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[[WMG: Earth-that-was is still inhabited.]]
After the events of ''Film/Serenity'', the crew has to hide in the one place no one would dare to look for them, Earth-That-Was. There, they find the remnants of human civilization.
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Book - This one is a bit harder to pin down. He would have had his true past revealed eventually and it would have caused all kinds of conflict (probably between Mal and him since he seemed to have a direct connection to The Alliance), but since the show never got off the ground, any potential background concepts for Book went out the airlock. I suspect that whatever his true origin was, he would have been revealed to be completely loyal to Mal and the crew of Serenity and all the turmoil in his past would have made his Faith even stronger as he grew into being a Shepard. As for his being a Shepard, it is my suspicion that he would be revealed to not be an actual "ordained" Shepard and was just assuming the role to get away from his past. But as with all these WMGs, we will never know now.
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Book - This one is a bit harder to pin down. He would have had his true past revealed eventually and it would have caused all kinds of conflict (probably between Mal and him since he seemed to have a direct connection to The Alliance), but since the show never got off the ground, any potential background concepts for Book went out the airlock. I suspect that whatever his true origin was, he would have been revealed to be completely loyal to Mal and the crew of Serenity and all the turmoil in his past would have made his Faith even stronger as he grew into being a Shepard. As for his being a Shepard, it is my suspicion that he would be revealed to not be an actual "ordained" Shepard and was just assuming the role to get away from his past. But as with all these WMGs, [=WMGs=], we will never know now.
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[[WMG: The experiments performed on River are continuations of the ones on {{The X-Files}}.]]
Seriously, the covertly kidnapping people to use in experiments, the mind reading (Gibson Praise anyone?), the sheer kick-assery. It's all there.
* It's also been there in many, many other science fiction 'Verses long before X-Files came along. [[OlderThanTheyThink Nothing new under the sun]].
* AND the X-files, Firefly, Dollhouse, and other sci-fi stories dealing with clandestine government human experimentation are roughly based on actual experiments and programs of the CIA in the 1960s. See also [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mkultra MKUltra]], Mockingbird, The Men Who Stared at Goats, and the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Jewels_%28Central_Intelligence_Agency%29 Family Jewels Reports]].
Seriously, the covertly kidnapping people to use in experiments, the mind reading (Gibson Praise anyone?), the sheer kick-assery. It's all there.
* It's also been there in many, many other science fiction 'Verses long before X-Files came along. [[OlderThanTheyThink Nothing new under the sun]].
* AND the X-files, Firefly, Dollhouse, and other sci-fi stories dealing with clandestine government human experimentation are roughly based on actual experiments and programs of the CIA in the 1960s. See also [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mkultra MKUltra]], Mockingbird, The Men Who Stared at Goats, and the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Jewels_%28Central_Intelligence_Agency%29 Family Jewels Reports]].
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[[WMG: The experiments performed on River are continuations of the ones on {{The X-Files}}.''Series/TheXFiles''.]]
Seriously, the covertly kidnapping people to use in experiments, the mind reading (GibsonPraise anyone?), Praise), the sheer kick-assery. It's all there.
* It's also been there in many, many other science fiction 'Verses long beforeX-Files ''The X-Files'' came along. [[OlderThanTheyThink Nothing new under the sun]].
* ANDthe X-files, Firefly, Dollhouse, ''The X-files'', ''Firefly'', ''Dollhouse'', and other sci-fi stories dealing with clandestine government human experimentation are roughly based on actual experiments and programs of the CIA in the 1960s. See also [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mkultra MKUltra]], Mockingbird, The Men Who Stared at Goats, and the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Jewels_%28Central_Intelligence_Agency%29 Family Jewels Reports]].
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*** Excuse me, I need to go write a fanfic about our Favorite {{BigDamnHeroes}} listening to 20th-century music. [[note]] For example, AC/DC: ''Jayne:'' "This is good! Where is Texas, anyway?" ''Simon:'' "In the Uniteed States of America, one of the two precursors of the Alliance, before the exodus from Earth." ''Jayne:'' "Huh? It sounds [[SpaceWestern more familiar]] than that..." ''Simon:'' "This is Earth-that-was popular music..." ''Jayne:'' "...this is old?" [[/note]]
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** Also, when Joss {{Jossed}} that, he said it was originally an immunization kit, part of the extra medical supplies that Inara gives to Simon. That bit of footage was cut from that scene,,and they stuck it into the Reaver flyby because it [[ThrowItIn just kinda fit well.]]
