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[[WMG: Cor is going to [[TheWoobie suffer in spades.]]]]
According to [[http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/06/final-fantasy-versus-xiiis-story-remains-intact-in-final-fantasy-xv/ this overview]], Cor's age of 42 is unlucky, according to Japanese superstitions. This information implies that Cor's going to get it bad compared to the other characters. Since this installment also promises to be DarkerAndEdgier, it's also possible that he'll go through a TraumaCongaLine of legendary proportions.
[[WMG: Cor is going to [[TheWoobie suffer in spades.]]]]
According to [[http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/06/final-fantasy-versus-xiiis-story-remains-intact-in-final-fantasy-xv/ this overview]], Cor's age of 42 is unlucky, according to Japanese superstitions. This information implies that Cor's going to get it bad compared to the other characters. Since this installment also promises to be DarkerAndEdgier, it's also possible that he'll go through a TraumaCongaLine of legendary proportions.
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[[WMG: The final boss will be Bahamut.]]
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Come on, we know how these things go. It'll happen; it can't not. It'll happen near the end of the game, and she might veen be a non-playable GuestStarPartyMember during an earlier boss battle or two as a tease.
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Come on, we know how these things go. It'll happen; it can't not. It'll happen near the end of the game, and she might veen even be a non-playable GuestStarPartyMember during an earlier boss battle or two as a tease.
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** I for one predict TaraStrong to have a role somewhere.
* Umbrella Guy - QuintonFlynn. Umbrella Guy's [[KeijiFujiwara seiyuu]] voiced [[KingdomHearts Axel]] and [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Reno]], and since Quinton voiced the same roles...
* Umbrella Guy - QuintonFlynn. Umbrella Guy's [[KeijiFujiwara seiyuu]] voiced [[KingdomHearts Axel]] and [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Reno]], and since Quinton voiced the same roles...
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** I for one predict TaraStrong Creator/TaraStrong to have a role somewhere.
* Umbrella Guy -QuintonFlynn.Creator/QuintonFlynn. Umbrella Guy's [[KeijiFujiwara seiyuu]] voiced [[KingdomHearts Axel]] and [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Reno]], and since Quinton voiced the same roles...
* Umbrella Guy -
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* Ignis- Either TroyBaker, TravisWillingham, or JMichaelTatum.
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* Ignis- Either TroyBaker, TravisWillingham, or JMichaelTatum.Creator/JMichaelTatum.
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Furthermore, she will ''not'' go OneWingedAngel. She'll get powerful, but she will remain her original form, looking exactly like herself, ''the entire time,'' just to make it extra-hard on the player. Why? Well, this is supposed to be the [[DarkerAndEdgier darkest]] FinalFantasy yet. [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII They've already shown they're willing to]] KillTheCutie, so what's one step beyond that? Making ''you'' kill her. Not to mention the scene in the trailer of Noctis and Stella drawing their weapons on each other... alternatively, it will subvert the entire concept of a FinalBoss by having an intentional loss letting yourself be beaten and then choosing to PressXToDie, or by having running away be an option the entire time that will actually work if you try enough, but Stella usually stops you. Actually beating her in this case would provide a NonstandardGameOver.
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Furthermore, she will ''not'' go OneWingedAngel. She'll get powerful, but she will remain her original form, looking exactly like herself, ''the entire time,'' just to make it extra-hard on the player. Why? Well, this is supposed to be the [[DarkerAndEdgier darkest]] FinalFantasy Franchise/FinalFantasy yet. [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII They've already shown they're willing to]] KillTheCutie, so what's one step beyond that? Making ''you'' kill her. Not to mention the scene in the trailer of Noctis and Stella drawing their weapons on each other... alternatively, it will subvert the entire concept of a FinalBoss by having an intentional loss letting yourself be beaten and then choosing to PressXToDie, or by having running away be an option the entire time that will actually work if you try enough, but Stella usually stops you. Actually beating her in this case would provide a NonstandardGameOver.
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** Actually, the entire Fabula Novus Crystallis trilogy is set in the same universe, and with all the magic FinalFantasy has, it would not be surprising if they could find someway to crossover. Their personalities certainly fits.
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** Actually, the entire Fabula Novus Crystallis trilogy is set in the same universe, and with all the magic FinalFantasy Franchise/FinalFantasy has, it would not be surprising if they could find someway to crossover. Their personalities certainly fits.
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* There have also been a few theories trying to link the Goddess Etro to [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX Necron]] (appearance, theme of death) and [[DissidiaFinalFantasy Cosmos]] (an AbortedArc from the trailer had the villains call Cosmos "The Goddess of Death", which is what the myths believe Etro to be).
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* There have also been a few theories trying to link the Goddess Etro to [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX Necron]] (appearance, theme of death) and [[DissidiaFinalFantasy [[VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy Cosmos]] (an AbortedArc from the trailer had the villains call Cosmos "The Goddess of Death", which is what the myths believe Etro to be).
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* Noctis will not be like Squall; that's just a front he puts up out of shyness, and he'll never have Squall's determination and focus. Stella might be similar to Rinoa, even meeting the hero while wearing a white dress, but she won't get the DistressBall like Rinoa did, and maybe she'd rather be JustFriends, and instead of disliking her magical abilities (which may or may not be a case of CursedWithAwesome), she'll be pretty satisfied with them. Instead of FFVIII's unabashedly happy ending, Versus will end with a massive DownerEnding. Noctis won't end up with Stella or any other LoveInterest, and, at least in this universe, [[YouCantFightFate you can't fight fate.]] While Rinoa was most certainly ''not'' Ultimecia, Stella ''will'' be the BigBad, though not necessarily by time travel. Maybe Noctis will have Squall's AlwaysSaveTheGirl mentality, but he won't always save her. Basically, ''Versus'' will be the inverse of ''FinalFantasyVIII,'' just to screw with the fans. The only theme they'll share is the youth of the main characters causing huge problems. Except in the case of Versus, said main characters ''won't'' be able to fix things.
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* Noctis will not be like Squall; that's just a front he puts up out of shyness, and he'll never have Squall's determination and focus. Stella might be similar to Rinoa, even meeting the hero while wearing a white dress, but she won't get the DistressBall like Rinoa did, and maybe she'd rather be JustFriends, and instead of disliking her magical abilities (which may or may not be a case of CursedWithAwesome), she'll be pretty satisfied with them. Instead of FFVIII's unabashedly happy ending, Versus will end with a massive DownerEnding. Noctis won't end up with Stella or any other LoveInterest, and, at least in this universe, [[YouCantFightFate you can't fight fate.]] While Rinoa was most certainly ''not'' Ultimecia, Stella ''will'' be the BigBad, though not necessarily by time travel. Maybe Noctis will have Squall's AlwaysSaveTheGirl mentality, but he won't always save her. Basically, ''Versus'' will be the inverse of ''FinalFantasyVIII,'' ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII,'' just to screw with the fans. The only theme they'll share is the youth of the main characters causing huge problems. Except in the case of Versus, said main characters ''won't'' be able to fix things.
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* '''A''': Become ''FinalFantasyXV'' like the above guess said.
