell will have important parts to play in future novels]]. TV!Loras is already a CompositeCharacter of his AdaptedOut brothers, so he will most likely take over their roles in the later seasons.
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[[WMG:Or Jon Snow is the Bastard Child of Lyanna Stark...]]
Why not both? They were in love, after all.
* Not necessarily. Robert was in love with Lyanna, yes, but the books imply this was mainly from a distance and don't give any indication they ever actually slept together. Lyanna is even suggested to have been somewhat cynical about the arrangement; a flashback has her telling Ned that she knew Robert would never be satisfied with just one woman, even her. The popular guess, though this hasn't been confirmed in any way shape or form, is that Jon is the bastard of Lyanna and ''Rhaegar'', followed up by him being the bastard of Ned or his brother Brandon and Ashara Dayne.
* More on the Jon is son of Lyanna Stark: In his last conversation with Ned, he tells him (paraphrasing) "You don't have my name, but you have my blood". That fits a bastard son [[JediTruth as much as a nephew by your sister]]. Too bad he didn't live to fullfill what he promised when he said "We'll speak some day about your mother".
** Don't you know? "We'll speak about this some day" is TV talk for "This is the last time you will see me before my untimely demise."
* Another problem with this is that if Jon was Robert's child by Lyanna, there is no way in the seven hells Robert ''wouldn't'' claim the kid as his own. Hell, he'd probably raise him at court. Something not mentioned in the show yet, but will become a plot point in the second season is that Robert does have a bastard he acknowledges back in Storm's End, and he's really more of a father to that kid than he ever was to Joffery. That was specifically because Robert deflowered a daughter of a noble(if somewhat minor) house on his brother's wedding bed, so he couldn't very well deny the kid was his. But he actually loved Lyanna and never cared about humiliating Cersei. He'd hold onto his and Lyanna's son for dear life. Hell, he might even legitimize him(king's can declare bastard children legit) and name him heir, but that might go a little too far towards pissing off Tywin.
** All the more reason to suspect he might be Rhaegar's. Consider, if you will, Jaime's little speech about Jon Snow: "You hated that boy, didn't you? The walking, talking reminder that the honorable Lord Eddard Stark fucked another woman." Now multiply that by Robert's irrationality, hatred of Rhaegar, obsession with Lyanna, fondness for the war hammer, and record for caring about the deaths of inconvenient Targaryen babies (0-2) and you start to see why Ned Stark would want to keep the kid a secret.
*** (guy who posted that bit about why Robert would have kept Jon if he was his bastard here) Personally I subscribe to the (book based speculation) [[spoiler:Ned Stark/Ashara Dayne theory. Which isn't to say the Rheargar/Lyanna theory doesn't hold a lot of water, but one of the reasons I don't buy it is because it's set up so nicely and that's exactly the kind of bait and switch Martin would go for. I'm just pointing out that this Robert+Lyanna= Jon theory just doesn't hold up.]]
*** Except that idea of the bait&switch of Jon's parentage being so obvious it could lead fans to disregard it completely could be the whole point of that. Granted, this troper is very new to the series (haven't read the books yet, only seen the first few eps of season 1, but been reading a lot of rather spoileriffic entries here and numerous clips on YouTube) but don't forget that there's a fine line between being on to the writer's tricks and the writer is deliberately setting you up with something so seemingly obvious that you dismiss the possibility entirely.
*** Robert may have kept Jon if he were his bastard, if he knew about it. He may have never seen Lyanna pregnant, what with the whole kidnapping thing, and she may have wanted to keep Jon out of the royal family. After all, in this theory, she'd just been kidnapped and (presumably) raped by the prince; she's probably not all that enthusiastic about her son becoming a prince. And being as she was dying, Robert would have to marry someone else, and whoever that woman was, she probably wouldn't be happy about Robert's son with another woman hanging around (obviously, Catelyn wasn't happy about that either, but being as the Starks aren't royalty, it matters somewhat less to the realm. Also, Ned kind of got lucky with Cat; yeah, she wasn't happy about Jon, but she never outright mistreated him. Can you imagine, say, Cersei doing the same?)
Why not both? They were in love, after all.
* Not necessarily. Robert was in love with Lyanna, yes, but the books imply this was mainly from a distance and don't give any indication they ever actually slept together. Lyanna is even suggested to have been somewhat cynical about the arrangement; a flashback has her telling Ned that she knew Robert would never be satisfied with just one woman, even her. The popular guess, though this hasn't been confirmed in any way shape or form, is that Jon is the bastard of Lyanna and ''Rhaegar'', followed up by him being the bastard of Ned or his brother Brandon and Ashara Dayne.
* More on the Jon is son of Lyanna Stark: In his last conversation with Ned, he tells him (paraphrasing) "You don't have my name, but you have my blood". That fits a bastard son [[JediTruth as much as a nephew by your sister]]. Too bad he didn't live to fullfill what he promised when he said "We'll speak some day about your mother".
** Don't you know? "We'll speak about this some day" is TV talk for "This is the last time you will see me before my untimely demise."
* Another problem with this is that if Jon was Robert's child by Lyanna, there is no way in the seven hells Robert ''wouldn't'' claim the kid as his own. Hell, he'd probably raise him at court. Something not mentioned in the show yet, but will become a plot point in the second season is that Robert does have a bastard he acknowledges back in Storm's End, and he's really more of a father to that kid than he ever was to Joffery. That was specifically because Robert deflowered a daughter of a noble(if somewhat minor) house on his brother's wedding bed, so he couldn't very well deny the kid was his. But he actually loved Lyanna and never cared about humiliating Cersei. He'd hold onto his and Lyanna's son for dear life. Hell, he might even legitimize him(king's can declare bastard children legit) and name him heir, but that might go a little too far towards pissing off Tywin.
** All the more reason to suspect he might be Rhaegar's. Consider, if you will, Jaime's little speech about Jon Snow: "You hated that boy, didn't you? The walking, talking reminder that the honorable Lord Eddard Stark fucked another woman." Now multiply that by Robert's irrationality, hatred of Rhaegar, obsession with Lyanna, fondness for the war hammer, and record for caring about the deaths of inconvenient Targaryen babies (0-2) and you start to see why Ned Stark would want to keep the kid a secret.
*** (guy who posted that bit about why Robert would have kept Jon if he was his bastard here) Personally I subscribe to the (book based speculation) [[spoiler:Ned Stark/Ashara Dayne theory. Which isn't to say the Rheargar/Lyanna theory doesn't hold a lot of water, but one of the reasons I don't buy it is because it's set up so nicely and that's exactly the kind of bait and switch Martin would go for. I'm just pointing out that this Robert+Lyanna= Jon theory just doesn't hold up.]]
*** Except that idea of the bait&switch of Jon's parentage being so obvious it could lead fans to disregard it completely could be the whole point of that. Granted, this troper is very new to the series (haven't read the books yet, only seen the first few eps of season 1, but been reading a lot of rather spoileriffic entries here and numerous clips on YouTube) but don't forget that there's a fine line between being on to the writer's tricks and the writer is deliberately setting you up with something so seemingly obvious that you dismiss the possibility entirely.
*** Robert may have kept Jon if he were his bastard, if he knew about it. He may have never seen Lyanna pregnant, what with the whole kidnapping thing, and she may have wanted to keep Jon out of the royal family. After all, in this theory, she'd just been kidnapped and (presumably) raped by the prince; she's probably not all that enthusiastic about her son becoming a prince. And being as she was dying, Robert would have to marry someone else, and whoever that woman was, she probably wouldn't be happy about Robert's son with another woman hanging around (obviously, Catelyn wasn't happy about that either, but being as the Starks aren't royalty, it matters somewhat less to the realm. Also, Ned kind of got lucky with Cat; yeah, she wasn't happy about Jon, but she never outright mistreated him. Can you imagine, say, Cersei doing the same?)
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Lady Stoneheart's debut appearance]]]]
* Too much time has passed in-universe for [[spoiler: Lady Stoneheart's resurrection]] to happen onscreen. So what if instead of seeing [[spoiler: her condemn some random Frey mook]], the show waits for [[spoiler: Brienne's meeting with her]] to reveal that [[spoiler: she's alive?]] There can be rumors of [[spoiler: the brotherhood being led by some coldhearted]] person that no one lives to report back on, and then BOOM! [[spoiler: Stoneheart captures Brienne in season 5 or 6 and the audience is as surprised as she is.]]
* Too much time has passed in-universe for [[spoiler: Lady Stoneheart's resurrection]] to happen onscreen. So what if instead of seeing [[spoiler: her condemn some random Frey mook]], the show waits for [[spoiler: Brienne's meeting with her]] to reveal that [[spoiler: she's alive?]] There can be rumors of [[spoiler: the brotherhood being led by some coldhearted]] person that no one lives to report back on, and then BOOM! [[spoiler: Stoneheart captures Brienne in season 5 or 6 and the audience is as surprised as she is.]]
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[[WMG: The Night's King will be the one behind [[spoiler: Lady Stoneheart]].]]
A change from the books, but it will be used to show the White Walkers ''aren't'' taking their game and gaining influence in Westeros. This goes with the theory that the Night's King [[spoiler:is connected to the Starks, and thus, he'd be using Stoneheart!Lady Stark as his proxy.]]
A change from the books, but it will be used to show the White Walkers ''aren't'' taking their game and gaining influence in Westeros. This goes with the theory that the Night's King [[spoiler:is connected to the Starks, and thus, he'd be using Stoneheart!Lady Stark as his proxy.]]
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[[WMG: Ramsay Snow is the real hero]]
Since the showrunners have an absolute man crush on Bolton and elevate him into ridiculous levels of VillainSue via AdaptationalBadass, he's going to rape and marry Dany, secretly be Azor Ahai, defeat the Night's King in single combat without a Valyrian steel sword, rise to the Iron Throne and be given a lifelong pardon by the High Sparrow and the Old Gods to rape and hunt women for the rest of his life with all impunity.
* At the end of Season 5, he's well on his way to his destiny, outfitted with PlotArmor.
** [[spoiler:Jossed gloriously by his KarmicDeath at the hands of Sansa.]]
Since the showrunners have an absolute man crush on Bolton and elevate him into ridiculous levels of VillainSue via AdaptationalBadass, he's going to rape and marry Dany, secretly be Azor Ahai, defeat the Night's King in single combat without a Valyrian steel sword, rise to the Iron Throne and be given a lifelong pardon by the High Sparrow and the Old Gods to rape and hunt women for the rest of his life with all impunity.
* At the end of Season 5, he's well on his way to his destiny, outfitted with PlotArmor.
** [[spoiler:Jossed gloriously by his KarmicDeath at the hands of Sansa.]]
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[[WMG: Alternative to the above, in Season 6 Cersei will have her maester revive Myrcella like he did with Gregor]]
The boat will arrive to King's Landing, and Jaime or Trystane will sadly carry Myrcella to her childhood home. Cersei will deny the possibility to bury her, and possibly the First Sparrow would refuse Myrcella at the sept anyways. So Qyburn will step in to aid his Queen once again, and revive Myrcella for Cersei. Obviously this will be bad, and it doesn't circumvent the childhood prophecy given to Cersei at the start of season 5. But how bad? No idea, knock yourselves out.
* She'll end up being basically an undead, female Joffrey. Sweet dreams.
The boat will arrive to King's Landing, and Jaime or Trystane will sadly carry Myrcella to her childhood home. Cersei will deny the possibility to bury her, and possibly the First Sparrow would refuse Myrcella at the sept anyways. So Qyburn will step in to aid his Queen once again, and revive Myrcella for Cersei. Obviously this will be bad, and it doesn't circumvent the childhood prophecy given to Cersei at the start of season 5. But how bad? No idea, knock yourselves out.
* She'll end up being basically an undead, female Joffrey. Sweet dreams.
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[[WMG:Doran approves of the death of Myrcella and is using Jamie for the Fire and Blood plot]]
Seen this brought up. Doran approaves of the death of Myrcella as revenge for the murder of Elia by The Mountain, not for the death of Oberyn. The ship Jaime and Bronn are on is a Martell ship and thus both men will be held captive as it travels to Mareen. The plan is for Trystane to offer a marriage alliance with Dany and Jamie is a 'wedding present'
* Jossed. Doran is not book!Doran who is TheChessmaster and doesn't know about the poisoning until he got Jaime's latter. Also Jaime and Bronn went back to King's Landing with Myrcella's body. And it's unlikely that there's going to be an alliance with Dany since Trystane is gone.
Seen this brought up. Doran approaves of the death of Myrcella as revenge for the murder of Elia by The Mountain, not for the death of Oberyn. The ship Jaime and Bronn are on is a Martell ship and thus both men will be held captive as it travels to Mareen. The plan is for Trystane to offer a marriage alliance with Dany and Jamie is a 'wedding present'
* Jossed. Doran is not book!Doran who is TheChessmaster and doesn't know about the poisoning until he got Jaime's latter. Also Jaime and Bronn went back to King's Landing with Myrcella's body. And it's unlikely that there's going to be an alliance with Dany since Trystane is gone.
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[[WMG: Dany will find common cause with the Martells]]
* Tellingly, in her conversation with Tyrion leading up to her "Break the wheel" speech, neither Dorne nor the Martells are brought up. Indeed, given how neither were really involved in either Robert's Rebellion or the War of the Five Kings, it'd make sense that she would find no reason to strike at them. But given their mutual distrust with the rest of Westeros, it'd make sense that she might at least find them convenient allies.
[[WMG: Yara Greyjoy will become captain of the Iron Fleet]]
The series has been streamlining the narrative by eliminating and conflating minor characters. One casualty of this is going to be Victarion Greyjoy. Instead, Yara -- who is clearly not going to be captured by Stannis at this point in the narrative -- will take his role leading the Ironborn to Essos.
* Tellingly, in her conversation with Tyrion leading up to her "Break the wheel" speech, neither Dorne nor the Martells are brought up. Indeed, given how neither were really involved in either Robert's Rebellion or the War of the Five Kings, it'd make sense that she would find no reason to strike at them. But given their mutual distrust with the rest of Westeros, it'd make sense that she might at least find them convenient allies.
[[WMG: Yara Greyjoy will become captain of the Iron Fleet]]
The series has been streamlining the narrative by eliminating and conflating minor characters. One casualty of this is going to be Victarion Greyjoy. Instead, Yara -- who is clearly not going to be captured by Stannis at this point in the narrative -- will take his role leading the Ironborn to Essos.
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[[WMG: Melissandre's vision of Jon Snow fighting in Winterfell will come true]]
With Jon's resurrection, her vision will come true. But in a different way than we think. It is made clear that the Starks and Bolton's will battle, but from the looks of things from the trailers, they won't be fighting at Winterfell. I believe that the vision foreshadows a Stark victory (supported by the newly arrived army from the Vale), and the vision of Jon fighting at Winterfell will be him and his army killing Ramsay and the few Bolton troops he has left.
With Jon's resurrection, her vision will come true. But in a different way than we think. It is made clear that the Starks and Bolton's will battle, but from the looks of things from the trailers, they won't be fighting at Winterfell. I believe that the vision foreshadows a Stark victory (supported by the newly arrived army from the Vale), and the vision of Jon fighting at Winterfell will be him and his army killing Ramsay and the few Bolton troops he has left.
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[[WMG: Kevan Lannister and Pycelle will be killed on orders from Qyburn in the adaptation.]]
This happens by way of [[spoiler:Varys]] in the books. Since he's elsewhere, he's replaced (by the writers on a meta level and by the Lannisters in-universe) with Qyburn. [[spoiler:Qyburn has already been shown turning Varys's 'little birds' to his side.]] The motives will also be different. [[spoiler:Varys was working in an attempt to destabilize the Lannisters, possibly opening the door for (fake?) Aegon.]] In this case, it will be on Cersei's orders, which will obviously leave an open spot on the Council, where Cersei will advise Tommen to name the most "natural" replacement for the position - Jaime Lannister. This will allow the 'Royal Family' to essentially rule together as King, Queen Mother, and King's Hand. (Of course, Tommen actually being a pretty nice guy and this being Game of Thrones and all, things will quickly find a way to go to hell in a handbasket by the following episode.)
* In s06e08, Varys makes a journey to King's Landing, leaving Mereen in the hands of Tyrion. Perhaps the show will follow the books in this way after all.
[[WMG: Jon Snow will join the White Walkers.]]
After losing everything he ever believed in, and then being killed by people he thought he could trust, he's finally had enough of everyone and everything. Season 6 will end with him kneeling before the Night's King and offering his sword in service to wiping Westeros clean.
This happens by way of [[spoiler:Varys]] in the books. Since he's elsewhere, he's replaced (by the writers on a meta level and by the Lannisters in-universe) with Qyburn. [[spoiler:Qyburn has already been shown turning Varys's 'little birds' to his side.]] The motives will also be different. [[spoiler:Varys was working in an attempt to destabilize the Lannisters, possibly opening the door for (fake?) Aegon.]] In this case, it will be on Cersei's orders, which will obviously leave an open spot on the Council, where Cersei will advise Tommen to name the most "natural" replacement for the position - Jaime Lannister. This will allow the 'Royal Family' to essentially rule together as King, Queen Mother, and King's Hand. (Of course, Tommen actually being a pretty nice guy and this being Game of Thrones and all, things will quickly find a way to go to hell in a handbasket by the following episode.)
* In s06e08, Varys makes a journey to King's Landing, leaving Mereen in the hands of Tyrion. Perhaps the show will follow the books in this way after all.
[[WMG: Jon Snow will join the White Walkers.]]
After losing everything he ever believed in, and then being killed by people he thought he could trust, he's finally had enough of everyone and everything. Season 6 will end with him kneeling before the Night's King and offering his sword in service to wiping Westeros clean.
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[[WMG: The Children of the Forest underestimated the White Walkers' powers when they created them.]]
It's possible the Children believed that possessing [[KryptoniteFactor dragonglass weapons]] would be enough to keep the White Walkers on a leash. And maybe it worked for a while. Then the White Walkers figured out how to make wights...
It's possible the Children believed that possessing [[KryptoniteFactor dragonglass weapons]] would be enough to keep the White Walkers on a leash. And maybe it worked for a while. Then the White Walkers figured out how to make wights...
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[[WMG: Just like Joffrey was an {{Expy}} to Aerys II, Tommen will become one to Baelor "the Blessed" Targaryen.]]
[[spoiler: As episode 6-6 shows, he's already been swayed by the High Sparrow toward religious fanaticism.]] This will result in, among other things, the formerly, erm... [[HormoneAddledTeenager excitable]] Tommen becoming suddenly very chaste toward Margeary. He may not go quite to the extreme of his predecessor as far as [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny locking Margeary in a dungeon to avoid being tempted]], but this new attitude might prove slightly problematic as far as producing an heir goes. And if[=/=]when he dies, that'll set the stage for all seven hells to break loose in Westeros. From a legal standpoint, he's the last Baratheon left.
[[spoiler: As episode 6-6 shows, he's already been swayed by the High Sparrow toward religious fanaticism.]] This will result in, among other things, the formerly, erm... [[HormoneAddledTeenager excitable]] Tommen becoming suddenly very chaste toward Margeary. He may not go quite to the extreme of his predecessor as far as [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny locking Margeary in a dungeon to avoid being tempted]], but this new attitude might prove slightly problematic as far as producing an heir goes. And if[=/=]when he dies, that'll set the stage for all seven hells to break loose in Westeros. From a legal standpoint, he's the last Baratheon left.
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[[WMG: The Mountain will kill Tommen in a Trial by Combat.]]
Why else would they be setting up Tommen as a fanatic of the Faith, unless it was to later have him represent them when Cersei gets her trial by combat?
Tommen declares himself the Champion of the Faith, sure that the Gods are on his side, Cersei watches in horror as her foolproof plan of 'sic the Mountain on whoever the Faith chooses and insta win' falls apart spectacularly, Gregor cuts him down and Cersei's prophecy is one step closer to fulfilled.
[[WMG: Tommen will be convinced to do the above by Margaery.]]
The most recent episode or two has shown that there's a plan of some sort afoot. Also, Margaery's tactics have changed; whereas in the beginning of their engagement and subsequent marriage, she basically controlled Tommen with her sex appeal, it's now been noted that she hasn't been to bed with him since the Faith released her. This may indicate that the plan involves Tommen being sexually frustrated (so Margaery can get him to do something stupid). Or it could mean that Margaery wants to avoid any chance of getting pregnant by Tommen - perhaps because Tommen's death effectively finishes the Royal Family if he has no heir.
[[WMG: Alternatively, the Mountain will kill ''himself'' in the above fight on Cersei's orders and Cersei will essentially sacrifice herself to save Tommen.]]
Unfortunately, this will push Tommen over the edge and the final parts of the series will portray his descent into Madness, setting ''him'' up as the Aerys {{Expy}} and not Joffrey. [[labelnote:In the books...]]Remember, Aerys started as a sane, decent king, but a rebellion and a long-term imprisonment caused him to emerge with paranoia and significant psychological damage.[[/labelnote]]
Why else would they be setting up Tommen as a fanatic of the Faith, unless it was to later have him represent them when Cersei gets her trial by combat?
Tommen declares himself the Champion of the Faith, sure that the Gods are on his side, Cersei watches in horror as her foolproof plan of 'sic the Mountain on whoever the Faith chooses and insta win' falls apart spectacularly, Gregor cuts him down and Cersei's prophecy is one step closer to fulfilled.
[[WMG: Tommen will be convinced to do the above by Margaery.]]
The most recent episode or two has shown that there's a plan of some sort afoot. Also, Margaery's tactics have changed; whereas in the beginning of their engagement and subsequent marriage, she basically controlled Tommen with her sex appeal, it's now been noted that she hasn't been to bed with him since the Faith released her. This may indicate that the plan involves Tommen being sexually frustrated (so Margaery can get him to do something stupid). Or it could mean that Margaery wants to avoid any chance of getting pregnant by Tommen - perhaps because Tommen's death effectively finishes the Royal Family if he has no heir.
[[WMG: Alternatively, the Mountain will kill ''himself'' in the above fight on Cersei's orders and Cersei will essentially sacrifice herself to save Tommen.]]
Unfortunately, this will push Tommen over the edge and the final parts of the series will portray his descent into Madness, setting ''him'' up as the Aerys {{Expy}} and not Joffrey. [[labelnote:In the books...]]Remember, Aerys started as a sane, decent king, but a rebellion and a long-term imprisonment caused him to emerge with paranoia and significant psychological damage.[[/labelnote]]
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Why else would they be setting up Tommen as a fanatic of the Faith, unless it was to later have him represent them when Cersei gets her trial by combat?
Tommen declares himself the Champion of the Faith, sure that the Gods are on his side, Cersei watches in horror as her foolproof plan of 'sic the Mountain on whoever the Faith chooses and insta win' falls apart spectacularly, Gregor cuts him down and Cersei's prophecy is one step closer to fulfilled.
[[WMG: Tommen will be convinced to do the above by Margaery.]]
The most recent episode or two has shown that there's a plan of some sort afoot. Also, Margaery's tactics have changed; whereas in the beginning of their engagement and subsequent marriage, she basically controlled Tommen with her sex appeal, it's now been noted that she hasn't been to bed with him since the Faith released her. This may indicate that the plan involves Tommen being sexually frustrated (so Margaery can get him to do something stupid). Or it could mean that Margaery wants to avoid any chance of getting pregnant by Tommen - perhaps because Tommen's death effectively finishes the Royal Family if he has no heir.
[[WMG: Alternatively, the Mountain will kill ''himself'' in the above fight on Cersei's orders and Cersei will essentially sacrifice herself to save Tommen.]]
Unfortunately, this will push Tommen over the edge and the final parts of the series will portray his descent into Madness, setting ''him'' up as the Aerys {{Expy}} and not Joffrey. [[labelnote:In the books...]]Remember, Aerys started as a sane, decent king, but a rebellion and a long-term imprisonment caused him to emerge with paranoia and significant psychological damage.[[/labelnote]]
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[[WMG: Rickon will die, and it will indirectly cause the White Walker invasion]]
Why? Because Bran.
Most fans seem to believe Rickon will die during the Battle of the Bastards, and that the Starks will reclaim Winterfell. But if so, what then? As far as anyone knows, the Starks are left with no trueborn male heirs. Their options are Sansa, Ned Stark's last known legitimate child, but a woman and one who married into both the family they just took Winterfell back from and the much despised Lannisters, and Jon, a bastard whose greatest support comes from Wildlings, who much of the North (if not all Seven Kingdoms) despise. The chances of either of them being able to unite the North behind their authority seem low.
There's also the question of Jon's legitimacy: they might find a will from Robb Stark that legitimises him, but any will found three years after its author's death is going to be suspect and prone to accusations of forgery. Besides: the North is tired, exhausted itself in one great war that accomplished nothing but getting them taken over by {{CompleteMonster}}s. There's no way to claim Jon's legitimisation is, um, legitimate without claiming Robb Stark was in fact the rightful king, and hence restarting the campaign against the Iron Throne.
Half of the North will be all for this, and believing they'll need a strong Warrior King, uncompromised by his political alliances, will throw their support behind Jon. The other half, desperately wanting to avoid war, will throw their support behind Sansa. Sansa and Jon will be horrified by this and maintain they can rule together, but factions will develop nonetheless, almost pushing the North into civil war, with a few Bolton remnants screwing things up even more.
In the middle of this, Bran will get a vision showing him Rickon's death, and the state of the North afterwards. He'll be guilt-stricken, since it was he who willingly left Rickon and who told Rickon the Umbers would protect him, when they sold him over to Ramsay. Bran will see that the North has turned into a powderkeg, and decide the only way to avoid it boiling over into another war that could get one or both of his remaining siblings killed, is for [[RightfulKingReturns the rightful Lord to return]].
However, he's still marked by the Night King, and going back past the wall runs the risk of the White Walkers coming with him. It'll be one of those love-or-honour [[SadisticChoice choices]] that the Gods love throwing at the Starks. Either Bran won't be sure whether his mark applies just to the cave or all magic protecting men from the White Walkers, and decide to risk it, or he'll rationalise that they're coming anyway no matter what he does. Either way, a trueborn son of Ned Stark will return to Winterfell – [[FromBadToWorse with a massive army of ice zombies on his tail.]]
[[WMG: The High Sparrow's plan involves telling Tommen of his true heritage]]
Given everything he knows about Cersei, chances are the High Sparrow believes the rumours about her and Jaime, and will use them. He'll wait until he's more confident he has Tommen completely under his thumb, and then 'prove' (possibly with faked evidence, since I can't see what real evidence there would be pre-DNA) that he is in fact Jaime and Cersei's child. This will motivate Tommen to either abdicate (as his claim to the throne is illegitimate) or, more grimly and in line with Cersei's prophecy, [[DrivenToSuicide commit suicide]] (as in the eyes of the Faith he is an abomination). Either way, this will trigger a SuccessionCrisis, as with the deaths of Stannis, Shireen and Renly, there are no legal Baratheon heirs left until you start digging through distant cousins. The High Sparrow will step into this power vacuum, claiming the nobles have proven themselves unable and unworthy to rule. He might even have Tommen declare him heir. The commonfolk will rally to him and the nobility will be horrified, but they won't have any one candidate they can all rally around in response.
* What will screw up his plan? Daenerys. She will show up with her dragons and the nobility, assuming they can transfer their positions of power into a Targaryen restoration much the same way they did between the reigns of Aerys and Robert, will support her over a man whose life's ambition seems to be tearing them down. This will leave Dany in a bind, after having constructed her identity as a ruler as a liberator of the oppressed and being told most of her life the common people would support the Targaryen restoration, she will enter King's Landing with the common folk on someone else's side, and the treacherous nobles who betrayed her father her greatest source of support.
Why? Because Bran.
Most fans seem to believe Rickon will die during the Battle of the Bastards, and that the Starks will reclaim Winterfell. But if so, what then? As far as anyone knows, the Starks are left with no trueborn male heirs. Their options are Sansa, Ned Stark's last known legitimate child, but a woman and one who married into both the family they just took Winterfell back from and the much despised Lannisters, and Jon, a bastard whose greatest support comes from Wildlings, who much of the North (if not all Seven Kingdoms) despise. The chances of either of them being able to unite the North behind their authority seem low.
There's also the question of Jon's legitimacy: they might find a will from Robb Stark that legitimises him, but any will found three years after its author's death is going to be suspect and prone to accusations of forgery. Besides: the North is tired, exhausted itself in one great war that accomplished nothing but getting them taken over by {{CompleteMonster}}s. There's no way to claim Jon's legitimisation is, um, legitimate without claiming Robb Stark was in fact the rightful king, and hence restarting the campaign against the Iron Throne.
Half of the North will be all for this, and believing they'll need a strong Warrior King, uncompromised by his political alliances, will throw their support behind Jon. The other half, desperately wanting to avoid war, will throw their support behind Sansa. Sansa and Jon will be horrified by this and maintain they can rule together, but factions will develop nonetheless, almost pushing the North into civil war, with a few Bolton remnants screwing things up even more.
In the middle of this, Bran will get a vision showing him Rickon's death, and the state of the North afterwards. He'll be guilt-stricken, since it was he who willingly left Rickon and who told Rickon the Umbers would protect him, when they sold him over to Ramsay. Bran will see that the North has turned into a powderkeg, and decide the only way to avoid it boiling over into another war that could get one or both of his remaining siblings killed, is for [[RightfulKingReturns the rightful Lord to return]].
However, he's still marked by the Night King, and going back past the wall runs the risk of the White Walkers coming with him. It'll be one of those love-or-honour [[SadisticChoice choices]] that the Gods love throwing at the Starks. Either Bran won't be sure whether his mark applies just to the cave or all magic protecting men from the White Walkers, and decide to risk it, or he'll rationalise that they're coming anyway no matter what he does. Either way, a trueborn son of Ned Stark will return to Winterfell – [[FromBadToWorse with a massive army of ice zombies on his tail.]]
[[WMG: The High Sparrow's plan involves telling Tommen of his true heritage]]
Given everything he knows about Cersei, chances are the High Sparrow believes the rumours about her and Jaime, and will use them. He'll wait until he's more confident he has Tommen completely under his thumb, and then 'prove' (possibly with faked evidence, since I can't see what real evidence there would be pre-DNA) that he is in fact Jaime and Cersei's child. This will motivate Tommen to either abdicate (as his claim to the throne is illegitimate) or, more grimly and in line with Cersei's prophecy, [[DrivenToSuicide commit suicide]] (as in the eyes of the Faith he is an abomination). Either way, this will trigger a SuccessionCrisis, as with the deaths of Stannis, Shireen and Renly, there are no legal Baratheon heirs left until you start digging through distant cousins. The High Sparrow will step into this power vacuum, claiming the nobles have proven themselves unable and unworthy to rule. He might even have Tommen declare him heir. The commonfolk will rally to him and the nobility will be horrified, but they won't have any one candidate they can all rally around in response.
* What will screw up his plan? Daenerys. She will show up with her dragons and the nobility, assuming they can transfer their positions of power into a Targaryen restoration much the same way they did between the reigns of Aerys and Robert, will support her over a man whose life's ambition seems to be tearing them down. This will leave Dany in a bind, after having constructed her identity as a ruler as a liberator of the oppressed and being told most of her life the common people would support the Targaryen restoration, she will enter King's Landing with the common folk on someone else's side, and the treacherous nobles who betrayed her father her greatest source of support.
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[[WMG: Edmure will take on Wyman Manderly's role]]
Despite being much younger and lighter of build, they have certain similarities: namely, seeming useless and and [[spoiler: having seemingly sold out to the Freys]]. The trailer shows us the Freys all celebrating something, [[spoiler: presumably retaking Riverrun]], and they're likely to Edmure and possibly his men there, [[spoiler:so Walder and his habit of EvilGloating can throw his betrayal in their face]]. However, that's as good a place for [[spoiler:Delicious Frey Pie]] to take place as any. If he manages to kill enough Freys that also puts Edmure and Rolsin's baby in a better position for the Frey SuccessionCrisis that will inevitably follow Walder's death. This could double as the Blackfish being [[HesJustHiding Just Hiding]], taking Davos's role.
[[WMG: Cersei will confess in full to spite the Sparrows]]
In direct opposition to an above WMG, the Sparrow's power grab at this point depends almost entirely on the support of the crown, and in turn, Tommon's legitimacy. A couple of seasons ago, Cersei threatened Tywin that she would reveal the truth to everyone when she felt that he was going to take control and influence over her son away from her. When it becomes absolutely clear that the Sparrow has done just that, and that Cersei has no more pull over her son at all, she will make good on that threat and reveal to the gods and the world that Tommen is a bastard born of incest, and that he has no legitimate claim on the throne, because she would rather see herself and Tommon dead than have no power over him. It fits the theme of Cersei's story that she ultimately be responsible for her own undoing and the death of the one person she cares about more than anything. Also fits, in a very metaphorical sense, with the prophecy; if Tommon dies before her, she survives all of her children, and her own death is caused by her relationship with Jaime, giving a pay off to her death being caused by her younger brother.
[[WMG: If Cersei confesses in full, that's "ok", because the Sparrows know everything]]
(variant of the "The High Sparrow's plan involves telling Tommen of his true heritage" WMG and the "Cersei will confess in full to spite the Sparrows" WMG)
* The High Sparrow is trying to get Cersei to confess everything ''herself'' during her trial, very much like when he put her on the spot with Lancel, so the Faith can remove Tommen (and Margaery, that's why he was all creep on the "go get a baby" conversation, to mark her as completely spoiled), and one of these options:
** Put ''Gendry'' in the throne. And yes, sorry, I'm implying Gendry is not rowing anymore. But I think that his "king's blood" will come into play again, even if it's highly unlikely.
** Claim Daenerys as queen thanks to Varys, who has left Mereen to get support for their cause to move on to Westeros (and there's no way he doesn't know about the High Sparrow and ''absolutely everything else'' about the throne's precarious situation; easy to connect one with the other).
** Make the Seven Kingdoms a theocracy, because that's the endgame he has been playing for all along.
** Why would they do any of this? Tommen is already a perfect puppet ruler for the High Sparrow's purposes. Replacing him with some unknown party or trying to wipe out monarchy altogether would be incredibly counterproductive to the Sparrows' plans. It's in their best interests to avoid any questions of Tommen's legitimacy, since it's his authority that they use to handle all their affairs. If Tommen hadn't saved them earlier in Season 6, then they would have been wiped out by the Tyrell forces.
Despite being much younger and lighter of build, they have certain similarities: namely, seeming useless and and [[spoiler: having seemingly sold out to the Freys]]. The trailer shows us the Freys all celebrating something, [[spoiler: presumably retaking Riverrun]], and they're likely to Edmure and possibly his men there, [[spoiler:so Walder and his habit of EvilGloating can throw his betrayal in their face]]. However, that's as good a place for [[spoiler:Delicious Frey Pie]] to take place as any. If he manages to kill enough Freys that also puts Edmure and Rolsin's baby in a better position for the Frey SuccessionCrisis that will inevitably follow Walder's death. This could double as the Blackfish being [[HesJustHiding Just Hiding]], taking Davos's role.
[[WMG: Cersei will confess in full to spite the Sparrows]]
In direct opposition to an above WMG, the Sparrow's power grab at this point depends almost entirely on the support of the crown, and in turn, Tommon's legitimacy. A couple of seasons ago, Cersei threatened Tywin that she would reveal the truth to everyone when she felt that he was going to take control and influence over her son away from her. When it becomes absolutely clear that the Sparrow has done just that, and that Cersei has no more pull over her son at all, she will make good on that threat and reveal to the gods and the world that Tommen is a bastard born of incest, and that he has no legitimate claim on the throne, because she would rather see herself and Tommon dead than have no power over him. It fits the theme of Cersei's story that she ultimately be responsible for her own undoing and the death of the one person she cares about more than anything. Also fits, in a very metaphorical sense, with the prophecy; if Tommon dies before her, she survives all of her children, and her own death is caused by her relationship with Jaime, giving a pay off to her death being caused by her younger brother.
[[WMG: If Cersei confesses in full, that's "ok", because the Sparrows know everything]]
(variant of the "The High Sparrow's plan involves telling Tommen of his true heritage" WMG and the "Cersei will confess in full to spite the Sparrows" WMG)
* The High Sparrow is trying to get Cersei to confess everything ''herself'' during her trial, very much like when he put her on the spot with Lancel, so the Faith can remove Tommen (and Margaery, that's why he was all creep on the "go get a baby" conversation, to mark her as completely spoiled), and one of these options:
** Put ''Gendry'' in the throne. And yes, sorry, I'm implying Gendry is not rowing anymore. But I think that his "king's blood" will come into play again, even if it's highly unlikely.
** Claim Daenerys as queen thanks to Varys, who has left Mereen to get support for their cause to move on to Westeros (and there's no way he doesn't know about the High Sparrow and ''absolutely everything else'' about the throne's precarious situation; easy to connect one with the other).
** Make the Seven Kingdoms a theocracy, because that's the endgame he has been playing for all along.
** Why would they do any of this? Tommen is already a perfect puppet ruler for the High Sparrow's purposes. Replacing him with some unknown party or trying to wipe out monarchy altogether would be incredibly counterproductive to the Sparrows' plans. It's in their best interests to avoid any questions of Tommen's legitimacy, since it's his authority that they use to handle all their affairs. If Tommen hadn't saved them earlier in Season 6, then they would have been wiped out by the Tyrell forces.
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[[WMG: The rumor Qyburn investigated is in fact the location of the Mad King's stores of wildfire.]]