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*** Excuse me, I need to go write a fanfic about our Favorite {{BigDamnHeroes}} listening to 20th-century music. [[note]] For example, AC/DC: Jayne: ''Jayne:'' "This is good! Where is Texas, anyway?" Simon: ''Simon:'' "In the Uniteed States of America, one of the two precursors of the Alliance, before the exodus from Earth." Jayne: ''Jayne:'' "Huh? It sounds [[SpaceWestern more familiar]] than that..." Simon: ''Simon:'' "This is Earth-that-was popular music..." Jayne: ''Jayne:'' "...this is old?" [[/note]]
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** Psychotic sense of humor? Check. Even diagnosed by a professional. And his pilot. And self-admitted.
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[[WMG: Mal was a virgin before Heart of Gold]]
Consider how uncomfortable and awkward he is whenever the topic of sex comes up. When he's asked how long it's been since he last had sex, he says "Longer than I'd like to admit". The reason he always makes fun of Inara's job is because it makes him uncomfortable. He could never get any. And it brings a whole new meaning to the "You can't miss somewhere you've never been" line in Trash. He was probably referring to Saffron/Iforgetallherothernames, but maybe it was sex in general too.
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[[WMG: Had the show continued...]]
Joss would have broken the show and characters in so many ways that by the end it would have been just as convoluted and ridiculous as his other shows have been. I am not saying that is bad, I am just saying that it would have inevitably happened and a lot of fan love for the one season (half really) show is that they had such great characters and relationships. I think it is almost a good thing the show only lasted as long as it did. But here are some relationship issues as I see them had the show continued (an assumption of 5 to 7 seasons):
Zoe and Wash - This would not have ended pretty. In the first or second season the seeds of doubt as to their marriage would have been planted (possibly already done in War Stories) and they would have separated if not completely divorced (however that would have been handled according to space rules... "Some people juggle geese."). They would have gotten back together of course, but depending on how long it took to break them up and get them together the first time, coupled with how long the series went on, they probably would have been broken up again, and the second break up is always the final in a Joss show. More than likely, a second break up would have meant one of them was written off permanently (as Wash was in Serenity (Movie)). I doubt there would have been any inter crew couplings for Wash or Zoe, but if there were it would have probably been Wash and Kaylee and/or Zoe and Jayne. I can;t see Zoe actually hooking up with Mal (too much history between them for anything more than what they have). As for Wash and Inara, maybe, but doubtful since she probably would have been pining after Mal (or not on the ship) when Wash was not with Zoe.
Jayne - Would have become a Reaver. His overriding fear of Reavers in general and the fact that he was a great character means at some point he would have become "infected" (or some such) and either turned into a Reaver or gone insane like the man in Bushwacked. He may or may not have become cured but most of his development at some point would have been either crazy in some kind of institute environment, or on the ship being cared for (probably by River who more than likely would have been much more lucid by the time this development happened to Jayne).
Book - This one is a bit harder to pin down. He would have had his true past revealed eventually and it would have caused all kinds of conflict (probably between Mal and him since he seemed to have a direct connection to The Alliance), but since the show never got off the ground, any potential background concepts for Book went out the airlock. I suspect that whatever his true origin was, he would have been revealed to be completely loyal to Mal and the crew of Serenity and all the turmoil in his past would have made his Faith even stronger as he grew into being a Shepard. As for his being a Shepard, it is my suspicion that he would be revealed to not be an actual "ordained" Shepard and was just assuming the role to get away from his past. But as with all these WMGs, we will never know now.
Mal and Inara - Obviously this was a classic "will they, won't they" with the two of them. And as is usual for those kinds of stories, they would have gotten together at some point. It would never have lasted however. I suspect it would not even have lasted a full season, much like the Angel and Cordie pairing, or Angel and Buffy. It was doomed from the start for all kinds of reasons. Inara being a supporter of The Alliance, her being a Companion (and not quitting that once she hooked up with Mal), Mal being uptight, his tendency to call her a whore, all kinds of as yet undiscovered reasoning's between them. It would have been a long lead up (around 2 or 3 seasons) to a quick break up and then that would have been the end of it. They would have remained friends of course, and they might have even toyed with the concept of them together again, but it never would have happened.
Kaylee and Simon - This would have happened quickly. Probably in the first season. And then it would have broken apart just as quickly either in the same season or within the second. They might have continued to get together now and then for a little "reunion fun", but it would never be anything lasting because Kaylee is a slut. I do not mean that in a derogatory way. Kaylee just enjoys sex and men and she would have basically worked her way through the ship (as well as off the ship). It was intrinsic to her character to enjoy "the sex" and she would not have been the same without being that way, so she would not be able to be with Simon in a meaningful way. As to Simon, he would not have been able to change enough for her and was too invested in his sister's situation to be able to focus real attention to Kaylee. For his part, he would have become a real member of the crew and become integral to their existence. And I think he and Kaylee would have become good close friends, just not in a relationship way.