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** Both are confirmed; Final Fantasy Versus XIII ''was'' changed to FinalFantasyXV, and "a world of the Versus epic" at the end of the E3 trailer heavily implies that there will be more to come of its saga.
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** Both are confirmed; Final Fantasy Versus XIII ''was'' changed to FinalFantasyXV, VideoGame/FinalFantasyXV, and "a world of the Versus epic" at the end of the E3 trailer heavily implies that there will be more to come of its saga.
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* Umbrella Guy - QuintonFlynn. Umbrella Guy's [[KeijiFujiwara seiyuu]] voiced [[KingdomHearts Axel]] and [[FinalFantasyVII Reno]], and since Quinton voiced the same roles...
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* Umbrella Guy - QuintonFlynn. Umbrella Guy's [[KeijiFujiwara seiyuu]] voiced [[KingdomHearts Axel]] and [[FinalFantasyVII [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Reno]], and since Quinton voiced the same roles...
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* Square Enix's embarrassing no-show of any titles at the 2013 Playstation 4 reveal, other than the express command that fans "please wait and be excited," combined with some off-site evidence, indicates that development has moved to that console and the title has been renamed ''FinalFantasyXV.''
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* Square Enix's embarrassing no-show of any titles at the 2013 Playstation 4 reveal, other than the express command that fans "please wait and be excited," combined with some off-site evidence, indicates that development has moved to that console and the title has been renamed ''FinalFantasyXV.''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXV.''
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** Remake of FF7 maybe. Probably the only thing that will cause people to forgive them for the wait.
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** Remake of FF7 [=FF7=] maybe. Probably the only thing that will cause people to forgive them for the wait.
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[[WMG: The world that XV takes place in, is the new world that Bhunivelze has Lightning guide souls to in Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, only far in the future.]]
* I mean think about it, the world in XV has the EXACT SAME MYTHOLOGY as in XIII, and most numbered FF titles have nothing connecting them to each other story wise, yet XIII and XV do. And this isn't the first time that something like this has happened....The people who migrated to Gaia in VII, were people who came from Spira, which was in X....
* I mean think about it, the world in XV has the EXACT SAME MYTHOLOGY as in XIII, and most numbered FF titles have nothing connecting them to each other story wise, yet XIII and XV do. And this isn't the first time that something like this has happened....The people who migrated to Gaia in VII, were people who came from Spira, which was in X....
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*** Errr... actually, developers said that none of the Fabula Nova Crystallis games take place in the same world; world, save for the XIII trilogy; each game takes place in the same universe; they mentioned crossovers were unlikely. What they share is a common mythology and the "vague crystal theme."
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*** But, you never know. For all we know, at the end of Lightning Returns, the new world Bhunivelze creates to escape the chaos infected Nova Crysallia, is the same world that XV takes place in. After all, they have the same mythology, unlike most FF titles....
*** But, you never know. For all we know, at the end of Lightning Returns, the new world Bhunivelze creates to escape the chaos infected Nova Crysallia, is the same world that XV takes place in. After all, they have the same mythology, unlike most FF titles....
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There have been changeable wardrobes in nearly every FF game released for the past couple years, so why not continue the trend?
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** Eh, since 7 does Lampshade it, I guess Versus would do that to an extent. ''Lampshade Deconstruction'' (DoWeHaveThis?) in this sense would be a bit extreme to say so, so maybe Versus will attempt to do the same. Either way, the core of this [=WMG=] assumes that Versus is the SpiritualSuccessor and/or {{Reconstruction}} to 7. Besides, [[WikiMagic can someone else find an example of a possible Deconstruction of this in 7 since this troper cannot?]]
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** Eh, since 7 does Lampshade it, I guess Versus would do that to an extent. ''Lampshade Deconstruction'' (DoWeHaveThis?) (Administrivia/DoWeHaveThisOne) in this sense would be a bit extreme to say so, so maybe Versus will attempt to do the same. Either way, the core of this [=WMG=] assumes that Versus is the SpiritualSuccessor and/or {{Reconstruction}} to 7. Besides, [[WikiMagic can someone else find an example of a possible Deconstruction of this in 7 since this troper cannot?]]
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* Umbrella Guy - QuintonFlynn. Umbrella Guy's [[KeijiFujiwara seiyuu]] voiced [[KingdomHearts Axel]] and [[FinalFantasyVII Reno]], and since Quinton voiced the same roles...
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* If the man's eyes are any indication, he's Gladiolus' father. They share the same eye colour. They also look disturbingly similar. From this it could be guessed that the pair both serve as bodyguards to the royal family, with Gladiolus tasked with Noctis, and this man with King Regis. The sinister nature of the image, however, cannot dissuade that this man may be capable of betrayal.
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* EDIT: If the man's eyes are any indication, he's Gladiolus' father. They share the same eye colour. They also look disturbingly similar. From this it could be guessed that the pair The leap isn't too far to make, as both serve as bodyguards to one half of the royal family, with Gladiolus tasked with Noctis, and the recently released (as of this man with King Regis.edit) English guide states that the Amicitias are a long line of royal guards, and Gladio continues that tradition. The sinister nature of the image, however, cannot dissuade that this man may be capable of betrayal.
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And it will involve our mysterious hooded figure being chased by Noctis and his allies, interestingly traversing the map a la LeParkour. Someone went out of their way to design him (or her. Who knows at this point) to resemble an Assassin. This ShoutOut would be inevitable, especially since exploration has become more free and open.
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And it will involve our mysterious hooded figure being chased by Noctis and his allies, interestingly traversing the map a la LeParkour. Someone went out of their way to design him (or her. Who knows at this point) to resemble an Assassin. This ShoutOut would be inevitable, especially since exploration has become more free and open.
open. That and they chose to dress up a guy in an iconic white hood with a head protector that makes the front-view profile looks ''exactly'' like an Assassin's beaked hood!
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This character may not have had any major focus in the trailers yet, but there is still some evidence supporting it. One is [[http://www.ff-xv.net/images/media/xv_e3_2013-461.jpg this]] image which shows that he is clearly a high ranking member of society, having close enough ties to the king to be in this meeting between kingdoms. Interestingly enough, despite his ties to the king, in [[http://www.ff-xv.net/images/media/51b7a882_Final-Fantasy-XV-Cast.png this image]] he appears to be on the other half of the picture opposing the protagonists. Aside from that, there are certain other clues from other places that may or may not support this idea. One, the story of the game is said to be based off of Hamlet, so a traitor to Regis is not completely out of the equation. Second, in the 2011 trailer Regis is talking to someone, mentioning that he will not pass on the title of king to anyone. [[WordOfGod Nomura]] stated that the person he was speaking to was not Noctis. Granted, he may have been talking to anyone else in the main cast, but it can be a good motivator for anyone to assassinate the king.