Judging from Bran's visions as well as the Mad King having hidden vast amounts of wildfire all over King's Landing to destroy it, it's very possible that Qyburn found at least one of these secret wildfire storehouses and Cersei intends to use it as her trump card against the High Sparrow.
* Worth noting that in the same episode, Jaime mentions to Edmure that Cersei would burn down a city to protect her chidlren. Sounds like foreshadowing to me.
* Didn't Cersei already knew about the wildfire cache back in Season 2? Tyrion knew about it from Lancel who is sleeping with Cersei back then and he hijacked that plan so he can use it against Stannis. Unless, Qyburn found out that there's some extra wildfire...
** No. Cersei did not know about the Mad King's stashes. She knew that wilfire exists and that the Guild of Pyromancers was ready and willing to manufacture it for her. All the wildfire shown and used in Season 2 was commissioned by Cersei and manufactured recently. The Mad King's stashes are a completely different matter.
* Further foreshadowed in "Battle of the Bastards", where Tyrion recounts how Jaime had told him how the Mad King had secretly hidden huge stocks of Wildfire under every major road and landmark in King's Landing, including the Red Keep and the Great Sept of Baelor.
[[WMG: The Northern houses are reluctant to support Sansa because of [[spoiler: the Littlefinger debt scheme]]]]
The theory goes that [[spoiler: Littlefinger has put the realm in debt so he can extend credit to various houses scattered across Westeros]]. He's been calling in every favour gained this way to get the lords to drop their support for Sansa. Why? Because [[spoiler: Baelish wants to be her knight in shining armour riding to her rescue]] in the Battle of the Bastards, and this is how [[spoiler:he denies her the ability to call him out for all his bullshit and show her she needs him still]]. From day one, [[spoiler:Baelish has made it his top priority to be indispensible and always needed by his allies, even with his scheming reputation]]. [[MagnificentBastard And he's done it again]].
Judging from Bran's visions as well as the Mad King having hidden vast amounts of wildfire all over King's Landing to destroy it, it's very possible that Qyburn found at least one of these secret wildfire storehouses and Cersei intends to use it as her trump card against the High Sparrow.
* Worth noting that in the same episode, Jaime mentions to Edmure that Cersei would burn down a city to protect her chidlren. Sounds like foreshadowing to me.
* Didn't Cersei already knew about the wildfire cache back in Season 2? Tyrion knew about it from Lancel who is sleeping with Cersei back then and he hijacked that plan so he can use it against Stannis. Unless, Qyburn found out that there's some extra wildfire...
** No. Cersei did not know about the Mad King's stashes. She knew that wilfire exists and that the Guild of Pyromancers was ready and willing to manufacture it for her. All the wildfire shown and used in Season 2 was commissioned by Cersei and manufactured recently. The Mad King's stashes are a completely different matter.
* Further foreshadowed in "Battle of the Bastards", where Tyrion recounts how Jaime had told him how the Mad King had secretly hidden huge stocks of Wildfire under every major road and landmark in King's Landing, including the Red Keep and the Great Sept of Baelor.
[[WMG: The Northern houses are reluctant to support Sansa because of [[spoiler: the Littlefinger debt scheme]]]]
The theory goes that [[spoiler: Littlefinger has put the realm in debt so he can extend credit to various houses scattered across Westeros]]. He's been calling in every favour gained this way to get the lords to drop their support for Sansa. Why? Because [[spoiler: Baelish wants to be her knight in shining armour riding to her rescue]] in the Battle of the Bastards, and this is how [[spoiler:he denies her the ability to call him out for all his bullshit and show her she needs him still]]. From day one, [[spoiler:Baelish has made it his top priority to be indispensible and always needed by his allies, even with his scheming reputation]]. [[MagnificentBastard And he's done it again]].
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[[WMG: The fates of the Northern houses in the wake of the Battle of the Bastards]]
* House Hornwood, bordering House Bolton, get roughly half Bolton lands for their loyal service. (And, as a MythologyGag to the fact that in the books, Ramsay forcibly married Donella Hornwood, then locked her in a tower where she starved to death.)
* House Mazin, being [[CanonForeigner unique to the show]] and lacking an established location get the other half.
* House Mormont, being situated on an Island on the other side of the North, can't be granted any lands, though Glovers lands are closest to them. The Glovers might be demoted to their vassals.
* House Bolton's seat of the Dreadfort is torn down, in accordanse with Sansa's desire to wipe away all signs of them.
* Lord Karstark executed, his officers made to take the black.
* Umber officers made to take the black.
* Both Umbers and Karstarks allowed to retain their lands and titles, on condition that they renew fealty to Winterfell and send one of their own to stay at Winterfell.
* As a nod to the Frey Pie plot in the books, House Manderley had machinations in the works that were rendered moot by House Stark reclaiming Winterfell and lordship of the North. As a sign of their secretly unbroken fealty, they hand over some captured Freys who were captured as part of the plot by carefully skirting the boundaries of [[SacredHospitality Guest Right]] propriety as per the books.
[[WMG: Jon will found a noble house]]
He will be granted lands and take in the Wildings as his vassals. In a MythologyGag, he will adopt the Umbers' book sigil, a roaring giant, for his own, in memory of Wun Wun.
[[WMG: Loras will be executed, kill himself, or be otherwise PutOnABus in the season finale.]]
* In the books, he suffers a severe wound in battle that all but removes him from the narrative as anything more than an afterthought - which is what's more or less happened to him in Season 6. Add to that the fact that Finn Jones has been cast as the lead in Marvel's Iron Fist, and you've got a recipe for DeathByAdaptation.
[[WMG: The concession that Sansa made for the Vale's aid was to agree to marry Littlefinger.]]
* The season finale shows the two having a conversation under what appears to be the same heart tree where she married Ramsay. And Sansa knew these would likely be Littlefinger's terms in the beginning of the season, which is why she initially refused. Littlefinger would then essentially have the title of Lord Protectorship in both the Vale and the North as well as a strong claim to the title Lord Paramount of the Riverlands (he'd likely have to fight the Freys and[=/=]or Tullys for this one, though). If he could secure an alliance with a leaderless Dorne - knowing him, he was doing just that in the interim between his two appearances - he'd basically have control of half of Westeros.
* House Hornwood, bordering House Bolton, get roughly half Bolton lands for their loyal service. (And, as a MythologyGag to the fact that in the books, Ramsay forcibly married Donella Hornwood, then locked her in a tower where she starved to death.)
* House Mazin, being [[CanonForeigner unique to the show]] and lacking an established location get the other half.
* House Mormont, being situated on an Island on the other side of the North, can't be granted any lands, though Glovers lands are closest to them. The Glovers might be demoted to their vassals.
* House Bolton's seat of the Dreadfort is torn down, in accordanse with Sansa's desire to wipe away all signs of them.
* Lord Karstark executed, his officers made to take the black.
* Umber officers made to take the black.
* Both Umbers and Karstarks allowed to retain their lands and titles, on condition that they renew fealty to Winterfell and send one of their own to stay at Winterfell.
* As a nod to the Frey Pie plot in the books, House Manderley had machinations in the works that were rendered moot by House Stark reclaiming Winterfell and lordship of the North. As a sign of their secretly unbroken fealty, they hand over some captured Freys who were captured as part of the plot by carefully skirting the boundaries of [[SacredHospitality Guest Right]] propriety as per the books.
[[WMG: Jon will found a noble house]]
He will be granted lands and take in the Wildings as his vassals. In a MythologyGag, he will adopt the Umbers' book sigil, a roaring giant, for his own, in memory of Wun Wun.
[[WMG: Loras will be executed, kill himself, or be otherwise PutOnABus in the season finale.]]
* In the books, he suffers a severe wound in battle that all but removes him from the narrative as anything more than an afterthought - which is what's more or less happened to him in Season 6. Add to that the fact that Finn Jones has been cast as the lead in Marvel's Iron Fist, and you've got a recipe for DeathByAdaptation.
[[WMG: The concession that Sansa made for the Vale's aid was to agree to marry Littlefinger.]]
* The season finale shows the two having a conversation under what appears to be the same heart tree where she married Ramsay. And Sansa knew these would likely be Littlefinger's terms in the beginning of the season, which is why she initially refused. Littlefinger would then essentially have the title of Lord Protectorship in both the Vale and the North as well as a strong claim to the title Lord Paramount of the Riverlands (he'd likely have to fight the Freys and[=/=]or Tullys for this one, though). If he could secure an alliance with a leaderless Dorne - knowing him, he was doing just that in the interim between his two appearances - he'd basically have control of half of Westeros.
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* As further supporting evidence for this, the books mention Maggy the Frog's prophecy that Cersei will be killed by the ''valonqar'' (High Valyrian for ''little brother''), and that she thinks this is Tyrion (I can't remember if the show mentions this as well). Given GRRM's fondness for {{Prophecy Twist}}s, Jaime is ''by far'' the most credible candidate for killing her, especially since every single one of Maggy's prophecies have come true this far.
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[[WMG: In Season 7, the three Sand Snakes will attempt to tame Dany's three dragons]]
Since those three are very impatient, they will try to tame the dragons so they can attack King's Landing. Similar to Quentyn Martell's poor approach in the books, this went bad and those three ended up barbecued by Drogon or Rhaegal (he's the smart one) or all three of them.
Since those three are very impatient, they will try to tame the dragons so they can attack King's Landing. Similar to Quentyn Martell's poor approach in the books, this went bad and those three ended up barbecued by Drogon or Rhaegal (he's the smart one) or all three of them.
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[[WMG: Cersei, ala Joffrey, will only last an episode or two into Season 7.]]
* She's put herself in a rather untenable situation, to where she's got everyone except the Crownlands itself having effectively seceded from the Seven Kingdoms, and a ''massive'' Essos[=/=]Southern Westeros coalition led by a Targaryen and three dragons coming for King's Landing [[note]]Most of the Dothraki khalasar ''and'' their horses, ships from the Iron Islands, Essos, and Dorne, a good portion of the Unsullied, and in all likelihood ground forces from Dorne and the Reach, which were the two regions more or less untouched by the War of Five Kings[[/note]]. Her strongest allies are Qyburn, a MadScientist that's trying to be Hand, Grand Maester, and Master of Whispers at once and is probably out of his depth; Jaime, who isn't the fighter he once was and whom Cersei (to her detriment) probably wouldn't be willing to risk; and the Mountain, who is strong as hell but certainly not invincible as Oberyn Martell's already proven.
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[[WMG: Jamie will kill Cersei.]]
Season 6 put a lot of emphasis on the fact that Jamie will do anything for Cersei but stressed at the same time that he wanted to be an honorable person. As of the season 6 finale, Cersei has gone completely mad - burning down the city just as the Mad King once tried to do before Jamie killed him to save King's Landing. He will have to do the same with his sister. The long lingering shot of the two of them as she is crowned foreshadows the inevitable confrontation.
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* Or it's symbolic of her ''embracing both'' her heritage and the environment that gave her the backbone she has now. She is a dragon (Targaryen), but the horse (Dothraki) is inside her, giving her strength.
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* As a nod to the Frey Pie plot in the books, House Manderley had machinations in the works that were rendered moot by House Stark reclaiming Winterfell and lordship of the North. As a sign of their secretly unbroken fealty, they hand over some captured Freys who were captured in a plot carefully skirting the boundaries of [[SacredHospitality Guest Right]] propriety as per the books.
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[[WMG: Eventually, Jon and Sansa will get married.]]
It would make sense, if only Jon's parentage is publically revealed making them cousins.
With Rickon's death and Bran's disappearance (and don't forget his disability) Sansa is the eldest daughter and thus the heir.
Jon is a Targaryen, nephew of Daenerys(who will eventually take back Westeros), but also a Stark on his mother's side. The two of them will agree that get married is a the best chance they have to restore House Stark and keep Winterfell, which they already have conquered.
* And of course, in that waste land that is Sansa's love life, probably Jon is the best husband she could find.
It would make sense, if only Jon's parentage is publically revealed making them cousins.
With Rickon's death and Bran's disappearance (and don't forget his disability) Sansa is the eldest daughter and thus the heir.
Jon is a Targaryen, nephew of Daenerys(who will eventually take back Westeros), but also a Stark on his mother's side. The two of them will agree that get married is a the best chance they have to restore House Stark and keep Winterfell, which they already have conquered.
* And of course, in that waste land that is Sansa's love life, probably Jon is the best husband she could find.
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* The season finale shows the two having a conversation under what appears to be the same heart tree where she married Ramsay. And Sansa knew these would likely be Littlefinger's terms in the beginning of the season, which is why she initially refused. Littlefinger would then essentially have the title of Lord Protectorship in both the Vale and the North as well as a strong claim to the title Lord Paramount of the Riverlands (he'd likely have to fight the Freys and[=/=]or Tullys for this one, though). If he could secure an alliance with a leaderless Dorne - knowing him, he was doing just that in the interim between his two appearances - he'd essentially have control of half of Westeros.
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* The season finale shows the two having a conversation under what appears to be the same heart tree where she married Ramsay. And Sansa knew these would likely be Littlefinger's terms in the beginning of the season, which is why she initially refused. Littlefinger would then essentially have the title of Lord Protectorship in both the Vale and the North as well as a strong claim to the title Lord Paramount of the Riverlands (he'd likely have to fight the Freys and[=/=]or Tullys for this one, though). If he could secure an alliance with a leaderless Dorne - knowing him, he was doing just that in the interim between his two appearances - he'd essentially basically have control of half of Westeros.
Westeros.
[[WMG: Alternate to the above - Littlefinger spent the majority of his absence from Season 6 attempting to court Ellaria Sand. For that matter, maybe Ellaria's coup and the resulting murders were orchestrated by Littlefinger himself.]]
* Frankly, the two seem perfect for each other - or, at least, Ellaria seems like the perfect tool for Littlefinger and a guy she might consider falling for. And after the reveal that Littlefinger basically triggered GoT's ''whole damn plotline,'' can you really put anything past the guy?
[[WMG: Alternate to the above - Littlefinger spent the majority of his absence from Season 6 attempting to court Ellaria Sand. For that matter, maybe Ellaria's coup and the resulting murders were orchestrated by Littlefinger himself.]]
* Frankly, the two seem perfect for each other - or, at least, Ellaria seems like the perfect tool for Littlefinger and a guy she might consider falling for. And after the reveal that Littlefinger basically triggered GoT's ''whole damn plotline,'' can you really put anything past the guy?
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* In the books, he suffers a severe wound in battle that all but removes him from the narrative as anything more than an afterthought - which is what's more or less happened to him in Season 6. Add to that the fact that Finn Jones has been cast in Marvel's Iron Fist, and you've got a recipe for DeathByAdaptation.
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* In the books, he suffers a severe wound in battle that all but removes him from the narrative as anything more than an afterthought - which is what's more or less happened to him in Season 6. Add to that the fact that Finn Jones has been cast as the lead in Marvel's Iron Fist, and you've got a recipe for DeathByAdaptation.
DeathByAdaptation.
[[WMG: The concession that Sansa made for the Vale's aid was to agree to marry Littlefinger.]]
* The season finale shows the two having a conversation under what appears to be the same heart tree where she married Ramsay. And Sansa knew these would likely be Littlefinger's terms in the beginning of the season, which is why she initially refused. Littlefinger would then essentially have the title of Lord Protectorship in both the Vale and the North as well as a strong claim to the title Lord Paramount of the Riverlands (he'd likely have to fight the Freys and[=/=]or Tullys for this one, though). If he could secure an alliance with a leaderless Dorne - knowing him, he was doing just that in the interim between his two appearances - he'd essentially have control of half of Westeros.
[[WMG: The concession that Sansa made for the Vale's aid was to agree to marry Littlefinger.]]
* The season finale shows the two having a conversation under what appears to be the same heart tree where she married Ramsay. And Sansa knew these would likely be Littlefinger's terms in the beginning of the season, which is why she initially refused. Littlefinger would then essentially have the title of Lord Protectorship in both the Vale and the North as well as a strong claim to the title Lord Paramount of the Riverlands (he'd likely have to fight the Freys and[=/=]or Tullys for this one, though). If he could secure an alliance with a leaderless Dorne - knowing him, he was doing just that in the interim between his two appearances - he'd essentially have control of half of Westeros.
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[[WMG: Loras will be executed, kill himself, or be otherwise PutOnABus in the season finale.]]
* In the books, he suffers a severe wound in battle that all but removes him from the narrative as anything more than an afterthought - which is what's more or less happened to him in Season 6. Add to that the fact that Finn Jones has been cast in Marvel's Iron Fist, and you've got a recipe for DeathByAdaptation.
* In the books, he suffers a severe wound in battle that all but removes him from the narrative as anything more than an afterthought - which is what's more or less happened to him in Season 6. Add to that the fact that Finn Jones has been cast in Marvel's Iron Fist, and you've got a recipe for DeathByAdaptation.
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* House Hornwood, bordering House Bolton, get roughly half Bolton lands for their loyal service. (And, as a MythologyGag to the fact that in the books, Ramsay forcibly married Donella Hornwood, then locked her in a tower where she starved to death.)
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[[WMG: Drogon didn't burn that child in Season 4, the Sons of the Harpy did.]]
* They burnt the child because they knew suspicion would fall on Daenarys' dragons, forcing her to lock them up, thereby driving a wedge between Daenarys and her dragons so that they would be less trusting of her and willing to aid her in battle against the Sons of the Harpy.
* That scene where Drogon killed that goat is an obvious RedHerring since we see him in action as "the black shadow" and burning that goat. But even there, Drogon deliberately flies away from that child focusing only on the goat. It's clear there that Daenerys trained him well to leave humans unless she commands it. That burnt skeleton could either be faked or from an already dead child, burnt in the pyre. As to who did that?
* Other potential suspects: Hizdahr, the Meereenese ruling party or probably Tywin Lannister who sends letters to Meereen, we see him "out" Jorah's former treachery to Dany, he's not beyond killing children, and it is the kind of manipulative trick he'd pull to force Dany to imprison her own dragons.
[[WMG: The series finale will air in 2017.]]
The series finale is mentioned in the ''Series/ParksAndRecreation'' episode "Leslie and Ron," which takes place 2017.
[[WMG: The Targaryen Olenna had originally been engaged to was Maester Aemon]]
* Considering how striking she must have been when she was young and how Maester Aemon still seems to have feelings for her, it would be a very sad WhatCouldHaveBeen, especially considering that their union might have actually produced a more stable, less CrapsackWorld with a sane king and a competent and intelligent queen.
** Maester Aemon is a hundred years old(in the books and his actor is in his 90s) while Olenna is a good twenty-twenty five years younger. Of course given the age difference its possible. Moreover, Olenna is quite dismissive of that Targaryen Prince and mocking. Given that Aemon's brother Aegon V, "Egg" became the last good Targaryen ruler and in the lore, he married for love but forbade his children from doing so, and the fact that Olenna is a contemporary of Tywin, at least in the show(where he's 67), its likely that Prince was Aerys II, which means that Olenna dodged a real bullet just as she ensured Margaery did with Joffrey.
** It's probably not Aemon. In ''Literature/TheWorldOfIceAndFire'', its revealed that Olenna Redwyne was engaged to Daeron Targaryen, son of Aegon V (a.k.a Egg). That guy backed out of the marriage because he was gay...which makes Margaery a HistoryRepeats.
[[WMG: The Martells in Season Five]]
* The Martells and the Golden Company subplots from Books 4 and 5 will be streamlined into a single whole. Doran Martell will be introduced as a secret Chessmaster who has been Varys' sponsor and financial backer(he is stated to be very rich) in setting up the Targaryen Restoration. It will be stated that Illyrio Mopatis was one of his agents, that he had planned the Khal Drogo/Dany wedding. It will be a simple and time efficient way to introduce the new character, setting and subplot. Season 4 will open with Tyrion and Varys' ship landing at Sunspear and Tyrion meeting Doran who tells him to take his son Trystane and/or Quentyn with him to Essos to bring back "our heart's desire: Vengeance, Justice, Fire and Blood". It also gives Tyrion a palpable goal, a new dynasty change will give him a pardon for his crimes and Casterly Rock and a fresh start and Doran will tell Tyrion that he owes Oberyn who died for him.
** Oberyn Martell is stated to have spent a lot of time in the East, probably on Doran's orders to establish a support base for the exiled Targaryens. In the books he worked with the Second Sons, here he worked with the Golden Company. Doran probably kept his cards close and presumably did not tell him about Varys being his man on the inside but Varys hints quite slyly to Oberyn about their connection in their conversation in the Iron Throne.
** With Arianne presumably AdaptedOut, it is likely that Myrcella Baratheon will become a kind of quasi-replacement with Doran and the Sand Snakes trying to manipulate her to taking the crown in a PlayingBothSides gambit.
[[WMG: The Golden Company in Season Five]]
* Bittersteel's Boys have been name-dropped twice in Season 4, with Jorah being a former mercenary for them and Davos recommending hiring them to Stannis. Given the whole Fake Aegon and Jon Connington thing, which might be hard to integrate in Game of Thrones, especially since it isn't backstory-crazy, their role and presence will likely be very different to how it is in the books.
** In Scenario One, Fake Aegon and Jon Connington are AdaptedOut and the Golden Company are combined with the Windblown and the Second Sons. The plan is A) Bring Back Daenerys to Westeros and if that doesn't work, B) Convince the Golden Company to take Westeros on behalf of Myrcella Baratheon, put brother against sister. It will simplify and make the whole story still work.
** In Scenario Two, Tyrion and Varys travels with the mercenaries to Braavos(instead of Pentos since it saves time and locations) and meets Aegon VI and Jon Connington in "The House with the Red Door"(a cool MythologyGag for fans) where Tyrion tells Aegon to go to Westeros while he heads to Meereen.
** In Scenario Three, The Golden Company are independent and unaffiliated. They are the personal PMC company on staff to the Iron Bank of Braavos who are built up as the next BiggerBad in Season Four. After Stannis' victory at the Wall and Tywin's death, the Golden Company will be assigned to protect Stannis' territory in Storm's End and the Stormlands mirroring the action in the books. The Martells and Tyrion and Varys will try and sway the Golden Company to their side away from Stannis and the Crown but Jorah who's in Braavos, kidnaps Tyrion putting a SpannerInTheWorks.
[[WMG: Rattleshirt will replace Tormund and the Weeper]]
...as [[spoiler: the wildling leading the remaining part of the army that is not captured or surrendering right after Stannis defeats Mance.]] Tormund, on the other hand, will replace Val as the wildling sent to treat with him, accounting for the fact that in show continuity Tormund is south of the Wall rather than north.
** Or this subplot could be trimmed down simply to Tormund being sent north to treat with the army on behalf of the captured Mance.
However, Rattleshirt [[spoiler: will refuse Tormund's terms, and be captured in a second battle later. This will earn him a visit to the pyre, sparing us the ADWD Rattleshirt/Mance glamor switcheroo nonsense.]]
** Casting sheets say that Varamyr Sixskins is being cast for season 5, and he could easily replace the Weeper or Rattleshirt.
[[WMG: Tywin and [[spoiler:Shae]]]]
Wasn't something they were doing on a regular basis, but [[HookersAndBlow a one-time thing]]. Tywin was driven to hire her services after that conversation with Cersei made his world come crashing down.
[[WMG: [[spoiler: Lady Stoneheart]] will appear in the first or last scene of Season 5's premiere.]]
Despite a lot of [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire book]] fans crying foul about her not appearing in the Season 4 finale, it would be a good way to introduce Season 5's overall atmosphere to show that, yes, things are going to get much, much, '''much''' darker.
** There's also the fact that much of the final part of Book 3 is still not put on screen, the events at the Wall for instance, the Lord Commander's election, Stannis and Jon meeting man to man and offering him Winterfell. It wasn't just Lady Stoneheart that was left out. Those parts are crucial to any future development of Jon Snow's storyline. And Lady Stoneheart is crucial to Brienne and Jaime's storyline. If they were to Adapt her out they would never introduce Beric Dondarrion to begin with or show the Brotherhood. Their storyline becomes more important in ''Literature/AFeastForCrows'' where Jaime visits the post-war Riverlands. There's already plenty of foreshadowing with Brienne getting tired of Podrick's company and complaining about him, the fact that she is already facing consequences for carrying a Lannister sword on travel and is further saddened with a Stark girl telling her she doesn't trust her.
** The real reasons why she was missing was as Alex Graves said, the producers did not feel it right to introduce her in an out-of-context Wham scene in the finale, where she randomly hangs Freys who are otherwise not seen throughout the season. In the books it worked because it took place in one book, but in a single season where a character suddenly shows up like a GiantSpaceFleaOutOfNowhere hanging some non-entity Frey would come off as cheap. That said, if she's not in next season, then they really won't bring her back.
[[WMG: Lady Merryweather won't be AdaptedOut]]
The most important characteristic of Cersei's arc in book 4 is the contrast between how clever she thinks she is (and how smug she is about it) and how the consequences of her schemes turn out. Since we can't access her internal monologues on TV, she needs some (seemingly) sycophantic character to act as her sounding board.
* Plus the show has steadfastly refused to not include as many sex scenes as humanly possible, so there's no way in hell they wont have [[spoiler: Cersei's lesbian sex scene with Lady Merryweather]] adapted in some way. (Though Lena Headey has said explicitly she's saving any nudity for a particular scene from ADWD...
[[WMG: Obara Sand will fight....]]
As part of the recent casting sheets publication, it has been revealed that Obara Sand will have a fight scene with a series regular that never meets her in the books. Given there are scenes being shot in Dorne it is almost certainly gonna take place in Dorne itself, and given the need to introduce her as a badass, said character will need to be a capable fighter themselves. Thus let us begin our speculation.
* Bronn: Maybe he and Lolys (who is also scheduled to be cast) run away to Dorne in order to escape a wrathful Cersei and end up embroiled in the politics there.
* Jorah: Now he is banished and wandering the world, maybe he ends up in Dorne for a time before or during [[spoiler: his joining up with Tyrion]].
* Yara: The Ironborn are raiding everywhere they can, and given the alterations made to the Ironborn plotline it isn't unfathomable she might try to raid Dorne.
** I would count Yara out, on the grounds that she's already been thoroughly humiliated once. She's still supposed to be a formidable warrior, but if she's bested by both Ramsay and Obara, it would be hard for anyone, in or out of universe, to take her seriously again.
* Daario: Is also out of Meereen and known for wanting to take a proactive stance with regards to potential enemies of Dany.
* Loras: erm....maybe he gets sent to Dorne by Cersei to make sure Myrcella is protected.
However if the story is modified to have her in Kings Landing (i.e. to bring back her father's body) then that opens up the possibility of...
* Jaime: Given her likely psychotic hatred of the Lannisters, he seems an obvious target and it could be a reversal of his fight scene with Ned in season 1.
* Ser Meryn Trant: Because everyone wants to see this guy get repeatedly stabbed.
** He could easily be sent to Dorne as a guard for Myrcella if the role of Arys Oakheart is cut, too. (Same with Loras should he join the Kingsguard in season 5)
* Gendry: It would give him a chance to make a cameo....okay, I'm reaching with this one.
* Maybe she will take over for Quentyn Martell and marches with Tyrion and Co. to Essos to find the Dragon Queen, along the way she could meet say, Jorah Mormont, Ser Barristan, Daario, Grey Worm and finally decide to [[spoiler:free the dragons and get roasted]].
[[WMG: Either Grey Worm or Missandei is going to die]]
There's been a lot of emphasis on their romance, which is not present in the books. While it's very sweet, the show rarely does sweet just for the sake of it. They're making the characters sympathetic before one of them dies.
* Plus, there are a number of characters who are not present in the show that die in the books. Either Grey Worm or Missanei's death will replace one of theirs.
[[WMG: In the long run, the Starks are actually in a better position than the other houses.]]
Although they're decimated and scattered across the Westeros, its not completely out of the question for them to be able to make a comeback. Compare with the other major houses:
* Lannisters: As of Season 4 they're going broke, Tywin isn't exactly getting any younger, his eldest son can't legally inherit his titles, he refuses to name his only other son as his heir ([[spoiler: and given Tyrion's arrest, its quite unlikely Tywin will ever change his mind]][[spoiler: also Tywin is dead]]), and Cersei isn't exactly the best candidate to bring the house back to its former glory.
* Tyrells: Their only male heir is gay and less likely to father any children, but of course averted if Loras decides to take one for the team.
* Baratheon: Stannis' wife is unable to give him any sons, and his only daughter is an IllGirl.
* Targaryen: Daenerys doesn't currently have any heirs, and in the books its implied that she's infertile.
* Bolton: Although Ramsay was legitimized as the heir to House Bolton, he's much more impulsive than his father and probably wouldn't be much better at ruling than Joffrey was. Also, if the rest of the North finds out that Bran and Rickon are still alive their hold over the North will significantly weaken.
* Frey: They have plenty of heirs, but in Season 4 its made clear that they're terrible at ruling and very unpopular with the smallfolk. Thanks to the Red Wedding, they're most likely the most hated house in Westeros for violating SacredHospitality.
On the other hand, the Starks still have two male heirs in the line of succession, with at least Rickon being capable of fathering another heir later on down the road. Additionally, the Starks were very much well liked by their allies right up until their downfall, all of whom would happily aid any of the surviving Stark children.
[[WMG: Ghost was captured accidentally, and Karl keeps him around to fuck with Rast's head]]
Summer fell in a trap. It only makes sense that Ghost fell in another, or even the same one, in the first place.
Who built that trap? Craster. He lives in the asscrack of the world and needs every pelt and bit of meat he can get his hands on, moreso in winter. It also provides defense against predators (like direwolves) or even other wildlings that might smell his tasty pork getting fried and want to raid his place. He's only one man and his wives don't seem battle trained after all.
Which leads us to the question of why, once Ghost fell on a trap laid by Craster that the mutineers probably didn't even know existed, they decided to *not* kill him and make him a nice cover. It's because Rast hates Ghost, going back to that incident in Season 1, and Karl wants to fuck with Rast because he is a bully. So Karl makes Rast care for Ghost, even if it costs him food, because he finds it amusing.
* It's unlikely this will ever be confirmed due to the whole...dead mutineers thing.
[[WMG: Grey Worm and Missandei will have a very sweet romance on the side which will end in tragedy]]
They will dance around each other in a WillTheyOrWontThey manner since she's Dany's personal servant and he's a eunuch. [[ShipperOnDeck Dany and a few others will ship them]]. Then they'll spend one night together, just holding each other. And then [[spoiler: Grey Worm will take Stalwart Shield's place as the Unsullied who was murdered by the Sons of the Harpy]] and leave Missandei heartbroken.
[[WMG: Loras and Cersei will be married.]]
[[spoiler:Although this will be a ''huge'' departure from the books,]] the writers may choose to go in this direction if they decide to keep Loras [[spoiler:out of the Kingsguard]] due to him being the sole male heir to Highgarden. After Margaery [[spoiler:marries Tommen]], there is no valid reason for Loras to stay in King's Landing [[spoiler:if he never dons the white cloak]]. Since Mace Tyrell will presumably [[spoiler:serve as Master of Ships on the Small Council]], Loras would be expected to return to Highgarden and rule in his stead. However, if Loras marries Cersei (however unwillingly), he will then become the husband of the Queen Regent and [[spoiler:more importantly, the ''stepfather'' of King Tommen]]. For dramatic purposes, the showrunners may prefer to heighten the Lannister-Tyrell dynamic by giving Loras a more powerful position than he had in the novels (his TV character has already been "promoted" to heir to Highgarden, after all). As [[spoiler:Tommen's stepfather]], Loras would exert greater authority than his book counterpart when [[spoiler:he and Margaery spend time with the young King in an attempt to limit Cersei's toxic influence on Tommen]]. Sure, Cersei is the Queen Regent, and will still retain her role in the political side of things, but in terms of how their marriage is run [[spoiler:and how Tommen is raised]], Loras as her husband would--at least in theory--trump her. (A similar real-life example--with a ruling queen regnant instead of a temporary queen regent--is Queen Elizabeth II and her husband Prince Philip. She is completely independent when performing her royal duties, but he is the dominant partner in their marriage.)
* There may be a hint in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM3vZxrFo24 this featurette]], where Roger Ashton-Griffiths says of his character, "I'm interested in the welfare of my children, by which I mean I want them to sit on the Iron Throne." Notice that the actor specifically uses the word "children," so unlike book!Mace, the TV version may want Loras to become part of the royal family in addition to Margaery. In Loras' case, the best Mace can hope for is for his son to be married to the Queen Regent, as Myrcella has already been betrothed to a Martell.
** There is also Jaime's comment in "The Lion and the Rose" where he mentions that both Tywin and Mace are very keen to see Cersei and Loras wed.
[[WMG: Loras will never join [[spoiler:Joffrey's or Tommen's Kingsguard.]]]]
He is the only son of Mace Tyrell on the show, so it's extremely doubtful that he would purposely endanger the ''survival'' of his House by [[spoiler:donning the white cloak]]. As much as he hates being betrothed to Cersei, it's difficult to imagine the dutiful Knight of Flowers placing his own selfish desire to escape a miserable marriage above his family's long-term future. According to GRRM, [[http://winteriscoming.net/2013/10/grrm-talks-season-4-beyond/ Willas and Garlan Tyrell will have important parts to play in future novels]]. TV!Loras is already a CompositeCharacter of his AdaptedOut brothers, so it's reasonable to assume that he will take over their roles at a later date. From the point of the view of the writers, it's better to keep Loras out of the [[spoiler:order]] so that he is free to leave King's Landing when the story requires him to [[spoiler:(e.g. like defending the Reach from the Ironborn)]].
[[WMG: Dagmer Cleftjaw is still alive.]]
Ramsay claimed that [[spoiler: he flayed all the Ironborn alive]] at Winterfel, but Dagmer might have been too smart for that. Book!Dagmer wouldn't have betrayed the Greyjoys in the first place, so maybe, after [[spoiler: handing Theon over to Ramsay]] in order to save his own ass, he joined Yara and her men in an effort to redeem himself.
[[WMG: Balerion is still alive]]
Unless of course he is reincarnated as Drogon, which is suggested in the books.
* I believe in the books it was strongly suggested that the dragon skull Arya hides in in season 1 while Varys and Ilyrio are plotting belonged to Balerion, but I don't know if it's stated explicitly.
[[WMG: The Lord of Light and The Drowned God both exist.]]
They are both powerful spirits that people have chosen to worship as gods. The Lord of Light dwells in the sky and and the Drowned God in the sea, only the followers of the Lord of Light call the Drowned God the Great Other and the Ironborn call the Lord of Light the Storm God. I know there is no evidence whatsoever to support this, but it has at least been implied that the Lord of Light is real and it would be awesome if these two beings both exist and are at war.
[[WMG: The Great Other will finally make an appearance near the end.]]
And he'll turn out to be [[IncrediblyLamePun a pretty cool guy.]] But in all seriousness he will be surprisingly friendly and non-malicious if disinterested in normal mortal affairs. Mostly he just cares about getting R'hllor to [[IncrediblyLamePun chill out a bit.]] Also his and R'hllor's dialogue is going to be [[HurricaneOfPuns Ice and Fire puns.]] Also FoeYay.
[[WMG: Ramsay Snow is the Author Avatar of George R. R. Martin, not Sam Tarly as is commonly believed]]
Ramsay chains up a character and continually tortures him in creative ways. He even says: "If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention." George R. R. Martin figuratively tortures his characters, in some cases to death, and by extension tortures his readers until they cry 'Stop!' but like Theon, they can't escape the torture.
[[WMG: Danerys Targaryen and Jon Snow will join forces.]]
It would make sense "a song of Fire (Targaryens) and Ice (Starks)." Danerys will have her dragons, and Jon will have an army of wildlings and others. Between the two of them they will take the Iron Throne. They both seem to be the "main" characters. They might rule together or Jon will bow to her and let her be queen. (Starks only bowed to dragons).
[[WMG: [[AxCrazy Ramsay]] is planning to transform "Reek" into [[FreudianExcuse his mother]]]]
Castration is only the beginning. Next will be the [[NightmareFuel Westerosi version]] of a [[MedicalHorror boob job]].
* The scene in the books where Reek is telling [[spoiler:Roose Bolton]] that he has "wounds" under his clothes will certainly have a new [[NightmareFuel horrifying meaning]]. A forced sex change with medieval tools...more BrainBleach, please.
** Biggest [[spoiler: Fake!Arya]] crackpot theory: She will be Trans!Reek. Reek knows Winterfell. Ramsay always wants Reek by his side. Reek's demeanor is so different from Theon that no one will recognize him in female clothing, even less so in Winterfell where everyone who knew him there was killed or taken in chains to the Dreadfort by Ramsay. [[spoiler: Instead of saving Fake!Arya, Reek will save himself when Ramsay wants to get intimate.]] Roose and Walda's children, if they have any, will be passed for Ramsay's.
[[WMG: Yara Greyjoy will do to Ramsay what he did to Theon.]]
I have since discovered that her retaliation was not in the books, making this unlikely, but not necessarily impossible.
[[WMG: Jon Snow will play a key role in the Starks winning the war.]]
In the very first episode when the wolf cubs were found, Robb and Bran tried to protect them while Theon seemed willing to kill them. Jon Snow solved the problem. [[spoiler: This could be some major foreshadowing of future events.]]
[[WMG: Tyrion will die in the final episode.]]
After a great victory, a satisfying fate for all the most hated characters, and a Stark ruling the North with justice and honor, as in Season One, there will be a final betrayal (possibly orchestrated by a Bolton) and Tyrion, new Hand to the King\Queen will be killed. The final moment of the series will be Tyrion dying in someone's arms (Sansa?) and saying, "And now his watch is ended." That would of course be the only way to kill him off without everybody boycotting the series, and by ensuring that the ending is not entirely satisfying.