River - Possibly would have ended up with Jayne (after he was a Reaver and/or insane whether he was cured or not... who knows), but her relationships would not have been the focus on her character. Her development into a weapon would have been the focus and she would have become insanely over powered (the movie only barely scratches the surface of how OP she would have become had the series continued) and eventually just been another of Joss' super girls. This might not have been a bad thing, but it would have been a character stereotype for Joss and his shows manifesting itself in another show.
Serenity - That's right, the ship. She would have become a character in and of herself (already kind of was) and would have become so integral to the show that it would become impossible to end the show without Joss "killing her off". Probably something similar to what happened at the end of the movie, only this would have been more permanent and resulted in a final scene of sadness from the entire crew (but especially Mal). It would have been followed by some form of retrospective and of course comedy to lighten the mood, right before a reveal that someone knew of another Firefly class ship they could get a hold of... probably for all the money the entire crew had combined. Of course they would have pitched in and the show would end with them back on the side of poor and needing "the next job to get by".
The rest of the 'verse - Pretty much would have gone the same way as the movie. Reavers would have been explained. The Blue Sun would have gone down. The Alliance would still be running things (can't stop the machine). And Serenity would have powered through until she got blown up or crashed beyond repair. The crew would have had their ups and downs and at least one of them would have died before the end (probably still Wash). In typical Joss fashion it would have had a bitter sweet ending and many would not have been satisfied by it, but then when is anyone ever satisfied when one of Joss' shows ends?
Joss would have broken the show and characters in so many ways that by the end it would have been just as convoluted and ridiculous as his other shows have been. I am not saying that is bad, I am just saying that it would have inevitably happened and a lot of fan love for the one season (half really) show is that they had such great characters and relationships. I think it is almost a good thing the show only lasted as long as it did. But here are some relationship issues as I see them had the show continued (an assumption of 5 to 7 seasons):
Zoe and Wash - This would not have ended pretty. In the first or second season the seeds of doubt as to their marriage would have been planted (possibly already done in War Stories) and they would have separated if not completely divorced (however that would have been handled according to space rules... "Some people juggle geese."). They would have gotten back together of course, but depending on how long it took to break them up and get them together the first time, coupled with how long the series went on, they probably would have been broken up again, and the second break up is always the final in a Joss show. More than likely, a second break up would have meant one of them was written off permanently (as Wash was in Serenity (Movie)). I doubt there would have been any inter crew couplings for Wash or Zoe, but if there were it would have probably been Wash and Kaylee and/or Zoe and Jayne. I can;t see Zoe actually hooking up with Mal (too much history between them for anything more than what they have). As for Wash and Inara, maybe, but doubtful since she probably would have been pining after Mal (or not on the ship) when Wash was not with Zoe.
Jayne - Would have become a Reaver. His overriding fear of Reavers in general and the fact that he was a great character means at some point he would have become "infected" (or some such) and either turned into a Reaver or gone insane like the man in Bushwacked. He may or may not have become cured but most of his development at some point would have been either crazy in some kind of institute environment, or on the ship being cared for (probably by River who more than likely would have been much more lucid by the time this development happened to Jayne).
Book - This one is a bit harder to pin down. He would have had his true past revealed eventually and it would have caused all kinds of conflict (probably between Mal and him since he seemed to have a direct connection to The Alliance), but since the show never got off the ground, any potential background concepts for Book went out the airlock. I suspect that whatever his true origin was, he would have been revealed to be completely loyal to Mal and the crew of Serenity and all the turmoil in his past would have made his Faith even stronger as he grew into being a Shepard. As for his being a Shepard, it is my suspicion that he would be revealed to not be an actual "ordained" Shepard and was just assuming the role to get away from his past. But as with all these WMGs, we will never know now.
Mal and Inara - Obviously this was a classic "will they, won't they" with the two of them. And as is usual for those kinds of stories, they would have gotten together at some point. It would never have lasted however. I suspect it would not even have lasted a full season, much like the Angel and Cordie pairing, or Angel and Buffy. It was doomed from the start for all kinds of reasons. Inara being a supporter of The Alliance, her being a Companion (and not quitting that once she hooked up with Mal), Mal being uptight, his tendency to call her a whore, all kinds of as yet undiscovered reasoning's between them. It would have been a long lead up (around 2 or 3 seasons) to a quick break up and then that would have been the end of it. They would have remained friends of course, and they might have even toyed with the concept of them together again, but it never would have happened.