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This character may not have had any major focus in the trailers yet, but there is still some evidence supporting it. One is [[http://www.ff-xv.net/images/media/xv_e3_2013-461.jpg this]] image which shows that he is clearly a high ranking member of society, having close enough ties to the king to be in this meeting between kingdoms. Interestingly enough, despite his ties to the king, in [[http://www.ff-xv.net/images/media/51b7a882_Final-Fantasy-XV-Cast.png this image]] he appears to be doesn't appear on the other half either side of the picture opposing the protagonists. Aside from that, there picture, which leaves his alliance completely ambiguous. There are certain other clues from other places that may or may not support this idea. One, the story of the game is said to be based off of Hamlet, so a traitor to Regis is not completely out of the equation. Second, in the 2011 trailer Regis is talking to someone, mentioning that he will not pass on the title of king to anyone. [[WordOfGod Nomura]] stated that the person he was speaking to was not Noctis. Granted, he may have been talking to anyone else in the main cast, but it can be a good motivator for anyone to assassinate the king.
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[[WMG: [[http://www.ff-xv.net/images/media/51b7a7e1_Final-Fantasy-XV-Unknown-4.png This man]] is a traitor to the kingdom]]
This character may not have had any major focus in the trailers yet, but there is still some evidence supporting it. One is [[http://www.ff-xv.net/images/media/xv_e3_2013-460.jpg this]] image which shows that he is clearly a high ranking member of society, having close ties to the king to be in this meeting between. Interestingly enough, despite his ties to the king, in [[http://www.ff-xv.net/images/media/51b7a882_Final-Fantasy-XV-Cast.png this image]] he appears to be on the other half of the picture opposing the protagonists. Aside from that, there are certain other clues from other places that may or may not support this idea. One, the story of the game is said to be based off of Hamlet, so a traitor to Regis is not completely out of the equation. Second, in the 2011 trailer Regis is talking to someone, mentioning that he will not pass on the title of king to anyone. [[WordOfGod Nomura]] stated that the person he was speaking to was not Noctis. Granted, he may have been talking to anyone else in the main cast, but it can be a good motivator for anyone to assassinate the king.
This character may not have had any major focus in the trailers yet, but there is still some evidence supporting it. One is [[http://www.ff-xv.net/images/media/xv_e3_2013-460.jpg this]] image which shows that he is clearly a high ranking member of society, having close ties to the king to be in this meeting between. Interestingly enough, despite his ties to the king, in [[http://www.ff-xv.net/images/media/51b7a882_Final-Fantasy-XV-Cast.png this image]] he appears to be on the other half of the picture opposing the protagonists. Aside from that, there are certain other clues from other places that may or may not support this idea. One, the story of the game is said to be based off of Hamlet, so a traitor to Regis is not completely out of the equation. Second, in the 2011 trailer Regis is talking to someone, mentioning that he will not pass on the title of king to anyone. [[WordOfGod Nomura]] stated that the person he was speaking to was not Noctis. Granted, he may have been talking to anyone else in the main cast, but it can be a good motivator for anyone to assassinate the king.
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kingdom of Lucis]]
This character may not have had any major focus in the trailers yet, but there is still some evidence supporting it. One is [[http://www.ff-xv.net/images/media/xv_e3_2013-460.net/images/media/xv_e3_2013-461.jpg this]] image which shows that he is clearly a high ranking member of society, having close enough ties to the king to be in this meeting between.between kingdoms. Interestingly enough, despite his ties to the king, in [[http://www.ff-xv.net/images/media/51b7a882_Final-Fantasy-XV-Cast.png this image]] he appears to be on the other half of the picture opposing the protagonists. Aside from that, there are certain other clues from other places that may or may not support this idea. One, the story of the game is said to be based off of Hamlet, so a traitor to Regis is not completely out of the equation. Second, in the 2011 trailer Regis is talking to someone, mentioning that he will not pass on the title of king to anyone. [[WordOfGod Nomura]] stated that the person he was speaking to was not Noctis. Granted, he may have been talking to anyone else in the main cast, but it can be a good motivator for anyone to assassinate the king.
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[[WMG: [[http://www.ff-xv.net/images/media/51b7a7e1_Final-Fantasy-XV-Unknown-4.png This man]] is a traitor to the kingdom]]
This character may not have had any major focus in the trailers yet, but there is still some evidence supporting it. One is [[http://www.ff-xv.net/images/media/xv_e3_2013-460.jpg this]] image which shows that he is clearly a high ranking member of society, having close ties to the king to be in this meeting between. Interestingly enough, despite his ties to the king, in [[http://www.ff-xv.net/images/media/51b7a882_Final-Fantasy-XV-Cast.png this image]] he appears to be on the other half of the picture opposing the protagonists. Aside from that, there are certain other clues from other places that may or may not support this idea. One, the story of the game is said to be based off of Hamlet, so a traitor to Regis is not completely out of the equation. Second, in the 2011 trailer Regis is talking to someone, mentioning that he will not pass on the title of king to anyone. [[WordOfGod Nomura]] stated that the person he was speaking to was not Noctis. Granted, he may have been talking to anyone else in the main cast, but it can be a good motivator for anyone to assassinate the king.
This character may not have had any major focus in the trailers yet, but there is still some evidence supporting it. One is [[http://www.ff-xv.net/images/media/xv_e3_2013-460.jpg this]] image which shows that he is clearly a high ranking member of society, having close ties to the king to be in this meeting between. Interestingly enough, despite his ties to the king, in [[http://www.ff-xv.net/images/media/51b7a882_Final-Fantasy-XV-Cast.png this image]] he appears to be on the other half of the picture opposing the protagonists. Aside from that, there are certain other clues from other places that may or may not support this idea. One, the story of the game is said to be based off of Hamlet, so a traitor to Regis is not completely out of the equation. Second, in the 2011 trailer Regis is talking to someone, mentioning that he will not pass on the title of king to anyone. [[WordOfGod Nomura]] stated that the person he was speaking to was not Noctis. Granted, he may have been talking to anyone else in the main cast, but it can be a good motivator for anyone to assassinate the king.
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[[WMG: There will be platforming segments akin to the chase sequences from AssassinsCreed]]
And it will involve our mysterious hooded figure being chased by Noctis and his allies, interestingly traversing the map a la LeParkour. Someone went out of their way to design him (or her. Who knows at this point) to resemble an Assassin. This ShoutOut would be inevitable, especially since exploration has become more free and open.
And it will involve our mysterious hooded figure being chased by Noctis and his allies, interestingly traversing the map a la LeParkour. Someone went out of their way to design him (or her. Who knows at this point) to resemble an Assassin. This ShoutOut would be inevitable, especially since exploration has become more free and open.
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[[WMG: The pink-haired man with the hat will be TheRival or TheStarscream.]]
He just gives off that vibe somehow, what with the whole amused way he says "This is turning into quite the ordeal." He's going to be either the recurring rival or this game's Sephiroth.
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** Along with the hair color, both hooded guy and Prompto's hair were changed to be wavier-looking (instead of straight like Stella's), too, between the 2009 trailer and E3 trailer.
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** They're probably not the same person, though they do seem to have the similar hair color. One of the 2009 trailers show Noctis and the hooded Assassin's Creed-esque guy face-to-face, with the latter taking off his hood. It's a little difficult to tell from the lighting, but it looks as though the hooded guy has shoulder-length hair as opposed to Prompto's shorter, unruly hair. Hooded dude is also shown to use magic/powers of some sort while Prompto's a firearms specialist (unless Prompto turns out to use magic, too, for some reason).