[[WMG: Jorah Mormont will die protecting the Khaleesi.]]
Furthermore, he will die in her arms and it will be a [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming crowning moment of heartwarming]] without there ever having been any romance between them.
[[WMG: At least one of the villains will escape justice.]]
Joffrey, Cersei, Ilim Payne, Tywin, The Mountain, [[spoiler: Roose]] as of the third series, Frey, Ramsay... there are so, so many. Considering how many good characters die, it makes sense that some of these villains will never get the nasty fates they deserve.
[[WMG: Bran Stark will end up on the Iron Throne, with Tyrion as his hand]]
Bran will find magic powers in the north, take several levels in Baddass, learn to walk again, and take the throne. Tyrion may end up eventually undoing Danerys when she succumbs to the Targaryen madness, or simply be around when she is defeated in her invasion of Westeros or her dragons turn on her. Tyrion has shown himself to be a capable Hand and got along well with Bran.)
[[WMG: Jon Snow will fight Daenerys Targaryen for the Iron Throne, win and be known as "King Snow" or the "The Bastard King"]]
Jon Snow will end up with an army of others and wildlings, and Bran's advanced magic abilities. Danerys will invade Westeros. Between the two of them, they will obliterate the Lannisters (except for Tyrion, because he always manages to survive). The two will fight and Jon's side will prevail.
[[WMG: The unused S3 melody "For the Realm"]]
...was originally part of a deleted scene showing the fates of the Northerners bodies after the Red Wedding.
[[WMG: The Tarly that Robert killed was the heir to House Tarly]]
Either Sam's uncle or an older brother. He had been carefully groomed from birth to lead the Tarlys in the future, but Robert put an end to that during the rebellion against Aerys. This set in motion a chain of events that ended with Sam, a kid who wouldn't have hope of inheriting originally and had not been prepared as a result, as heir presumptive.
* Does your chain of events include Sam's father, Lord Randyll? Because whether or not he was meant to inherit, he's done a fairly good job lording the house. ...Well, if by "good" we include "forcing your son to join the Night's Watch ''because'' he would make a poor lord," but let's be honest: he might have been a jackass about it, but he was not wrong.
[[WMG: Gendry will ''become'' Hyle Hunt]]
The Goldcloaks don't know his face but they do know his name. Running around the Crownlands under the name Gendry ''and'' looking like a Baratheon is still a likely death sentence. So, why not change names? "Hyle" could either be a LineOfSightName, or even a DeadPersonImpersonation with so many knights slain in battle during the War of the Five Kings.
[[WMG: Walder Frey [[spoiler:will become a CompositeCharacter of Emmon Frey and Devan Lannister.]]]]
When/If they show the [[spoiler:Siege of Riverrun]] subplot from AFFC, [[spoiler:Walder Frey will make an appearance at the Lannister/Frey camps close to Riverrun, where he has been appointed its newly made lord and arranged to marry a Lannister girl.]] This would solve the issue of introducing characters whose back stories haven't been previously established, particularly [[spoiler:Emmon Frey, whose marriage to Tywin's sister would confuse TV audiences into thinking: [[PlotHole "Wait, if the Lannisters were already married into House Frey, why weren't the Freys on the Lannisters' side in the first place?"]]]]
[[spoiler:Since Joyeuse Frey has been KilledOffForReal in the adaptation, the producers could easily have him reappear and take Devan's place, which would gender-invert the marriage pact that was made in the books. Also, Emmon Frey was an ItsAllAboutMe {{Jerkass}} who loved to boast about being the new Lord of Riverrun, which wouldn't be at all out-of-character for the old weasel. Even better, with the Brotherhood Without Banners at Riverrun "making plans for the wedding", Lord Frey could suffer a DeathByAdaptation at the "Red Wedding 2.0".]]
[[WMG: Jaime will give his position in the Kingsguard to Loras]]
The Kingsguard is made of 7 sworn knights, no more no less. While it is for life, Barristan's forced resignation (ironically to give his commander position to Jaime) sets a precedent for Jaime himself doing it, and the loss of his swordhand is the perfect excuse since he can't protect the King without it anyway. This will be a delight for Tywin, who wants Jaime to inherit Casterly Rock, marry and sire children that will keep it away from Tyrion (the Kingsguard requires celibacy and holding no lands or titles); but Jaime won't do it for him. He will as part of a gamble to save Cersei from a second arranged marriage and keep her to himself. So, in order to cancel the Cersei-Loras match, Jaime will offer Loras the Kingsguard position as his way out of the marriage, and Loras, being gay and Cersei being, well, Cersei, will accept. Joffrey will accept to name Loras behind Tywin's back because [[spoiler:he'll be bitter and want to piss off his grandfather after a discussion between the two]], as hinted by the promo and released synopsis for 3x10, and he's certainly petty and stupid enough to damage Tyrell-Lannister relations by doing this without sparing a second.
* There should be an open spot in the Kingsguard from when the Hound deserted.
** Actually, [[SeriousBusiness fans who have counted]] the Kingsguards in the background in Season 3 have concluded that they are 7 if you count Jaime and the one that went to Dorne with Myrcella, suggesting that the Hound's spot was filled between seasons. (Book spoiler: [[spoiler:His name's Osmund Kettleblack.]])
[[WMG: Tormund is Ygritte's father]]
He is old enough to be her father and promiscuous enough to not be sure about it. The two are also redheads and take an instant liking of Jon Snow despite having little reason to do so.
* I like this theory. I think he knows she is his daughter. In "The Climb", when she is about to fall, he is more worried than he was when all the others fell.
[[WMG: Loras will die.]]
* If you haven't read book 4, turn back now! [[spoiler: In A Feast for Crows, Loras recieves mortal wounds during a raid on Dragonstone, having been put to the obviously suicidal mission by Cersei. By A Dance with Dragons, he has still not recovered. He seems to have done his plot duty by this point and it's not likely we'll ever see him again. As of season three, Loras's role has been upped from the book, and David and Dan seem to be even more bloodthirsty than the original author. Chances are they're going to go right for the throat (or burning oil) and follow up on the show's murderous reputation. It grows ever more likely with every Loras scene, as he's quickly becoming a fan favorite.]]
** In the episode Mhysa, Cersei tells Tyrion in no uncertain terms she won't be marrying Ser Loras. How could she pull this off without angering Tywin? Seems this might be the way to do it...
*** Loras's death will anger Olenna a lot, even more than Joffrey's treatment of Margaery already has. Mace (who will now appear) may try doing something, but god knows he's always ineffective. But Olenna standing there taking the death of her grandson like nothing? Oh-no. [[spoiler: It will lead nicely to her poisoning Joffrey. And the best part? If the above troper is right, it will be Cersei's fault.]] Maybe now that Stannis is already on his way to the wall, Cersei will set the Siege of Dragonstone earlier.
*** ''If'' Loras dies in Season 4, it won't occur before [[spoiler:the PW because Finn Jones has appeared in at least three HBO featurettes dressed in Loras' flowery outfit with the outdoor wedding feast set in the background.]]
** I very much doubt that TV!Loras will be killed off before the events of ''The Winds of Winter'' because according to GRRM, [[http://winteriscoming.net/2013/10/grrm-talks-season-4-beyond/ Willas and Garlan Tyrell will have important parts to play in future novels]]. TV!Loras is already a CompositeCharacter of his AdaptedOut brothers, so he will most likely take over their roles in the later seasons.
[[WMG:Margaery Tyrell does anal, or is bisexual]]
* In season 3, when she's trying to comfort Sansa about the positives of marrying Tyrion, she mentions that he's said to be quite skilled, and that women are very hard to pleased, among other things. Sansa asks her how she knew that, and if her mother had told her. Margaery hesitates, as wondering if she should screw with Sansa's innocence and adoration for her or not, and then she unconvincingly says that yeah, her mother told her. Now, for her to be betrothed to Joffrey, having Loras vouch for her maidenhood wouldn't be enough. Surely there would have been some sort of official "checking", so she must be a maiden still. Now, what would they be looking at to confirm she's a maiden? Exactly. So if she's indeed "versed" in sex, she must have either had [[spoiler: only anal sex with men, or have non-penetrative sex with other women.]] The second option wouldn't be so far fetched, considering what his brother is like, and how nonchalant her grandmother was when confronted by Tywin about the rumors about him.
** While this could be true, we cannot take for granted that she is TechnicalVirgin. Checking the hymen isn't very reliable, since many women lose their hymens while riding, and characters in the books (including Cersei, who would love to find a way to get rid of Margaery) freely admit it.
** Because non-penetrative sex between heterosexual couples doesn't exist, obviously.
[[WMG:Most of "A Feast for Crows" Will be Omitted Completely.]]
* Until book 4, "A Song of Ice and Fire" is a rollicking thriller, but "Feast" is kind of the oddball of the series, in that not much really happens. The focus is on the fallout of the war, rather than on the twisty conflicts of the rest of the series. The Greyjoy, Martell, Arya, and Sansa chapters are all essential, but a majority of it is Cersei brooding in King's Landing and Brienne riding around for no apparent reason. Chances are 99% of the Brienne material will be cut and Cersei will get even less screen time than in season 3. Luckily, there's more material to combine with "Dance" to make up a solid season 4-5.
** This makes sense, to a point. AFFC and ADWD are meant to be taking place simultaneously. My prediction is that this will be reflected starting season five.
** On that note, most of Dany's Meereen material will be abridged as well. A whole lot of minor characters that play a role in those chapters are either dead or have been omitted by the writers. There's too much relevant stuff going on in Westeros to bother the viewers with having to remember 40 new characters all named Hazoo.
[[WMG:In the series verse Syrio Forel is Jaqen H'ghar.]]
Syrio Forel's discussion on death sounds a heck of a lot like [[spoiler:a faceless man]]. Alternatively he just knows it well being of Braavos.
* The whole speech did seem to imply his familiarity at the very least with the book's Many-Faced God. Might be the creators have a little inside info that they need to hint at a connection to [[spoiler: The Faceless Men]] and Syrio for some reason. However they could just as easily be using a native Braavosi to introduce Arya to the concept of the god of death without it seeming like heavy handed exposition. Just simply planting the seed for the future story lines. I do hope it is the case as it's one of my favourite theories or failing that Syrio returns in some other way.
** Er, what? Isn't "Not today?" the exact ''opposite'' of "valar morghulis"?
** Eh, "All Men Must Die." doesn't mean it has to be today they die. "All Men Must Die but Not Today."?
* The motto is two parts; "All Men Must Die; All Men Must Serve." There's a WMG somewhere that proposes that as Braavos is a former slave city, "serve" is next to synonymous with "live", as in "I can't die today, I'm busy serving".
* Interestingly, one of [[spoiler:Jaqen's]] other identities, The Alchemist, is actually described in the books as looking a fair amount like TV!Syrio- he has thick, black curly hair and a fairly large, hooked nose. This would make it easy for the show to confirm this theory, by having [[spoiler:Jaqen]] be a different actor, and then transform back into (a disguised) Syrio as The Alchemist. Still, as noted below, it's hard to believe that Syrio survived his last appearance- if Trant/Syrio is alive, then Syrio/Trant shouldn't be.
** Actually he could be. If he could somehow escape the room (either by disarming Trant or simply escaping through the window), it's unlikely Trant would tell anyone that he was outmaneuvered by the little girl's dance instructor. Trant could have easily coerced his guards into backing some story of Syrio's demise to save himself the embarassment/punishment.
* Possible evidence in the season 2 finale; When Jaqen says goodbye to Arya, he calls her "Arya Stark", despite Arya never telling him her name.
[[WMG:Syrio Forel did not die in episode 8.]]
You can hear several death screams after Arya ran out of the room. Clearly Syrio picked the sword from one of the downed soldiers and made quick work of all of them. He just didn't want Arya to see the slaughter.
* Why stop there? I'm pretty sure the season finale will end with the Lannister and Stark armies converging on King's Landing, the gates swing open, and all we'll see is Syrio Forel, standing atop a pile of shishkebabbed Lannisters.
* We last saw him face Ser Meryn Trant in a fight to the death. Meryn Trant has survived the encounter as he hits Sansa in the season finale.
* Not to mention, one of the heads on spikes in the same scene may be his. It's difficult to tell, but it may be the one to the left of the Septa's.
* In the books, it's never elaborated on whether he was killed or not, or what happened to him. The only reference to him up through book 5 is a brief reference to him--still referred to as Arya's dancing master--interfering with their attempt to grab Arya resulting in her getting away.
** Additionally, George R. R. Martin has never actually confirmed that Syrio died, only vaguely hinted at it, which is highly unusual since he has confirmed outright every other offscreen death thus far. It's possible he's leaving himself an opening in case readers and viewers want Syrio to make another appearance.
[[WMG: Ros has become a spy for Littlefinger and/or Varys and Pycelle was onto it.]]
We know she works Littlefinger and besides her profession, has a natural talent for being TheWatson/played into the show's love of "sexposition". It seems rather suspicious in "Fire and Blood" that she basically wanted to know Pycelle's feelings about all of the kings that he's served, and he seemed to catch on this, which probably explains why he effusively praises Joffrey (he wouldn't want that psychopath to learn that Pycelle had criticized him) and seems to feign senility to stop Ros' questioning. Note that the very next scene shows Varys and Littlefinger involved in their usual plotting.
* Probably every single one of Littlefinger's whores is a spy for him. And yes, Pycelle is clearly feigning that he is just a senile old guy - after Ros leaves, he stretches, makes a couple of squats, then puts on his robe, his chains ''and his slouch''.
** I wouldn't call this a guess so much as an outright fact. It even seems as though he begins expositing to her without her asking anything, as though he is intentionally taking an opportunity to further portray himself with the mask he has been wearing to this point. Everything he has said and done when other characters are present could be for an (as of yet) undisclosed agenda. The real question is "What is Pycelle's agenda?"
** Jossed as of "The Climb".
*** Not really. Littlefinger could very well have employed Ros as a spy before she defected to Varys. And we still don't know if Pycelle was on it in that scene, and probably we never will.
[[WMG: The Starks and Danaerys will wind up in alliance together]]
* Ned, one of the principle instigators of the Baratheon rebellion, is no longer [[IncrediblyLamePun head]] of the Stark family, Robb and Catelyn want vengeance for Ned's execution, and the man who killed Dany's father in the first place, Jaime Lannister, is in Stark custody. The Starks, furthermore, have no interest in the Iron Throne, instead content to govern themselves and see to the problems in the North. It would be a mutually beneficial partnership: The Starks assist Danaerys, her legitimacy to the throne reinforced by the fact that she's truly of the Dragon's blood(immunity to fire) and one of the symbols of the Targaeryens' Mandate of Heaven(of sorts) was their dragons which Dany's returned to the world. The Starks, meanwhile, want to just be left alone in Winterfell(hell, they might not completely secede from Westeros if Joffrey's beheaded, the Lannisters wiped out, and a new king/queen is on the Throne that they're no longer at hostilities with) and they're only fighting to maintain their (newly found) independence.
** Well, the Greatjon ''did'' say that it was the dragons the Northerners bowed to...
[[WMG: Gendry (Robert's bastard that Ned met) is actually Cersei and Robert's legitimate heir.]]
* Cersei, not wanting a son by Robert on the throne, had him sent away (or he was smuggled away to prevent Cersei from killing him) under the guise that he died as the black-haired baby that Cersei told Catelyn about. After Cersei found out that Ned had been looking into Robert's other children, Gendry's master sent him off to the North to save him from being killed by her. Alternately, Gendry is not Cersei's but Robert and Lyanna's, and Cersei resented him for being the son of a dead woman / thought he would be a threat to any other children she had.
** If Gendry was Cersei's son and she sent him away right after his birth, wouldn't someone have noticed that she was pregnant?
** It's canon in both the books and the show that Cersei had a kid before Joffrey; in the books she aborted the pregnancy with Jaime's help (it was Robert's kid and she only wanted to have Jaime's), and in the show she actually gave birth to a child by Robert, specifically mentioned to be blackhaired, and he died very young, presumably not long after birth. It *is* possible, but highly unlikely.
** There's no reason to believe Cersei was telling the truth about having Robert's child in the show.
*** There totally '''is'''. That scene is important because it showed the audience 1) that Cersei still has some feelings left, and 2) it's the first sign for the audience that something's wrong with Joffrey's... genealogic tree. Had she been lying, the revelation of that (and Ned figuring that out on his own) comes from too much of a left field.
** Gendry states that his mother had yellow hair, adding to the slight possibility that Cersei could be his mother. If she was his mother (at least on the show only), then Cersei was probably content to have a trueborn son until Joffrey was born and she decided a true Lannister was better than a Baratheon on the Iron Throne. She claims the older boy (no more than a toddler) fell ill and died so that Joff becomes heir, yet loves her firstborn enough not to kill him and sends him to some trusted household in King's Landing.
[[WMG: Jon Snow is King Robert's bastard.]]
* Jon has black hair, like all the Baratheon children. Ned and Robert were away at war together when Jon was born. Ned took the child to raise as his own, making up the story about his parentage for the sake of his friend, Robert.
** Doesn't that mean his name should actually be [[Creator/JohnWaters Jon Waters]]?
** No, if this was true he would have to be retconned female. Her name? Joan Rivers.
*** First off, [[ActuallyPrettyFunny tee hee]]. Secondly, not necessarily. Careful research (going by the books here, with liberal exploitation of A Wiki of Ice and Fire) has led this troper to conclude that the bastard names must be more a matter of where the child is raised rather than born/conceived, a matter that usually isn't of note because the two are usually the same place. Take Edric Storm, the bastard son Robert conceived on Stannis's wedding night in his marriage bed (ouch). By all logic, his name should be Edric Waters, as he was born/conceived at Dragonstone in the Crownlands (or Edric Flowers, if we take the long shot that Stannis and Selyse were married in ''her'' family's castle in the Reach), but he's instead given the bastard name of the Stormlands, which could only be because he was fostered by Renly at Storm's End. Then there's the fact that (as is established) Robert and Ned were away at war, so no way was Jon actually ''born'' in the North, even if we ignored that Wylla (the woman Ned presents as Jon's mother when he talks about her at all) was a servant of House Dayne in ''Dorne'' (to put things into perspective for the TV-only fans, when the wildlings were talking about going as south as south can go? They either meant Dorne or getting off Westeros). If Eddard ''was'' raising Robert's bastard son as his own, then he'd only naturally slap on the name of the North in the hopes that people wouldn't ask too many questions.
[[WMG:Or Jon Snow is the Bastard Child of Lyanna Stark...]]
Why not both? They were in love, after all.
* Not necessarily. Robert was in love with Lyanna, yes, but the books imply this was mainly from a distance and don't give any indication they ever actually slept together. Lyanna is even suggested to have been somewhat cynical about the arrangement; a flashback has her telling Ned that she knew Robert would never be satisfied with just one woman, even her. The popular guess, though this hasn't been confirmed in any way shape or form, is that Jon is the bastard of Lyanna and ''Rhaegar'', followed up by him being the bastard of Ned or his brother Brandon and Ashara Dayne.
* More on the Jon is son of Lyanna Stark: In his last conversation with Ned, he tells him (paraphrasing) "You don't have my name, but you have my blood". That fits a bastard son [[JediTruth as much as a nephew by your sister]]. Too bad he didn't live to fullfill what he promised when he said "We'll speak some day about your mother".
** Don't you know? "We'll speak about this some day" is TV talk for "This is the last time you will see me before my untimely demise."
* Another problem with this is that if Jon was Robert's child by Lyanna, there is no way in the seven hells Robert ''wouldn't'' claim the kid as his own. Hell, he'd probably raise him at court. Something not mentioned in the show yet, but will become a plot point in the second season is that Robert does have a bastard he acknowledges back in Storm's End, and he's really more of a father to that kid than he ever was to Joffery. That was specifically because Robert deflowered a daughter of a noble(if somewhat minor) house on his brother's wedding bed, so he couldn't very well deny the kid was his. But he actually loved Lyanna and never cared about humiliating Cersei. He'd hold onto his and Lyanna's son for dear life. Hell, he might even legitimize him(king's can declare bastard children legit) and name him heir, but that might go a little too far towards pissing off Tywin.
** All the more reason to suspect he might be Rhaegar's. Consider, if you will, Jaime's little speech about Jon Snow: "You hated that boy, didn't you? The walking, talking reminder that the honorable Lord Eddard Stark fucked another woman." Now multiply that by Robert's irrationality, hatred of Rhaegar, obsession with Lyanna, fondness for the war hammer, and record for caring about the deaths of inconvenient Targaryen babies (0-2) and you start to see why Ned Stark would want to keep the kid a secret.
*** (guy who posted that bit about why Robert would have kept Jon if he was his bastard here) Personally I subscribe to the (book based speculation) [[spoiler:Ned Stark/Ashara Dayne theory. Which isn't to say the Rheargar/Lyanna theory doesn't hold a lot of water, but one of the reasons I don't buy it is because it's set up so nicely and that's exactly the kind of bait and switch Martin would go for. I'm just pointing out that this Robert+Lyanna= Jon theory just doesn't hold up.]]
*** Except that idea of the bait&switch of Jon's parentage being so obvious it could lead fans to disregard it completely could be the whole point of that. Granted, this troper is very new to the series (haven't read the books yet, only seen the first few eps of season 1, but been reading a lot of rather spoileriffic entries here and numerous clips on YouTube) but don't forget that there's a fine line between being on to the writer's tricks and the writer is deliberately setting you up with something so seemingly obvious that you dismiss the possibility entirely.
*** Robert may have kept Jon if he were his bastard, if he knew about it. He may have never seen Lyanna pregnant, what with the whole kidnapping thing, and she may have wanted to keep Jon out of the royal family. After all, in this theory, she'd just been kidnapped and (presumably) raped by the prince; she's probably not all that enthusiastic about her son becoming a prince. And being as she was dying, Robert would have to marry someone else, and whoever that woman was, she probably wouldn't be happy about Robert's son with another woman hanging around (obviously, Catelyn wasn't happy about that either, but being as the Starks aren't royalty, it matters somewhat less to the realm. Also, Ned kind of got lucky with Cat; yeah, she wasn't happy about Jon, but she never outright mistreated him. Can you imagine, say, Cersei doing the same?)
[[WMG: Jon Snow's parents are Ned and...Cersei??]]
* Its a bit of a stretch but I couldn't shake the feeling that the story Cersei gives about her first-born, black-haired child had some greater significance. The theory is that [[ManipulativeBitch Cersei]] somehow managed to seduce Ned into sleeping with her, prior to or during the early part of her marriage to Robert. Then she became pregnant and gave birth to Jon. They both realised that the child may eventually grow to resemble Ned instead of Robert, which would cause a massive heap of trouble so they faked the baby's death by fever and Ned took him back to Winterfell, both promising to never speak of their affair. Not even to each other.
** First of...Wow, just trying [[CrackPairing to wrap my head around that]]. It makes zero sense and requires Ned and Cersei to be totally different than what we see in the story. The point of that Cersei story about her first child dying (not there in the books) is to foreshadow that Joffrey is a bastard. Its not meant to be anything deeper than that. Second of all, Cersei is a MamaBear, its her one redeeming quality, she would never willingly allow any of the children (that she does not abort and gives birth to at any rate) to be parted from her under any circumstances, leave alone be frozen in North and left to rot in the Night's Watch. Third of all and this is what cinches the deal of a far-fetched theory...if Cersei was worried about Jon resembling Robert, why the hell isn't she worried about ''Joffrey, Tommen and Myrcella'' who look even less like Robert than Jon does (they at least share the hair colour and if Jon Snow grows a beard, Kit Harrington could look like Robert). She is rather brazen about regarding those kids as official progeny when all three of them are golden haired lion cubs with no stag in them. So that's about it.
[[WMG: The Stallion that Mounts the World prophesy was actually about dragons.]]
* This was noted on this Westeros site's forum and I noticed part of it too. There may be a ProphecyTwist in that the death of Dany's son didn't disprove the Stallion prophecy- instead, it started the chain of events that will bring it about. The "Stallion" is actually a dragon that Dany will ride and will use to TakeOverTheWorld. So, if the witch thought she was preventing Dothraki expansionism by killing Dany's son, it's quite likely she [[NiceJobBreakingItHero actually made it possible]]. Incidentally, Dany's stillborn son was described as having scales and a tail- maybe that gave Dany the idea; maybe it would have been a human/dragon hybrid...
** In the series Danys was much younger when she married, so that the child growing within her to be the stallion who mounts the world is actually Danys. It turns out Old Valarian had no gender...
*** Except the Dothraki don't speak Old Valyrian, so this particular ProphecyTwist only applies to prophecies written in Valyrian. That is, only the the Prince Who Was Promised prophecy.
[[WMG: Some musings about Westeros' climate]]
* Putting it here cos this dips far into the theoretical field of things. Not sure how physically possible this is or not, but make up your own mind about it. The seasons on the world where Westeros and the rest are situated are not caused by the planet's tilt or by an elliptical orbit, which causes seasons on most worlds. On the contrary; Westeros-world has a small axial tilt and as near a circular orbit as is physically possible. The seasons are in fact caused by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precession the planet's precession]]. On Earth and other worlds, the rate of precession is slow and constant, with Earth's precession rate averaging 26,000 years or so in length, and is a major player in causing Ice Ages and warmer periods. On Westeros-world, the precession rate varies wildly, whether caused by a nearby large gravity well or otherwise, the rate can't stabilise. Mention is made of a prominent moon and that there may have at one time been two (loss of a moon leading to wildly fluctuating precession rate?). The precession rate is also phenomenally fast, taking as little as 15-30 years to complete.
** I'm obsessed with this too. While the moon is "prominent" in their night sky, that ''could'' only indicate its proximity, not its size. It's entirely possible that their moon is smaller than ours and has a weaker gravitational pull. It would be fascinating to see an [[WordOfGod approved]] chart of the planet's solar system, with orbits and satellites, etc, similar to [[http://www.fireflyshipworks.com/map-of-the-verse/map-of-the-verse/ The Map of the 'Verse]] from Firefly.
** WordOfGod says the reason for this is supernatural, not scientific.
** Yep. IMHO, you're looking at a tidal aetheric energy type deal, similar to what you had with The Lord of the Rings, with the elves having to leave there, because they were dual physical/astral beings, who couldn't co-exist physically when the aetheric tide was that low/veil between the two was that thick. Best guess, the Wall between Westeros and the North was built close to the end of the last aetheric high tide, which is also why there was talk of runes being in the Wall's design. Back then, the humans would have had magick users who knew how to do such things. At another guess, that is also why the dragons died off, and why they're coming back now. The aetheric tide is rising, which not only coincides with Winter coming, (and is probably partly tied into it, more than any scientific/physical reason for the change in seasons) but would be a big part of the reason why the Walkers are able to come back. At aetheric low tide, you get no magic, and nothing but mundane types of people and animals, which is also why you get people becoming materialistic and thinking that science is all that exists, because low tide periods can last longer than living memory, so non-magickal stuff is all anyone living can remember.
** If the orbital tilt is zero, precession is by definition zero. If precession makes the orbital tilt non-zero, you will get seasons which won't change the average temperature of the planet, and not a sudden "winter". Since years are used as a measure of time, they must have the same length, so the orbit can't change. This leaves fluctuations of the star's intensity, but that wouldn't explain the "long night" - a period in the lore where the sun didn't shine at all, something which would mean the destruction of any physical star because of the lack of photon pressure. This leaves as only option technology. Either the star is simulated, there's a dyson cloud or dyson sphere which is mostly translucent between the planet and the star, the planet contains machines to alter its rotational characteristics, it's all a computer simulation, or multiple of the above. There is no natural phenomenon to explain this, and no simple technology either.
*** Maybe the title sequence is more realistic than we realize, and Westeros is on the inside of a malfunctioning [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere Dyson Sphere]]; the sun in the center has started to wobble, causing the random length of the seasons.
[[WMG: Bronn is a deserter from the Night's Watch]]
* He admits to having been north of the Wall for some unexplained "work". He's not exactly the most honorable guy, and could have been a criminal who was sent to the Wall as punishment, then fled, escaping the law and becoming a sellsword to make his living.
** He mentions the first person he killed was a woman who came at him with an axe. Sounds like a wilding to me.
*** I kind of thought the woman he killed before he was twelve was his mother, who he says was abusive.
** They don't send kids to the wall though - he killed her before he was twelve. Maybe he ''is'' a wildling, or he could be a bastard from one of the brothels in the North.
*** What about Lommy or Hot Pie? They might not *condemn* children to the Wall but they definitely *recruit* them.
[[WMG: Women from the kingdom of Dorne taste like blackberry jam]]
Robert is heard to comment to a prostitute that she tastes like blackberry jam. When asked 'what's the strangest thing you've ever eaten,' Tyrion replies, 'do Dornish girls count?' Maybe the prostitute was from Dorne, where all the girls taste of jam, much to Tyrion's surprise the first time he slept with one.
* One would assume the reason any woman would taste like blackberry jam would be that they're using a type of lotion, perfume, or cream derived from blackberries, specifically for flavor enhancement. Perhaps this is especially common in Dorne.
* Slight correction, but I believe Robert's words were that the girl ''smelled'' of blackberry jam. Though if that was a result of a perfume or skin lotion she may have tasted like jam as well. Seems like something a prostitute would do.
* ''Ha!'' In the book version of his introduction, Mance Rayder is singing a song called "[[http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/The_Dornishman%27s_Wife The Dornishman's Wife]]"...
-->"Brothers, oh brothers, my days here are done,
--->the Dornishman's taken my life,
-->But what does it matter, for all men must die,
--->and I've tasted the Dornishman's wife!"
[[WMG: Jon Snow and Daenerys will team up to form a rock band at some point]]
Their first hit will be called "A Song of Ice (Snow) and Fire (Daenerys)".
* I picture them sounding a lot like the White Stripes.
[[WMG: They'll return [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/05/the-simpsons-game-of-thrones_n_1321443.html the favor]] and parody ''TheSimpsons'' opening.]]
An aerial shot of a rebuilt Winterfell as a modern city, complete with Lard Lad Lemoncakes sign and billboard advertising snow tires with the slogan "Winter is Coming", descends into a classroom window. Bran is WritingLines on the blackboard: "I will not warg into the class gerbil"...
** Or maybe "Asshai is not pronounced ass-high".
[[WMG: Bronn is a SelfMadeOrphan]]
The woman that attacked him with an axe when he was 12 and was his first kill was his mother (who he said was physically abusive to him). His father, who was ''also'' abusive, was either already dead by then, or was Bronn's ''second'' kill.
[[WMG: It wasn't a ''cow'' pie.]]
For one, there was not a single cow in that crowd.
* Maybe somebody traveled with it from a field?
[[WMG: Syrio is a Faceless Man, but he isn't Jaqen.]]
Actually, he killed Meryn and has been posing as him ever since.
[[WMG: All characters from the Free Cities will have mainland European accents]]
The show will continue to use accents to distinguish regions. From Syrio, we already know that Braavos is Spanish (or possibly Greek). Shae and Jaqen are Lorathi, with German accents. The others will follow - Lys could be French. The tricky one is Pentos - Magister Illyrio has been shown speaking with an English accent (which on the show maps to Westeros, particularly the South.
** King of zig-zagged, Mero & Tycho Nestoris of Braavos and Thoros of Myr have generally British accents, but in Thoros's case he's been in Westeros for two decades and has likely lost his accent as a result.
[[WMG: Qarth does not exist.]]
The whole city is just an illusion created by Pyat Pree.
* Jorah might agree with the idea, but Dany and the khalassar disagree when looting. Why would there be unlooted treasure in ruins, if there was no living city? Why would there be any loot at all if there are no ruins and no city?
** [[YourMindMakesItReal There is no loot.]]
*** There also weren't any chains in the tower, and we saw what happened to them because they didn't exist. The loot, on the other hand, exists because it didn't turn into dust or ashes.
*** [[XanatosSpeedChess That's what Pyat Pree wanted you to think.]]
** Alternatively, the treasures of these ruins didn't get looted until now [[FridgeBrilliance because Pyat Pree lets every potential looter think that there is a living city]].
[[WMG: The clockwork map shown in the intro will make an appearance on the show.]]
Maybe it'll be a very expensive trinket Dany and co. see in a bazaar, or perhaps one of the kings will possess such a map.
[[WMG: The depiction of Ramsay Bolton will be a Crazy Awesome troll who will rival Tyrion in terms of audience adoration.]]
Building on the above theory of Ramsay Bolton being the Hornblower simply due to sheer trollery, when he is properly introduced to the show he will near instantly garner a memetic reputation for nightmarish yet insanely hilarious dickery, as well as delivering some unspeakably satisfying and cathartic Karma to [[spoiler:a certain Mr Greyjoy]]. His horrifyingly brutality will always be tempered by extremely dark hilarity, and his abuse of "Reek" will start off almost comically petty and humiliating, before steadily becoming darker and more sadistic.
Long story short, Ramsay will be one of the best characters in the show.
* Even if he [[spoiler:forces women to eat their own fingers or run naked through the forests only to be hunted down by his dogs, raped & butchered.]] He'll do so in style!
** Roose: "My son has sent you a wedding gift, your grace. [[spoiler:"A Piece of Prince"."]]
** This troper is shuddering at the thought of the impending Woobification of Ramsay <strike>Snow</strike> Bolton.
*** DON'T YOU PICK ON MY POOR MISUNDERSTOOD BB! HE JUST NEEDS A HUG!
*** [[spoiler: Given that "The Boy" is so certain to be Ramsay that fans aren't even pretending that there is any other possibility, I'd say that he is being played completely in synch with his book counterpart. And if that's the case? Then if the general reaction over at [[TelevisionWithoutPity TWoP]] is any indication, then this is Jossed: He's rapidly becoming TheScrappy.]]
*** [[spoiler: Outside of TWOP, opinions seem to vary. Nobody's yet called him one of the best characters on the show, so technically still jossed.]]
*** [[spoiler: Judging from fan reactions in forums, youtube, facebook, tumblr e.t.c. the guy is most certainly considered CreepyAwesome and on his way to become a DracoInLeatherPants.]]
*** [[spoiler: Of course that depends on where you look. Most don't mind him, some think he's awesome and more then a few fans thinks his a {{Scrappy}} and are actively cheering for Yara's to show up and teach him a lesson. Who knew being a skinning, castrating troll who takes pleasure in stoning cripples could come off as repugnant?]]
[[WMG: It's actually VERY easy to open Xaro's vault, both from the outside and the inside]]
Of course, the vault is actually empty, hence why all the people that were offered whatever was inside still went home empty-handed. This means that Xaro will survive his incarceration [[spoiler: as he is still alive in the books canon, though perhaps not Doreah, who was KilledOffForReal.]]
* While 'went home empty-handed' can be interpreted that way, I doubt it. The key to Xaro's power is that no one knows the vault is empty. I don't think he would just let those who know go home, especially considering they must be very angry about the way he tricked them.
[[WMG: Jaqen H'ghar was caged because the man wanted to.]]
(This troper hasn't read the books yet, so he doesn't know if he's talking out of his ass.)
The man is a skilled stealth fighter, yet the first time we see him, he's locked up like a common delinquent, with other two criminals. How WAS he captured? Perhaps he ''let himself be'', in order to closely follow Arya (who the man knows to be a Stark) without raising suspicions.
* This gives more weight to the theory that he's either Syrio OR cooperating with him.
[[WMG: The world of ''Game of Thrones'' is an [[HollowWorld inverted globe]].]]
This is purely based on the map of the opening, which is indeed a hollow globe with all the continents on the inside, and the sun in the middle. If there's some kind of partially open sphere between the sun and the surface, it could account for day and night, the stars, perhaps even the Long Winters and Summers.
[[WMG: Varys is actually the true and greatest evil.]]
Lord Varys the eunch is really a dark and powerful sorcerer waiting for his best opportunity to strike. He is using the Varys skin and persona as a disguise to hide his true form which is both terrifying and gigantic. On top of that he is already mind controlling many people using his power. Maybe even Joffery.
* Well, the kings who listened to Varys' council had a tendency to either go mad (like Aerys or Joffrey) or become decadent (like Robert). In the books, there are rumors that Varys had something to do with Aerys' mental state. After [[spoiler: Varys' disappearance]] however, the king ([[spoiler: Tommen]]) has shown no sign of madness or decadence.
[[WMG: The pardon delivered to Jorah by one of Varys's little birds in Essos was a last ditch attempt to thwart/botch the assassination on Danaerys.]]
* Jorah seemed to go into sudden suspicious mode after receiving it. He put two and two together: If he was being pardoned, he wasn't needed to spy on Danaerys and was being rewarded for services rendered. And that would only mean that Danaerys would be... handled. It also gives Varys a convenient excuse to not only carry out King Robert's deathbed order of calling off the hit, but also to botch it and set things up later.
** Given how slowly mail travels in this world, this is pretty unlikely. The pardon was sent well before the assassin, Jorah simply knew enough about Robert Baratheon to anticipate an attempt.
[[WMG: Gregor Clegane was suffering from, or just suffered, Yellow Fever in the second season]]
Hence the loss in weight/muscle size. He probably contracted it while camping next to a mosquito-infested cesspool somewhere in the Riverlands.
[[WMG: Sam was not put on 'firedung collection' duty at the end of Season 2]]
Instead, he [[TagAlongKid tagged along]] Grenn and Edd because he couldn't shut up about Gilly and they are the only ones that would tolerate his talk without punching him. Hence Mormont's comment that sending the ravens was Sam's "only job".