Kaylee and Simon - This would have happened quickly. Probably in the first season. And then it would have broken apart just as quickly either in the same season or within the second. They might have continued to get together now and then for a little "reunion fun", but it would never be anything lasting because Kaylee is a slut. I do not mean that in a derogatory way. Kaylee just enjoys sex and men and she would have basically worked her way through the ship (as well as off the ship). It was intrinsic to her character to enjoy "the sex" and she would not have been the same without being that way, so she would not be able to be with Simon in a meaningful way. As to Simon, he would not have been able to change enough for her and was too invested in his sister's situation to be able to focus real attention to Kaylee. For his part, he would have become a real member of the crew and become integral to their existence. And I think he and Kaylee would have become good close friends, just not in a relationship way.
River - Possibly would have ended up with Jayne (after he was a Reaver and/or insane whether he was cured or not... who knows), but her relationships would not have been the focus on her character. Her development into a weapon would have been the focus and she would have become insanely over powered (the movie only barely scratches the surface of how OP she would have become had the series continued) and eventually just been another of Joss' super girls. This might not have been a bad thing, but it would have been a character stereotype for Joss and his shows manifesting itself in another show.
Serenity - That's right, the ship. She would have become a character in and of herself (already kind of was) and would have become so integral to the show that it would become impossible to end the show without Joss "killing her off". Probably something similar to what happened at the end of the movie, only this would have been more permanent and resulted in a final scene of sadness from the entire crew (but especially Mal). It would have been followed by some form of retrospective and of course comedy to lighten the mood, right before a reveal that someone knew of another Firefly class ship they could get a hold of... probably for all the money the entire crew had combined. Of course they would have pitched in and the show would end with them back on the side of poor and needing "the next job to get by".
The rest of the 'verse - Pretty much would have gone the same way as the movie. Reavers would have been explained. The Blue Sun would have gone down. The Alliance would still be running things (can't stop the machine). And Serenity would have powered through until she got blown up or crashed beyond repair. The crew would have had their ups and downs and at least one of them would have died before the end (probably still Wash). In typical Joss fashion it would have had a bitter sweet ending and many would not have been satisfied by it, but then when is anyone ever satisfied when one of Joss' shows ends?
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Curly dark hair and eyes, very pretty, and often serves as the emotional backbone. Family resemblance anyone?
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[[WMG: River's fighting skills were unintentional on the Alliance's part, and are the result of one of two possible-though unintentional events]]
I thought of this while reading the headscratchers, but it makes a lot of sense. River was originally not planned to be a fighter, instead her skills were an unexpected side-effect of her gifts, that the Alliance merely decided to run with and take advantage of. Either because of...
A) The fact she was exposed to highly trained hired killers for a considerable amount of time in captivity. Her mind reading skills combined with her fast learning skills made her absorb their knowledge and become an instant expert (Similar to how she apparently knows how to pilot Serenity [[spoiler: after Wash dies]]). Or...
B) Her skills with math combine with her mind reading abilities to grant her skills similar to the {{Wolverine}} villain Mister X (who has the same abilities as River) or {{Spider-Man}} (who's spider-sense results with something similar). She knows what her opponents are doing, figures out the best way to counter, then does so, while her instincts make her strike at the absolute perfect time to deliver maximum injury, resulting in her ability to utterly destroy the people she fights.
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They reverse engineered her mental abilities, resulting in a device that attacks the brain and a virus that alters it to one of two extremes.
[[WMG: River's fighting skills were unintentional on the Alliance's part, and are the result of one of two possible-though unintentional events]]
I thought of this while reading the headscratchers, but it makes a lot of sense. River was originally not planned to be a fighter, instead her skills were an unexpected side-effect of her gifts, that the Alliance merely decided to run with and take advantage of. Either because of...
A) The fact she was exposed to highly trained hired killers for a considerable amount of time in captivity. Her mind reading skills combined with her fast learning skills made her absorb their knowledge and become an instant expert (Similar to how she apparently knows how to pilot Serenity [[spoiler: after Wash dies]]). Or...
B) Her skills with math combine with her mind reading abilities to grant her skills similar to the {{Wolverine}} villain Mister X (who has the same abilities as River) or {{Spider-Man}} (who's spider-sense results with something similar). She knows what her opponents are doing, figures out the best way to counter, then does so, while her instincts make her strike at the absolute perfect time to deliver maximum injury, resulting in her ability to utterly destroy the people she fights.
[[WMG: River's mental abilities are what lead to the creation of the Blue Hands' blood pens, and Pax/Reavers]]
They reverse engineered her mental abilities, resulting in a device that attacks the brain and a virus that alters it to one of two extremes.
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***Or different areas of specialty. The Operative was an assassin/infiltrator, while Book could've been a spy/torturorer/counterintelligence/whatever.