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** They're probably not the same person, though they do seem to have the similar hair color. One of the 2009 trailers show Noctis and the hooded Assassin's Creed-esque guy face-to-face, with the latter taking off his hood. It's a little difficult to tell from the lighting, but it looks as though the hooded guy has shoulder-length hair as opposed to Prompto's shorter, unruly hair. Hooded dude is also shown to use magic/powers of some sort while Prompto's a firearms specialist (unless Prompto turns out to use magic, too, for some reason).
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** They're probably not the same person, though they do seem to have the similar hair color. One of the 2009 trailers show Noctis and the hooded Assassin's Creed-esque guy face-to-face, with the latter taking off his hood. It's a little difficult to tell from the lighting, but it looks as though the hooded guy has shoulder-length hair as opposed to Prompto's shorter, unruly hair. Hooded dude is also shown to use magic/powers of some sort while Prompto's a firearms specialist (unless Prompto turns out to use magic, too, for some reason).
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* The fact that Prompto is a recently-made friend of Noctis might support the idea that Prompto and the AssCreed guy might be the same person.
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Everyone expects the game to be super grim with lots of death and a sad ending. It'd be kind of boring if that's exactly what it turns out to be. But it's also a good opportunity to surprise people with some degree of brightness and emotional payoff. Bright things shining brighter in the dark and all that.
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[[WMG: The cloaked guy giving off Assassin's Creed vibes in the new VideoGame/FinalFantasyXV trailer is either Prompto (...somehow...) or Prompto's twin--or simply younger or older--brother or something.]]
I mean, he's a blond with a fluffy hairstyle that looks short except for a lock hanging off on the side (at least from what I could make of it in the two seconds you see it in the 720p E3 trailer on Youtube) and they have similar enough facial structure (nose, even mouth if you subtract the shadow of the lips; maybe his face is a little slimmer, though?) at the ensemble cast card at the end. And writers do love those [[SiblingTropes brother tropes]].
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** '''CONFIRMED''': And not through the above post's reasoning. The trailer uses the tagline "the story of VERSUS", meaning it'll receive its own saga much like Final Fantasy XIII's "Lightning Saga" while still being tied to the Fabula Nova Crystalis series.
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[[WMG: ''Versus'' is a {{Reconstruction}} of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII''.]]
Whereas 7 decided to BreakTheCutie[=/=]KillTheCutie, Squeenix decided to give her edge, thus possibly averting the trope, but replaces it with the reason why [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Aeris]] and Cloud can't be together canonically. Where Aeris failed, Stella succeeds, shown in how much of a CuteBruiser Stella is compared to MagicalGirl Aeris. As such, where Cloud is the big man with the false facade, Noctis is the subverted character: a man with [[PersonOfMassDestruction large potential]] but decides to have good, outwardly shy intentions underneath that cool facade of his. Finally, where 7 deconstructed the AnimeHair, Versus will reconstructs it with the YouGottaHaveBlueHair motif.
Expect something along the lines of parent issues when playing through Versus; 7 didn't like going into that subject often, so expect reasons why Cloud behaved like a wuss in wolf's clothing and Aeris is a Magical Girl.
EDIT: For compare/contrast, look at the [=WMG=] directly below this one (Final Battle Will Be Against Stella) and the last one (HeroicSacrifice). [[RuleOfThree All three]] appear to go hand-in-hand.
* Huh, can you give me example where AnimeHair is deconstructed? I mean, besides LampshadeHanging, that is.
** Eh, since 7 does Lampshade it, I guess Versus would do that to an extent. ''Lampshade Deconstruction'' (DoWeHaveThis?) in this sense would be a bit extreme to say so, so maybe Versus will attempt to do the same. Either way, the core of this [=WMG=] assumes that Versus is the SpiritualSuccessor and/or {{Reconstruction}} to 7. Besides, [[WikiMagic can someone else find an example of a possible Deconstruction of this in 7 since this troper cannot?]]
[[WMG: The final battle of the game will be against Stella.]]
Furthermore, she will ''not'' go OneWingedAngel. She'll get powerful, but she will remain her original form, looking exactly like herself, ''the entire time,'' just to make it extra-hard on the player. Why? Well, this is supposed to be the [[DarkerAndEdgier darkest]] FinalFantasy yet. [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII They've already shown they're willing to]] KillTheCutie, so what's one step beyond that? Making ''you'' kill her. Not to mention the scene in the trailer of Noctis and Stella drawing their weapons on each other... alternatively, it will subvert the entire concept of a FinalBoss by having an intentional loss letting yourself be beaten and then choosing to PressXToDie, or by having running away be an option the entire time that will actually work if you try enough, but Stella usually stops you. Actually beating her in this case would provide a NonstandardGameOver.
* [[spoiler:[[KingdomHeartsThreeFiveEightDaysOverTwo It's not like Square isn't known to have you as the player]] KillTheCutie, either...]]
[[WMG: The final battle of the game will be against Etro.]]
If they decide to go the "bigass terrifying final boss" route, unlike the above WMG.
[[WMG: Noctis and Stella will become either the OfficialCouple or StarCrossedLovers.]]
Don't they just give off that whole vibe?
* Actually, it would most likely be both. OfficialCouple due to being shown damn close to each other in nearly everything, and StarCrossedLovers for TOO OBVIOUS reasons.
[[WMG: Alternatively, SquareEnix is deliberately screwing with the pre-release Shippers.]]
They set up Noctis and Stella deliberately so everyone will assume the StarCrossedLovers WMG is true, and they intend to do something to make the whole concept simply ''loaded'' with Squick - Stella is much [[OlderThanTheyLook Older Than She Looks]] and is a baby, for example, or is Noctis's ''daughter'' conjured up in time travel, or something else gross. Or, less meanly, just otherwise sinking the ship by making one of them canonically gay or [[RealityEnsues having them decide they're]] [[BetterAsFriends too close as friends to risk that by hooking up.]]
* [[strike: In fact, this has just been confirmed: Nomura has stated in an [[http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/2010/03/31/nomura-kotaku-interview-noctis-is-gay.html interview]] that Noctis is gay.]] Or not. It was an [[http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/2010/04/01/it-s-april-1st-somewhere.html April Fools prank.]]
* I read this as a TakeThat to [[FanDumb the bad fanbase.]] ItMakesSenseInContext.
[[WMG: Godzilla will show up]]
Then the game will reveal its true name: "Final Fantasy: Godzilla vs. XIII". And she'll fight the entire cast of FFXIII. And she'll ''win''.
[[WMG: Noctis is [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII Hope]].]]
* A grown up Hope, but Hope nevertheless.
** Probably not. Versus doesn't take place in the same world, and Noct has ''black'' hair.
*** Hair dye.
*** Noctis' hair seems pretty silver to me. Dark silver, but silver none the less.
** Actually, the entire Fabula Novus Crystallis trilogy is set in the same universe, and with all the magic FinalFantasy has, it would not be surprising if they could find someway to crossover. Their personalities certainly fits.