[[WMG: The reason the showrunners have made Podrick a SexGod is...]]
George R R Martin has revealed his planned ending to Benioff and Weiss. And part of that is that Podrick Payne ends up married to Brienne of Tarth. The showrunners, realising that Brienne's many fans might not be satisfied with this, are laying the groundwork to ensure that the eventual reaction (many years from now) will be less "wait, Brienne has to settle for ''Pod''?" and more "aw yeah, Brienne's wedding night is gonna be ''epic''".
[[WMG: TV!Shae is a faceless woman]]
At one point in season 2, Tyrion is talking about people who might be dangerous and Shae responds with "I will cut off their faces." That's a very specific threat.
[[WMG: Stannis is not Shireen's real father]]
[[spoiler:Unlike in the book, where Shireen shared it along with Stannis' square jaw and some other ugly features]] Shireen has not the trademark Baratheon dark hair. Melisandre blatantly says that Selyse gave Stannis "nothing, only stillborns", and Selyse also says "I gave you nothing" when she is first introduced. When Stannis says that Shireen is his daughter and that he wants to see her (keep in mind that he has her alone in a tower and offered to name Renly his heir ahead of her last season, although that could be a bullshit offer given what happened later), Selyse says "You are ''a king''. You don't need my permission." - Not "You are ''her father''".
[[WMG: TV series isn't an adaptation of the books...]]
...it's a sequel. At the end of the last book, a ResetButton will be pressed, restoring everything to the way it was before, but without undoing the passage of time, which explains why many characters received an AgeLift. However, the characters still subconsciously remembered what happened, causing their actions to be slightly different. For example (feel free to add more):
* In the books, Ned didn't want to go to King's Landing and Catelyn talked him into going. In the series, Ned knew he was supposed to discover something and wanted to go, while Catelyn subconciously remembered losing him and tried to stop it.
* In the books, Tywin was betrayed by the Brave Companions, so TV!Tywin never hired them.
* TV!Tyrion knew not to trust Mandon Moore, so he dodged a bit earlier, saving his nose.
* At some point between the ResetButton and the start of the TV series, Willas and Garlan Tyrell died, making Loras the heir to the Highgarden.
* Edric Storm, to avoid almost being sacrificed, found himself a better hiding place.
[[WMG: Euron Greyjoy will be more skilled and powerful in magic in the show then in the books.]]
Similar to Pyat Pree's own AdaptationalBadass state, when Euron comes in, he will similarly so have more powerful and notable magical abilities, being a quasi-Warlock himself like Pree.
[[WMG: Sam will get the dragonglass back from [[spoiler:Coldhands]]]]
This way, he'll firmly establish himself as a well intended character that can be trusted [[spoiler:despite his uninviting aspect and nature. Even if Coldhands saved Gilly and Sam from wights like in the book, they (and the viewers) would still have reasons to wonder if this is just a bigger fish situation.]]
* Unlikely as of "Mhysa" ([[spoiler: Sam is back at Castle Black and Coldhands' part in leading him to the other side of the Wall has been cut]]) though technically still not jossed.
[[WMG: Shae is Lord Tywin's spy.]]
Whether or not she was one from the start, she seems both too improbable and all too beneficial to Tywin's purposes to be a coincidence. A camp follower who turns out to be not just extremely devoted, but outright clingy and jealous for her highborn employer? She keeps Tyrion from frequenting brothels like he used to, just as Tywin would want it, and Tyrion keeps her hidden in turn due to Tywin's threats. Also, the way she keeps begging Tyrion to just abdicate with her to the Free Cities would suit Tywin just fine, since he'd like nothing more than to have an excuse to disown Tyrion and make sure that he no longer embarrases the Lannister house with his existence. Finally, Tywin must know that the way he treats Tyrion isn't going to improve his loyalty to his family, and he must have an informant close to him to ensure that he doesn't start to plot against his house or the King in revenge.
[[WMG: Pyat Pree is still alive.]]
People seem to accept his death a bit to easily. We need to remember 2 things:
* 1) He is still alive in the books.
* 2) He can make copies of himself and the one we see die could be just another copy.
** We don't have confirmation that he's alive in the books; indeed, the implication is that he was killed by Euron and fed to two other warlocks.
[[WMG: In the far future, Tyrion will be worshiped as the god of tits and wine.]]
Because it is too good not to be so.
[[WMG:Series!Joffrey is asexual.]]
Or, rather, he has no interest in sex per se. He gets off solely on violence and torture. He would have raped Sansa, but not because he was attracted to her - he just wanted to see her suffer.
* This really doesn't seem to be the case. Joffrey often appears sexually turned on. Unfortunately the only thing that does turn him on is violence, directly or indirectly. That is not the same thing as asexuality, however.
** Without Joff having any nude scenes to see if he's getting an erection, we can't say that he's getting sexually turned on, just excited by violence.
[[WMG: The Karstarks will become important.]]
Robb's army was destroyed by Frey and Bolton treachery and Tywin has named Roose Bolton Warden of the North. But remember that the Karstarks still have their army, they marched home after Robb killed Lord Karstark. So, the heir of House Karstark might still contest Roose Bolton's claim in one way or another.
** Book spoilers: [[spoiler: The Karstarks actually end up being Bolton supporters in the book, aligning with Stannis and being TheMole for Roose. This holds true with the show as well.]]
[[WMG: Volantis will (secretly or openly) send men to Westeros to kill Freys.]]
The Maegyr are an important family in Volantis, and Talisa's parents will probably not take her murder lightly. So they might either hire mercenaries, or use their influence in the city government, or both, in order to get some revenge for their daughter. (Whoever they send might join the Brotherhood in the end, especially since [[spoiler: they'll have more or less the same goal as Stoneheart]].)
** Specifically, her younger brother-the one about whom she told Robb the story about his almost drowning as a child-will show up seeking answers and revenge. This show loves to have parallel storylines which reflect and contrast each other, and we're already going to have Oberyn Martell and Yara Greyjoy seeking revenge/rescue for their lost siblings, as well as Edmure Tully grieving Cat's murder. We'll get an episode focusing on these four characters.
** Since Volantis ultimately plays a minor but important role in the fifth novel (with hints of a slave revolt brewing that may soon shift the balance of power), perhaps the added Volantene connection in the show will factor into this somehow.
[[WMG: Old Nan was right all along. They really do live inside the eye of a blue-eyed giant named [=MacCumber=].]]
This completely explains the wonky seasons in [=ASOIF=] (stick with me on this one). [=MacCumber=] is so huge that the entire world fits inside his eyeball, and WeAreAsMayflies compared to him. When [=MacCumber=] blinks it lasts for hours, and that's what the world knows as "night". When [=MacCumber=] goes to bed it lasts for months or years, and that's what the world knows as "winter". The Southern kingdoms are at the back of [=MacCumber's=] eyeball, and that's why they're so much warmer (they get direct unobstructed sunlight). The North and the Land of Always Winter are on the sides of [=MacCumber's=] eyeball, and the lack of direct sunlight makes them colder.
[[WMG: Khal Drogo will come back]]
When Dany asked Mirri Maz Duur "When will he (Khal Drogo) be as he was?", MMD replied "When the sun rises in the West and sets in the East. When the seas go dry and the mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again and you bear a living child. Then he will return and not before." Now that sounds like a poetic way of saying "Never," but there are so many prophecies that contain "impossible" occurrences that end up occurring (eg. "When Burnam Wood shall come to Dunsinane") that I wonder if they might not actually occur. Maybe a volcanic eruption ("The mountain moving" causing the sky to light up "in the West") of some sort - though it needs elaboration.
* BOOK SPOILER! [[spoiler:While you can never tell with prophecy, that may just have happened by the end of the fifth book. The son who rose in the west and set in the east is a Dornish prince who died on Essos. The Dothraki sea is undergoing a drought, and the mountainous pyramids of Meereen, the third slaver city after Astapor and Yunkai, were overset by Daenerys's dragons. And Dany found blood on her thighs for the first time since her son's stillbirth. Book Five has a ''lot'' of particularly cryptic stuff, but once the fandom pieced ''this'' together... And trust me, we feel pretty cheated after his cameo at the Houses of the Undying, which was invented whole-cloth for the show.]]
[[WMG: Westeros has a PortalNetwork]]
It explains how Littlefinger managed to randomly be everywhere in season two. With the birth of the dragons and the return of magic in season one, Littlefinger decided to test it out by activating his own network, which he used to get around. It also explains why this happens less in seasons after this: he knows it works, and so he can rely on mundane means now rather than whatever unreliable BloodMagic (which is basically how magic works in Westeros) the portals use.
[[WMG: The series will jump ahead in time]]
Pure WMG here. Martin initially planned but discarded the idea of doing a time-jump between books III and IV. Since the series appears to be vaulting ahead on some of the slower-moving plot lines (like Brienne's and Bran's) and it seems unlikely that we are going to get some of the plotlines from Book IV (Dorne, the Kingsmoot) at all, it seems possible that the show will do what Martin did not. Between seasons 4 and 5, two years will pass. This will help with the problem that the young actors are visibly aging faster than their characters.
* This would have also have the advantage of cutting down on the drawn-out qualities that both Jon and Dany's plotlines have in Book V.
[[WMG: The Starks are (unbeknownst to themselves) the human incarnations of the 7]]
The seven Starks of Winterfell, Ned, Caitlyn, Robb, Sansa, Bran, Arya and Rickon are the earthly manifestations of the Seven.
* Ned is the Father, as he represents justice and honor, and he serves as Father to the Starks
* Caitlyn, while born a Tully, is still a Stark by marriage, and serves as the Mother
* Robb is the Warrior, as his strength in battle and battlefield command are great enough to decimate the Lannister forces.
* Sansa is the Maiden, as the chaste, innocent and ladylike Stark daughter.
* Arya is likely the Stranger, due to her fascination with the god of death, and her connection to ones such as Jaqen H'ghar
The last two are somewhat tricky, since they are given less import during their screen time due to their age and relative unimportance to the plot, but:
* Bran is named after the Founder of the Stark House, Bran, the Builder, which seems to indicate he is possibly the Smith. In addition, his nature as a "broken thing" possibly indicates, with some irony, that he is intended to be the Smith.
* Rickon, lastly, would be the Crone. This is probably the weakest connection, but as the Crone represents wisdom, it is possible that his wisdom has simply not been seen yet, due to his age. Likewise, if there is irony intended with the "broken thing" of Bran to be the Smith, it is possible Rickon exhibits similar irony, in being the youngest Stark, but still the crone.
Under this theory, it is quite possible that all Starks will "die" and either this will mean that the seven will be dead (leading to another faith, such as the red faith taking it's place) or that they will return to their immortal forms by the end of the books.
** The only problem with this theory is that the Starks are more commonly associated with the Old Gods and worship of the weirwood trees. That is very important for Bran in particular but also Jon (who takes his Night's Watch oaths at a godswood along with Sam, who decides to convert then and there). Even Sansa spends a lot of time at the godswood. Arya meanwhile seems to have caught on to the Braavosi God of Death. So, even there the Starks are not associated with one specific religion over the other.
[[WMG: The White Walkers [[spoiler: just like babies.]]]]
And they're invading Westeros in order to stop [[spoiler: all of the crimes against babies that are going on down there.]]
Their wrath could have first been triggered by the [[spoiler: deaths of the Targaryen children and the no doubt numerous child deaths that occurred during the sack of King's Landing and the rest of Robert's Rebellion.]] Then Craster [[spoiler: starts leaving out his sons who they graciously adopt and make their own.]] They begin to amass in numbers, just in case. And then the War of the Five Kings starts, [[spoiler: Robert's bastards except for Gendry are hunted down and killed]], which only serves to piss off the White Walkers further, along with the death of [[spoiler: Dany's unborn son]].
They aren't mindless evil ice demons, [[spoiler: they're doing it all for teh behbehs.]]
Everyone they've killed? [[spoiler: Guilty of crimes against babies.]] That's why they keep not killing Sam despite having ample opportunity to do so as well as the ability. He's innocent of [[spoiler: baby hurting.]] The White Walker Sam killed looked so pissed that Sam killed him because [[spoiler: he was just trying to help, man! What's the big deal, stabbin' him like that?]]
When the White Walkers descend, they will usher in a new age of [[spoiler: child welfare, and Westeros needs it.]]
[[WMG: [[spoiler: Lady Stoneheart's debut appearance]]]]
* Too much time has passed in-universe for [[spoiler: Lady Stoneheart's resurrection]] to happen onscreen. So what if instead of seeing [[spoiler: her condemn some random Frey mook]], the show waits for [[spoiler: Brienne's meeting with her]] to reveal that [[spoiler: she's alive?]] There can be rumors of [[spoiler: the brotherhood being led by some coldhearted]] person that no one lives to report back on, and then BOOM! [[spoiler: Stoneheart captures Brienne in season 5 or 6 and the audience is as surprised as she is.]]
[[WMG: Robin will fly!]]
It's practically a given that Littlefinger will get rid of Lysa Arryn as soon as possible. Afterwards, he'll use his "stepfather" position to consolidate his power in The Vale, and after he no longer needs Robin, he'll shove the dumb kid down the moon gate.
* He had it coming, mind you. Throwing an expensive crystal bird figure through it, in full view of the one who presented him with the gift? That's not proper protocol.
** In 4x07 Robin says that he will throw off the Moon Door anyone that annoys her, then proceeds to annoy her... he, he.
[[WMG: Gendry will travel to the Eyrie and befriend Sansa.]]
* He will run into a nobleman from the Vale, who will realize that he is one of Robert's bastards. The nobleman will bring Gendry to the Eyrie, where he will befriend Sansa/Alayne, taking some of Mya Stone's role from the books.
[[WMG: Sansa will do [[SlowlySlippingIntoEvil increasingly vile things]] while playing the game.]]
Her mentor, Littlefinger, is almost the classic underdog, starting at the very bottom of the ladder and gaining massive amounts of power despite his weak position, only unlike the typical underdog, he's not at all meant to be cheered on. With the terrible life Sansa has lead so far, it's safe to say that she, too, is an underdog of sorts, and thus may end up walking the same path her teacher strode...[[DeceptiveDisciple right after trampling him underfoot.]] Plus, many fans are extremely excited that Sansa's now playing the game and possibly preparing to get back at her tormentors, and GRRM's not exactly shy about turning his audience's joy into ash in their mouths.
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[[WMG: Tywin intentionally provoked Tyrion into killing him]]
Remember what happened earlier in the episode? Cersei told him about herself and Jaime. Realising that everything he had worked for has failed, Tywin saw no reason to live anymore. So, when Tyrion appeared with a crossbow, Tywin, at least subconsciously, wanted Tyrion to kill him and provoked him by calling Shae a whore.
[[WMG: There are more than three living dragons.]]
It's been a long while since I've read the books and I don't know if this has been expanded upon or pointed out, so bear with me. During Bran's first dream where he encounters the three eyed crow, he is falling endlessly until just before he hits the ground. At that point, he begins flying and sees everything that is going on with the other characters. He sees Robb training with a real sword for the first time. He sees Catelyn in her cabin as she sales across the Bite and Ser Rodrick getting seasick on the deck of the ship. He sees Ned arguing with Robert over the fight between their children, followed by Sansa crying and Arya laying awake in her bed quietly. He sees Jon sleeping at Castle Black, or at least near it.
These are all things that happened or were foreshadowed in the previous chapters, all things that really happened. Before he sees Jon, Bran flies across the narrow sea to Essos, over Vaes Dothrak and ultimately over Asshai.
'''"He lifted his eyes and saw clear across the Narrow Sea, to the Free Cities and the green Dothraki sea and beyond, to Vaes Dothrak under its mountain, to the fabled lands of the Jade Sea, to Asshai by the Shadow, where dragons stirred beneath the sunrise."'''
Everything else Bran sees in his dreams are things that are happening at that very moment. At this point in the story, Danaerys had yet to hatch her dragon eggs, yet Bran sees dragons stirring beneath the sunrise. I don't think that was just thrown in for flavor, I believe that dragons other than Dany's are still living in the mysterious Asshai by the shadow.
* In that context, "stirred" could be used in a past tense to refer to the fact that dragons had once stirred there, but no longer do currently.
[[WMG: Olyvar will play the role of the Blue Bard]]
Rather than suddenly introducing a new character, Cersei will torture Olyvar instead. He already has a link established with the Tyrells, to an extent.
[[WMG: Podrick didn't have sex with those prostitutes.]]
Despite being absolutely -ahem- fascinated by these ladies, Podrick actually chose not to go on with the act, maybe because of a moral reason like Jon's or because he's a hopeless romantic or whatever. But he didn't want to tell Tyrion, so the prostitutes came up with this idea just to pull Tyrion's leg (and the whole town's, for that matter). That's why they told Ros the experience was "hard to describe" because there was nothing to describe, and of course because they wanted to keep the mystery. And think about it, if so many prostitutes were dying to sleep with Pod for free, what would keep him from visiting one every once in a while, which we never see him doing? I know the fact that it wasn't shown on screen doesn't have to mean it didn't happen, but then why would he still get so utterly captivated by the elastic lady's body that he gets totally lost looking at her.
[[WMG: The Night's King will be the one behind [[spoiler: Lady Stoneheart]].]]
A change from the books, but it will be used to show the White Walkers ''aren't'' taking their game and gaining influence in Westeros. This goes with the theory that the Night's King [[spoiler:is connected to the Starks, and thus, he'd be using Stoneheart!Lady Stark as his proxy.]]
[[WMG: GRRM created the word "Khaleesi" by warping "Colossus"]]
Listen to the Game Grumps near the end of episode 10 in their Shadow of the Colossus Let's Play.
[[WMG: Braavos will eventually be conquered by some family to cancel their debts and seize the Iron Bank's gold.]]
* The Iron Bank will be revealed to be a massive fraud. They only have gold plated iron bars in their bank.
** Why do you think they are called the Iron Bank rather than the Gold Bank?
** Foreshadowed by the "Richest" man in Qarth story line.
** The Iron Bank isn't rich because they have lots of physical gold in their vaults, but because of all the debts owed to them across the world. That is not fraud, but capitalism. Whether they also have a large reserve of gold or not is irrelevant.
** Invading Bravos will be extremely difficult due to all the natural barriers surrounding the city, and it being the home of the Faceless Men. Not to mention the Iron Bank can easily gain allies by paying them off or cancelling their debts.
[[WMG: Melissandre was never a slave]]
The story she tells Gendry is word by word the same told by the red priestess in Volantis to the slave crowd. Evidently, it is a pre-written speech that red priests tell to people to gain their trust, and has nothing to do with reality.
** Slaves are hardly a rare species in Essos, and it makes sense that the Red God would be popular among several freed slaves since the Priesthood is more social mobility then they can get anywhere else. In the books, a POV chapter confirms she was indeed a slave and bought at an auction. The TV show could tell us something different anyway so who knows.
[[WMG:Daario is behind the Sons of the Harpy]]
Daario was instrumental in conquering Yunkai and Meereen for Dany. However, ever since he got in her bed he has done nothing but hurting her position.
'''Daario lived in Meereen before Daenerys came'''. He used to be a slave in the Fighting Pits, the ones Dany closed after taking the city, where he gained skills, fame, money and his freedom. Daario boasts that his Second Sons blend into the Meereenese easily. This is because many of them are likely Meereneese themselves, veterans of the Fighting Pits like him. Then come out of nowhere the Sons of the Harpy, this mysterious group that also blends easily in the Meereneese, wants the city to be like it was before Dany (including reopening the Fighting Pits) and whose members are armed and trained in close combat. Why? Because the Second Sons ''are'' the Sons of the Harpy!
'''The Son of the Harpy arrested was a patsy'''. He was arrested by ''Daario'', when the Unsullied were about to leave the place. Other than hearsay from the Second Sons, the only evidence that he was the Son of the Harpy that had killed White Rat was that he had a bronze mask with him. However, Dany only knew that the Sons of the Harpy had killed White Rat because the guy who did it left a bronze mask over his body. The guy was wearing only one mask, so if he left it on White Rat he shouldn't have one when Daario arrested him. Furthermore, Daario prevents Dany's council from interrogating the prisoner arguing that he has interrogated him himself and has found that he has no useful information. We have no evidence of this but Daario's word.
'''Daario offers the worst advice.''' He wants Dany to reopen the Fighting Pits, a symbol of life in Meereen when it was controlled by the Masters. He wants her to release the dragons after they killed a child, even though she can't control them and one of them is still on the run. He was all for going to war with Yunkai again and killing the masters that did not bow last season, but Jorah talked her out of it. He executed Mossador, and he did it quick without giving her a chance to reconsider even though it was obvious that the crowd was getting pissed. And finally...
'''Daario pressed Barristan to leave the Great Pyramid for no apparent reason.''' By ''sheer coincidence'', the Sons of the Harpy attack just then and leave Grey Worm and Barristan grievously injured.
Why does he do this? Well, if Dany leaves Meereen the Unsullied do as well, if she's killed they are left with no reason to stay either. Who's left to assume control of Meereen? The Second Sons, with Daario at their head.
** I think we can safely call this jossed after episode 9. If Daario ''was'' with the Sons, he passed up multiple golden opportunities to either kill her or let her die, and they were trying just as hard to kill him as anyone else. Sure, you could argue that they got dangerously close to killing her on his watch, but the unsullied failed to spot the Harpies, either, and Daario isn't responsible for them.
** Also, the show doesn't portray ''all'' of Daario's advice as the worst, even if you consider it to be. Tyrion backs up opening the fighting pits as a good concession on her part, for instance. And if she had taken Daario's advice and "cleared" the city of the Sons of the Harpy district by district instead of playing Dragon Roulette with Meereen's nobles, the attack at the arena might not have happened.
[[WMG:Olenna will engineer Cersei's downfall.]]
Since she's far more adept at playing the long game than Cersei, Olenna will undoubtedly manipulate the Sparrows into turning against Cersei.
* Semi-confirmed, Littlefinger, working with her, brought Lancel to the attention of the High Sparrow, who proceeded to arrest Cersei on the charge of incest.
[[WMG:Theon has a bastard son.]]
The son's mother is the daughter of the captain of the ship which took Theon to the Iron Isles. Theon will eventually become King of the Iron Islands and will aid the Starks in the wars. This ironically is the reason he was originally sent there.
[[WMG:Bran has been warging into Drogon]]
Even though Bran was confirmed to not appear in season 5, he was told in the season 4 finale that "he would never walk again, but he would fly". Thus far in season 5, Drogon has been acting uncharacteristically flighty. Season 4 established him as being the most aggressive of the dragons, in addition to being responsible for the carnage that Rhaegal and Viserion were locked up for.
So what caused the change in Drogon's mood? Why appear meek to Daenerys after the riot in Mereen, and then simply take off without causing mass chaos as he'd done before? Why is Drogon just flying around, even going as far south as Valyria? He might be following his instincts, or it might be Bran flying with him.
[[WMG: Tyene and Bronn will be an item]]
She thinks he's handsome, and he will admire her for bring him as close to death as he's ever come. To take it a step further, he will stay in Dorne with her. With Tyrion gone, and Lollys engaged to someone else, he has no reason to return to King's Landing. And it would be funny after all his comments about the Dornish being crazy.
** Alternatively Tyene will take on the role of Arianne and tempt Bronn to kidnap or kill Myrcella. Forcing Bronn to become both Arys Oakheart and Darkstar at the same time and be killed by Jaime.
[[WMG: Season 6 will have a Holy War]]
The power brokers of Kings Landing will take note of the religious revival of Rhillorism and the arrival of Dany, as well as the Old Gods and tell the Sparrows to go and fight the new religions. This will get the Sparrows and the Faith Militant off to fight a religious war in winter citing them as a ConflictKiller.
[[WMG: The Night's King will not feature in the Novels.]]
* The Showrunners decided to introduce him as one of their divergences from the books, and he is not something they got from their insider knowledge that Martin's given them. Rather, they lifted the idea from Creator/GreenRonin's invented White Walker/Other big bad, the King of Winter, tweaking the concept a bit to call him the Night's King to make him more recognizable to book readers.
* Partly confirmed. George RR Martin stated that he intended the Night's King to be a made up in-universe story, and intends it to be a legend and not TheLegendOfChekhov.
[[WMG: Tormund just [[spoiler: accidentally killed Mance.]]]]
* [[spoiler: Melissandre actually DID switch Mance and Rattleshirt, and somehow managed to get him to Hardhome. Then [[ShaggyDogStory Tormund killed the person he THOUGHT was Rattleshirt, but actually killed Mance instead.]]]] Because that would be hilarious.
[[WMG: The White Walkers are symbolism for global warming]]
* A major, weather-related threat to the World knocking at its door that its leaders are largely ignoring so they can focus on petty political squabbles instead, some of them even claiming it's only a legend despite all the evidence to the contrary, dismissing the people warning them about it and only acting in a very superficial manner by putting a vestigial group of people in charge of fixing it, without actually giving them the means to do so. Of course, in the case of Game of Thrones, it's more like Global Freezing/Zombification, but you get the idea.
** Confirmed to a point. WordOfGod said that it didn't occur to him at the time but he does accept that it has {{Applicability}} to it now.
[[WMG:Anyone Can Die will play a role in the White Walker storyline]]
* If the White Walkers defeat the Night's Watch and Widlings, they cross the Wall and start reviving the characters who have died since the beginning of the series as wights. Most of the character's deaths have pushed plotlines forward, but it would be interesting if all the dead characters in Westeros come back to fight for the White Walkers. The living characters of each House in Westeros put aside their vendettas, political scrabbles, and greed to team up against the White Walkers. If they do not team up, all of Westeros will be screwed.They are forced to ally with Dany Targaryen since she has dragon's fire breathing powers to take out the White Walkers. It would be great way to end the series since it has been building up all these tangled stroylines to diverge into one epic final battle.
[[WMG: Ramsay Snow is the real hero]]
Since the showrunners have an absolute man crush on Bolton and elevate him into ridiculous levels of VillainSue via AdaptationalBadass, he's going to rape and marry Dany, secretly be Azor Ahai, defeat the Night's King in single combat without a Valyrian steel sword, rise to the Iron Throne and be given a lifelong pardon by the High Sparrow and the Old Gods to rape and hunt women for the rest of his life with all impunity.
* At the end of Season 5, he's well on his way to his destiny, outfitted with PlotArmor.
** [[spoiler:Jossed gloriously by his KarmicDeath at the hands of Sansa.]]
[[WMG:Hizdahr really was the leader of the Sons of the Harpy.]]
Hizdahr was the original leader of the Sons of the Harpy, and he formed the group as a way to try and force Daenerys to restore Meereen's old traditions. However, it soon became a case of GoneHorriblyRight. After Hizdahr achieved his objectives of restoring the pit fights with becoming Daenerys' husband as a bonus, the rest of the Sons of the Harpy began to see his marriage as a betrayal to them. During the pit fight, when Hizdahr returns from making "preparations", he was really making sure the Sons of the Harpy were ready to attack in case Daenerys reneged on her promise. However, the Sons of the Harpy took the chance to betray and eliminate Hizdahr.
[[WMG: Arya's unnamed roommate is actually the new faceless-Arya]]
In a {{FightClub}} -esque {{MindScrew}},the Arya we've been seeing is just the part of her that is still clinging to her "Arya Stark" identity, and the other girl is her new alter-ego (or, non-ego) -- the part that is succeeding at becoming "nobody".
[[WMG: The Iron Throne is important but not for the reason everybody thinks.]]
One theory about Valyrian steel is that it is iron forged by dragon's breath. All the swords of the iron throne were transmuted into Valyrian steel when they were "forged in the fiery breath of Balerion the Dread." Valyrian steel is one of the few things that can kill a White Walker.
[[WMG: Alternative to the above, in Season 6 Cersei will have her maester revive Myrcella like he did with Gregor]]
The boat will arrive to King's Landing, and Jaime or Trystane will sadly carry Myrcella to her childhood home. Cersei will deny the possibility to bury her, and possibly the First Sparrow would refuse Myrcella at the sept anyways. So Qyburn will step in to aid his Queen once again, and revive Myrcella for Cersei. Obviously this will be bad, and it doesn't circumvent the childhood prophecy given to Cersei at the start of season 5. But how bad? No idea, knock yourselves out.
* She'll end up being basically an undead, female Joffrey. Sweet dreams.
[[WMG: In season 6, Daario and Jorah will do some things that got cut out of Tyrion's and Jorah's story in season 5]]
They will join a sellsword company working for Yunkai (possibly the Golden Company), and will try to make them switch sides.
[[WMG: Sam will rediscover the process of smithing Valyrian steel]]
Seems possible.
[[WMG: Jon Snow's suspected parentage, the necessity of royal blood for Melisandre's magic and him getting stabbed to death are going to add up to something]]
Insert obligatory "R+L=J" comment.
[[WMG: The Mad King wasn't really mad]]
* He had good reasons for burning his enemies alive since they were demons who could only be killed by fire.
[[WMG: Sansa's statement in the last episode of season 5 that "I know WHAT Ramsay is" was significant foreshadowing.]]
* The "incredible plans" he had for Sansa's lady parts was to transplant them to Theon thereby making Theon literally his bitch.
[[WMG: If Jaime returns to King's Landing, he will found out about Cersei's fornication and dump her]]
Face it, he'll learn eventually that Cersei slept with Lancel. There's likely no chance that he'll forgive her for cheating on him and will not be her champion once Cersei calls for a trial by combat for her crimes. With that, Ser Robert Strong will take his place as Cersei's champion.
[[WMG: Melisandre does not serve the Red God]]
* She is simply a powerful witch who has deluded herself into thinking that she does. Her blood magic allows her to fake divine miracles and her gift of The Sight allows her to be aware of the Red God's prophecies, but she is not a true acolyte and thus her visions come without wisdom. She manufactured the Azor Ahai as Stannis Barathion out of a need for there to be one and due to her flawed visions when she should have sought-out Beric Dondarrion.
[[WMG: Dany will learn to fight]]
Let's face it, after the shit in Meereen it's pretty clear she needs to learn how to defend herself effectively, especially if she still intends to take Westeros. My best guess here is that she'll either learn a Dothraki fighting style in honor of Khal Drogo or have one of the Unsullied teach her. The reasoning being that the knghts that she will be battling will be unfamiliar with those styles of combat
[[WMG:Doran approves of the death of Myrcella and is using Jamie for the Fire and Blood plot]]
Seen this brought up. Doran approaves of the death of Myrcella as revenge for the murder of Elia by The Mountain, not for the death of Oberyn. The ship Jaime and Bronn are on is a Martell ship and thus both men will be held captive as it travels to Mareen. The plan is for Trystane to offer a marriage alliance with Dany and Jamie is a 'wedding present'
* Jossed. Doran is not book!Doran who is TheChessmaster and doesn't know about the poisoning until he got Jaime's latter. Also Jaime and Bronn went back to King's Landing with Myrcella's body. And it's unlikely that there's going to be an alliance with Dany since Trystane is gone.
[[WMG:House Reyne was founded by a Lannister bastard]]
Their House was founded by a Lannister bastard named Rain. Rain was a bastard's named at the time. For some reason they were able to found a house. They changed their name to Reyne. The Lannisters despised them, for they had similar wealth and even took the lion on their coat of arms. The destruction of the house was mainly out of spite.
[[WMG: Stannis wasn't himself when he sacrificed Shireen.]]
Melisandre used one of her concoctions on him to make him lose his better judgement.
[[WMG: Sansa is already pregnant by Ramsay.]]
Of course she is. Because nothing good can ever happen to her.
[[WMG: Stannis will get a posthumous dying grace]]
Shipments of dragonglass will begin coming into the Night's Watch from Dragonstone, Stannis having sent word for such before he left Castle Black.
[[WMG: Brienne will have a KarmicDeath for murdering Stannis]]
* She might end up being killed by one of his supporters, like Davos.
[[WMG: Dany will find common cause with the Martells]]
* Tellingly, in her conversation with Tyrion leading up to her "Break the wheel" speech, neither Dorne nor the Martells are brought up. Indeed, given how neither were really involved in either Robert's Rebellion or the War of the Five Kings, it'd make sense that she would find no reason to strike at them. But given their mutual distrust with the rest of Westeros, it'd make sense that she might at least find them convenient allies.
[[WMG: Yara Greyjoy will become captain of the Iron Fleet]]
The series has been streamlining the narrative by eliminating and conflating minor characters. One casualty of this is going to be Victarion Greyjoy. Instead, Yara -- who is clearly not going to be captured by Stannis at this point in the narrative -- will take his role leading the Ironborn to Essos.
[[WMG: Stannis is now a RevenantZombie CursedWithAwesome.]]
This theory first came to me when I was wondering how Stannis, and Stannis alone, survived that battle. My answer: he didn't. The Lord of Light intervened after the battle and brought him back, unaided by any priest (magic is getting stronger, remember). However, this isn't because he's Azor Ahai. Accepting that the Lord of Light is a GoodIsNotNice god, burning Shireen could very well have been a SecretTestOfCharacter that Stannis royally screwed the pooch on. Now the Lord of Light has made him unkillable to prolong his suffering. Season 6 will open with Brienne hacking him to pieces again and again, and the pieces reassembling themselves, until she feels better.
[[WMG: The Lightbringer is going to look like [[http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Shishkebab_(Fallout_3)?file=F3Shish01.jpg this]]]]
...well probably not, but that would simply be the most awesome thing ever. Matti23
[[WMG: The Boltons' flaming flayed man is...]]
Stannis. The sight of a flayed stag seen ever-so-briefly in the Telltale game was shrewd foreshadowing of the highest degree. Things seem to be turning in direction of a second attempt at reclaiming Winterfell, by a host that seems likely to include poor Davos. The fire is ironic mockery on par with what was done with Robb's corpse... "Here comes the Son of Fire!" With what we know of the Boltons' "treatment" of prisoners, it seems like Stannis was lucky to go out the way he did...
[[WMG: Blackfish will be a CompositeCharacter to Lady Stoneheart and Wyman Manderly]]
He might be the one who will hang the Freys with a possible alliance with the Brotherhood Without Banners and [[spoiler:make those Frey pies and offer them to Jaime]].
[[WMG: Arya will learn to warg]]
Since she got blinded, Arya would ended up discovering her warg powers when she starts having dreams of her inside her direwolf, Nymeria, who is hunting in the Riverlands. This would become useful in her training as a Faceless Man.
[[WMG: The Wildings will take over the Dreadfort]]
And they'll settle in Bolton lands, eventually.
[[WMG: The Night's Watch will collapse]]
The Night's Watch will be yet again divided between the mutineers loyal to Ser Alliser and those who ultimately remained loyal to Jon (i.e. Edd). After a struggle that will most likely happen if Jon gets resurrected, Jon & company will be forced to desert/flee Castle Black and take refuge with the Wildlings while the mutineers take over Castle Black. Jon will shift his focus towards taking the North back from the Boltons, while the Night's Watch will end up becoming the first victims of the White Walkers south of the wall.
[[WMG: The entire Dorne arc is executed poorly by design]]
Because what with the death of Shae (who was cast for similar reasons) at the end of season four, they had no big players to distract viewers from Emilia Clarke's poor acting by means of comparison (the fact that her arc progression had slowed down to a crawl around this time didn't help). Enter the Sand Snakes, hapless ''Xena'' rejects whose godlike levels of cringe could make Megan Fox look like Helen Mirren. As a consequence, they'll stick around until someone worse comes along... at which point, the White Walkers might as well come and end it all. It is known...
[[WMG: The Harpy will be...]]
...either a choice between Daario/Missandei/Varys. Since the show is going ahead of the books and making drastic changes and the context of Meereen's society is not properly developed. The show will go for the simpler Murder Mystery plot and have things NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize especially since Hizdahr is dead and presented as a Red Herring. The Harpy is well organized, effective and operates with inside knowledge. The only ones who fit and have the required narrative heft to pull this off is Daario or Varys or Missandei. What are their motives?
# Varys manufactured the Harpy to manipulate Daenerys into the ruler he wants her to be, to play the role he needs her to fulfill. He's manipulated from the background since Season 1 and obviously he has to have some big game and payoff to compensate for TheReveal at the end of Book 5 which has been AdaptedOut. Him being the Harpy will prove how this ApparentlyPowerlessPuppetmaster has been TheOmniscient all along.
# Missandei is a long-shot but needs to be included simply because she's a named Essosi character with an ambiguous future role. She has inside information on Dany, is incredibly smart and sharp. She's also the one who convinces Dany to marry Hizdahr. The reason she manufactured the Harpy is that she doesn't want her to go to Westeros, she's a PossessionSue who wants Mhysa to stay in Slaver's Bay forever.
# Daario has always been a bad boy. In Season 3, he single-handedly hijacked the Second Sons, and helped Dany take over a city. He's also the man in charge of the Meereen City Watch. Pretty well organized and military man who was also in charge of security at the Fighting Pits when all those Harpy Men marched into the crowds. He had means, he had opportunity. As for motivations...he's Daario, who cares.
[[WMG: Brienne will give Oathkeeper to Sansa]]
And she will use it to personally END HOUSE BOLTON.
[[WMG: Melissandre's vision of Jon Snow fighting in Winterfell will come true]]
With Jon's resurrection, her vision will come true. But in a different way than we think. It is made clear that the Starks and Bolton's will battle, but from the looks of things from the trailers, they won't be fighting at Winterfell. I believe that the vision foreshadows a Stark victory (supported by the newly arrived army from the Vale), and the vision of Jon fighting at Winterfell will be him and his army killing Ramsay and the few Bolton troops he has left.