*** Errr... actually, developers said that none of the Fabula Nova Crystallis games take place in the same world; each game takes place in the same universe; they mentioned crossovers were unlikely. What they share is a common mythology and the "vague crystal theme."
[[WMG: [[KingdomHearts Organization XIII]] will show up as a BonusBoss.]]
[[WMG: This and XIII are parallel universes, with Versus beginning shortly before the end of XIII.]]
So Square-Enix has said that the games don't take place in the same world. Allegedly this means that they aren't really connected at all. However, the main plan of the BigBad in XIII is to [[spoiler:call the Maker back into the world by killing so many people that the door to "the next world" is forced wide open. It's implied that the crystal light floating around near the end of the game is the preliminary form of this happening.]] In the one dialogue scene we've seen in Versus XIII, they discuss a light they see in the sky, which is supposed to be the goddess accepting the souls of the dead into the other side. Additionally, the arks were built to prepare for an invasion by the "outside", but the Analects reveal that this doesn't refer to Cocoon at all.
* Compare and contrast the Gran Pulse WMG one below. It may not be [[spoiler:the Maker]] exactly, but somewhere close to the Goddess Etro, since she is featured more often.
[[WMG: This is the world of Gran Pulse, in the past.]]
Not so much WMG as assuming that SE was lying so that the revelation that [[spoiler: Gran Pulse used to be really very advanced]] is more of a shock.
[[WMG: The Eye Colors are actually Battle Modes given by the Crystal. This is also a critical story element.]]
Strictly speaking, a normal eye color is a general fight, with no extra abilities and magic.
A red color is when Noctis and his family line uses the Crystal. This explains why Noctis is able to be Badass in the first trailer, and why Noctis is the only person who can use magic: he's using the Crystal. This follows in line with the RedEyesTakeWarning trope.
That gold/white eye color is the [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII Gestalt Mode]] for that game. In other words, we may see Bahamut as a Summon for the game.
[[WMG: Noctis's friend Prompto is going to die.]]
The game does have Shakespearean elements, and [[strike:the blonde haired guy]] Prompto gives off a "Mercutio vibe," IMO.
* Though it appears that the game is based more on ''{{Hamlet}}'' than ''RomeoAndJuliet''.
* It goes with the KillTheCutie tendency. Also, he's the one that everyone in the team seems most comfortable with. See how he messes around with Noctis, is ruffled by Gladiolus, and sits in the front seat with Ignis.
** Please note that he's the one Noctis is first seen interacting with before the explosion in the trailer.
* My guess is that this will send Noctis into a wild rampaging [[BigBrotherInstinct killing fit in revenge]]. And be an emotional turning point in the game.
* This might effectively move blondie's [[TheWoobie woobie]] status towards Noctis.
* If we're following the theme of this game taking from ''Hamlet'', then ''everyone else'' will die out of Noct's posse, Prompto the last to survive and witness the "sweet prince" sacrifice himself at the very end of the game.
** If anyone's going to be the Horatio-type character, it'd probably be Ignis. He seems to be Noctis's advisor and strategist.
[[WMG:Alternatively, Noctis and Stella were dead before the game started, or they will be dead over the course of the game.]]
Or worse: [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica they can be considered dead already]]. This game will mostly rely on {{Immortality}} and why they can "see the light", which is a [[{{Foreshadow}} critical plot spoiler]]: the Crystal that they are fighting over is dying, and they know it. I see very bad shades of ''Madoka Magica'' incoming. [[WhamEpisode Brace]] [[WhamLine yourself]].
[[WMG: This game will correct everything that everybody hated from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'' and everybody will still hate it.]]
Truly a wild and mass guess, because knowing SquareEnix, Versus XIII will invent a whole ''new'' set of things for everybody to hate... or will probably keep on doing everything that (some feel) XIII did wrong.
* ''Some''one's gonna hate ''some''thing about it. A bunch of people are going to love ''some''thing about it. {{Flame War}}s ''will'' erupt. This is easily the least wild guess on the page.
[[WMG: Stella will become TheOphelia]].
The game is based on ''{{Hamlet}}''. Come on. This may also be connected to the first guess - Stella gains a huge amount of power, WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity, and the player has to kill the poor sweet LoveInterest who's gone ethereally crazy and just doesn't understand that she's setting fires and killing people as she giggles and dances and tosses flowers here and there.
** I think she already shows traits of this in the trailer (though TrailersAlwaysLie and/or it's only this troper's interpretation) [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiIx9VJWSl8 at 2:00]] the way how she just stares at the sky (presumably staring at the light) it's creepy and she looks cute at the same time. That or the [[UncannyValley animation makes it look creepy]].
[[WMG: The game will be one massive KillEmAll.]]
They're quoting ''{{Hamlet}}'', of all things. What with that and the trailer wherein Noctis single-handedly slaughters what looks to be an entire army, what other option is there?
[[WMG: Noctis will be completely, utterly, unbelievably {{Adorkable}}.]]
Come on. Guy who acts aloof in public but is really shy and nervous and loves to laugh and hang around with his friends? Just ''typing'' that makes me wanna {{Squee}}.
[[WMG: XIII and Versus XIII are connected]]
Tenebrae looks similar to [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII Padra]], or rather Padra would resemble Tenebrae where it not destroyed in the War of Transgression. The developers have stated long ago that ''XIII'' and ''Versus'' will have no direct connection, although like the ''Ivalice Alliance'' this could simply mean the games are set on the same planet, hundreds of years apart from one another.
* And [[http://www.destructoid.com/final-fantasy-versus-xiii-scans-details-on-open-world-177368.phtml recent scans]] suggest that the alphabet of both games appear to be the same, which fuels the theory a bit.
* There have also been a few theories trying to link the Goddess Etro to [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX Necron]] (appearance, theme of death) and [[DissidiaFinalFantasy Cosmos]] (an AbortedArc from the trailer had the villains call Cosmos "The Goddess of Death", which is what the myths believe Etro to be).
[[WMG: The Fabula Nova Crystallis games will take a decade to develop.]]
When this series was announced as a "ten-year project", we all thought they meant they would be making games for ten years. Actually what they meant is that Agito and Versus ''might'' be out by 2016-2017.
[[WMG: ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVersusXIII'' is going to be Square Enix's ''VideoGame/DukeNukemForever'']]
[[StarWars Search your feelings]], [[TheEmpireStrikesBack you know it to be true]].
[[WMG: Noctis and his three friends will be the Warriors of Light.]]
Well, there are four of them. So yeah.
[[WMG: Prompto is Stella's little brother.]]
He seems like the youngest out of the four friends, and it appears like Noctis and Stella have a past too. Since Stella and him look pretty similar (or that could just be Square Enix designs), they might be siblings. This could also explain how Prompto got to know Noctis and the others, and why they treat him like a little brother.
[[WMG: This game will eventually become ''Final Fantasy XV''.]]
Let's face it, this game isn't coming out any time soon. And yet, Square-Enix has stated that they won't begin production on the inevitable ''XV'' until ''Versus XIII'' is finished. Most likely, after 2 or 3 more years, Square Enix will say "f*ck this Fabula Nova Crystalis sh*t" and just rename the game to ''Final Fantasy XV''.
UPDATE: With the recent re-titling of ''Agito XIII'' to ''Type-0'', it's possible that the latter half of this WMG is actually coming true. Who knows, perhaps the first half will as well...
** Alternatively, this game was meant to be FF15, but used Versus XIII as a fake working title. It's kind of like how some films are shipped out to theaters or auditions are given fake names.
[[WMG: One of Noctis' friends will pull a FaceHeelTurn.]]
Or at reveal himself as TheMole. Maybe that will lead Noctis cross his DespairEventHorizon and go berserk.
* Some people on the internet have guessed that Prompto is the White-Robed Man. Said man is blond, about the right height, and doesn't look exactly dissimilar. On the other hand, his hair is slightly longer than Prompto's and a lighter blond, and just about everybody's that little bit taller than Noctis. So...YMMV?
[[WMG: Noctis or Stella has a SuperpoweredEvilSide]]
I don't know, just feel like they would.
[[WMG: All of the main enemies and bosses will be people who have also "seen the light" of the death goddess]]
* Both Noctis and Stella have, most likely from having a near-death experience. It's not much of a stretch to assume that other characters have, and that they might want to use the powers they gained for evil.
[[WMG: Related to the above theories of a connection from the end of VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII to Versus XIII or that Hope is Noctis...]]
* When the characters in one world (that is, either the Versus world or the XIII world) die, they are reincarnated into the other world. So, hypothetically, the Hope=Noctis WMG could be plausible. If/when Hope dies in the Final Fantasy XIII world, he could be reincarnated into Noctis.
[[WMG: The armored DarkActionGirl fighting Noctis in the latest trailer ''might'' be Stella.]]
* It's possible. Stella will be an antagonist in the game, as Noctis and Stella will be forced to fight each other, but it hasn't been revealed ''how'' Noctis will discover Stella is his enemy. And the armored woman is blond, which can mean Stella or an entirely new character.
** {{Jossed}}. An interview with Nomura in [[http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/01/24/flying_get_d_style/ Dengeki]] magazine tells us that's not Stella, just an enemy.
[[WMG: The two old men at the end of the recent trailer are actually Noctis and the White Robed Man from previous trailers, in the future. The whole game is about their conflict, leading up to their final confrontation at the end of their lives.]]
* I mean, one's keeping his White Mage styled robe, and the other has Noctis' weapons ready. It's a tempting thought.
** {{Jossed}}, despite how interesting that sounds. A translation of King Caelum's lines in the 2011 trailer reveals him as (desiring to be) the last king and he is inevitably the one facing off against the white robed man in the trailer. Which leads me to ponder...
[[WMG: The confrontation of King Caelum and the White Robed Man will be a battle leading to a {{Heroic Sacrifice}}, and occurs early in the game]]
King Caelum wants to be the last king, he doesn't want Hamlet to succeed the throne, and the caption after his scene in the trailer read "An act of love by the last king". There was also a scene with (presumably) Noctis running through a forest to meet with the king and the perspective made the king out to be much taller, thus making it seem like it was a flashback to Noct's childhood. His death is fuel for Noctis, probably the primary reason for why he's fighting. At the end of the trailer he asks Ignis about exacting revenge tenfold, to which Ignis corrects him that they'll exact revenge ''a hundredfold''. It could also be a reason behind why he's trying so hard to fight, even when his friend's warn him that he is overestimating his abilities and acting rashly that his citizens might get hurt from all the fighting.
And if we're going to juice the life out of the Hamlet-based storyline theory, then the White Robed man would be Noctis' uncle seizing the crystal to rule over the kingdom.
[[WMG: Everyone is going to die or be effectively dead.]]
* It's not that hard to imagine this game ending on a DownerEnding of epic proportions. Somehow, every main character will die or otherwise rendered completely impotent as the game progresses. The game's said to have a theme of death, and Etro, the Goddess of Death, appears to be taking a major role in the story. Presumably, all of Noctis's friends will die first, probably making [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifices]] which may or may not be [[SenselessSacrifice senseless.]] The final boss will be a HopelessBossFight which ends with Noctis dying at the hands of a BrainwashedAndCrazy Stella, who goes comatose or dies after seeing him die. The villains won't necessarily win, but neither will the heroes.
[[WMG: This game will have themes that are the complete opposite of the themes of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII.'']]
* Noctis will not be like Squall; that's just a front he puts up out of shyness, and he'll never have Squall's determination and focus. Stella might be similar to Rinoa, even meeting the hero while wearing a white dress, but she won't get the DistressBall like Rinoa did, and maybe she'd rather be JustFriends, and instead of disliking her magical abilities (which may or may not be a case of CursedWithAwesome), she'll be pretty satisfied with them. Instead of FFVIII's unabashedly happy ending, Versus will end with a massive DownerEnding. Noctis won't end up with Stella or any other LoveInterest, and, at least in this universe, [[YouCantFightFate you can't fight fate.]] While Rinoa was most certainly ''not'' Ultimecia, Stella ''will'' be the BigBad, though not necessarily by time travel. Maybe Noctis will have Squall's AlwaysSaveTheGirl mentality, but he won't always save her. Basically, ''Versus'' will be the inverse of ''FinalFantasyVIII,'' just to screw with the fans. The only theme they'll share is the youth of the main characters causing huge problems. Except in the case of Versus, said main characters ''won't'' be able to fix things.
[[WMG: The Game's Ultimate conflict will be [[WhiteAndWhiteMorality White v. White]]]]
* What else could be more tragic than Ultimate Good fighting against Ultimate Good?
[[WMG: Prompto is a [[BlessedWithSuck l'Cie.]]]]
* He's said to be a 'recent' friend of Noctis', and the rumours are flying around he's some sort of fugitive. What if he's a fugitive because of his l'Cie status, and his focus is to kill Noctis; he befriends him to get close.
** The real reason why he's a fugitive is that he uses a shotgun, which are banned in Noctis's country.
[[WMG: There will be a SayMyName towards Stella]]
Come on, [[MemeticMutation you all know]] [[AStreetcarNamedDesire where this is going]].
** It will be Subverted. He'll actually end up sobbing over Stella's corpse, as he was [[HeroicBSOD forced to kill her as part of Bhuniverzi's will]], whispering "Stella" before the screen fades to black.
[[WMG: We will be able to change certain things over the course of the game]]
In a recent Famitsu, Nomura said that all of the cutscenes will be fully controllable, so the player never feels like they're not playing. This troper is guessing that the player will be able to change a few important events over the game, gaining the possibility of a new/different ending.
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[[WMG: The assault shown happens at the begining of the game, thus giving Noctis full access to his powers.]]
First, it's said to be in the blood; Noctris' father was shown lately to use the same arsenal in his last confrontation. 'Of course he was using it' referred to a Crystal, which gives the limited access to powers, but only death of someone's else fully activate it. That's why near-death experience unlocks it: the person in question was dying. It's hid from the people what Crystal really is.
Second, powers activate only by the cost of someone's else life, as mentioned at the trailer shown Stella and Noct talking about 'the light'. It's seen at the sky that night, and Noct says 'goodbye', possibly knowing what his father was up to. Shortly after that the assault begun. It's a first chapter.