[[WMG: Resurrected Jon will be a CompositeCharacter with Lady Stoneheart]]
Hence why Lady Stoneheart was cut out; two Starks returned fom the dead and out for revenge would be a bit much. And it seems like the sort of thing the show would do: they'll bring back everyone's fave and one of the few genuinely good people in Westeros... but when he comes back, he's not himself anymore.
[[WMG: Nymeria Sand will die in Season 6 because of her actress’ commitment to ''Series/IronFist2016'']]
Since Jessica Henwick is cast as one of the main leads in the Marvel Netflix show, it’s possible that Nymeria might die at some point in Season 6. Similar to the books, she will be in King’s Landing; however, she might be there to kidnap or kill someone (maybe Tommen, Kevan, Pycelle etc.). Then, she encounters Ser Robert Strong who will kill her in possibly the most brutal way (maybe similar to how her father died or not). Of course, Finn Jones is also cast as Comicbook/IronFist but he didn’t say if Loras will not survive Season 6.
[[WMG: Ellaria does not have full control of Dorne]]
Seriously, why would everyone (and I mean, everyone) in Dorne would follow a bastard woman who is not a Martell or not even married to Martell? There are probably some Dornish houses who are still loyal to Doran (maybe House Yronwood or House Tolland) and they wouldn’t forgive Ellaria for murdering their liege lord and ordered the Sand Snakes to commit kinslaying. It’s possible that there would be a civil war in Dorne and since Ellaria is not as smart as Littlefinger or Tywin, she might get overthrown.
[[WMG: Either Lord Karstark or Smalljon Umber will conspire against Ramsay and arrange Sansa to marry one of them]]
While they seem to ally with Ramsay for now, it might not last due to their own ambitions and Ramsay is a psychotic murderer. And rather than kill Sansa, it might be better to have her widowed and be eligible to marry one of them and then have control of the North legitimately. That is if they find her and convince her to go along with the plan.
[[WMG: Kevan Lannister and Pycelle will be killed on orders from Qyburn in the adaptation.]]
This happens by way of [[spoiler:Varys]] in the books. Since he's elsewhere, he's replaced (by the writers on a meta level and by the Lannisters in-universe) with Qyburn. [[spoiler:Qyburn has already been shown turning Varys's 'little birds' to his side.]] The motives will also be different. [[spoiler:Varys was working in an attempt to destabilize the Lannisters, possibly opening the door for (fake?) Aegon.]] In this case, it will be on Cersei's orders, which will obviously leave an open spot on the Council, where Cersei will advise Tommen to name the most "natural" replacement for the position - Jaime Lannister. This will allow the 'Royal Family' to essentially rule together as King, Queen Mother, and King's Hand. (Of course, Tommen actually being a pretty nice guy and this being Game of Thrones and all, things will quickly find a way to go to hell in a handbasket by the following episode.)
* In s06e08, Varys makes a journey to King's Landing, leaving Mereen in the hands of Tyrion. Perhaps the show will follow the books in this way after all.
[[WMG: Jon Snow will join the White Walkers.]]
After losing everything he ever believed in, and then being killed by people he thought he could trust, he's finally had enough of everyone and everything. Season 6 will end with him kneeling before the Night's King and offering his sword in service to wiping Westeros clean.
[[WMG: Someone will take over Casterly Rock from the Lannisters and isolate them to the Crownlands.]]
* They've got Tommen "Baratheon" on the throne and all, which is great for them, but who's got control of Casterly Rock right now?
** Tywin's dead.
** Tyrion (the legal heir, no matter how much Tywin hated it) is expatriated to Essos and basically in a steward role for Meereen in Daenerys' absence.
** Jaime's in King's Landing - and as Kingsguard, gave up his claim to Casterly Rock anyway.
** Kevan (Tywin's brother, next in line after Jaime and Tyrion) is serving as Hand of the King, also in KL. [[spoiler: And if the books are anything to go by, probably won't live to see Casterly Rock again.]]
** Lancel - who would be at least interim Lord of Casterly Rock as Kevan's son while Kevan served as hand, is also busy in KL raising seven hells as part of the Faith Militant. (And implicitly gives no fucks about the fact that he could actually have a legal right to rule Casterly Rock right now.)
** Hell, even Alton, Stafford, Martyn and Willem Lannister are all dead.
* Most likely candidates:
** The Iron Islands. Whoever ends up as the King of the Iron Islands could very well elect to make it their first target. In fact, if you pull up a map of Westeros, Casterly Rock is actually one of the closest things ''to'' the Iron Islands. And clearly with some recent developments, it's obvious that their part in the greater story isn't done yet. [[spoiler: Also Euron Greyjoy, if he wins the Kingsmoot or even if he plays second fiddle to someone else, seems just the type to be crazy enough to pull this sort of stunt.]]
** Dorne. Remember, Dorne's never really liked the Tyrells ''or'' the Lannisters [[labelnote:In the books...]]The Martell family had a grudge against the Tyrells because Oberyn Martell crippled Willas Tyrell's leg in a tourney some years back. In the series, it could probably just be explained away as the fact that the Tyrells took up with the Lannisters just to get Margeary on the throne.[[/labelnote]], and could well declare war on the somewhat weakened alliance and make a push for Casterly Rock. There are still obviously things to be done at first.
** The Tyrells could always stab the Lannisters in the back. The Reach geographically sits between the Crownlands and the Westerlands anyway, and they've got the pull to ''really'' put what's left of the Lannisters in a tough spot.
*** With [[spoiler: the very much unconverted Margaery's insistence that Olenna return to High Garden, this may very well be what she is planning]]
* Whoever does take it over will also discover [[spoiler:that the region's gold mines are empty and thus the Lannisters aren't nearly as wealthy as they were in the past.]]
[[WMG: The Children of the Forest underestimated the White Walkers' powers when they created them.]]
It's possible the Children believed that possessing [[KryptoniteFactor dragonglass weapons]] would be enough to keep the White Walkers on a leash. And maybe it worked for a while. Then the White Walkers figured out how to make wights...
[[WMG: Dragonglass has mystical properties that absorb heat]]
The Children created the first White Walker by pushing a dragonglass dagger into a man's chest, which is why White Walkers look like frozen dessicated corpses. The reason dragonglass weapons can kill them instantly is because they rob the White Walkers of what little body heat they still have, completely turning them into ice. Valyrian steel may have similar properties, which may also explain why it's so difficult to work it.
[[WMG: The White Walkers also absorb heat and need it to survive]]
This is the reason why flames go out when they approach and why normal weapons freeze and shatter on contact. The reason their home territory North Beyond the wall is perpetually frozen over is because the White Walkers keep draining the environment and atmosphere of its heat. They also have the power to create more of their kind by draining heat from newborns similar to how the Children first created them by draining heat from humans with dragonglass. This might even explain why they are invading with the advent of the Long Winter. During the other Long Seasons there's still enough ambient heat in the world to keep them alive without major effort on their part. But it's so cold during Winter that the White Walkers have no choice but to go on the hunt for as much heat and/or life just to survive.
[[WMG: The Night's King uses newborns to make White Walkers for a reason]]
The reason he creates new White Walkers from newborns isn't because he can't do the same to adults. He ''can'', but it's too risky. He knows firsthand how badly [[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters turning someone who hates you into a powerful living weapon]] can end. By using newborns instead, he can raise his soldiers to be loyal to him and to him alone.
[[WMG: Just like Joffrey was an {{Expy}} to Aerys II, Tommen will become one to Baelor "the Blessed" Targaryen.]]
[[spoiler: As episode 6-6 shows, he's already been swayed by the High Sparrow toward religious fanaticism.]] This will result in, among other things, the formerly, erm... [[HormoneAddledTeenager excitable]] Tommen becoming suddenly very chaste toward Margeary. He may not go quite to the extreme of his predecessor as far as [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny locking Margeary in a dungeon to avoid being tempted]], but this new attitude might prove slightly problematic as far as producing an heir goes. And if[=/=]when he dies, that'll set the stage for all seven hells to break loose in Westeros. From a legal standpoint, he's the last Baratheon left.
[[WMG: Dany fed her new white horse to Drogon.]]
She rides off to make peace with Drogon (off-screen), but her horse never comes back. She also would have no use for a horse if she can ride a ''dragon''. It also would serve as symbolism, rejecting the cultures of Essos by bonding with her house's "sigil".
[[WMG: The Waif wasn't lying about being highborn.]]
She may have belonged to one of House Stark's rival houses (possibly the Freys, who have so many members that a missing granddaughter would hardly be noticed) and fled or got smuggled out sometime around the Red Wedding, which would explain her weirdly personal dislike of Arya.
[[WMG: The Arya that the Waif stabbed in "The Broken Man" wasn't really her.]]
This is not my own theory, but something I saw on message board, and saw worthwhile to put on record. The Arya we see in this episode acts uncharacteristically bold for the same character who in the last episode camped in some underground tunnel, her back against the wall, sword at hand. She throws money around like it was no big deal, even though Arya has never been interested in excessive luxury. And most notably of all, she doesn't have the Needle on her, even though she should be ready for a fight at any time. So, put together from all this, she is actually another Faceless Man wearing glamour, her job to prove that the Waif is breaking the code of their order, just like Arya, by getting personally invested in a murder.
* Jossed. Arya is really Arya and the Waif really chased her.
[[WMG: The Mountain will kill Tommen in a Trial by Combat.]]
Why else would they be setting up Tommen as a fanatic of the Faith, unless it was to later have him represent them when Cersei gets her trial by combat?
Tommen declares himself the Champion of the Faith, sure that the Gods are on his side, Cersei watches in horror as her foolproof plan of 'sic the Mountain on whoever the Faith chooses and insta win' falls apart spectacularly, Gregor cuts him down and Cersei's prophecy is one step closer to fulfilled.
[[WMG: Tommen will be convinced to do the above by Margaery.]]
The most recent episode or two has shown that there's a plan of some sort afoot. Also, Margaery's tactics have changed; whereas in the beginning of their engagement and subsequent marriage, she basically controlled Tommen with her sex appeal, it's now been noted that she hasn't been to bed with him since the Faith released her. This may indicate that the plan involves Tommen being sexually frustrated (so Margaery can get him to do something stupid). Or it could mean that Margaery wants to avoid any chance of getting pregnant by Tommen - perhaps because Tommen's death effectively finishes the Royal Family if he has no heir.
[[WMG: Alternatively, the Mountain will kill ''himself'' in the above fight on Cersei's orders and Cersei will essentially sacrifice herself to save Tommen.]]
Unfortunately, this will push Tommen over the edge and the final parts of the series will portray his descent into Madness, setting ''him'' up as the Aerys {{Expy}} and not Joffrey. [[labelnote:In the books...]]Remember, Aerys started as a sane, decent king, but a rebellion and a long-term imprisonment caused him to emerge with paranoia and significant psychological damage.[[/labelnote]]
[[WMG: Bran is the cause of the Mad King's insanity.]]
That flash of the Mad King crying "Burn them all!" in Bran's flashback reel was there for a reason. During one of his episodes, something goes horribly wrong and Bran and King Aerys encounter the White Walkers and the wights. Something in the vision will involve the words "Burn them all!", likely in reference to setting wights on fire. Bran and Aerys escape the vision eventually, but Aerys [[GoMadFromTheRevelation is driven mad by the experience]] and can no longer distinguish between the vision and reality, leading him to his infamous mania for burning everyone, thinking they are wights.
* So, you're saying that Bran also made Aerys insane when he had Ned's brother Brandon tied on a noose while he slowly roasted Lord Rickard Stark? Or when he abused and raped his wife according to the History and Lore on the Kingsguard?
[[WMG: Rickon will die, and it will indirectly cause the White Walker invasion]]
Why? Because Bran.
Most fans seem to believe Rickon will die during the Battle of the Bastards, and that the Starks will reclaim Winterfell. But if so, what then? As far as anyone knows, the Starks are left with no trueborn male heirs. Their options are Sansa, Ned Stark's last known legitimate child, but a woman and one who married into both the family they just took Winterfell back from and the much despised Lannisters, and Jon, a bastard whose greatest support comes from Wildlings, who much of the North (if not all Seven Kingdoms) despise. The chances of either of them being able to unite the North behind their authority seem low.
There's also the question of Jon's legitimacy: they might find a will from Robb Stark that legitimises him, but any will found three years after its author's death is going to be suspect and prone to accusations of forgery. Besides: the North is tired, exhausted itself in one great war that accomplished nothing but getting them taken over by {{CompleteMonster}}s. There's no way to claim Jon's legitimisation is, um, legitimate without claiming Robb Stark was in fact the rightful king, and hence restarting the campaign against the Iron Throne.
Half of the North will be all for this, and believing they'll need a strong Warrior King, uncompromised by his political alliances, will throw their support behind Jon. The other half, desperately wanting to avoid war, will throw their support behind Sansa. Sansa and Jon will be horrified by this and maintain they can rule together, but factions will develop nonetheless, almost pushing the North into civil war, with a few Bolton remnants screwing things up even more.
In the middle of this, Bran will get a vision showing him Rickon's death, and the state of the North afterwards. He'll be guilt-stricken, since it was he who willingly left Rickon and who told Rickon the Umbers would protect him, when they sold him over to Ramsay. Bran will see that the North has turned into a powderkeg, and decide the only way to avoid it boiling over into another war that could get one or both of his remaining siblings killed, is for [[RightfulKingReturns the rightful Lord to return]].
However, he's still marked by the Night King, and going back past the wall runs the risk of the White Walkers coming with him. It'll be one of those love-or-honour [[SadisticChoice choices]] that the Gods love throwing at the Starks. Either Bran won't be sure whether his mark applies just to the cave or all magic protecting men from the White Walkers, and decide to risk it, or he'll rationalise that they're coming anyway no matter what he does. Either way, a trueborn son of Ned Stark will return to Winterfell – [[FromBadToWorse with a massive army of ice zombies on his tail.]]
[[WMG: The High Sparrow's plan involves telling Tommen of his true heritage]]
Given everything he knows about Cersei, chances are the High Sparrow believes the rumours about her and Jaime, and will use them. He'll wait until he's more confident he has Tommen completely under his thumb, and then 'prove' (possibly with faked evidence, since I can't see what real evidence there would be pre-DNA) that he is in fact Jaime and Cersei's child. This will motivate Tommen to either abdicate (as his claim to the throne is illegitimate) or, more grimly and in line with Cersei's prophecy, [[DrivenToSuicide commit suicide]] (as in the eyes of the Faith he is an abomination). Either way, this will trigger a SuccessionCrisis, as with the deaths of Stannis, Shireen and Renly, there are no legal Baratheon heirs left until you start digging through distant cousins. The High Sparrow will step into this power vacuum, claiming the nobles have proven themselves unable and unworthy to rule. He might even have Tommen declare him heir. The commonfolk will rally to him and the nobility will be horrified, but they won't have any one candidate they can all rally around in response.
* What will screw up his plan? Daenerys. She will show up with her dragons and the nobility, assuming they can transfer their positions of power into a Targaryen restoration much the same way they did between the reigns of Aerys and Robert, will support her over a man whose life's ambition seems to be tearing them down. This will leave Dany in a bind, after having constructed her identity as a ruler as a liberator of the oppressed and being told most of her life the common people would support the Targaryen restoration, she will enter King's Landing with the common folk on someone else's side, and the treacherous nobles who betrayed her father her greatest source of support.
[[WMG: Dany and Yara will hook up.]]
Yara's AdaptationalSexuality came a bit out of nowhere, but it could be leading up to something. Dany is herself AmbiguouslyBi, although it's seriously downplayed compared to the books. And if Daario turns out to be the Harpy/gets killed/turns out to be the Harpy and gets killed, Dany could use Yara as a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute, at least for a time. Since Euron claimed he was going to seduce Dany [[BiggerIsBetterInBed with his big cock]], it would be ironic if she was seduced by one of the Greyjoys with no cock, and the chances of poor Theon pulling that off are... limited. (Although Dany and Theon might form a complementarily intense [[ImpliedLoveInterest emotional]] [[PlatonicLifePartners relationship]], so really she'll be seduced by both of them.)
[[WMG: The castle that Jaime promises to Edmure is [[spoiler: the Twins]].]]
Jaime has been ordered to capture Riverrun for the Freys, [[spoiler: [[LoopholeAbuse but nobody said he's supposed to let them keep their own]]]].
[[WMG: Edmure will take on Wyman Manderly's role]]
Despite being much younger and lighter of build, they have certain similarities: namely, seeming useless and and [[spoiler: having seemingly sold out to the Freys]]. The trailer shows us the Freys all celebrating something, [[spoiler: presumably retaking Riverrun]], and they're likely to Edmure and possibly his men there, [[spoiler:so Walder and his habit of EvilGloating can throw his betrayal in their face]]. However, that's as good a place for [[spoiler:Delicious Frey Pie]] to take place as any. If he manages to kill enough Freys that also puts Edmure and Rolsin's baby in a better position for the Frey SuccessionCrisis that will inevitably follow Walder's death. This could double as the Blackfish being [[HesJustHiding Just Hiding]], taking Davos's role.
[[WMG: Cersei will confess in full to spite the Sparrows]]
In direct opposition to an above WMG, the Sparrow's power grab at this point depends almost entirely on the support of the crown, and in turn, Tommon's legitimacy. A couple of seasons ago, Cersei threatened Tywin that she would reveal the truth to everyone when she felt that he was going to take control and influence over her son away from her. When it becomes absolutely clear that the Sparrow has done just that, and that Cersei has no more pull over her son at all, she will make good on that threat and reveal to the gods and the world that Tommen is a bastard born of incest, and that he has no legitimate claim on the throne, because she would rather see herself and Tommon dead than have no power over him. It fits the theme of Cersei's story that she ultimately be responsible for her own undoing and the death of the one person she cares about more than anything. Also fits, in a very metaphorical sense, with the prophecy; if Tommon dies before her, she survives all of her children, and her own death is caused by her relationship with Jaime, giving a pay off to her death being caused by her younger brother.
[[WMG: If Cersei confesses in full, that's "ok", because the Sparrows know everything]]
(variant of the "The High Sparrow's plan involves telling Tommen of his true heritage" WMG and the "Cersei will confess in full to spite the Sparrows" WMG)
* The High Sparrow is trying to get Cersei to confess everything ''herself'' during her trial, very much like when he put her on the spot with Lancel, so the Faith can remove Tommen (and Margaery, that's why he was all creep on the "go get a baby" conversation, to mark her as completely spoiled), and one of these options:
** Put ''Gendry'' in the throne. And yes, sorry, I'm implying Gendry is not rowing anymore. But I think that his "king's blood" will come into play again, even if it's highly unlikely.
** Claim Daenerys as queen thanks to Varys, who has left Mereen to get support for their cause to move on to Westeros (and there's no way he doesn't know about the High Sparrow and ''absolutely everything else'' about the throne's precarious situation; easy to connect one with the other).
** Make the Seven Kingdoms a theocracy, because that's the endgame he has been playing for all along.
** Why would they do any of this? Tommen is already a perfect puppet ruler for the High Sparrow's purposes. Replacing him with some unknown party or trying to wipe out monarchy altogether would be incredibly counterproductive to the Sparrows' plans. It's in their best interests to avoid any questions of Tommen's legitimacy, since it's his authority that they use to handle all their affairs. If Tommen hadn't saved them earlier in Season 6, then they would have been wiped out by the Tyrell forces.
[[WMG: The White Walkers are invading because [[spoiler:they are sick and tired of all the backstabbing and betrayals and suffering in Westerosi politics]].]]
[[spoiler:The Night King is one of the most benevolent rulers in the entire world. Every single one of his men follows him loyally without question, and neither he nor his men have ever once tried to harm someone who wasn't trying to harm them first. One of his White Walkers lets Sam live because he knows that Sam is an innocent who has never tried to hurt anyone in his life. The Night King and the White Walkers are only trying to do what's best for Westeros, and are trying to establish a kingdom where everyone is happy and there is no betrayal. The only reason he brings the dead back to life is because he knows that the only way he can take Westeros is with an army. But once he is actually in power, he will guide Westeros into a new age of prosperity by turning all of the backstabbing politicians into loyal ice zombies who will all work together for the good of the nobles and smallfolk alike. Then he'll bring all the characters we love back to life and everyone lives happily ever after.]]
[[WMG: The rumor Qyburn confirmed to Cersei in ''No One'' is about the coup in Dorne.]]
Cersei has a great deal of reason to care about the affairs in Dorne, and the Dorne subplot hasn't been touched since the season premiere. It may or may not factor into her plans to come, but if anyone still cares about what's going on in that part of the Seven Kingdoms, it's the mother of the late Princess Myrcella.
* Actually in "Oathbreaker", Jaime and Cersei already know about the coup in Dorne when they interrupted Kevan's small council meeting. But it's possible that the rumor Qyburn's talking about is that there's a civil war between those who are loyal to Doran and those who are loyal to the Sand Snakes.
[[WMG: The rumor Qyburn investigated is in fact the location of the Mad King's stores of wildfire.]]
Judging from Bran's visions as well as the Mad King having hidden vast amounts of wildfire all over King's Landing to destroy it, it's very possible that Qyburn found at least one of these secret wildfire storehouses and Cersei intends to use it as her trump card against the High Sparrow.
* Worth noting that in the same episode, Jaime mentions to Edmure that Cersei would burn down a city to protect her chidlren. Sounds like foreshadowing to me.
* Didn't Cersei already knew about the wildfire cache back in Season 2? Tyrion knew about it from Lancel who is sleeping with Cersei back then and he hijacked that plan so he can use it against Stannis. Unless, Qyburn found out that there's some extra wildfire...
** No. Cersei did not know about the Mad King's stashes. She knew that wilfire exists and that the Guild of Pyromancers was ready and willing to manufacture it for her. All the wildfire shown and used in Season 2 was commissioned by Cersei and manufactured recently. The Mad King's stashes are a completely different matter.
* Further foreshadowed in "Battle of the Bastards", where Tyrion recounts how Jaime had told him how the Mad King had secretly hidden huge stocks of Wildfire under every major road and landmark in King's Landing, including the Red Keep and the Great Sept of Baelor.
[[WMG: The Northern houses are reluctant to support Sansa because of [[spoiler: the Littlefinger debt scheme]]]]
The theory goes that [[spoiler: Littlefinger has put the realm in debt so he can extend credit to various houses scattered across Westeros]]. He's been calling in every favour gained this way to get the lords to drop their support for Sansa. Why? Because [[spoiler: Baelish wants to be her knight in shining armour riding to her rescue]] in the Battle of the Bastards, and this is how [[spoiler:he denies her the ability to call him out for all his bullshit and show her she needs him still]]. From day one, [[spoiler:Baelish has made it his top priority to be indispensible and always needed by his allies, even with his scheming reputation]]. [[MagnificentBastard And he's done it again]].
[[WMG: Arya has become the God of Death]]
At least this would be a more interesting theory than her simply surviving her wounds because of Plot Armor while other characters have died from much less.
[[WMG: Ser Jorah will return with a volcano arm]]
He'll find a Red Priest - possibly in Asshai by the Shadow, where Melisandre originates - and ask them to fix his greyscale. This will involve plunging his infected arm into a fire; it will emerge with charred and cracked skin, but clean of infection and possessed of superhuman strength.
[[WMG: The Slaver's Bay/Daenery's Arc is a parable for the War on Terror]]
Both conflicts see an outside force invade/liberate a far off land for the purpose of ending a horrible institution, such as terrorism or in the case of Essos, slavery. Both see initial success, but later descend into chaos and resentment starts to form against the foreign occupying force and even worse groups replace the ones that were overthrown, in our case it is ISIS, in the case of Game of Thrones, it is the Sons of the Harpy.
[[WMG: Daenerys will unite the Seven Kingdoms, but will ''not'' sit the Iron Throne at the end.]]
She believes her purpose is to rule as queen; in reality, though, it is more likely that she is simply meant to serve as a uniting force for a lot of different armies and cultures from both Essos and Westeros for the battle against the White Walkers. In the end, she'll die during that battle, probably scrificially, leaving Westeros with no one clear ruler, but a chance to move forward after the events of the last several years. (There's also a chance the Seven Kingdoms become seven actual Kingdoms again as it was before Aegon's Landing, with all Targaryens gone [[spoiler:depending on what theories you subscribe to, this could mean the end for Jon Snow as well.]]
[[WMG: Tormund will become Lord of Last Hearth, and head of the newly-created House Giantsbane]]
With the Umbers’ betrayal of House Stark, it’s unlikely that Sansa or Jon would be willing to overlook their transgression, especially after Rickon’s demise. The Wildlings are going to need a new home to settle in after everything is said and done, and considering how close Last Hearth is to the Gift and the Wall, they could very well settle in the Umber lands after House Umber is stripped of their titles for treason, and Tormund could be made the new Lord of Last Hearth.
* Although, given that such a position would put the Wildlings immediately after the Watch as the most in danger should the White Walkers actually breach the wall, it would kind of come off as the North using the Wildlings for cannon fodder. (Which is precisely why a guy like, say, Littlefinger, would suggest it.) Better options include Deepwood Motte, where the Starks could strip the Glovers for their failure to aid them against the Boltons... or the Dreadfort itself, which is conspicuously vacant of any Boltons.
* Stripping the Glovers of their land and titles seems a bit extreme, considering that they had legitimate reasons not to get involved and they were far from the only House to stay out of the conflict. However, the Karstarks are also good candidates for punishment alongside the Umbers and Boltons.
** A clearheaded ruler would probably either pardon the Glovers or make their punishment less severe, sure. But combine everything Jon and Sansa have gone through as of late with the potential influence of Littlefinger (who House Stark is now indebted to, no matter how much they may distrust him, and whom they ''certainly'' can't afford to have as an enemy) and the fact that this is [[GrayAndGreyMorality Westeros]], and there's no guarantee that the clear heads prevail.
** Giving the Wildlings ''Umber'' land seems like a bad idea, politically, because the people of The Last Hearth have been warring against Wildlings for generations. They lost more men to the Wildlings than any other Northern house. Putting a wildling in charge just feels like spiting them. Giving Tormund ''the Dreadfort'', however, there's an idea.
*** Since Wildings generally dislike the ways of ''southerners'' and ''kneelers'', it seems odd that Tormund would want to be a Lord. Tormund and the Wildings like Jon, though, and as all Stark soldiers were slaughtered in the Red Wedding, so they may simply settle around Winterfell.
[[WMG: The fates of the Northern houses in the wake of the Battle of the Bastards]]
* House Hornwood, bordering House Bolton, get roughly half Bolton lands for their loyal service.
* House Mazin, being [[CanonForeigner unique to the show]] and lacking an established location get the other half.
* House Mormont, being situated on an Island on the other side of the North, can't be granted any lands, though Glovers lands are closest to them. The Glovers might be demoted to their vassals.
* House Bolton's seat of the Dreadfort is torn down, in accordanse with Sansa's desire to wipe away all signs of them.
* Lord Karstark executed, his officers made to take the black.
* Umber officers made to take the black.
* Both Umbers and Karstarks allowed to retain their lands and titles, on condition that they renew fealty to Winterfell and send one of their own to stay at Winterfell.
[[WMG: Jon will found a noble house]]
He will be granted lands and take in the Wildings as his vassals. In a MythologyGag, he will adopt the Umbers' book sigil, a roaring giant, for his own, in memory of Wun Wun.
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[[WMG: Drogon didn't burn that child in Season 4, the Sons of the Harpy did.]]
* They burnt the child because they knew suspicion would fall on Daenarys' dragons, forcing her to lock them up, thereby driving a wedge between Daenarys and her dragons so that they would be less trusting of her and willing to aid her in battle against the Sons of the Harpy.
* That scene where Drogon killed that goat is an obvious RedHerring since we see him in action as "the black shadow" and burning that goat. But even there, Drogon deliberately flies away from that child focusing only on the goat. It's clear there that Daenerys trained him well to leave humans unless she commands it. That burnt skeleton could either be faked or from an already dead child, burnt in the pyre. As to who did that?
* Other potential suspects: Hizdahr, the Meereenese ruling party or probably Tywin Lannister who sends letters to Meereen, we see him "out" Jorah's former treachery to Dany, he's not beyond killing children, and it is the kind of manipulative trick he'd pull to force Dany to imprison her own dragons.
[[WMG: The series finale will air in 2017.]]
The series finale is mentioned in the ''Series/ParksAndRecreation'' episode "Leslie and Ron," which takes place 2017.
[[WMG: The Targaryen Olenna had originally been engaged to was Maester Aemon]]
* Considering how striking she must have been when she was young and how Maester Aemon still seems to have feelings for her, it would be a very sad WhatCouldHaveBeen, especially considering that their union might have actually produced a more stable, less CrapsackWorld with a sane king and a competent and intelligent queen.
** Maester Aemon is a hundred years old(in the books and his actor is in his 90s) while Olenna is a good twenty-twenty five years younger. Of course given the age difference its possible. Moreover, Olenna is quite dismissive of that Targaryen Prince and mocking. Given that Aemon's brother Aegon V, "Egg" became the last good Targaryen ruler and in the lore, he married for love but forbade his children from doing so, and the fact that Olenna is a contemporary of Tywin, at least in the show(where he's 67), its likely that Prince was Aerys II, which means that Olenna dodged a real bullet just as she ensured Margaery did with Joffrey.
** It's probably not Aemon. In ''Literature/TheWorldOfIceAndFire'', its revealed that Olenna Redwyne was engaged to Daeron Targaryen, son of Aegon V (a.k.a Egg). That guy backed out of the marriage because he was gay...which makes Margaery a HistoryRepeats.
[[WMG: The Martells in Season Five]]
* The Martells and the Golden Company subplots from Books 4 and 5 will be streamlined into a single whole. Doran Martell will be introduced as a secret Chessmaster who has been Varys' sponsor and financial backer(he is stated to be very rich) in setting up the Targaryen Restoration. It will be stated that Illyrio Mopatis was one of his agents, that he had planned the Khal Drogo/Dany wedding. It will be a simple and time efficient way to introduce the new character, setting and subplot. Season 4 will open with Tyrion and Varys' ship landing at Sunspear and Tyrion meeting Doran who tells him to take his son Trystane and/or Quentyn with him to Essos to bring back "our heart's desire: Vengeance, Justice, Fire and Blood". It also gives Tyrion a palpable goal, a new dynasty change will give him a pardon for his crimes and Casterly Rock and a fresh start and Doran will tell Tyrion that he owes Oberyn who died for him.
** Oberyn Martell is stated to have spent a lot of time in the East, probably on Doran's orders to establish a support base for the exiled Targaryens. In the books he worked with the Second Sons, here he worked with the Golden Company. Doran probably kept his cards close and presumably did not tell him about Varys being his man on the inside but Varys hints quite slyly to Oberyn about their connection in their conversation in the Iron Throne.
** With Arianne presumably AdaptedOut, it is likely that Myrcella Baratheon will become a kind of quasi-replacement with Doran and the Sand Snakes trying to manipulate her to taking the crown in a PlayingBothSides gambit.
[[WMG: The Golden Company in Season Five]]
* Bittersteel's Boys have been name-dropped twice in Season 4, with Jorah being a former mercenary for them and Davos recommending hiring them to Stannis. Given the whole Fake Aegon and Jon Connington thing, which might be hard to integrate in Game of Thrones, especially since it isn't backstory-crazy, their role and presence will likely be very different to how it is in the books.
** In Scenario One, Fake Aegon and Jon Connington are AdaptedOut and the Golden Company are combined with the Windblown and the Second Sons. The plan is A) Bring Back Daenerys to Westeros and if that doesn't work, B) Convince the Golden Company to take Westeros on behalf of Myrcella Baratheon, put brother against sister. It will simplify and make the whole story still work.
** In Scenario Two, Tyrion and Varys travels with the mercenaries to Braavos(instead of Pentos since it saves time and locations) and meets Aegon VI and Jon Connington in "The House with the Red Door"(a cool MythologyGag for fans) where Tyrion tells Aegon to go to Westeros while he heads to Meereen.
** In Scenario Three, The Golden Company are independent and unaffiliated. They are the personal PMC company on staff to the Iron Bank of Braavos who are built up as the next BiggerBad in Season Four. After Stannis' victory at the Wall and Tywin's death, the Golden Company will be assigned to protect Stannis' territory in Storm's End and the Stormlands mirroring the action in the books. The Martells and Tyrion and Varys will try and sway the Golden Company to their side away from Stannis and the Crown but Jorah who's in Braavos, kidnaps Tyrion putting a SpannerInTheWorks.
[[WMG: Rattleshirt will replace Tormund and the Weeper]]
...as [[spoiler: the wildling leading the remaining part of the army that is not captured or surrendering right after Stannis defeats Mance.]] Tormund, on the other hand, will replace Val as the wildling sent to treat with him, accounting for the fact that in show continuity Tormund is south of the Wall rather than north.
** Or this subplot could be trimmed down simply to Tormund being sent north to treat with the army on behalf of the captured Mance.
However, Rattleshirt [[spoiler: will refuse Tormund's terms, and be captured in a second battle later. This will earn him a visit to the pyre, sparing us the ADWD Rattleshirt/Mance glamor switcheroo nonsense.]]
** Casting sheets say that Varamyr Sixskins is being cast for season 5, and he could easily replace the Weeper or Rattleshirt.
[[WMG: Tywin and [[spoiler:Shae]]]]
Wasn't something they were doing on a regular basis, but [[HookersAndBlow a one-time thing]]. Tywin was driven to hire her services after that conversation with Cersei made his world come crashing down.
[[WMG: [[spoiler: Lady Stoneheart]] will appear in the first or last scene of Season 5's premiere.]]
Despite a lot of [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire book]] fans crying foul about her not appearing in the Season 4 finale, it would be a good way to introduce Season 5's overall atmosphere to show that, yes, things are going to get much, much, '''much''' darker.
** There's also the fact that much of the final part of Book 3 is still not put on screen, the events at the Wall for instance, the Lord Commander's election, Stannis and Jon meeting man to man and offering him Winterfell. It wasn't just Lady Stoneheart that was left out. Those parts are crucial to any future development of Jon Snow's storyline. And Lady Stoneheart is crucial to Brienne and Jaime's storyline. If they were to Adapt her out they would never introduce Beric Dondarrion to begin with or show the Brotherhood. Their storyline becomes more important in ''Literature/AFeastForCrows'' where Jaime visits the post-war Riverlands. There's already plenty of foreshadowing with Brienne getting tired of Podrick's company and complaining about him, the fact that she is already facing consequences for carrying a Lannister sword on travel and is further saddened with a Stark girl telling her she doesn't trust her.
** The real reasons why she was missing was as Alex Graves said, the producers did not feel it right to introduce her in an out-of-context Wham scene in the finale, where she randomly hangs Freys who are otherwise not seen throughout the season. In the books it worked because it took place in one book, but in a single season where a character suddenly shows up like a GiantSpaceFleaOutOfNowhere hanging some non-entity Frey would come off as cheap. That said, if she's not in next season, then they really won't bring her back.
[[WMG: Lady Merryweather won't be AdaptedOut]]
The most important characteristic of Cersei's arc in book 4 is the contrast between how clever she thinks she is (and how smug she is about it) and how the consequences of her schemes turn out. Since we can't access her internal monologues on TV, she needs some (seemingly) sycophantic character to act as her sounding board.
* Plus the show has steadfastly refused to not include as many sex scenes as humanly possible, so there's no way in hell they wont have [[spoiler: Cersei's lesbian sex scene with Lady Merryweather]] adapted in some way. (Though Lena Headey has said explicitly she's saving any nudity for a particular scene from ADWD...
[[WMG: Obara Sand will fight....]]
As part of the recent casting sheets publication, it has been revealed that Obara Sand will have a fight scene with a series regular that never meets her in the books. Given there are scenes being shot in Dorne it is almost certainly gonna take place in Dorne itself, and given the need to introduce her as a badass, said character will need to be a capable fighter themselves. Thus let us begin our speculation.
* Bronn: Maybe he and Lolys (who is also scheduled to be cast) run away to Dorne in order to escape a wrathful Cersei and end up embroiled in the politics there.
* Jorah: Now he is banished and wandering the world, maybe he ends up in Dorne for a time before or during [[spoiler: his joining up with Tyrion]].
* Yara: The Ironborn are raiding everywhere they can, and given the alterations made to the Ironborn plotline it isn't unfathomable she might try to raid Dorne.
** I would count Yara out, on the grounds that she's already been thoroughly humiliated once. She's still supposed to be a formidable warrior, but if she's bested by both Ramsay and Obara, it would be hard for anyone, in or out of universe, to take her seriously again.
* Daario: Is also out of Meereen and known for wanting to take a proactive stance with regards to potential enemies of Dany.
* Loras: erm....maybe he gets sent to Dorne by Cersei to make sure Myrcella is protected.
However if the story is modified to have her in Kings Landing (i.e. to bring back her father's body) then that opens up the possibility of...
* Jaime: Given her likely psychotic hatred of the Lannisters, he seems an obvious target and it could be a reversal of his fight scene with Ned in season 1.
* Ser Meryn Trant: Because everyone wants to see this guy get repeatedly stabbed.
** He could easily be sent to Dorne as a guard for Myrcella if the role of Arys Oakheart is cut, too. (Same with Loras should he join the Kingsguard in season 5)
* Gendry: It would give him a chance to make a cameo....okay, I'm reaching with this one.
* Maybe she will take over for Quentyn Martell and marches with Tyrion and Co. to Essos to find the Dragon Queen, along the way she could meet say, Jorah Mormont, Ser Barristan, Daario, Grey Worm and finally decide to [[spoiler:free the dragons and get roasted]].