More of it, there is this dream-like sequence in the wood at the morning, and because the camera is set low, it's most possibly Noct as a child. His father seems younger there, obviously. He is already dead by that time, it's an retrospection sent to haunt the user of powers bound.
In short: if you want to use the powers, keep killing. Make death stick to you. That's what allows you to use it without Crystal(which acts as a passive storage, people die every day). So yeah, Nice Job Noct...Stella wants to stop Noct when she realized the source of her powers, and it drives her possibly insane (supporting The Ophelia theory) or going Break The Cutie scenerio and join him.
The 'last act of love' is the twist in all this power deal- Crystal itself is fueled by deaths, and the last king, concerned by the well-being of his country and sanity of his child, decides to break the circle and cut Noct off the Crystal, destroing it in the process. That's why it's so bloody, killing is the fuel for magic and every power. It fits also 'fantasy based on reality' theme: power is usually earned by sacrificing something else, and through pain and suffering of people (tyrany).
[[WMG: The game will become it's own series]]
With how much is being put into this game, it's baffling that this is a spin-off. I think sometime during developement, it would either:
* '''A''': Become ''FinalFantasyXV'' like the above guess said.
* '''B''': Given an entirely new name and become its own series.
It does seem strange that the spin-off takes longer to develop than the main series..
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[[WMG: All the main cast of FFXIII will be present in some sense or other.]]
Maybe they'll be mentioned offhandedly, like, a legendary woman that challenged the demigods/Fal'Cie with her friends. Or they'll actually be present on-screen, not looking exactly like themselves, but close nonetheless. Like a cameo. For instance maybe there's a man that works in Noctis' palace that is immensely tall and well-built, who's hair is blond and he keeps it wrapped up somehow. The -XII games share the same universe after all, maybe we'll get some sort of ''TsubasaReservoirChronicles'' situation where the same people are on every world but look different.
[[WMG: The game will have a pretty sad ending]]
None of the titles in the Fabula Nova Crystallis compilation have a truly happy ending (not counting alternate endings). And as so often stated, FFvXIII is the darkest ''Final Fantasy'' title yet, so while dark is not always equals to bad ending, it does sometimes connect.
[[WMG: The men in white]]
* The Elder One- King Caelum's brother. With all the Shakespearian connections, they'll probably go the ''{{Hamlet}}'' route and have him murder the King (and frame Noctis for it so he won't get the throne). In the trailer, King Caelum told somebody he was not fit to be king, but WordOfGod implied that it wasn't Noctis he was talking to.
* The Younger One- Either the elder's son or his clone. Possible [[TheDragon dragon]].
[[WMG: Possible voice actors]]
* Noctis- Either YuriLowenthall, JohnnyYongBosch, AarronDismuke, or Vincent Martella.
* Ignis- Either TroyBaker, TravisWillingham, or JMichaelTatum.
* Prompto- VicMignogna.
* Gladious- Creator/CrispinFreeman.
* Stella- Either LauraBailey, CaitlynGlass, or StephanieSheh.
** I predict Prompto will be played by Yuri, Stella by Laura, and Noctis by either Troy or Aaron(because I think Vincent istoo young).
** I for one predict TaraStrong to have a role somewhere.
[[WMG: Why the game is taking so long]]
* internal disagrements on what will be in the game
* hiding the developement of another game with the developement of Versus
** Remake of FF7 maybe. Probably the only thing that will cause people to forgive them for the wait.
* Square Enix's embarrassing no-show of any titles at the 2013 Playstation 4 reveal, other than the express command that fans "please wait and be excited," combined with some off-site evidence, indicates that development has moved to that console and the title has been renamed ''FinalFantasyXV.''
[[WMG: The line of kings Noctis belongs to were, in fact, l'Cie]]
Including Noctis, himself, and the rulers of those nations whose crystals were destroyed at the time of the war. Each had a Focus and a brand much like any l’Cie, only in ''Versus XIII''’s world, a Focus is hereditary and passed down from heir-to-heir, and brings with it great power and authority.
[[WMG: The world of ''Final Fantasy Versus XIII'' is trapped in worldwide crystal stasis]]
One of several major themes that is said to be relevant to the game’s plot is “Sleep,” and as crystal stasis in ''Final Fantasy XIII'' was implied to be akin to eternal slumber, the theme of “Sleep” in ''Versus XIII'' may relate to some variation of crystal stasis.
The game is stated to take place at the “clearing” of a war between nations that revolved around the crystals – think a nuclear exchange – resulting in the crystals’ destruction. What if the end of the crystals brought about a kind of crystal stasis that enveloped the entire world? The game has post-apocalyptic overtones that lend its locales an eerie sense of desolation; crippled freeways, crooked power-lines running parallel to empty stretches of fractured road – one wonders if the world really ''did'' survive the war at all.
Perhaps the events of the game are merely the product of an elaborate recreation of the real world, ala ''Final Fantasy X''’s Dream Zanarkand, conjured by the dreams of those trapped within worldwide crystal stasis.
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Whereas 7 decided to BreakTheCutie[=/=]KillTheCutie, Squeenix decided to give her edge, thus possibly averting the trope, but replaces it with the reason why [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Aeris]] and Cloud can't be together canonically. Where Aeris failed, Stella succeeds, shown in how much of a CuteBruiser Stella is compared to MagicalGirl Aeris. As such, where Cloud is the big man with the false facade, Noctis is the subverted character: a man with [[PersonOfMassDestruction large potential]] but decides to have good, outwardly shy intentions underneath that cool facade of his. Finally, where 7 deconstructed the AnimeHair, Versus will reconstructs it with the YouGottaHaveBlueHair motif.
Expect something along the lines of parent issues when playing through Versus; 7 didn't like going into that subject often, so expect reasons why Cloud behaved like a wuss in wolf's clothing and Aeris is a Magical Girl.
EDIT: For compare/contrast, look at the [=WMG=] directly below this one (Final Battle Will Be Against Stella) and the last one (HeroicSacrifice). [[RuleOfThree All three]] appear to go hand-in-hand.
* Huh, can you give me example where AnimeHair is deconstructed? I mean, besides LampshadeHanging, that is.
** Eh, since 7 does Lampshade it, I guess Versus would do that to an extent. ''Lampshade Deconstruction'' (DoWeHaveThis?) in this sense would be a bit extreme to say so, so maybe Versus will attempt to do the same. Either way, the core of this [=WMG=] assumes that Versus is the SpiritualSuccessor and/or {{Reconstruction}} to 7. Besides, [[WikiMagic can someone else find an example of a possible Deconstruction of this in 7 since this troper cannot?]]
[[WMG: The final battle of the game will be against Stella.]]