[[WMG: Either Grey Worm or Missandei is going to die]]
There's been a lot of emphasis on their romance, which is not present in the books. While it's very sweet, the show rarely does sweet just for the sake of it. They're making the characters sympathetic before one of them dies.
* Plus, there are a number of characters who are not present in the show that die in the books. Either Grey Worm or Missanei's death will replace one of theirs.
[[WMG: In the long run, the Starks are actually in a better position than the other houses.]]
Although they're decimated and scattered across the Westeros, its not completely out of the question for them to be able to make a comeback. Compare with the other major houses:
* Lannisters: As of Season 4 they're going broke, Tywin isn't exactly getting any younger, his eldest son can't legally inherit his titles, he refuses to name his only other son as his heir ([[spoiler: and given Tyrion's arrest, its quite unlikely Tywin will ever change his mind]][[spoiler: also Tywin is dead]]), and Cersei isn't exactly the best candidate to bring the house back to its former glory.
* Tyrells: Their only male heir is gay and less likely to father any children, but of course averted if Loras decides to take one for the team.
* Baratheon: Stannis' wife is unable to give him any sons, and his only daughter is an IllGirl.
* Targaryen: Daenerys doesn't currently have any heirs, and in the books its implied that she's infertile.
* Bolton: Although Ramsay was legitimized as the heir to House Bolton, he's much more impulsive than his father and probably wouldn't be much better at ruling than Joffrey was. Also, if the rest of the North finds out that Bran and Rickon are still alive their hold over the North will significantly weaken.
* Frey: They have plenty of heirs, but in Season 4 its made clear that they're terrible at ruling and very unpopular with the smallfolk. Thanks to the Red Wedding, they're most likely the most hated house in Westeros for violating SacredHospitality.
On the other hand, the Starks still have two male heirs in the line of succession, with at least Rickon being capable of fathering another heir later on down the road. Additionally, the Starks were very much well liked by their allies right up until their downfall, all of whom would happily aid any of the surviving Stark children.
[[WMG: Ghost was captured accidentally, and Karl keeps him around to fuck with Rast's head]]
Summer fell in a trap. It only makes sense that Ghost fell in another, or even the same one, in the first place.
Who built that trap? Craster. He lives in the asscrack of the world and needs every pelt and bit of meat he can get his hands on, moreso in winter. It also provides defense against predators (like direwolves) or even other wildlings that might smell his tasty pork getting fried and want to raid his place. He's only one man and his wives don't seem battle trained after all.
Which leads us to the question of why, once Ghost fell on a trap laid by Craster that the mutineers probably didn't even know existed, they decided to *not* kill him and make him a nice cover. It's because Rast hates Ghost, going back to that incident in Season 1, and Karl wants to fuck with Rast because he is a bully. So Karl makes Rast care for Ghost, even if it costs him food, because he finds it amusing.
* It's unlikely this will ever be confirmed due to the whole...dead mutineers thing.
[[WMG: Grey Worm and Missandei will have a very sweet romance on the side which will end in tragedy]]
They will dance around each other in a WillTheyOrWontThey manner since she's Dany's personal servant and he's a eunuch. [[ShipperOnDeck Dany and a few others will ship them]]. Then they'll spend one night together, just holding each other. And then [[spoiler: Grey Worm will take Stalwart Shield's place as the Unsullied who was murdered by the Sons of the Harpy]] and leave Missandei heartbroken.
[[WMG: Loras and Cersei will be married.]]
[[spoiler:Although this will be a ''huge'' departure from the books,]] the writers may choose to go in this direction if they decide to keep Loras [[spoiler:out of the Kingsguard]] due to him being the sole male heir to Highgarden. After Margaery [[spoiler:marries Tommen]], there is no valid reason for Loras to stay in King's Landing [[spoiler:if he never dons the white cloak]]. Since Mace Tyrell will presumably [[spoiler:serve as Master of Ships on the Small Council]], Loras would be expected to return to Highgarden and rule in his stead. However, if Loras marries Cersei (however unwillingly), he will then become the husband of the Queen Regent and [[spoiler:more importantly, the ''stepfather'' of King Tommen]]. For dramatic purposes, the showrunners may prefer to heighten the Lannister-Tyrell dynamic by giving Loras a more powerful position than he had in the novels (his TV character has already been "promoted" to heir to Highgarden, after all). As [[spoiler:Tommen's stepfather]], Loras would exert greater authority than his book counterpart when [[spoiler:he and Margaery spend time with the young King in an attempt to limit Cersei's toxic influence on Tommen]]. Sure, Cersei is the Queen Regent, and will still retain her role in the political side of things, but in terms of how their marriage is run [[spoiler:and how Tommen is raised]], Loras as her husband would--at least in theory--trump her. (A similar real-life example--with a ruling queen regnant instead of a temporary queen regent--is Queen Elizabeth II and her husband Prince Philip. She is completely independent when performing her royal duties, but he is the dominant partner in their marriage.)
* There may be a hint in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM3vZxrFo24 this featurette]], where Roger Ashton-Griffiths says of his character, "I'm interested in the welfare of my children, by which I mean I want them to sit on the Iron Throne." Notice that the actor specifically uses the word "children," so unlike book!Mace, the TV version may want Loras to become part of the royal family in addition to Margaery. In Loras' case, the best Mace can hope for is for his son to be married to the Queen Regent, as Myrcella has already been betrothed to a Martell.
** There is also Jaime's comment in "The Lion and the Rose" where he mentions that both Tywin and Mace are very keen to see Cersei and Loras wed.
[[WMG: Loras will never join [[spoiler:Joffrey's or Tommen's Kingsguard.]]]]
He is the only son of Mace Tyrell on the show, so it's extremely doubtful that he would purposely endanger the ''survival'' of his House by [[spoiler:donning the white cloak]]. As much as he hates being betrothed to Cersei, it's difficult to imagine the dutiful Knight of Flowers placing his own selfish desire to escape a miserable marriage above his family's long-term future. According to GRRM, [[http://winteriscoming.net/2013/10/grrm-talks-season-4-beyond/ Willas and Garlan Tyrell will have important parts to play in future novels]]. TV!Loras is already a CompositeCharacter of his AdaptedOut brothers, so it's reasonable to assume that he will take over their roles at a later date. From the point of the view of the writers, it's better to keep Loras out of the [[spoiler:order]] so that he is free to leave King's Landing when the story requires him to [[spoiler:(e.g. like defending the Reach from the Ironborn)]].
[[WMG: Dagmer Cleftjaw is still alive.]]
Ramsay claimed that [[spoiler: he flayed all the Ironborn alive]] at Winterfel, but Dagmer might have been too smart for that. Book!Dagmer wouldn't have betrayed the Greyjoys in the first place, so maybe, after [[spoiler: handing Theon over to Ramsay]] in order to save his own ass, he joined Yara and her men in an effort to redeem himself.
[[WMG: Balerion is still alive]]
Unless of course he is reincarnated as Drogon, which is suggested in the books.
* I believe in the books it was strongly suggested that the dragon skull Arya hides in in season 1 while Varys and Ilyrio are plotting belonged to Balerion, but I don't know if it's stated explicitly.
[[WMG: The Lord of Light and The Drowned God both exist.]]
They are both powerful spirits that people have chosen to worship as gods. The Lord of Light dwells in the sky and and the Drowned God in the sea, only the followers of the Lord of Light call the Drowned God the Great Other and the Ironborn call the Lord of Light the Storm God. I know there is no evidence whatsoever to support this, but it has at least been implied that the Lord of Light is real and it would be awesome if these two beings both exist and are at war.
[[WMG: The Great Other will finally make an appearance near the end.]]
And he'll turn out to be [[IncrediblyLamePun a pretty cool guy.]] But in all seriousness he will be surprisingly friendly and non-malicious if disinterested in normal mortal affairs. Mostly he just cares about getting R'hllor to [[IncrediblyLamePun chill out a bit.]] Also his and R'hllor's dialogue is going to be [[HurricaneOfPuns Ice and Fire puns.]] Also FoeYay.
[[WMG: Ramsay Snow is the Author Avatar of George R. R. Martin, not Sam Tarly as is commonly believed]]
Ramsay chains up a character and continually tortures him in creative ways. He even says: "If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention." George R. R. Martin figuratively tortures his characters, in some cases to death, and by extension tortures his readers until they cry 'Stop!' but like Theon, they can't escape the torture.
[[WMG: Danerys Targaryen and Jon Snow will join forces.]]
It would make sense "a song of Fire (Targaryens) and Ice (Starks)." Danerys will have her dragons, and Jon will have an army of wildlings and others. Between the two of them they will take the Iron Throne. They both seem to be the "main" characters. They might rule together or Jon will bow to her and let her be queen. (Starks only bowed to dragons).
[[WMG: [[AxCrazy Ramsay]] is planning to transform "Reek" into [[FreudianExcuse his mother]]]]
Castration is only the beginning. Next will be the [[NightmareFuel Westerosi version]] of a [[MedicalHorror boob job]].
* The scene in the books where Reek is telling [[spoiler:Roose Bolton]] that he has "wounds" under his clothes will certainly have a new [[NightmareFuel horrifying meaning]]. A forced sex change with medieval tools...more BrainBleach, please.
** Biggest [[spoiler: Fake!Arya]] crackpot theory: She will be Trans!Reek. Reek knows Winterfell. Ramsay always wants Reek by his side. Reek's demeanor is so different from Theon that no one will recognize him in female clothing, even less so in Winterfell where everyone who knew him there was killed or taken in chains to the Dreadfort by Ramsay. [[spoiler: Instead of saving Fake!Arya, Reek will save himself when Ramsay wants to get intimate.]] Roose and Walda's children, if they have any, will be passed for Ramsay's.
[[WMG: Yara Greyjoy will do to Ramsay what he did to Theon.]]
I have since discovered that her retaliation was not in the books, making this unlikely, but not necessarily impossible.
[[WMG: Jon Snow will play a key role in the Starks winning the war.]]
In the very first episode when the wolf cubs were found, Robb and Bran tried to protect them while Theon seemed willing to kill them. Jon Snow solved the problem. [[spoiler: This could be some major foreshadowing of future events.]]
[[WMG: Tyrion will die in the final episode.]]
After a great victory, a satisfying fate for all the most hated characters, and a Stark ruling the North with justice and honor, as in Season One, there will be a final betrayal (possibly orchestrated by a Bolton) and Tyrion, new Hand to the King\Queen will be killed. The final moment of the series will be Tyrion dying in someone's arms (Sansa?) and saying, "And now his watch is ended." That would of course be the only way to kill him off without everybody boycotting the series, and by ensuring that the ending is not entirely satisfying.
[[WMG: Jorah Mormont will die protecting the Khaleesi.]]
Furthermore, he will die in her arms and it will be a [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming crowning moment of heartwarming]] without there ever having been any romance between them.
[[WMG: At least one of the villains will escape justice.]]
Joffrey, Cersei, Ilim Payne, Tywin, The Mountain, [[spoiler: Roose]] as of the third series, Frey, Ramsay... there are so, so many. Considering how many good characters die, it makes sense that some of these villains will never get the nasty fates they deserve.
[[WMG: Bran Stark will end up on the Iron Throne, with Tyrion as his hand]]
Bran will find magic powers in the north, take several levels in Baddass, learn to walk again, and take the throne. Tyrion may end up eventually undoing Danerys when she succumbs to the Targaryen madness, or simply be around when she is defeated in her invasion of Westeros or her dragons turn on her. Tyrion has shown himself to be a capable Hand and got along well with Bran.)
[[WMG: Jon Snow will fight Daenerys Targaryen for the Iron Throne, win and be known as "King Snow" or the "The Bastard King"]]
Jon Snow will end up with an army of others and wildlings, and Bran's advanced magic abilities. Danerys will invade Westeros. Between the two of them, they will obliterate the Lannisters (except for Tyrion, because he always manages to survive). The two will fight and Jon's side will prevail.
[[WMG: The unused S3 melody "For the Realm"]]
...was originally part of a deleted scene showing the fates of the Northerners bodies after the Red Wedding.
[[WMG: The Tarly that Robert killed was the heir to House Tarly]]
Either Sam's uncle or an older brother. He had been carefully groomed from birth to lead the Tarlys in the future, but Robert put an end to that during the rebellion against Aerys. This set in motion a chain of events that ended with Sam, a kid who wouldn't have hope of inheriting originally and had not been prepared as a result, as heir presumptive.
* Does your chain of events include Sam's father, Lord Randyll? Because whether or not he was meant to inherit, he's done a fairly good job lording the house. ...Well, if by "good" we include "forcing your son to join the Night's Watch ''because'' he would make a poor lord," but let's be honest: he might have been a jackass about it, but he was not wrong.
[[WMG: Gendry will ''become'' Hyle Hunt]]
The Goldcloaks don't know his face but they do know his name. Running around the Crownlands under the name Gendry ''and'' looking like a Baratheon is still a likely death sentence. So, why not change names? "Hyle" could either be a LineOfSightName, or even a DeadPersonImpersonation with so many knights slain in battle during the War of the Five Kings.
[[WMG: Walder Frey [[spoiler:will become a CompositeCharacter of Emmon Frey and Devan Lannister.]]]]
When/If they show the [[spoiler:Siege of Riverrun]] subplot from AFFC, [[spoiler:Walder Frey will make an appearance at the Lannister/Frey camps close to Riverrun, where he has been appointed its newly made lord and arranged to marry a Lannister girl.]] This would solve the issue of introducing characters whose back stories haven't been previously established, particularly [[spoiler:Emmon Frey, whose marriage to Tywin's sister would confuse TV audiences into thinking: [[PlotHole "Wait, if the Lannisters were already married into House Frey, why weren't the Freys on the Lannisters' side in the first place?"]]]]
[[spoiler:Since Joyeuse Frey has been KilledOffForReal in the adaptation, the producers could easily have him reappear and take Devan's place, which would gender-invert the marriage pact that was made in the books. Also, Emmon Frey was an ItsAllAboutMe {{Jerkass}} who loved to boast about being the new Lord of Riverrun, which wouldn't be at all out-of-character for the old weasel. Even better, with the Brotherhood Without Banners at Riverrun "making plans for the wedding", Lord Frey could suffer a DeathByAdaptation at the "Red Wedding 2.0".]]
[[WMG: Jaime will give his position in the Kingsguard to Loras]]
The Kingsguard is made of 7 sworn knights, no more no less. While it is for life, Barristan's forced resignation (ironically to give his commander position to Jaime) sets a precedent for Jaime himself doing it, and the loss of his swordhand is the perfect excuse since he can't protect the King without it anyway. This will be a delight for Tywin, who wants Jaime to inherit Casterly Rock, marry and sire children that will keep it away from Tyrion (the Kingsguard requires celibacy and holding no lands or titles); but Jaime won't do it for him. He will as part of a gamble to save Cersei from a second arranged marriage and keep her to himself. So, in order to cancel the Cersei-Loras match, Jaime will offer Loras the Kingsguard position as his way out of the marriage, and Loras, being gay and Cersei being, well, Cersei, will accept. Joffrey will accept to name Loras behind Tywin's back because [[spoiler:he'll be bitter and want to piss off his grandfather after a discussion between the two]], as hinted by the promo and released synopsis for 3x10, and he's certainly petty and stupid enough to damage Tyrell-Lannister relations by doing this without sparing a second.
* There should be an open spot in the Kingsguard from when the Hound deserted.
** Actually, [[SeriousBusiness fans who have counted]] the Kingsguards in the background in Season 3 have concluded that they are 7 if you count Jaime and the one that went to Dorne with Myrcella, suggesting that the Hound's spot was filled between seasons. (Book spoiler: [[spoiler:His name's Osmund Kettleblack.]])
[[WMG: Tormund is Ygritte's father]]
He is old enough to be her father and promiscuous enough to not be sure about it. The two are also redheads and take an instant liking of Jon Snow despite having little reason to do so.
* I like this theory. I think he knows she is his daughter. In "The Climb", when she is about to fall, he is more worried than he was when all the others fell.
[[WMG: Loras will die.]]
* If you haven't read book 4, turn back now! [[spoiler: In A Feast for Crows, Loras recieves mortal wounds during a raid on Dragonstone, having been put to the obviously suicidal mission by Cersei. By A Dance with Dragons, he has still not recovered. He seems to have done his plot duty by this point and it's not likely we'll ever see him again. As of season three, Loras's role has been upped from the book, and David and Dan seem to be even more bloodthirsty than the original author. Chances are they're going to go right for the throat (or burning oil) and follow up on the show's murderous reputation. It grows ever more likely with every Loras scene, as he's quickly becoming a fan favorite.]]
** In the episode Mhysa, Cersei tells Tyrion in no uncertain terms she won't be marrying Ser Loras. How could she pull this off without angering Tywin? Seems this might be the way to do it...
*** Loras's death will anger Olenna a lot, even more than Joffrey's treatment of Margaery already has. Mace (who will now appear) may try doing something, but god knows he's always ineffective. But Olenna standing there taking the death of her grandson like nothing? Oh-no. [[spoiler: It will lead nicely to her poisoning Joffrey. And the best part? If the above troper is right, it will be Cersei's fault.]] Maybe now that Stannis is already on his way to the wall, Cersei will set the Siege of Dragonstone earlier.
*** ''If'' Loras dies in Season 4, it won't occur before [[spoiler:the PW because Finn Jones has appeared in at least three HBO featurettes dressed in Loras' flowery outfit with the outdoor wedding feast set in the background.]]
** I very much doubt that TV!Loras will be killed off before the events of ''The Winds of Winter'' because according to GRRM, [[http://winteriscoming.net/2013/10/grrm-talks-season-4-beyond/ Willas and Garlan Tyrell will have important parts to play in future novels]]. TV!Loras is already a CompositeCharacter of his AdaptedOut brothers, so he will most likely take over their roles in the later seasons.
[[WMG:Margaery Tyrell does anal, or is bisexual]]
* In season 3, when she's trying to comfort Sansa about the positives of marrying Tyrion, she mentions that he's said to be quite skilled, and that women are very hard to pleased, among other things. Sansa asks her how she knew that, and if her mother had told her. Margaery hesitates, as wondering if she should screw with Sansa's innocence and adoration for her or not, and then she unconvincingly says that yeah, her mother told her. Now, for her to be betrothed to Joffrey, having Loras vouch for her maidenhood wouldn't be enough. Surely there would have been some sort of official "checking", so she must be a maiden still. Now, what would they be looking at to confirm she's a maiden? Exactly. So if she's indeed "versed" in sex, she must have either had [[spoiler: only anal sex with men, or have non-penetrative sex with other women.]] The second option wouldn't be so far fetched, considering what his brother is like, and how nonchalant her grandmother was when confronted by Tywin about the rumors about him.
** While this could be true, we cannot take for granted that she is TechnicalVirgin. Checking the hymen isn't very reliable, since many women lose their hymens while riding, and characters in the books (including Cersei, who would love to find a way to get rid of Margaery) freely admit it.
** Because non-penetrative sex between heterosexual couples doesn't exist, obviously.
[[WMG:Most of "A Feast for Crows" Will be Omitted Completely.]]
* Until book 4, "A Song of Ice and Fire" is a rollicking thriller, but "Feast" is kind of the oddball of the series, in that not much really happens. The focus is on the fallout of the war, rather than on the twisty conflicts of the rest of the series. The Greyjoy, Martell, Arya, and Sansa chapters are all essential, but a majority of it is Cersei brooding in King's Landing and Brienne riding around for no apparent reason. Chances are 99% of the Brienne material will be cut and Cersei will get even less screen time than in season 3. Luckily, there's more material to combine with "Dance" to make up a solid season 4-5.
** This makes sense, to a point. AFFC and ADWD are meant to be taking place simultaneously. My prediction is that this will be reflected starting season five.
** On that note, most of Dany's Meereen material will be abridged as well. A whole lot of minor characters that play a role in those chapters are either dead or have been omitted by the writers. There's too much relevant stuff going on in Westeros to bother the viewers with having to remember 40 new characters all named Hazoo.
[[WMG:In the series verse Syrio Forel is Jaqen H'ghar.]]
Syrio Forel's discussion on death sounds a heck of a lot like [[spoiler:a faceless man]]. Alternatively he just knows it well being of Braavos.
* The whole speech did seem to imply his familiarity at the very least with the book's Many-Faced God. Might be the creators have a little inside info that they need to hint at a connection to [[spoiler: The Faceless Men]] and Syrio for some reason. However they could just as easily be using a native Braavosi to introduce Arya to the concept of the god of death without it seeming like heavy handed exposition. Just simply planting the seed for the future story lines. I do hope it is the case as it's one of my favourite theories or failing that Syrio returns in some other way.
** Er, what? Isn't "Not today?" the exact ''opposite'' of "valar morghulis"?
** Eh, "All Men Must Die." doesn't mean it has to be today they die. "All Men Must Die but Not Today."?
* The motto is two parts; "All Men Must Die; All Men Must Serve." There's a WMG somewhere that proposes that as Braavos is a former slave city, "serve" is next to synonymous with "live", as in "I can't die today, I'm busy serving".
* Interestingly, one of [[spoiler:Jaqen's]] other identities, The Alchemist, is actually described in the books as looking a fair amount like TV!Syrio- he has thick, black curly hair and a fairly large, hooked nose. This would make it easy for the show to confirm this theory, by having [[spoiler:Jaqen]] be a different actor, and then transform back into (a disguised) Syrio as The Alchemist. Still, as noted below, it's hard to believe that Syrio survived his last appearance- if Trant/Syrio is alive, then Syrio/Trant shouldn't be.
** Actually he could be. If he could somehow escape the room (either by disarming Trant or simply escaping through the window), it's unlikely Trant would tell anyone that he was outmaneuvered by the little girl's dance instructor. Trant could have easily coerced his guards into backing some story of Syrio's demise to save himself the embarassment/punishment.
* Possible evidence in the season 2 finale; When Jaqen says goodbye to Arya, he calls her "Arya Stark", despite Arya never telling him her name.
[[WMG:Syrio Forel did not die in episode 8.]]
You can hear several death screams after Arya ran out of the room. Clearly Syrio picked the sword from one of the downed soldiers and made quick work of all of them. He just didn't want Arya to see the slaughter.
* Why stop there? I'm pretty sure the season finale will end with the Lannister and Stark armies converging on King's Landing, the gates swing open, and all we'll see is Syrio Forel, standing atop a pile of shishkebabbed Lannisters.
* We last saw him face Ser Meryn Trant in a fight to the death. Meryn Trant has survived the encounter as he hits Sansa in the season finale.
* Not to mention, one of the heads on spikes in the same scene may be his. It's difficult to tell, but it may be the one to the left of the Septa's.
* In the books, it's never elaborated on whether he was killed or not, or what happened to him. The only reference to him up through book 5 is a brief reference to him--still referred to as Arya's dancing master--interfering with their attempt to grab Arya resulting in her getting away.
** Additionally, George R. R. Martin has never actually confirmed that Syrio died, only vaguely hinted at it, which is highly unusual since he has confirmed outright every other offscreen death thus far. It's possible he's leaving himself an opening in case readers and viewers want Syrio to make another appearance.
[[WMG: Ros has become a spy for Littlefinger and/or Varys and Pycelle was onto it.]]
We know she works Littlefinger and besides her profession, has a natural talent for being TheWatson/played into the show's love of "sexposition". It seems rather suspicious in "Fire and Blood" that she basically wanted to know Pycelle's feelings about all of the kings that he's served, and he seemed to catch on this, which probably explains why he effusively praises Joffrey (he wouldn't want that psychopath to learn that Pycelle had criticized him) and seems to feign senility to stop Ros' questioning. Note that the very next scene shows Varys and Littlefinger involved in their usual plotting.
* Probably every single one of Littlefinger's whores is a spy for him. And yes, Pycelle is clearly feigning that he is just a senile old guy - after Ros leaves, he stretches, makes a couple of squats, then puts on his robe, his chains ''and his slouch''.
** I wouldn't call this a guess so much as an outright fact. It even seems as though he begins expositing to her without her asking anything, as though he is intentionally taking an opportunity to further portray himself with the mask he has been wearing to this point. Everything he has said and done when other characters are present could be for an (as of yet) undisclosed agenda. The real question is "What is Pycelle's agenda?"
** Jossed as of "The Climb".
*** Not really. Littlefinger could very well have employed Ros as a spy before she defected to Varys. And we still don't know if Pycelle was on it in that scene, and probably we never will.
[[WMG: The Starks and Danaerys will wind up in alliance together]]
* Ned, one of the principle instigators of the Baratheon rebellion, is no longer [[IncrediblyLamePun head]] of the Stark family, Robb and Catelyn want vengeance for Ned's execution, and the man who killed Dany's father in the first place, Jaime Lannister, is in Stark custody. The Starks, furthermore, have no interest in the Iron Throne, instead content to govern themselves and see to the problems in the North. It would be a mutually beneficial partnership: The Starks assist Danaerys, her legitimacy to the throne reinforced by the fact that she's truly of the Dragon's blood(immunity to fire) and one of the symbols of the Targaeryens' Mandate of Heaven(of sorts) was their dragons which Dany's returned to the world. The Starks, meanwhile, want to just be left alone in Winterfell(hell, they might not completely secede from Westeros if Joffrey's beheaded, the Lannisters wiped out, and a new king/queen is on the Throne that they're no longer at hostilities with) and they're only fighting to maintain their (newly found) independence.
** Well, the Greatjon ''did'' say that it was the dragons the Northerners bowed to...
[[WMG: Gendry (Robert's bastard that Ned met) is actually Cersei and Robert's legitimate heir.]]
* Cersei, not wanting a son by Robert on the throne, had him sent away (or he was smuggled away to prevent Cersei from killing him) under the guise that he died as the black-haired baby that Cersei told Catelyn about. After Cersei found out that Ned had been looking into Robert's other children, Gendry's master sent him off to the North to save him from being killed by her. Alternately, Gendry is not Cersei's but Robert and Lyanna's, and Cersei resented him for being the son of a dead woman / thought he would be a threat to any other children she had.
** If Gendry was Cersei's son and she sent him away right after his birth, wouldn't someone have noticed that she was pregnant?
** It's canon in both the books and the show that Cersei had a kid before Joffrey; in the books she aborted the pregnancy with Jaime's help (it was Robert's kid and she only wanted to have Jaime's), and in the show she actually gave birth to a child by Robert, specifically mentioned to be blackhaired, and he died very young, presumably not long after birth. It *is* possible, but highly unlikely.
** There's no reason to believe Cersei was telling the truth about having Robert's child in the show.
*** There totally '''is'''. That scene is important because it showed the audience 1) that Cersei still has some feelings left, and 2) it's the first sign for the audience that something's wrong with Joffrey's... genealogic tree. Had she been lying, the revelation of that (and Ned figuring that out on his own) comes from too much of a left field.
** Gendry states that his mother had yellow hair, adding to the slight possibility that Cersei could be his mother. If she was his mother (at least on the show only), then Cersei was probably content to have a trueborn son until Joffrey was born and she decided a true Lannister was better than a Baratheon on the Iron Throne. She claims the older boy (no more than a toddler) fell ill and died so that Joff becomes heir, yet loves her firstborn enough not to kill him and sends him to some trusted household in King's Landing.
[[WMG: Jon Snow is King Robert's bastard.]]
* Jon has black hair, like all the Baratheon children. Ned and Robert were away at war together when Jon was born. Ned took the child to raise as his own, making up the story about his parentage for the sake of his friend, Robert.
** Doesn't that mean his name should actually be [[Creator/JohnWaters Jon Waters]]?
** No, if this was true he would have to be retconned female. Her name? Joan Rivers.
*** First off, [[ActuallyPrettyFunny tee hee]]. Secondly, not necessarily. Careful research (going by the books here, with liberal exploitation of A Wiki of Ice and Fire) has led this troper to conclude that the bastard names must be more a matter of where the child is raised rather than born/conceived, a matter that usually isn't of note because the two are usually the same place. Take Edric Storm, the bastard son Robert conceived on Stannis's wedding night in his marriage bed (ouch). By all logic, his name should be Edric Waters, as he was born/conceived at Dragonstone in the Crownlands (or Edric Flowers, if we take the long shot that Stannis and Selyse were married in ''her'' family's castle in the Reach), but he's instead given the bastard name of the Stormlands, which could only be because he was fostered by Renly at Storm's End. Then there's the fact that (as is established) Robert and Ned were away at war, so no way was Jon actually ''born'' in the North, even if we ignored that Wylla (the woman Ned presents as Jon's mother when he talks about her at all) was a servant of House Dayne in ''Dorne'' (to put things into perspective for the TV-only fans, when the wildlings were talking about going as south as south can go? They either meant Dorne or getting off Westeros). If Eddard ''was'' raising Robert's bastard son as his own, then he'd only naturally slap on the name of the North in the hopes that people wouldn't ask too many questions.
[[WMG:Or Jon Snow is the Bastard Child of Lyanna Stark...]]
Why not both? They were in love, after all.
* Not necessarily. Robert was in love with Lyanna, yes, but the books imply this was mainly from a distance and don't give any indication they ever actually slept together. Lyanna is even suggested to have been somewhat cynical about the arrangement; a flashback has her telling Ned that she knew Robert would never be satisfied with just one woman, even her. The popular guess, though this hasn't been confirmed in any way shape or form, is that Jon is the bastard of Lyanna and ''Rhaegar'', followed up by him being the bastard of Ned or his brother Brandon and Ashara Dayne.
* More on the Jon is son of Lyanna Stark: In his last conversation with Ned, he tells him (paraphrasing) "You don't have my name, but you have my blood". That fits a bastard son [[JediTruth as much as a nephew by your sister]]. Too bad he didn't live to fullfill what he promised when he said "We'll speak some day about your mother".
** Don't you know? "We'll speak about this some day" is TV talk for "This is the last time you will see me before my untimely demise."
* Another problem with this is that if Jon was Robert's child by Lyanna, there is no way in the seven hells Robert ''wouldn't'' claim the kid as his own. Hell, he'd probably raise him at court. Something not mentioned in the show yet, but will become a plot point in the second season is that Robert does have a bastard he acknowledges back in Storm's End, and he's really more of a father to that kid than he ever was to Joffery. That was specifically because Robert deflowered a daughter of a noble(if somewhat minor) house on his brother's wedding bed, so he couldn't very well deny the kid was his. But he actually loved Lyanna and never cared about humiliating Cersei. He'd hold onto his and Lyanna's son for dear life. Hell, he might even legitimize him(king's can declare bastard children legit) and name him heir, but that might go a little too far towards pissing off Tywin.
** All the more reason to suspect he might be Rhaegar's. Consider, if you will, Jaime's little speech about Jon Snow: "You hated that boy, didn't you? The walking, talking reminder that the honorable Lord Eddard Stark fucked another woman." Now multiply that by Robert's irrationality, hatred of Rhaegar, obsession with Lyanna, fondness for the war hammer, and record for caring about the deaths of inconvenient Targaryen babies (0-2) and you start to see why Ned Stark would want to keep the kid a secret.
*** (guy who posted that bit about why Robert would have kept Jon if he was his bastard here) Personally I subscribe to the (book based speculation) [[spoiler:Ned Stark/Ashara Dayne theory. Which isn't to say the Rheargar/Lyanna theory doesn't hold a lot of water, but one of the reasons I don't buy it is because it's set up so nicely and that's exactly the kind of bait and switch Martin would go for. I'm just pointing out that this Robert+Lyanna= Jon theory just doesn't hold up.]]
*** Except that idea of the bait&switch of Jon's parentage being so obvious it could lead fans to disregard it completely could be the whole point of that. Granted, this troper is very new to the series (haven't read the books yet, only seen the first few eps of season 1, but been reading a lot of rather spoileriffic entries here and numerous clips on YouTube) but don't forget that there's a fine line between being on to the writer's tricks and the writer is deliberately setting you up with something so seemingly obvious that you dismiss the possibility entirely.
*** Robert may have kept Jon if he were his bastard, if he knew about it. He may have never seen Lyanna pregnant, what with the whole kidnapping thing, and she may have wanted to keep Jon out of the royal family. After all, in this theory, she'd just been kidnapped and (presumably) raped by the prince; she's probably not all that enthusiastic about her son becoming a prince. And being as she was dying, Robert would have to marry someone else, and whoever that woman was, she probably wouldn't be happy about Robert's son with another woman hanging around (obviously, Catelyn wasn't happy about that either, but being as the Starks aren't royalty, it matters somewhat less to the realm. Also, Ned kind of got lucky with Cat; yeah, she wasn't happy about Jon, but she never outright mistreated him. Can you imagine, say, Cersei doing the same?)
[[WMG: Jon Snow's parents are Ned and...Cersei??]]
* Its a bit of a stretch but I couldn't shake the feeling that the story Cersei gives about her first-born, black-haired child had some greater significance. The theory is that [[ManipulativeBitch Cersei]] somehow managed to seduce Ned into sleeping with her, prior to or during the early part of her marriage to Robert. Then she became pregnant and gave birth to Jon. They both realised that the child may eventually grow to resemble Ned instead of Robert, which would cause a massive heap of trouble so they faked the baby's death by fever and Ned took him back to Winterfell, both promising to never speak of their affair. Not even to each other.
** First of...Wow, just trying [[CrackPairing to wrap my head around that]]. It makes zero sense and requires Ned and Cersei to be totally different than what we see in the story. The point of that Cersei story about her first child dying (not there in the books) is to foreshadow that Joffrey is a bastard. Its not meant to be anything deeper than that. Second of all, Cersei is a MamaBear, its her one redeeming quality, she would never willingly allow any of the children (that she does not abort and gives birth to at any rate) to be parted from her under any circumstances, leave alone be frozen in North and left to rot in the Night's Watch. Third of all and this is what cinches the deal of a far-fetched theory...if Cersei was worried about Jon resembling Robert, why the hell isn't she worried about ''Joffrey, Tommen and Myrcella'' who look even less like Robert than Jon does (they at least share the hair colour and if Jon Snow grows a beard, Kit Harrington could look like Robert). She is rather brazen about regarding those kids as official progeny when all three of them are golden haired lion cubs with no stag in them. So that's about it.
[[WMG: The Stallion that Mounts the World prophesy was actually about dragons.]]
* This was noted on this Westeros site's forum and I noticed part of it too. There may be a ProphecyTwist in that the death of Dany's son didn't disprove the Stallion prophecy- instead, it started the chain of events that will bring it about. The "Stallion" is actually a dragon that Dany will ride and will use to TakeOverTheWorld. So, if the witch thought she was preventing Dothraki expansionism by killing Dany's son, it's quite likely she [[NiceJobBreakingItHero actually made it possible]]. Incidentally, Dany's stillborn son was described as having scales and a tail- maybe that gave Dany the idea; maybe it would have been a human/dragon hybrid...
** In the series Danys was much younger when she married, so that the child growing within her to be the stallion who mounts the world is actually Danys. It turns out Old Valarian had no gender...
*** Except the Dothraki don't speak Old Valyrian, so this particular ProphecyTwist only applies to prophecies written in Valyrian. That is, only the the Prince Who Was Promised prophecy.
[[WMG: Some musings about Westeros' climate]]
* Putting it here cos this dips far into the theoretical field of things. Not sure how physically possible this is or not, but make up your own mind about it. The seasons on the world where Westeros and the rest are situated are not caused by the planet's tilt or by an elliptical orbit, which causes seasons on most worlds. On the contrary; Westeros-world has a small axial tilt and as near a circular orbit as is physically possible. The seasons are in fact caused by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precession the planet's precession]]. On Earth and other worlds, the rate of precession is slow and constant, with Earth's precession rate averaging 26,000 years or so in length, and is a major player in causing Ice Ages and warmer periods. On Westeros-world, the precession rate varies wildly, whether caused by a nearby large gravity well or otherwise, the rate can't stabilise. Mention is made of a prominent moon and that there may have at one time been two (loss of a moon leading to wildly fluctuating precession rate?). The precession rate is also phenomenally fast, taking as little as 15-30 years to complete.
** I'm obsessed with this too. While the moon is "prominent" in their night sky, that ''could'' only indicate its proximity, not its size. It's entirely possible that their moon is smaller than ours and has a weaker gravitational pull. It would be fascinating to see an [[WordOfGod approved]] chart of the planet's solar system, with orbits and satellites, etc, similar to [[http://www.fireflyshipworks.com/map-of-the-verse/map-of-the-verse/ The Map of the 'Verse]] from Firefly.
** WordOfGod says the reason for this is supernatural, not scientific.
** Yep. IMHO, you're looking at a tidal aetheric energy type deal, similar to what you had with The Lord of the Rings, with the elves having to leave there, because they were dual physical/astral beings, who couldn't co-exist physically when the aetheric tide was that low/veil between the two was that thick. Best guess, the Wall between Westeros and the North was built close to the end of the last aetheric high tide, which is also why there was talk of runes being in the Wall's design. Back then, the humans would have had magick users who knew how to do such things. At another guess, that is also why the dragons died off, and why they're coming back now. The aetheric tide is rising, which not only coincides with Winter coming, (and is probably partly tied into it, more than any scientific/physical reason for the change in seasons) but would be a big part of the reason why the Walkers are able to come back. At aetheric low tide, you get no magic, and nothing but mundane types of people and animals, which is also why you get people becoming materialistic and thinking that science is all that exists, because low tide periods can last longer than living memory, so non-magickal stuff is all anyone living can remember.
** If the orbital tilt is zero, precession is by definition zero. If precession makes the orbital tilt non-zero, you will get seasons which won't change the average temperature of the planet, and not a sudden "winter". Since years are used as a measure of time, they must have the same length, so the orbit can't change. This leaves fluctuations of the star's intensity, but that wouldn't explain the "long night" - a period in the lore where the sun didn't shine at all, something which would mean the destruction of any physical star because of the lack of photon pressure. This leaves as only option technology. Either the star is simulated, there's a dyson cloud or dyson sphere which is mostly translucent between the planet and the star, the planet contains machines to alter its rotational characteristics, it's all a computer simulation, or multiple of the above. There is no natural phenomenon to explain this, and no simple technology either.
*** Maybe the title sequence is more realistic than we realize, and Westeros is on the inside of a malfunctioning [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere Dyson Sphere]]; the sun in the center has started to wobble, causing the random length of the seasons.
[[WMG: Bronn is a deserter from the Night's Watch]]
* He admits to having been north of the Wall for some unexplained "work". He's not exactly the most honorable guy, and could have been a criminal who was sent to the Wall as punishment, then fled, escaping the law and becoming a sellsword to make his living.
** He mentions the first person he killed was a woman who came at him with an axe. Sounds like a wilding to me.
*** I kind of thought the woman he killed before he was twelve was his mother, who he says was abusive.
** They don't send kids to the wall though - he killed her before he was twelve. Maybe he ''is'' a wildling, or he could be a bastard from one of the brothels in the North.
*** What about Lommy or Hot Pie? They might not *condemn* children to the Wall but they definitely *recruit* them.
[[WMG: Women from the kingdom of Dorne taste like blackberry jam]]
Robert is heard to comment to a prostitute that she tastes like blackberry jam. When asked 'what's the strangest thing you've ever eaten,' Tyrion replies, 'do Dornish girls count?' Maybe the prostitute was from Dorne, where all the girls taste of jam, much to Tyrion's surprise the first time he slept with one.
* One would assume the reason any woman would taste like blackberry jam would be that they're using a type of lotion, perfume, or cream derived from blackberries, specifically for flavor enhancement. Perhaps this is especially common in Dorne.
* Slight correction, but I believe Robert's words were that the girl ''smelled'' of blackberry jam. Though if that was a result of a perfume or skin lotion she may have tasted like jam as well. Seems like something a prostitute would do.
* ''Ha!'' In the book version of his introduction, Mance Rayder is singing a song called "[[http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/The_Dornishman%27s_Wife The Dornishman's Wife]]"...
-->"Brothers, oh brothers, my days here are done,
--->the Dornishman's taken my life,
-->But what does it matter, for all men must die,
--->and I've tasted the Dornishman's wife!"
[[WMG: Jon Snow and Daenerys will team up to form a rock band at some point]]
Their first hit will be called "A Song of Ice (Snow) and Fire (Daenerys)".
* I picture them sounding a lot like the White Stripes.
[[WMG: They'll return [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/05/the-simpsons-game-of-thrones_n_1321443.html the favor]] and parody ''TheSimpsons'' opening.]]
An aerial shot of a rebuilt Winterfell as a modern city, complete with Lard Lad Lemoncakes sign and billboard advertising snow tires with the slogan "Winter is Coming", descends into a classroom window. Bran is WritingLines on the blackboard: "I will not warg into the class gerbil"...
** Or maybe "Asshai is not pronounced ass-high".
[[WMG: Bronn is a SelfMadeOrphan]]
The woman that attacked him with an axe when he was 12 and was his first kill was his mother (who he said was physically abusive to him). His father, who was ''also'' abusive, was either already dead by then, or was Bronn's ''second'' kill.
[[WMG: It wasn't a ''cow'' pie.]]
For one, there was not a single cow in that crowd.
* Maybe somebody traveled with it from a field?
[[WMG: Syrio is a Faceless Man, but he isn't Jaqen.]]
Actually, he killed Meryn and has been posing as him ever since.
[[WMG: All characters from the Free Cities will have mainland European accents]]
The show will continue to use accents to distinguish regions. From Syrio, we already know that Braavos is Spanish (or possibly Greek). Shae and Jaqen are Lorathi, with German accents. The others will follow - Lys could be French. The tricky one is Pentos - Magister Illyrio has been shown speaking with an English accent (which on the show maps to Westeros, particularly the South.
** King of zig-zagged, Mero & Tycho Nestoris of Braavos and Thoros of Myr have generally British accents, but in Thoros's case he's been in Westeros for two decades and has likely lost his accent as a result.
[[WMG: Qarth does not exist.]]
The whole city is just an illusion created by Pyat Pree.
* Jorah might agree with the idea, but Dany and the khalassar disagree when looting. Why would there be unlooted treasure in ruins, if there was no living city? Why would there be any loot at all if there are no ruins and no city?
** [[YourMindMakesItReal There is no loot.]]
*** There also weren't any chains in the tower, and we saw what happened to them because they didn't exist. The loot, on the other hand, exists because it didn't turn into dust or ashes.
*** [[XanatosSpeedChess That's what Pyat Pree wanted you to think.]]
** Alternatively, the treasures of these ruins didn't get looted until now [[FridgeBrilliance because Pyat Pree lets every potential looter think that there is a living city]].
[[WMG: The clockwork map shown in the intro will make an appearance on the show.]]
Maybe it'll be a very expensive trinket Dany and co. see in a bazaar, or perhaps one of the kings will possess such a map.
[[WMG: The depiction of Ramsay Bolton will be a Crazy Awesome troll who will rival Tyrion in terms of audience adoration.]]
Building on the above theory of Ramsay Bolton being the Hornblower simply due to sheer trollery, when he is properly introduced to the show he will near instantly garner a memetic reputation for nightmarish yet insanely hilarious dickery, as well as delivering some unspeakably satisfying and cathartic Karma to [[spoiler:a certain Mr Greyjoy]]. His horrifyingly brutality will always be tempered by extremely dark hilarity, and his abuse of "Reek" will start off almost comically petty and humiliating, before steadily becoming darker and more sadistic.
Long story short, Ramsay will be one of the best characters in the show.
* Even if he [[spoiler:forces women to eat their own fingers or run naked through the forests only to be hunted down by his dogs, raped & butchered.]] He'll do so in style!
** Roose: "My son has sent you a wedding gift, your grace. [[spoiler:"A Piece of Prince"."]]
** This troper is shuddering at the thought of the impending Woobification of Ramsay <strike>Snow</strike> Bolton.
*** DON'T YOU PICK ON MY POOR MISUNDERSTOOD BB! HE JUST NEEDS A HUG!
*** [[spoiler: Given that "The Boy" is so certain to be Ramsay that fans aren't even pretending that there is any other possibility, I'd say that he is being played completely in synch with his book counterpart. And if that's the case? Then if the general reaction over at [[TelevisionWithoutPity TWoP]] is any indication, then this is Jossed: He's rapidly becoming TheScrappy.]]
*** [[spoiler: Outside of TWOP, opinions seem to vary. Nobody's yet called him one of the best characters on the show, so technically still jossed.]]
*** [[spoiler: Judging from fan reactions in forums, youtube, facebook, tumblr e.t.c. the guy is most certainly considered CreepyAwesome and on his way to become a DracoInLeatherPants.]]
*** [[spoiler: Of course that depends on where you look. Most don't mind him, some think he's awesome and more then a few fans thinks his a {{Scrappy}} and are actively cheering for Yara's to show up and teach him a lesson. Who knew being a skinning, castrating troll who takes pleasure in stoning cripples could come off as repugnant?]]
[[WMG: It's actually VERY easy to open Xaro's vault, both from the outside and the inside]]
Of course, the vault is actually empty, hence why all the people that were offered whatever was inside still went home empty-handed. This means that Xaro will survive his incarceration [[spoiler: as he is still alive in the books canon, though perhaps not Doreah, who was KilledOffForReal.]]
* While 'went home empty-handed' can be interpreted that way, I doubt it. The key to Xaro's power is that no one knows the vault is empty. I don't think he would just let those who know go home, especially considering they must be very angry about the way he tricked them.
[[WMG: Jaqen H'ghar was caged because the man wanted to.]]
(This troper hasn't read the books yet, so he doesn't know if he's talking out of his ass.)
The man is a skilled stealth fighter, yet the first time we see him, he's locked up like a common delinquent, with other two criminals. How WAS he captured? Perhaps he ''let himself be'', in order to closely follow Arya (who the man knows to be a Stark) without raising suspicions.
* This gives more weight to the theory that he's either Syrio OR cooperating with him.
[[WMG: The world of ''Game of Thrones'' is an [[HollowWorld inverted globe]].]]
This is purely based on the map of the opening, which is indeed a hollow globe with all the continents on the inside, and the sun in the middle. If there's some kind of partially open sphere between the sun and the surface, it could account for day and night, the stars, perhaps even the Long Winters and Summers.
[[WMG: Varys is actually the true and greatest evil.]]
Lord Varys the eunch is really a dark and powerful sorcerer waiting for his best opportunity to strike. He is using the Varys skin and persona as a disguise to hide his true form which is both terrifying and gigantic. On top of that he is already mind controlling many people using his power. Maybe even Joffery.
* Well, the kings who listened to Varys' council had a tendency to either go mad (like Aerys or Joffrey) or become decadent (like Robert). In the books, there are rumors that Varys had something to do with Aerys' mental state. After [[spoiler: Varys' disappearance]] however, the king ([[spoiler: Tommen]]) has shown no sign of madness or decadence.
[[WMG: The pardon delivered to Jorah by one of Varys's little birds in Essos was a last ditch attempt to thwart/botch the assassination on Danaerys.]]
* Jorah seemed to go into sudden suspicious mode after receiving it. He put two and two together: If he was being pardoned, he wasn't needed to spy on Danaerys and was being rewarded for services rendered. And that would only mean that Danaerys would be... handled. It also gives Varys a convenient excuse to not only carry out King Robert's deathbed order of calling off the hit, but also to botch it and set things up later.
** Given how slowly mail travels in this world, this is pretty unlikely. The pardon was sent well before the assassin, Jorah simply knew enough about Robert Baratheon to anticipate an attempt.
[[WMG: Gregor Clegane was suffering from, or just suffered, Yellow Fever in the second season]]
Hence the loss in weight/muscle size. He probably contracted it while camping next to a mosquito-infested cesspool somewhere in the Riverlands.
[[WMG: Sam was not put on 'firedung collection' duty at the end of Season 2]]
Instead, he [[TagAlongKid tagged along]] Grenn and Edd because he couldn't shut up about Gilly and they are the only ones that would tolerate his talk without punching him. Hence Mormont's comment that sending the ravens was Sam's "only job".
[[WMG: The reason the showrunners have made Podrick a SexGod is...]]
George R R Martin has revealed his planned ending to Benioff and Weiss. And part of that is that Podrick Payne ends up married to Brienne of Tarth. The showrunners, realising that Brienne's many fans might not be satisfied with this, are laying the groundwork to ensure that the eventual reaction (many years from now) will be less "wait, Brienne has to settle for ''Pod''?" and more "aw yeah, Brienne's wedding night is gonna be ''epic''".
[[WMG: TV!Shae is a faceless woman]]
At one point in season 2, Tyrion is talking about people who might be dangerous and Shae responds with "I will cut off their faces." That's a very specific threat.
[[WMG: Stannis is not Shireen's real father]]
[[spoiler:Unlike in the book, where Shireen shared it along with Stannis' square jaw and some other ugly features]] Shireen has not the trademark Baratheon dark hair. Melisandre blatantly says that Selyse gave Stannis "nothing, only stillborns", and Selyse also says "I gave you nothing" when she is first introduced. When Stannis says that Shireen is his daughter and that he wants to see her (keep in mind that he has her alone in a tower and offered to name Renly his heir ahead of her last season, although that could be a bullshit offer given what happened later), Selyse says "You are ''a king''. You don't need my permission." - Not "You are ''her father''".
[[WMG: TV series isn't an adaptation of the books...]]
...it's a sequel. At the end of the last book, a ResetButton will be pressed, restoring everything to the way it was before, but without undoing the passage of time, which explains why many characters received an AgeLift. However, the characters still subconsciously remembered what happened, causing their actions to be slightly different. For example (feel free to add more):
* In the books, Ned didn't want to go to King's Landing and Catelyn talked him into going. In the series, Ned knew he was supposed to discover something and wanted to go, while Catelyn subconciously remembered losing him and tried to stop it.
* In the books, Tywin was betrayed by the Brave Companions, so TV!Tywin never hired them.
* TV!Tyrion knew not to trust Mandon Moore, so he dodged a bit earlier, saving his nose.
* At some point between the ResetButton and the start of the TV series, Willas and Garlan Tyrell died, making Loras the heir to the Highgarden.
* Edric Storm, to avoid almost being sacrificed, found himself a better hiding place.
[[WMG: Euron Greyjoy will be more skilled and powerful in magic in the show then in the books.]]
Similar to Pyat Pree's own AdaptationalBadass state, when Euron comes in, he will similarly so have more powerful and notable magical abilities, being a quasi-Warlock himself like Pree.
[[WMG: Sam will get the dragonglass back from [[spoiler:Coldhands]]]]
This way, he'll firmly establish himself as a well intended character that can be trusted [[spoiler:despite his uninviting aspect and nature. Even if Coldhands saved Gilly and Sam from wights like in the book, they (and the viewers) would still have reasons to wonder if this is just a bigger fish situation.]]
* Unlikely as of "Mhysa" ([[spoiler: Sam is back at Castle Black and Coldhands' part in leading him to the other side of the Wall has been cut]]) though technically still not jossed.
[[WMG: Shae is Lord Tywin's spy.]]
Whether or not she was one from the start, she seems both too improbable and all too beneficial to Tywin's purposes to be a coincidence. A camp follower who turns out to be not just extremely devoted, but outright clingy and jealous for her highborn employer? She keeps Tyrion from frequenting brothels like he used to, just as Tywin would want it, and Tyrion keeps her hidden in turn due to Tywin's threats. Also, the way she keeps begging Tyrion to just abdicate with her to the Free Cities would suit Tywin just fine, since he'd like nothing more than to have an excuse to disown Tyrion and make sure that he no longer embarrases the Lannister house with his existence. Finally, Tywin must know that the way he treats Tyrion isn't going to improve his loyalty to his family, and he must have an informant close to him to ensure that he doesn't start to plot against his house or the King in revenge.
[[WMG: Pyat Pree is still alive.]]
People seem to accept his death a bit to easily. We need to remember 2 things:
* 1) He is still alive in the books.
* 2) He can make copies of himself and the one we see die could be just another copy.
** We don't have confirmation that he's alive in the books; indeed, the implication is that he was killed by Euron and fed to two other warlocks.
[[WMG: In the far future, Tyrion will be worshiped as the god of tits and wine.]]
Because it is too good not to be so.
[[WMG:Series!Joffrey is asexual.]]
Or, rather, he has no interest in sex per se. He gets off solely on violence and torture. He would have raped Sansa, but not because he was attracted to her - he just wanted to see her suffer.
* This really doesn't seem to be the case. Joffrey often appears sexually turned on. Unfortunately the only thing that does turn him on is violence, directly or indirectly. That is not the same thing as asexuality, however.
** Without Joff having any nude scenes to see if he's getting an erection, we can't say that he's getting sexually turned on, just excited by violence.
[[WMG: The Karstarks will become important.]]
Robb's army was destroyed by Frey and Bolton treachery and Tywin has named Roose Bolton Warden of the North. But remember that the Karstarks still have their army, they marched home after Robb killed Lord Karstark. So, the heir of House Karstark might still contest Roose Bolton's claim in one way or another.
** Book spoilers: [[spoiler: The Karstarks actually end up being Bolton supporters in the book, aligning with Stannis and being TheMole for Roose. This holds true with the show as well.]]
[[WMG: Volantis will (secretly or openly) send men to Westeros to kill Freys.]]
The Maegyr are an important family in Volantis, and Talisa's parents will probably not take her murder lightly. So they might either hire mercenaries, or use their influence in the city government, or both, in order to get some revenge for their daughter. (Whoever they send might join the Brotherhood in the end, especially since [[spoiler: they'll have more or less the same goal as Stoneheart]].)
** Specifically, her younger brother-the one about whom she told Robb the story about his almost drowning as a child-will show up seeking answers and revenge. This show loves to have parallel storylines which reflect and contrast each other, and we're already going to have Oberyn Martell and Yara Greyjoy seeking revenge/rescue for their lost siblings, as well as Edmure Tully grieving Cat's murder. We'll get an episode focusing on these four characters.
** Since Volantis ultimately plays a minor but important role in the fifth novel (with hints of a slave revolt brewing that may soon shift the balance of power), perhaps the added Volantene connection in the show will factor into this somehow.
[[WMG: Old Nan was right all along. They really do live inside the eye of a blue-eyed giant named [=MacCumber=].]]
This completely explains the wonky seasons in [=ASOIF=] (stick with me on this one). [=MacCumber=] is so huge that the entire world fits inside his eyeball, and WeAreAsMayflies compared to him. When [=MacCumber=] blinks it lasts for hours, and that's what the world knows as "night". When [=MacCumber=] goes to bed it lasts for months or years, and that's what the world knows as "winter". The Southern kingdoms are at the back of [=MacCumber's=] eyeball, and that's why they're so much warmer (they get direct unobstructed sunlight). The North and the Land of Always Winter are on the sides of [=MacCumber's=] eyeball, and the lack of direct sunlight makes them colder.
[[WMG: Khal Drogo will come back]]
When Dany asked Mirri Maz Duur "When will he (Khal Drogo) be as he was?", MMD replied "When the sun rises in the West and sets in the East. When the seas go dry and the mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again and you bear a living child. Then he will return and not before." Now that sounds like a poetic way of saying "Never," but there are so many prophecies that contain "impossible" occurrences that end up occurring (eg. "When Burnam Wood shall come to Dunsinane") that I wonder if they might not actually occur. Maybe a volcanic eruption ("The mountain moving" causing the sky to light up "in the West") of some sort - though it needs elaboration.
* BOOK SPOILER! [[spoiler:While you can never tell with prophecy, that may just have happened by the end of the fifth book. The son who rose in the west and set in the east is a Dornish prince who died on Essos. The Dothraki sea is undergoing a drought, and the mountainous pyramids of Meereen, the third slaver city after Astapor and Yunkai, were overset by Daenerys's dragons. And Dany found blood on her thighs for the first time since her son's stillbirth. Book Five has a ''lot'' of particularly cryptic stuff, but once the fandom pieced ''this'' together... And trust me, we feel pretty cheated after his cameo at the Houses of the Undying, which was invented whole-cloth for the show.]]
[[WMG: Westeros has a PortalNetwork]]
It explains how Littlefinger managed to randomly be everywhere in season two. With the birth of the dragons and the return of magic in season one, Littlefinger decided to test it out by activating his own network, which he used to get around. It also explains why this happens less in seasons after this: he knows it works, and so he can rely on mundane means now rather than whatever unreliable BloodMagic (which is basically how magic works in Westeros) the portals use.
[[WMG: The series will jump ahead in time]]
Pure WMG here. Martin initially planned but discarded the idea of doing a time-jump between books III and IV. Since the series appears to be vaulting ahead on some of the slower-moving plot lines (like Brienne's and Bran's) and it seems unlikely that we are going to get some of the plotlines from Book IV (Dorne, the Kingsmoot) at all, it seems possible that the show will do what Martin did not. Between seasons 4 and 5, two years will pass. This will help with the problem that the young actors are visibly aging faster than their characters.
* This would have also have the advantage of cutting down on the drawn-out qualities that both Jon and Dany's plotlines have in Book V.
[[WMG: The Starks are (unbeknownst to themselves) the human incarnations of the 7]]
The seven Starks of Winterfell, Ned, Caitlyn, Robb, Sansa, Bran, Arya and Rickon are the earthly manifestations of the Seven.
* Ned is the Father, as he represents justice and honor, and he serves as Father to the Starks
* Caitlyn, while born a Tully, is still a Stark by marriage, and serves as the Mother
* Robb is the Warrior, as his strength in battle and battlefield command are great enough to decimate the Lannister forces.
* Sansa is the Maiden, as the chaste, innocent and ladylike Stark daughter.
* Arya is likely the Stranger, due to her fascination with the god of death, and her connection to ones such as Jaqen H'ghar
The last two are somewhat tricky, since they are given less import during their screen time due to their age and relative unimportance to the plot, but:
* Bran is named after the Founder of the Stark House, Bran, the Builder, which seems to indicate he is possibly the Smith. In addition, his nature as a "broken thing" possibly indicates, with some irony, that he is intended to be the Smith.
* Rickon, lastly, would be the Crone. This is probably the weakest connection, but as the Crone represents wisdom, it is possible that his wisdom has simply not been seen yet, due to his age. Likewise, if there is irony intended with the "broken thing" of Bran to be the Smith, it is possible Rickon exhibits similar irony, in being the youngest Stark, but still the crone.
Under this theory, it is quite possible that all Starks will "die" and either this will mean that the seven will be dead (leading to another faith, such as the red faith taking it's place) or that they will return to their immortal forms by the end of the books.
** The only problem with this theory is that the Starks are more commonly associated with the Old Gods and worship of the weirwood trees. That is very important for Bran in particular but also Jon (who takes his Night's Watch oaths at a godswood along with Sam, who decides to convert then and there). Even Sansa spends a lot of time at the godswood. Arya meanwhile seems to have caught on to the Braavosi God of Death. So, even there the Starks are not associated with one specific religion over the other.
[[WMG: The White Walkers [[spoiler: just like babies.]]]]
And they're invading Westeros in order to stop [[spoiler: all of the crimes against babies that are going on down there.]]
Their wrath could have first been triggered by the [[spoiler: deaths of the Targaryen children and the no doubt numerous child deaths that occurred during the sack of King's Landing and the rest of Robert's Rebellion.]] Then Craster [[spoiler: starts leaving out his sons who they graciously adopt and make their own.]] They begin to amass in numbers, just in case. And then the War of the Five Kings starts, [[spoiler: Robert's bastards except for Gendry are hunted down and killed]], which only serves to piss off the White Walkers further, along with the death of [[spoiler: Dany's unborn son]].
They aren't mindless evil ice demons, [[spoiler: they're doing it all for teh behbehs.]]
Everyone they've killed? [[spoiler: Guilty of crimes against babies.]] That's why they keep not killing Sam despite having ample opportunity to do so as well as the ability. He's innocent of [[spoiler: baby hurting.]] The White Walker Sam killed looked so pissed that Sam killed him because [[spoiler: he was just trying to help, man! What's the big deal, stabbin' him like that?]]
When the White Walkers descend, they will usher in a new age of [[spoiler: child welfare, and Westeros needs it.]]
[[WMG: [[spoiler: Lady Stoneheart's debut appearance]]]]
* Too much time has passed in-universe for [[spoiler: Lady Stoneheart's resurrection]] to happen onscreen. So what if instead of seeing [[spoiler: her condemn some random Frey mook]], the show waits for [[spoiler: Brienne's meeting with her]] to reveal that [[spoiler: she's alive?]] There can be rumors of [[spoiler: the brotherhood being led by some coldhearted]] person that no one lives to report back on, and then BOOM! [[spoiler: Stoneheart captures Brienne in season 5 or 6 and the audience is as surprised as she is.]]
[[WMG: Robin will fly!]]
It's practically a given that Littlefinger will get rid of Lysa Arryn as soon as possible. Afterwards, he'll use his "stepfather" position to consolidate his power in The Vale, and after he no longer needs Robin, he'll shove the dumb kid down the moon gate.
* He had it coming, mind you. Throwing an expensive crystal bird figure through it, in full view of the one who presented him with the gift? That's not proper protocol.
** In 4x07 Robin says that he will throw off the Moon Door anyone that annoys her, then proceeds to annoy her... he, he.
[[WMG: Gendry will travel to the Eyrie and befriend Sansa.]]
* He will run into a nobleman from the Vale, who will realize that he is one of Robert's bastards. The nobleman will bring Gendry to the Eyrie, where he will befriend Sansa/Alayne, taking some of Mya Stone's role from the books.
[[WMG: Sansa will do [[SlowlySlippingIntoEvil increasingly vile things]] while playing the game.]]
Her mentor, Littlefinger, is almost the classic underdog, starting at the very bottom of the ladder and gaining massive amounts of power despite his weak position, only unlike the typical underdog, he's not at all meant to be cheered on. With the terrible life Sansa has lead so far, it's safe to say that she, too, is an underdog of sorts, and thus may end up walking the same path her teacher strode...[[DeceptiveDisciple right after trampling him underfoot.]] Plus, many fans are extremely excited that Sansa's now playing the game and possibly preparing to get back at her tormentors, and GRRM's not exactly shy about turning his audience's joy into ash in their mouths.
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[[WMG: Tywin intentionally provoked Tyrion into killing him]]
Remember what happened earlier in the episode? Cersei told him about herself and Jaime. Realising that everything he had worked for has failed, Tywin saw no reason to live anymore. So, when Tyrion appeared with a crossbow, Tywin, at least subconsciously, wanted Tyrion to kill him and provoked him by calling Shae a whore.
[[WMG: There are more than three living dragons.]]
It's been a long while since I've read the books and I don't know if this has been expanded upon or pointed out, so bear with me. During Bran's first dream where he encounters the three eyed crow, he is falling endlessly until just before he hits the ground. At that point, he begins flying and sees everything that is going on with the other characters. He sees Robb training with a real sword for the first time. He sees Catelyn in her cabin as she sales across the Bite and Ser Rodrick getting seasick on the deck of the ship. He sees Ned arguing with Robert over the fight between their children, followed by Sansa crying and Arya laying awake in her bed quietly. He sees Jon sleeping at Castle Black, or at least near it.
These are all things that happened or were foreshadowed in the previous chapters, all things that really happened. Before he sees Jon, Bran flies across the narrow sea to Essos, over Vaes Dothrak and ultimately over Asshai.
'''"He lifted his eyes and saw clear across the Narrow Sea, to the Free Cities and the green Dothraki sea and beyond, to Vaes Dothrak under its mountain, to the fabled lands of the Jade Sea, to Asshai by the Shadow, where dragons stirred beneath the sunrise."'''
Everything else Bran sees in his dreams are things that are happening at that very moment. At this point in the story, Danaerys had yet to hatch her dragon eggs, yet Bran sees dragons stirring beneath the sunrise. I don't think that was just thrown in for flavor, I believe that dragons other than Dany's are still living in the mysterious Asshai by the shadow.
* In that context, "stirred" could be used in a past tense to refer to the fact that dragons had once stirred there, but no longer do currently.
[[WMG: Olyvar will play the role of the Blue Bard]]
Rather than suddenly introducing a new character, Cersei will torture Olyvar instead. He already has a link established with the Tyrells, to an extent.
[[WMG: Podrick didn't have sex with those prostitutes.]]
Despite being absolutely -ahem- fascinated by these ladies, Podrick actually chose not to go on with the act, maybe because of a moral reason like Jon's or because he's a hopeless romantic or whatever. But he didn't want to tell Tyrion, so the prostitutes came up with this idea just to pull Tyrion's leg (and the whole town's, for that matter). That's why they told Ros the experience was "hard to describe" because there was nothing to describe, and of course because they wanted to keep the mystery. And think about it, if so many prostitutes were dying to sleep with Pod for free, what would keep him from visiting one every once in a while, which we never see him doing? I know the fact that it wasn't shown on screen doesn't have to mean it didn't happen, but then why would he still get so utterly captivated by the elastic lady's body that he gets totally lost looking at her.
[[WMG: The Night's King will be the one behind [[spoiler: Lady Stoneheart]].]]
A change from the books, but it will be used to show the White Walkers ''aren't'' taking their game and gaining influence in Westeros. This goes with the theory that the Night's King [[spoiler:is connected to the Starks, and thus, he'd be using Stoneheart!Lady Stark as his proxy.]]
[[WMG: GRRM created the word "Khaleesi" by warping "Colossus"]]
Listen to the Game Grumps near the end of episode 10 in their Shadow of the Colossus Let's Play.
[[WMG: Braavos will eventually be conquered by some family to cancel their debts and seize the Iron Bank's gold.]]
* The Iron Bank will be revealed to be a massive fraud. They only have gold plated iron bars in their bank.
** Why do you think they are called the Iron Bank rather than the Gold Bank?
** Foreshadowed by the "Richest" man in Qarth story line.
** The Iron Bank isn't rich because they have lots of physical gold in their vaults, but because of all the debts owed to them across the world. That is not fraud, but capitalism. Whether they also have a large reserve of gold or not is irrelevant.
** Invading Bravos will be extremely difficult due to all the natural barriers surrounding the city, and it being the home of the Faceless Men. Not to mention the Iron Bank can easily gain allies by paying them off or cancelling their debts.
[[WMG: Melissandre was never a slave]]
The story she tells Gendry is word by word the same told by the red priestess in Volantis to the slave crowd. Evidently, it is a pre-written speech that red priests tell to people to gain their trust, and has nothing to do with reality.
** Slaves are hardly a rare species in Essos, and it makes sense that the Red God would be popular among several freed slaves since the Priesthood is more social mobility then they can get anywhere else. In the books, a POV chapter confirms she was indeed a slave and bought at an auction. The TV show could tell us something different anyway so who knows.
[[WMG:Daario is behind the Sons of the Harpy]]
Daario was instrumental in conquering Yunkai and Meereen for Dany. However, ever since he got in her bed he has done nothing but hurting her position.
'''Daario lived in Meereen before Daenerys came'''. He used to be a slave in the Fighting Pits, the ones Dany closed after taking the city, where he gained skills, fame, money and his freedom. Daario boasts that his Second Sons blend into the Meereenese easily. This is because many of them are likely Meereneese themselves, veterans of the Fighting Pits like him. Then come out of nowhere the Sons of the Harpy, this mysterious group that also blends easily in the Meereneese, wants the city to be like it was before Dany (including reopening the Fighting Pits) and whose members are armed and trained in close combat. Why? Because the Second Sons ''are'' the Sons of the Harpy!
'''The Son of the Harpy arrested was a patsy'''. He was arrested by ''Daario'', when the Unsullied were about to leave the place. Other than hearsay from the Second Sons, the only evidence that he was the Son of the Harpy that had killed White Rat was that he had a bronze mask with him. However, Dany only knew that the Sons of the Harpy had killed White Rat because the guy who did it left a bronze mask over his body. The guy was wearing only one mask, so if he left it on White Rat he shouldn't have one when Daario arrested him. Furthermore, Daario prevents Dany's council from interrogating the prisoner arguing that he has interrogated him himself and has found that he has no useful information. We have no evidence of this but Daario's word.
'''Daario offers the worst advice.''' He wants Dany to reopen the Fighting Pits, a symbol of life in Meereen when it was controlled by the Masters. He wants her to release the dragons after they killed a child, even though she can't control them and one of them is still on the run. He was all for going to war with Yunkai again and killing the masters that did not bow last season, but Jorah talked her out of it. He executed Mossador, and he did it quick without giving her a chance to reconsider even though it was obvious that the crowd was getting pissed. And finally...
'''Daario pressed Barristan to leave the Great Pyramid for no apparent reason.''' By ''sheer coincidence'', the Sons of the Harpy attack just then and leave Grey Worm and Barristan grievously injured.
Why does he do this? Well, if Dany leaves Meereen the Unsullied do as well, if she's killed they are left with no reason to stay either. Who's left to assume control of Meereen? The Second Sons, with Daario at their head.
** I think we can safely call this jossed after episode 9. If Daario ''was'' with the Sons, he passed up multiple golden opportunities to either kill her or let her die, and they were trying just as hard to kill him as anyone else. Sure, you could argue that they got dangerously close to killing her on his watch, but the unsullied failed to spot the Harpies, either, and Daario isn't responsible for them.
** Also, the show doesn't portray ''all'' of Daario's advice as the worst, even if you consider it to be. Tyrion backs up opening the fighting pits as a good concession on her part, for instance. And if she had taken Daario's advice and "cleared" the city of the Sons of the Harpy district by district instead of playing Dragon Roulette with Meereen's nobles, the attack at the arena might not have happened.
[[WMG:Olenna will engineer Cersei's downfall.]]
Since she's far more adept at playing the long game than Cersei, Olenna will undoubtedly manipulate the Sparrows into turning against Cersei.
* Semi-confirmed, Littlefinger, working with her, brought Lancel to the attention of the High Sparrow, who proceeded to arrest Cersei on the charge of incest.
[[WMG:Theon has a bastard son.]]
The son's mother is the daughter of the captain of the ship which took Theon to the Iron Isles. Theon will eventually become King of the Iron Islands and will aid the Starks in the wars. This ironically is the reason he was originally sent there.
[[WMG:Bran has been warging into Drogon]]
Even though Bran was confirmed to not appear in season 5, he was told in the season 4 finale that "he would never walk again, but he would fly". Thus far in season 5, Drogon has been acting uncharacteristically flighty. Season 4 established him as being the most aggressive of the dragons, in addition to being responsible for the carnage that Rhaegal and Viserion were locked up for.
So what caused the change in Drogon's mood? Why appear meek to Daenerys after the riot in Mereen, and then simply take off without causing mass chaos as he'd done before? Why is Drogon just flying around, even going as far south as Valyria? He might be following his instincts, or it might be Bran flying with him.
[[WMG: Tyene and Bronn will be an item]]
She thinks he's handsome, and he will admire her for bring him as close to death as he's ever come. To take it a step further, he will stay in Dorne with her. With Tyrion gone, and Lollys engaged to someone else, he has no reason to return to King's Landing. And it would be funny after all his comments about the Dornish being crazy.
** Alternatively Tyene will take on the role of Arianne and tempt Bronn to kidnap or kill Myrcella. Forcing Bronn to become both Arys Oakheart and Darkstar at the same time and be killed by Jaime.
[[WMG: Season 6 will have a Holy War]]
The power brokers of Kings Landing will take note of the religious revival of Rhillorism and the arrival of Dany, as well as the Old Gods and tell the Sparrows to go and fight the new religions. This will get the Sparrows and the Faith Militant off to fight a religious war in winter citing them as a ConflictKiller.
[[WMG: The Night's King will not feature in the Novels.]]
* The Showrunners decided to introduce him as one of their divergences from the books, and he is not something they got from their insider knowledge that Martin's given them. Rather, they lifted the idea from Creator/GreenRonin's invented White Walker/Other big bad, the King of Winter, tweaking the concept a bit to call him the Night's King to make him more recognizable to book readers.
* Partly confirmed. George RR Martin stated that he intended the Night's King to be a made up in-universe story, and intends it to be a legend and not TheLegendOfChekhov.
[[WMG: Tormund just [[spoiler: accidentally killed Mance.]]]]
* [[spoiler: Melissandre actually DID switch Mance and Rattleshirt, and somehow managed to get him to Hardhome. Then [[ShaggyDogStory Tormund killed the person he THOUGHT was Rattleshirt, but actually killed Mance instead.]]]] Because that would be hilarious.
[[WMG: The White Walkers are symbolism for global warming]]
* A major, weather-related threat to the World knocking at its door that its leaders are largely ignoring so they can focus on petty political squabbles instead, some of them even claiming it's only a legend despite all the evidence to the contrary, dismissing the people warning them about it and only acting in a very superficial manner by putting a vestigial group of people in charge of fixing it, without actually giving them the means to do so. Of course, in the case of Game of Thrones, it's more like Global Freezing/Zombification, but you get the idea.
** Confirmed to a point. WordOfGod said that it didn't occur to him at the time but he does accept that it has {{Applicability}} to it now.
[[WMG:Anyone Can Die will play a role in the White Walker storyline]]
* If the White Walkers defeat the Night's Watch and Widlings, they cross the Wall and start reviving the characters who have died since the beginning of the series as wights. Most of the character's deaths have pushed plotlines forward, but it would be interesting if all the dead characters in Westeros come back to fight for the White Walkers. The living characters of each House in Westeros put aside their vendettas, political scrabbles, and greed to team up against the White Walkers. If they do not team up, all of Westeros will be screwed.They are forced to ally with Dany Targaryen since she has dragon's fire breathing powers to take out the White Walkers. It would be great way to end the series since it has been building up all these tangled stroylines to diverge into one epic final battle.
[[WMG: Ramsay Snow is the real hero]]
Since the showrunners have an absolute man crush on Bolton and elevate him into ridiculous levels of VillainSue via AdaptationalBadass, he's going to rape and marry Dany, secretly be Azor Ahai, defeat the Night's King in single combat without a Valyrian steel sword, rise to the Iron Throne and be given a lifelong pardon by the High Sparrow and the Old Gods to rape and hunt women for the rest of his life with all impunity.
* At the end of Season 5, he's well on his way to his destiny, outfitted with PlotArmor.
** [[spoiler:Jossed gloriously by his KarmicDeath at the hands of Sansa.]]
[[WMG:Hizdahr really was the leader of the Sons of the Harpy.]]
Hizdahr was the original leader of the Sons of the Harpy, and he formed the group as a way to try and force Daenerys to restore Meereen's old traditions. However, it soon became a case of GoneHorriblyRight. After Hizdahr achieved his objectives of restoring the pit fights with becoming Daenerys' husband as a bonus, the rest of the Sons of the Harpy began to see his marriage as a betrayal to them. During the pit fight, when Hizdahr returns from making "preparations", he was really making sure the Sons of the Harpy were ready to attack in case Daenerys reneged on her promise. However, the Sons of the Harpy took the chance to betray and eliminate Hizdahr.
[[WMG: Arya's unnamed roommate is actually the new faceless-Arya]]
In a {{FightClub}} -esque {{MindScrew}},the Arya we've been seeing is just the part of her that is still clinging to her "Arya Stark" identity, and the other girl is her new alter-ego (or, non-ego) -- the part that is succeeding at becoming "nobody".
[[WMG: The Iron Throne is important but not for the reason everybody thinks.]]
One theory about Valyrian steel is that it is iron forged by dragon's breath. All the swords of the iron throne were transmuted into Valyrian steel when they were "forged in the fiery breath of Balerion the Dread." Valyrian steel is one of the few things that can kill a White Walker.
[[WMG: Alternative to the above, in Season 6 Cersei will have her maester revive Myrcella like he did with Gregor]]
The boat will arrive to King's Landing, and Jaime or Trystane will sadly carry Myrcella to her childhood home. Cersei will deny the possibility to bury her, and possibly the First Sparrow would refuse Myrcella at the sept anyways. So Qyburn will step in to aid his Queen once again, and revive Myrcella for Cersei. Obviously this will be bad, and it doesn't circumvent the childhood prophecy given to Cersei at the start of season 5. But how bad? No idea, knock yourselves out.
* She'll end up being basically an undead, female Joffrey. Sweet dreams.
[[WMG: In season 6, Daario and Jorah will do some things that got cut out of Tyrion's and Jorah's story in season 5]]
They will join a sellsword company working for Yunkai (possibly the Golden Company), and will try to make them switch sides.
[[WMG: Sam will rediscover the process of smithing Valyrian steel]]
Seems possible.
[[WMG: Jon Snow's suspected parentage, the necessity of royal blood for Melisandre's magic and him getting stabbed to death are going to add up to something]]
Insert obligatory "R+L=J" comment.
[[WMG: The Mad King wasn't really mad]]
* He had good reasons for burning his enemies alive since they were demons who could only be killed by fire.
[[WMG: Sansa's statement in the last episode of season 5 that "I know WHAT Ramsay is" was significant foreshadowing.]]
* The "incredible plans" he had for Sansa's lady parts was to transplant them to Theon thereby making Theon literally his bitch.
[[WMG: If Jaime returns to King's Landing, he will found out about Cersei's fornication and dump her]]
Face it, he'll learn eventually that Cersei slept with Lancel. There's likely no chance that he'll forgive her for cheating on him and will not be her champion once Cersei calls for a trial by combat for her crimes. With that, Ser Robert Strong will take his place as Cersei's champion.
[[WMG: Melisandre does not serve the Red God]]
* She is simply a powerful witch who has deluded herself into thinking that she does. Her blood magic allows her to fake divine miracles and her gift of The Sight allows her to be aware of the Red God's prophecies, but she is not a true acolyte and thus her visions come without wisdom. She manufactured the Azor Ahai as Stannis Barathion out of a need for there to be one and due to her flawed visions when she should have sought-out Beric Dondarrion.
[[WMG: Dany will learn to fight]]
Let's face it, after the shit in Meereen it's pretty clear she needs to learn how to defend herself effectively, especially if she still intends to take Westeros. My best guess here is that she'll either learn a Dothraki fighting style in honor of Khal Drogo or have one of the Unsullied teach her. The reasoning being that the knghts that she will be battling will be unfamiliar with those styles of combat
[[WMG:Doran approves of the death of Myrcella and is using Jamie for the Fire and Blood plot]]
Seen this brought up. Doran approaves of the death of Myrcella as revenge for the murder of Elia by The Mountain, not for the death of Oberyn. The ship Jaime and Bronn are on is a Martell ship and thus both men will be held captive as it travels to Mareen. The plan is for Trystane to offer a marriage alliance with Dany and Jamie is a 'wedding present'
* Jossed. Doran is not book!Doran who is TheChessmaster and doesn't know about the poisoning until he got Jaime's latter. Also Jaime and Bronn went back to King's Landing with Myrcella's body. And it's unlikely that there's going to be an alliance with Dany since Trystane is gone.
[[WMG:House Reyne was founded by a Lannister bastard]]
Their House was founded by a Lannister bastard named Rain. Rain was a bastard's named at the time. For some reason they were able to found a house. They changed their name to Reyne. The Lannisters despised them, for they had similar wealth and even took the lion on their coat of arms. The destruction of the house was mainly out of spite.
[[WMG: Stannis wasn't himself when he sacrificed Shireen.]]
Melisandre used one of her concoctions on him to make him lose his better judgement.
[[WMG: Sansa is already pregnant by Ramsay.]]
Of course she is. Because nothing good can ever happen to her.
[[WMG: Stannis will get a posthumous dying grace]]
Shipments of dragonglass will begin coming into the Night's Watch from Dragonstone, Stannis having sent word for such before he left Castle Black.
[[WMG: Brienne will have a KarmicDeath for murdering Stannis]]
* She might end up being killed by one of his supporters, like Davos.
[[WMG: Dany will find common cause with the Martells]]
* Tellingly, in her conversation with Tyrion leading up to her "Break the wheel" speech, neither Dorne nor the Martells are brought up. Indeed, given how neither were really involved in either Robert's Rebellion or the War of the Five Kings, it'd make sense that she would find no reason to strike at them. But given their mutual distrust with the rest of Westeros, it'd make sense that she might at least find them convenient allies.
[[WMG: Yara Greyjoy will become captain of the Iron Fleet]]
The series has been streamlining the narrative by eliminating and conflating minor characters. One casualty of this is going to be Victarion Greyjoy. Instead, Yara -- who is clearly not going to be captured by Stannis at this point in the narrative -- will take his role leading the Ironborn to Essos.
[[WMG: Stannis is now a RevenantZombie CursedWithAwesome.]]
This theory first came to me when I was wondering how Stannis, and Stannis alone, survived that battle. My answer: he didn't. The Lord of Light intervened after the battle and brought him back, unaided by any priest (magic is getting stronger, remember). However, this isn't because he's Azor Ahai. Accepting that the Lord of Light is a GoodIsNotNice god, burning Shireen could very well have been a SecretTestOfCharacter that Stannis royally screwed the pooch on. Now the Lord of Light has made him unkillable to prolong his suffering. Season 6 will open with Brienne hacking him to pieces again and again, and the pieces reassembling themselves, until she feels better.
[[WMG: The Lightbringer is going to look like [[http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Shishkebab_(Fallout_3)?file=F3Shish01.jpg this]]]]
...well probably not, but that would simply be the most awesome thing ever. Matti23
[[WMG: The Boltons' flaming flayed man is...]]
Stannis. The sight of a flayed stag seen ever-so-briefly in the Telltale game was shrewd foreshadowing of the highest degree. Things seem to be turning in direction of a second attempt at reclaiming Winterfell, by a host that seems likely to include poor Davos. The fire is ironic mockery on par with what was done with Robb's corpse... "Here comes the Son of Fire!" With what we know of the Boltons' "treatment" of prisoners, it seems like Stannis was lucky to go out the way he did...
[[WMG: Blackfish will be a CompositeCharacter to Lady Stoneheart and Wyman Manderly]]
He might be the one who will hang the Freys with a possible alliance with the Brotherhood Without Banners and [[spoiler:make those Frey pies and offer them to Jaime]].
[[WMG: Arya will learn to warg]]
Since she got blinded, Arya would ended up discovering her warg powers when she starts having dreams of her inside her direwolf, Nymeria, who is hunting in the Riverlands. This would become useful in her training as a Faceless Man.
[[WMG: The Wildings will take over the Dreadfort]]
And they'll settle in Bolton lands, eventually.
[[WMG: The Night's Watch will collapse]]
The Night's Watch will be yet again divided between the mutineers loyal to Ser Alliser and those who ultimately remained loyal to Jon (i.e. Edd). After a struggle that will most likely happen if Jon gets resurrected, Jon & company will be forced to desert/flee Castle Black and take refuge with the Wildlings while the mutineers take over Castle Black. Jon will shift his focus towards taking the North back from the Boltons, while the Night's Watch will end up becoming the first victims of the White Walkers south of the wall.
[[WMG: The entire Dorne arc is executed poorly by design]]
Because what with the death of Shae (who was cast for similar reasons) at the end of season four, they had no big players to distract viewers from Emilia Clarke's poor acting by means of comparison (the fact that her arc progression had slowed down to a crawl around this time didn't help). Enter the Sand Snakes, hapless ''Xena'' rejects whose godlike levels of cringe could make Megan Fox look like Helen Mirren. As a consequence, they'll stick around until someone worse comes along... at which point, the White Walkers might as well come and end it all. It is known...
[[WMG: The Harpy will be...]]
...either a choice between Daario/Missandei/Varys. Since the show is going ahead of the books and making drastic changes and the context of Meereen's society is not properly developed. The show will go for the simpler Murder Mystery plot and have things NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize especially since Hizdahr is dead and presented as a Red Herring. The Harpy is well organized, effective and operates with inside knowledge. The only ones who fit and have the required narrative heft to pull this off is Daario or Varys or Missandei. What are their motives?
# Varys manufactured the Harpy to manipulate Daenerys into the ruler he wants her to be, to play the role he needs her to fulfill. He's manipulated from the background since Season 1 and obviously he has to have some big game and payoff to compensate for TheReveal at the end of Book 5 which has been AdaptedOut. Him being the Harpy will prove how this ApparentlyPowerlessPuppetmaster has been TheOmniscient all along.
# Missandei is a long-shot but needs to be included simply because she's a named Essosi character with an ambiguous future role. She has inside information on Dany, is incredibly smart and sharp. She's also the one who convinces Dany to marry Hizdahr. The reason she manufactured the Harpy is that she doesn't want her to go to Westeros, she's a PossessionSue who wants Mhysa to stay in Slaver's Bay forever.
# Daario has always been a bad boy. In Season 3, he single-handedly hijacked the Second Sons, and helped Dany take over a city. He's also the man in charge of the Meereen City Watch. Pretty well organized and military man who was also in charge of security at the Fighting Pits when all those Harpy Men marched into the crowds. He had means, he had opportunity. As for motivations...he's Daario, who cares.
[[WMG: Brienne will give Oathkeeper to Sansa]]
And she will use it to personally END HOUSE BOLTON.
[[WMG: Melissandre's vision of Jon Snow fighting in Winterfell will come true]]
With Jon's resurrection, her vision will come true. But in a different way than we think. It is made clear that the Starks and Bolton's will battle, but from the looks of things from the trailers, they won't be fighting at Winterfell. I believe that the vision foreshadows a Stark victory (supported by the newly arrived army from the Vale), and the vision of Jon fighting at Winterfell will be him and his army killing Ramsay and the few Bolton troops he has left.
[[WMG: Resurrected Jon will be a CompositeCharacter with Lady Stoneheart]]
Hence why Lady Stoneheart was cut out; two Starks returned fom the dead and out for revenge would be a bit much. And it seems like the sort of thing the show would do: they'll bring back everyone's fave and one of the few genuinely good people in Westeros... but when he comes back, he's not himself anymore.
[[WMG: Nymeria Sand will die in Season 6 because of her actress’ commitment to ''Series/IronFist2016'']]
Since Jessica Henwick is cast as one of the main leads in the Marvel Netflix show, it’s possible that Nymeria might die at some point in Season 6. Similar to the books, she will be in King’s Landing; however, she might be there to kidnap or kill someone (maybe Tommen, Kevan, Pycelle etc.). Then, she encounters Ser Robert Strong who will kill her in possibly the most brutal way (maybe similar to how her father died or not). Of course, Finn Jones is also cast as Comicbook/IronFist but he didn’t say if Loras will not survive Season 6.
[[WMG: Ellaria does not have full control of Dorne]]
Seriously, why would everyone (and I mean, everyone) in Dorne would follow a bastard woman who is not a Martell or not even married to Martell? There are probably some Dornish houses who are still loyal to Doran (maybe House Yronwood or House Tolland) and they wouldn’t forgive Ellaria for murdering their liege lord and ordered the Sand Snakes to commit kinslaying. It’s possible that there would be a civil war in Dorne and since Ellaria is not as smart as Littlefinger or Tywin, she might get overthrown.
[[WMG: Either Lord Karstark or Smalljon Umber will conspire against Ramsay and arrange Sansa to marry one of them]]
While they seem to ally with Ramsay for now, it might not last due to their own ambitions and Ramsay is a psychotic murderer. And rather than kill Sansa, it might be better to have her widowed and be eligible to marry one of them and then have control of the North legitimately. That is if they find her and convince her to go along with the plan.
[[WMG: Kevan Lannister and Pycelle will be killed on orders from Qyburn in the adaptation.]]
This happens by way of [[spoiler:Varys]] in the books. Since he's elsewhere, he's replaced (by the writers on a meta level and by the Lannisters in-universe) with Qyburn. [[spoiler:Qyburn has already been shown turning Varys's 'little birds' to his side.]] The motives will also be different. [[spoiler:Varys was working in an attempt to destabilize the Lannisters, possibly opening the door for (fake?) Aegon.]] In this case, it will be on Cersei's orders, which will obviously leave an open spot on the Council, where Cersei will advise Tommen to name the most "natural" replacement for the position - Jaime Lannister. This will allow the 'Royal Family' to essentially rule together as King, Queen Mother, and King's Hand. (Of course, Tommen actually being a pretty nice guy and this being Game of Thrones and all, things will quickly find a way to go to hell in a handbasket by the following episode.)
* In s06e08, Varys makes a journey to King's Landing, leaving Mereen in the hands of Tyrion. Perhaps the show will follow the books in this way after all.
[[WMG: Jon Snow will join the White Walkers.]]
After losing everything he ever believed in, and then being killed by people he thought he could trust, he's finally had enough of everyone and everything. Season 6 will end with him kneeling before the Night's King and offering his sword in service to wiping Westeros clean.
[[WMG: Someone will take over Casterly Rock from the Lannisters and isolate them to the Crownlands.]]
* They've got Tommen "Baratheon" on the throne and all, which is great for them, but who's got control of Casterly Rock right now?
** Tywin's dead.
** Tyrion (the legal heir, no matter how much Tywin hated it) is expatriated to Essos and basically in a steward role for Meereen in Daenerys' absence.
** Jaime's in King's Landing - and as Kingsguard, gave up his claim to Casterly Rock anyway.
** Kevan (Tywin's brother, next in line after Jaime and Tyrion) is serving as Hand of the King, also in KL. [[spoiler: And if the books are anything to go by, probably won't live to see Casterly Rock again.]]
** Lancel - who would be at least interim Lord of Casterly Rock as Kevan's son while Kevan served as hand, is also busy in KL raising seven hells as part of the Faith Militant. (And implicitly gives no fucks about the fact that he could actually have a legal right to rule Casterly Rock right now.)
** Hell, even Alton, Stafford, Martyn and Willem Lannister are all dead.
* Most likely candidates:
** The Iron Islands. Whoever ends up as the King of the Iron Islands could very well elect to make it their first target. In fact, if you pull up a map of Westeros, Casterly Rock is actually one of the closest things ''to'' the Iron Islands. And clearly with some recent developments, it's obvious that their part in the greater story isn't done yet. [[spoiler: Also Euron Greyjoy, if he wins the Kingsmoot or even if he plays second fiddle to someone else, seems just the type to be crazy enough to pull this sort of stunt.]]
** Dorne. Remember, Dorne's never really liked the Tyrells ''or'' the Lannisters [[labelnote:In the books...]]The Martell family had a grudge against the Tyrells because Oberyn Martell crippled Willas Tyrell's leg in a tourney some years back. In the series, it could probably just be explained away as the fact that the Tyrells took up with the Lannisters just to get Margeary on the throne.[[/labelnote]], and could well declare war on the somewhat weakened alliance and make a push for Casterly Rock. There are still obviously things to be done at first.
** The Tyrells could always stab the Lannisters in the back. The Reach geographically sits between the Crownlands and the Westerlands anyway, and they've got the pull to ''really'' put what's left of the Lannisters in a tough spot.
*** With [[spoiler: the very much unconverted Margaery's insistence that Olenna return to High Garden, this may very well be what she is planning]]
* Whoever does take it over will also discover [[spoiler:that the region's gold mines are empty and thus the Lannisters aren't nearly as wealthy as they were in the past.]]
[[WMG: The Children of the Forest underestimated the White Walkers' powers when they created them.]]
It's possible the Children believed that possessing [[KryptoniteFactor dragonglass weapons]] would be enough to keep the White Walkers on a leash. And maybe it worked for a while. Then the White Walkers figured out how to make wights...
[[WMG: Dragonglass has mystical properties that absorb heat]]
The Children created the first White Walker by pushing a dragonglass dagger into a man's chest, which is why White Walkers look like frozen dessicated corpses. The reason dragonglass weapons can kill them instantly is because they rob the White Walkers of what little body heat they still have, completely turning them into ice. Valyrian steel may have similar properties, which may also explain why it's so difficult to work it.
[[WMG: The White Walkers also absorb heat and need it to survive]]
This is the reason why flames go out when they approach and why normal weapons freeze and shatter on contact. The reason their home territory North Beyond the wall is perpetually frozen over is because the White Walkers keep draining the environment and atmosphere of its heat. They also have the power to create more of their kind by draining heat from newborns similar to how the Children first created them by draining heat from humans with dragonglass. This might even explain why they are invading with the advent of the Long Winter. During the other Long Seasons there's still enough ambient heat in the world to keep them alive without major effort on their part. But it's so cold during Winter that the White Walkers have no choice but to go on the hunt for as much heat and/or life just to survive.
[[WMG: The Night's King uses newborns to make White Walkers for a reason]]
The reason he creates new White Walkers from newborns isn't because he can't do the same to adults. He ''can'', but it's too risky. He knows firsthand how badly [[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters turning someone who hates you into a powerful living weapon]] can end. By using newborns instead, he can raise his soldiers to be loyal to him and to him alone.
[[WMG: Just like Joffrey was an {{Expy}} to Aerys II, Tommen will become one to Baelor "the Blessed" Targaryen.]]
[[spoiler: As episode 6-6 shows, he's already been swayed by the High Sparrow toward religious fanaticism.]] This will result in, among other things, the formerly, erm... [[HormoneAddledTeenager excitable]] Tommen becoming suddenly very chaste toward Margeary. He may not go quite to the extreme of his predecessor as far as [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny locking Margeary in a dungeon to avoid being tempted]], but this new attitude might prove slightly problematic as far as producing an heir goes. And if[=/=]when he dies, that'll set the stage for all seven hells to break loose in Westeros. From a legal standpoint, he's the last Baratheon left.
[[WMG: Dany fed her new white horse to Drogon.]]
She rides off to make peace with Drogon (off-screen), but her horse never comes back. She also would have no use for a horse if she can ride a ''dragon''. It also would serve as symbolism, rejecting the cultures of Essos by bonding with her house's "sigil".
[[WMG: The Waif wasn't lying about being highborn.]]
She may have belonged to one of House Stark's rival houses (possibly the Freys, who have so many members that a missing granddaughter would hardly be noticed) and fled or got smuggled out sometime around the Red Wedding, which would explain her weirdly personal dislike of Arya.
[[WMG: The Arya that the Waif stabbed in "The Broken Man" wasn't really her.]]
This is not my own theory, but something I saw on message board, and saw worthwhile to put on record. The Arya we see in this episode acts uncharacteristically bold for the same character who in the last episode camped in some underground tunnel, her back against the wall, sword at hand. She throws money around like it was no big deal, even though Arya has never been interested in excessive luxury. And most notably of all, she doesn't have the Needle on her, even though she should be ready for a fight at any time. So, put together from all this, she is actually another Faceless Man wearing glamour, her job to prove that the Waif is breaking the code of their order, just like Arya, by getting personally invested in a murder.
* Jossed. Arya is really Arya and the Waif really chased her.
[[WMG: The Mountain will kill Tommen in a Trial by Combat.]]
Why else would they be setting up Tommen as a fanatic of the Faith, unless it was to later have him represent them when Cersei gets her trial by combat?
Tommen declares himself the Champion of the Faith, sure that the Gods are on his side, Cersei watches in horror as her foolproof plan of 'sic the Mountain on whoever the Faith chooses and insta win' falls apart spectacularly, Gregor cuts him down and Cersei's prophecy is one step closer to fulfilled.
[[WMG: Tommen will be convinced to do the above by Margaery.]]
The most recent episode or two has shown that there's a plan of some sort afoot. Also, Margaery's tactics have changed; whereas in the beginning of their engagement and subsequent marriage, she basically controlled Tommen with her sex appeal, it's now been noted that she hasn't been to bed with him since the Faith released her. This may indicate that the plan involves Tommen being sexually frustrated (so Margaery can get him to do something stupid). Or it could mean that Margaery wants to avoid any chance of getting pregnant by Tommen - perhaps because Tommen's death effectively finishes the Royal Family if he has no heir.
[[WMG: Alternatively, the Mountain will kill ''himself'' in the above fight on Cersei's orders and Cersei will essentially sacrifice herself to save Tommen.]]
Unfortunately, this will push Tommen over the edge and the final parts of the series will portray his descent into Madness, setting ''him'' up as the Aerys {{Expy}} and not Joffrey. [[labelnote:In the books...]]Remember, Aerys started as a sane, decent king, but a rebellion and a long-term imprisonment caused him to emerge with paranoia and significant psychological damage.[[/labelnote]]
[[WMG: Bran is the cause of the Mad King's insanity.]]
That flash of the Mad King crying "Burn them all!" in Bran's flashback reel was there for a reason. During one of his episodes, something goes horribly wrong and Bran and King Aerys encounter the White Walkers and the wights. Something in the vision will involve the words "Burn them all!", likely in reference to setting wights on fire. Bran and Aerys escape the vision eventually, but Aerys [[GoMadFromTheRevelation is driven mad by the experience]] and can no longer distinguish between the vision and reality, leading him to his infamous mania for burning everyone, thinking they are wights.
* So, you're saying that Bran also made Aerys insane when he had Ned's brother Brandon tied on a noose while he slowly roasted Lord Rickard Stark? Or when he abused and raped his wife according to the History and Lore on the Kingsguard?
[[WMG: Rickon will die, and it will indirectly cause the White Walker invasion]]
Why? Because Bran.
Most fans seem to believe Rickon will die during the Battle of the Bastards, and that the Starks will reclaim Winterfell. But if so, what then? As far as anyone knows, the Starks are left with no trueborn male heirs. Their options are Sansa, Ned Stark's last known legitimate child, but a woman and one who married into both the family they just took Winterfell back from and the much despised Lannisters, and Jon, a bastard whose greatest support comes from Wildlings, who much of the North (if not all Seven Kingdoms) despise. The chances of either of them being able to unite the North behind their authority seem low.
There's also the question of Jon's legitimacy: they might find a will from Robb Stark that legitimises him, but any will found three years after its author's death is going to be suspect and prone to accusations of forgery. Besides: the North is tired, exhausted itself in one great war that accomplished nothing but getting them taken over by {{CompleteMonster}}s. There's no way to claim Jon's legitimisation is, um, legitimate without claiming Robb Stark was in fact the rightful king, and hence restarting the campaign against the Iron Throne.
Half of the North will be all for this, and believing they'll need a strong Warrior King, uncompromised by his political alliances, will throw their support behind Jon. The other half, desperately wanting to avoid war, will throw their support behind Sansa. Sansa and Jon will be horrified by this and maintain they can rule together, but factions will develop nonetheless, almost pushing the North into civil war, with a few Bolton remnants screwing things up even more.
In the middle of this, Bran will get a vision showing him Rickon's death, and the state of the North afterwards. He'll be guilt-stricken, since it was he who willingly left Rickon and who told Rickon the Umbers would protect him, when they sold him over to Ramsay. Bran will see that the North has turned into a powderkeg, and decide the only way to avoid it boiling over into another war that could get one or both of his remaining siblings killed, is for [[RightfulKingReturns the rightful Lord to return]].
However, he's still marked by the Night King, and going back past the wall runs the risk of the White Walkers coming with him. It'll be one of those love-or-honour [[SadisticChoice choices]] that the Gods love throwing at the Starks. Either Bran won't be sure whether his mark applies just to the cave or all magic protecting men from the White Walkers, and decide to risk it, or he'll rationalise that they're coming anyway no matter what he does. Either way, a trueborn son of Ned Stark will return to Winterfell – [[FromBadToWorse with a massive army of ice zombies on his tail.]]
[[WMG: The High Sparrow's plan involves telling Tommen of his true heritage]]
Given everything he knows about Cersei, chances are the High Sparrow believes the rumours about her and Jaime, and will use them. He'll wait until he's more confident he has Tommen completely under his thumb, and then 'prove' (possibly with faked evidence, since I can't see what real evidence there would be pre-DNA) that he is in fact Jaime and Cersei's child. This will motivate Tommen to either abdicate (as his claim to the throne is illegitimate) or, more grimly and in line with Cersei's prophecy, [[DrivenToSuicide commit suicide]] (as in the eyes of the Faith he is an abomination). Either way, this will trigger a SuccessionCrisis, as with the deaths of Stannis, Shireen and Renly, there are no legal Baratheon heirs left until you start digging through distant cousins. The High Sparrow will step into this power vacuum, claiming the nobles have proven themselves unable and unworthy to rule. He might even have Tommen declare him heir. The commonfolk will rally to him and the nobility will be horrified, but they won't have any one candidate they can all rally around in response.
* What will screw up his plan? Daenerys. She will show up with her dragons and the nobility, assuming they can transfer their positions of power into a Targaryen restoration much the same way they did between the reigns of Aerys and Robert, will support her over a man whose life's ambition seems to be tearing them down. This will leave Dany in a bind, after having constructed her identity as a ruler as a liberator of the oppressed and being told most of her life the common people would support the Targaryen restoration, she will enter King's Landing with the common folk on someone else's side, and the treacherous nobles who betrayed her father her greatest source of support.
[[WMG: Dany and Yara will hook up.]]
Yara's AdaptationalSexuality came a bit out of nowhere, but it could be leading up to something. Dany is herself AmbiguouslyBi, although it's seriously downplayed compared to the books. And if Daario turns out to be the Harpy/gets killed/turns out to be the Harpy and gets killed, Dany could use Yara as a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute, at least for a time. Since Euron claimed he was going to seduce Dany [[BiggerIsBetterInBed with his big cock]], it would be ironic if she was seduced by one of the Greyjoys with no cock, and the chances of poor Theon pulling that off are... limited. (Although Dany and Theon might form a complementarily intense [[ImpliedLoveInterest emotional]] [[PlatonicLifePartners relationship]], so really she'll be seduced by both of them.)
[[WMG: The castle that Jaime promises to Edmure is [[spoiler: the Twins]].]]
Jaime has been ordered to capture Riverrun for the Freys, [[spoiler: [[LoopholeAbuse but nobody said he's supposed to let them keep their own]]]].
[[WMG: Edmure will take on Wyman Manderly's role]]
Despite being much younger and lighter of build, they have certain similarities: namely, seeming useless and and [[spoiler: having seemingly sold out to the Freys]]. The trailer shows us the Freys all celebrating something, [[spoiler: presumably retaking Riverrun]], and they're likely to Edmure and possibly his men there, [[spoiler:so Walder and his habit of EvilGloating can throw his betrayal in their face]]. However, that's as good a place for [[spoiler:Delicious Frey Pie]] to take place as any. If he manages to kill enough Freys that also puts Edmure and Rolsin's baby in a better position for the Frey SuccessionCrisis that will inevitably follow Walder's death. This could double as the Blackfish being [[HesJustHiding Just Hiding]], taking Davos's role.
[[WMG: Cersei will confess in full to spite the Sparrows]]
In direct opposition to an above WMG, the Sparrow's power grab at this point depends almost entirely on the support of the crown, and in turn, Tommon's legitimacy. A couple of seasons ago, Cersei threatened Tywin that she would reveal the truth to everyone when she felt that he was going to take control and influence over her son away from her. When it becomes absolutely clear that the Sparrow has done just that, and that Cersei has no more pull over her son at all, she will make good on that threat and reveal to the gods and the world that Tommen is a bastard born of incest, and that he has no legitimate claim on the throne, because she would rather see herself and Tommon dead than have no power over him. It fits the theme of Cersei's story that she ultimately be responsible for her own undoing and the death of the one person she cares about more than anything. Also fits, in a very metaphorical sense, with the prophecy; if Tommon dies before her, she survives all of her children, and her own death is caused by her relationship with Jaime, giving a pay off to her death being caused by her younger brother.
[[WMG: If Cersei confesses in full, that's "ok", because the Sparrows know everything]]
(variant of the "The High Sparrow's plan involves telling Tommen of his true heritage" WMG and the "Cersei will confess in full to spite the Sparrows" WMG)
* The High Sparrow is trying to get Cersei to confess everything ''herself'' during her trial, very much like when he put her on the spot with Lancel, so the Faith can remove Tommen (and Margaery, that's why he was all creep on the "go get a baby" conversation, to mark her as completely spoiled), and one of these options:
** Put ''Gendry'' in the throne. And yes, sorry, I'm implying Gendry is not rowing anymore. But I think that his "king's blood" will come into play again, even if it's highly unlikely.
** Claim Daenerys as queen thanks to Varys, who has left Mereen to get support for their cause to move on to Westeros (and there's no way he doesn't know about the High Sparrow and ''absolutely everything else'' about the throne's precarious situation; easy to connect one with the other).
** Make the Seven Kingdoms a theocracy, because that's the endgame he has been playing for all along.
** Why would they do any of this? Tommen is already a perfect puppet ruler for the High Sparrow's purposes. Replacing him with some unknown party or trying to wipe out monarchy altogether would be incredibly counterproductive to the Sparrows' plans. It's in their best interests to avoid any questions of Tommen's legitimacy, since it's his authority that they use to handle all their affairs. If Tommen hadn't saved them earlier in Season 6, then they would have been wiped out by the Tyrell forces.
[[WMG: The White Walkers are invading because [[spoiler:they are sick and tired of all the backstabbing and betrayals and suffering in Westerosi politics]].]]
[[spoiler:The Night King is one of the most benevolent rulers in the entire world. Every single one of his men follows him loyally without question, and neither he nor his men have ever once tried to harm someone who wasn't trying to harm them first. One of his White Walkers lets Sam live because he knows that Sam is an innocent who has never tried to hurt anyone in his life. The Night King and the White Walkers are only trying to do what's best for Westeros, and are trying to establish a kingdom where everyone is happy and there is no betrayal. The only reason he brings the dead back to life is because he knows that the only way he can take Westeros is with an army. But once he is actually in power, he will guide Westeros into a new age of prosperity by turning all of the backstabbing politicians into loyal ice zombies who will all work together for the good of the nobles and smallfolk alike. Then he'll bring all the characters we love back to life and everyone lives happily ever after.]]
[[WMG: The rumor Qyburn confirmed to Cersei in ''No One'' is about the coup in Dorne.]]
Cersei has a great deal of reason to care about the affairs in Dorne, and the Dorne subplot hasn't been touched since the season premiere. It may or may not factor into her plans to come, but if anyone still cares about what's going on in that part of the Seven Kingdoms, it's the mother of the late Princess Myrcella.
* Actually in "Oathbreaker", Jaime and Cersei already know about the coup in Dorne when they interrupted Kevan's small council meeting. But it's possible that the rumor Qyburn's talking about is that there's a civil war between those who are loyal to Doran and those who are loyal to the Sand Snakes.
[[WMG: The rumor Qyburn investigated is in fact the location of the Mad King's stores of wildfire.]]
Judging from Bran's visions as well as the Mad King having hidden vast amounts of wildfire all over King's Landing to destroy it, it's very possible that Qyburn found at least one of these secret wildfire storehouses and Cersei intends to use it as her trump card against the High Sparrow.
* Worth noting that in the same episode, Jaime mentions to Edmure that Cersei would burn down a city to protect her chidlren. Sounds like foreshadowing to me.
* Didn't Cersei already knew about the wildfire cache back in Season 2? Tyrion knew about it from Lancel who is sleeping with Cersei back then and he hijacked that plan so he can use it against Stannis. Unless, Qyburn found out that there's some extra wildfire...
** No. Cersei did not know about the Mad King's stashes. She knew that wilfire exists and that the Guild of Pyromancers was ready and willing to manufacture it for her. All the wildfire shown and used in Season 2 was commissioned by Cersei and manufactured recently. The Mad King's stashes are a completely different matter.
* Further foreshadowed in "Battle of the Bastards", where Tyrion recounts how Jaime had told him how the Mad King had secretly hidden huge stocks of Wildfire under every major road and landmark in King's Landing, including the Red Keep and the Great Sept of Baelor.
[[WMG: The Northern houses are reluctant to support Sansa because of [[spoiler: the Littlefinger debt scheme]]]]
The theory goes that [[spoiler: Littlefinger has put the realm in debt so he can extend credit to various houses scattered across Westeros]]. He's been calling in every favour gained this way to get the lords to drop their support for Sansa. Why? Because [[spoiler: Baelish wants to be her knight in shining armour riding to her rescue]] in the Battle of the Bastards, and this is how [[spoiler:he denies her the ability to call him out for all his bullshit and show her she needs him still]]. From day one, [[spoiler:Baelish has made it his top priority to be indispensible and always needed by his allies, even with his scheming reputation]]. [[MagnificentBastard And he's done it again]].
[[WMG: Arya has become the God of Death]]
At least this would be a more interesting theory than her simply surviving her wounds because of Plot Armor while other characters have died from much less.
[[WMG: Ser Jorah will return with a volcano arm]]
He'll find a Red Priest - possibly in Asshai by the Shadow, where Melisandre originates - and ask them to fix his greyscale. This will involve plunging his infected arm into a fire; it will emerge with charred and cracked skin, but clean of infection and possessed of superhuman strength.
[[WMG: The Slaver's Bay/Daenery's Arc is a parable for the War on Terror]]
Both conflicts see an outside force invade/liberate a far off land for the purpose of ending a horrible institution, such as terrorism or in the case of Essos, slavery. Both see initial success, but later descend into chaos and resentment starts to form against the foreign occupying force and even worse groups replace the ones that were overthrown, in our case it is ISIS, in the case of Game of Thrones, it is the Sons of the Harpy.
[[WMG: Daenerys will unite the Seven Kingdoms, but will ''not'' sit the Iron Throne at the end.]]
She believes her purpose is to rule as queen; in reality, though, it is more likely that she is simply meant to serve as a uniting force for a lot of different armies and cultures from both Essos and Westeros for the battle against the White Walkers. In the end, she'll die during that battle, probably scrificially, leaving Westeros with no one clear ruler, but a chance to move forward after the events of the last several years. (There's also a chance the Seven Kingdoms become seven actual Kingdoms again as it was before Aegon's Landing, with all Targaryens gone [[spoiler:depending on what theories you subscribe to, this could mean the end for Jon Snow as well.]]
[[WMG: Tormund will become Lord of Last Hearth, and head of the newly-created House Giantsbane]]
With the Umbers’ betrayal of House Stark, it’s unlikely that Sansa or Jon would be willing to overlook their transgression, especially after Rickon’s demise. The Wildlings are going to need a new home to settle in after everything is said and done, and considering how close Last Hearth is to the Gift and the Wall, they could very well settle in the Umber lands after House Umber is stripped of their titles for treason, and Tormund could be made the new Lord of Last Hearth.
* Although, given that such a position would put the Wildlings immediately after the Watch as the most in danger should the White Walkers actually breach the wall, it would kind of come off as the North using the Wildlings for cannon fodder. (Which is precisely why a guy like, say, Littlefinger, would suggest it.) Better options include Deepwood Motte, where the Starks could strip the Glovers for their failure to aid them against the Boltons... or the Dreadfort itself, which is conspicuously vacant of any Boltons.
* Stripping the Glovers of their land and titles seems a bit extreme, considering that they had legitimate reasons not to get involved and they were far from the only House to stay out of the conflict. However, the Karstarks are also good candidates for punishment alongside the Umbers and Boltons.
** A clearheaded ruler would probably either pardon the Glovers or make their punishment less severe, sure. But combine everything Jon and Sansa have gone through as of late with the potential influence of Littlefinger (who House Stark is now indebted to, no matter how much they may distrust him, and whom they ''certainly'' can't afford to have as an enemy) and the fact that this is [[GrayAndGreyMorality Westeros]], and there's no guarantee that the clear heads prevail.
** Giving the Wildlings ''Umber'' land seems like a bad idea, politically, because the people of The Last Hearth have been warring against Wildlings for generations. They lost more men to the Wildlings than any other Northern house. Putting a wildling in charge just feels like spiting them. Giving Tormund ''the Dreadfort'', however, there's an idea.
*** Since Wildings generally dislike the ways of ''southerners'' and ''kneelers'', it seems odd that Tormund would want to be a Lord. Tormund and the Wildings like Jon, though, and as all Stark soldiers were slaughtered in the Red Wedding, so they may simply settle around Winterfell.
[[WMG: The fates of the Northern houses in the wake of the Battle of the Bastards]]
* House Hornwood, bordering House Bolton, get roughly half Bolton lands for their loyal service.
* House Mazin, being [[CanonForeigner unique to the show]] and lacking an established location get the other half.
* House Mormont, being situated on an Island on the other side of the North, can't be granted any lands, though Glovers lands are closest to them. The Glovers might be demoted to their vassals.
* House Bolton's seat of the Dreadfort is torn down, in accordanse with Sansa's desire to wipe away all signs of them.
* Lord Karstark executed, his officers made to take the black.
* Umber officers made to take the black.
* Both Umbers and Karstarks allowed to retain their lands and titles, on condition that they renew fealty to Winterfell and send one of their own to stay at Winterfell.
[[WMG: Jon will found a noble house]]
He will be granted lands and take in the Wildings as his vassals. In a MythologyGag, he will adopt the Umbers' book sigil, a roaring giant, for his own, in memory of Wun Wun.
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