Furthermore, she will ''not'' go OneWingedAngel. She'll get powerful, but she will remain her original form, looking exactly like herself, ''the entire time,'' just to make it extra-hard on the player. Why? Well, this is supposed to be the [[DarkerAndEdgier darkest]] FinalFantasy yet. [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII They've already shown they're willing to]] KillTheCutie, so what's one step beyond that? Making ''you'' kill her. Not to mention the scene in the trailer of Noctis and Stella drawing their weapons on each other... alternatively, it will subvert the entire concept of a FinalBoss by having an intentional loss letting yourself be beaten and then choosing to PressXToDie, or by having running away be an option the entire time that will actually work if you try enough, but Stella usually stops you. Actually beating her in this case would provide a NonstandardGameOver.
* [[spoiler:[[KingdomHeartsThreeFiveEightDaysOverTwo It's not like Square isn't known to have you as the player]] KillTheCutie, either...]]
[[WMG: The final battle of the game will be against Etro.]]
If they decide to go the "bigass terrifying final boss" route, unlike the above WMG.
[[WMG: Noctis and Stella will become either the OfficialCouple or StarCrossedLovers.]]
Don't they just give off that whole vibe?
* Actually, it would most likely be both. OfficialCouple due to being shown damn close to each other in nearly everything, and StarCrossedLovers for TOO OBVIOUS reasons.
[[WMG: Alternatively, SquareEnix is deliberately screwing with the pre-release Shippers.]]
They set up Noctis and Stella deliberately so everyone will assume the StarCrossedLovers WMG is true, and they intend to do something to make the whole concept simply ''loaded'' with Squick - Stella is much [[OlderThanTheyLook Older Than She Looks]] and is a baby, for example, or is Noctis's ''daughter'' conjured up in time travel, or something else gross. Or, less meanly, just otherwise sinking the ship by making one of them canonically gay or [[RealityEnsues having them decide they're]] [[BetterAsFriends too close as friends to risk that by hooking up.]]
* [[strike: In fact, this has just been confirmed: Nomura has stated in an [[http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/2010/03/31/nomura-kotaku-interview-noctis-is-gay.html interview]] that Noctis is gay.]] Or not. It was an [[http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/2010/04/01/it-s-april-1st-somewhere.html April Fools prank.]]
* I read this as a TakeThat to [[FanDumb the bad fanbase.]] ItMakesSenseInContext.
[[WMG: Godzilla will show up]]
Then the game will reveal its true name: "Final Fantasy: Godzilla vs. XIII". And she'll fight the entire cast of FFXIII. And she'll ''win''.
[[WMG: Noctis is [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII Hope]].]]
* A grown up Hope, but Hope nevertheless.
** Probably not. Versus doesn't take place in the same world, and Noct has ''black'' hair.
*** Hair dye.
*** Noctis' hair seems pretty silver to me. Dark silver, but silver none the less.
** Actually, the entire Fabula Novus Crystallis trilogy is set in the same universe, and with all the magic FinalFantasy has, it would not be surprising if they could find someway to crossover. Their personalities certainly fits.
*** Errr... actually, developers said that none of the Fabula Nova Crystallis games take place in the same world; each game takes place in the same universe; they mentioned crossovers were unlikely. What they share is a common mythology and the "vague crystal theme."
[[WMG: [[KingdomHearts Organization XIII]] will show up as a BonusBoss.]]
[[WMG: This and XIII are parallel universes, with Versus beginning shortly before the end of XIII.]]
So Square-Enix has said that the games don't take place in the same world. Allegedly this means that they aren't really connected at all. However, the main plan of the BigBad in XIII is to [[spoiler:call the Maker back into the world by killing so many people that the door to "the next world" is forced wide open. It's implied that the crystal light floating around near the end of the game is the preliminary form of this happening.]] In the one dialogue scene we've seen in Versus XIII, they discuss a light they see in the sky, which is supposed to be the goddess accepting the souls of the dead into the other side. Additionally, the arks were built to prepare for an invasion by the "outside", but the Analects reveal that this doesn't refer to Cocoon at all.
* Compare and contrast the Gran Pulse WMG one below. It may not be [[spoiler:the Maker]] exactly, but somewhere close to the Goddess Etro, since she is featured more often.
[[WMG: This is the world of Gran Pulse, in the past.]]
Not so much WMG as assuming that SE was lying so that the revelation that [[spoiler: Gran Pulse used to be really very advanced]] is more of a shock.
[[WMG: The Eye Colors are actually Battle Modes given by the Crystal. This is also a critical story element.]]
Strictly speaking, a normal eye color is a general fight, with no extra abilities and magic.
A red color is when Noctis and his family line uses the Crystal. This explains why Noctis is able to be Badass in the first trailer, and why Noctis is the only person who can use magic: he's using the Crystal. This follows in line with the RedEyesTakeWarning trope.
That gold/white eye color is the [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII Gestalt Mode]] for that game. In other words, we may see Bahamut as a Summon for the game.
[[WMG: Noctis's friend Prompto is going to die.]]
The game does have Shakespearean elements, and [[strike:the blonde haired guy]] Prompto gives off a "Mercutio vibe," IMO.
* Though it appears that the game is based more on ''{{Hamlet}}'' than ''RomeoAndJuliet''.
* It goes with the KillTheCutie tendency. Also, he's the one that everyone in the team seems most comfortable with. See how he messes around with Noctis, is ruffled by Gladiolus, and sits in the front seat with Ignis.
** Please note that he's the one Noctis is first seen interacting with before the explosion in the trailer.
* My guess is that this will send Noctis into a wild rampaging [[BigBrotherInstinct killing fit in revenge]]. And be an emotional turning point in the game.
* This might effectively move blondie's [[TheWoobie woobie]] status towards Noctis.
* If we're following the theme of this game taking from ''Hamlet'', then ''everyone else'' will die out of Noct's posse, Prompto the last to survive and witness the "sweet prince" sacrifice himself at the very end of the game.
** If anyone's going to be the Horatio-type character, it'd probably be Ignis. He seems to be Noctis's advisor and strategist.
[[WMG:Alternatively, Noctis and Stella were dead before the game started, or they will be dead over the course of the game.]]
Or worse: [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica they can be considered dead already]]. This game will mostly rely on {{Immortality}} and why they can "see the light", which is a [[{{Foreshadow}} critical plot spoiler]]: the Crystal that they are fighting over is dying, and they know it. I see very bad shades of ''Madoka Magica'' incoming. [[WhamEpisode Brace]] [[WhamLine yourself]].
[[WMG: This game will correct everything that everybody hated from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'' and everybody will still hate it.]]
Truly a wild and mass guess, because knowing SquareEnix, Versus XIII will invent a whole ''new'' set of things for everybody to hate... or will probably keep on doing everything that (some feel) XIII did wrong.
* ''Some''one's gonna hate ''some''thing about it. A bunch of people are going to love ''some''thing about it. {{Flame War}}s ''will'' erupt. This is easily the least wild guess on the page.
[[WMG: Stella will become TheOphelia]].
The game is based on ''{{Hamlet}}''. Come on. This may also be connected to the first guess - Stella gains a huge amount of power, WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity, and the player has to kill the poor sweet LoveInterest who's gone ethereally crazy and just doesn't understand that she's setting fires and killing people as she giggles and dances and tosses flowers here and there.
** I think she already shows traits of this in the trailer (though TrailersAlwaysLie and/or it's only this troper's interpretation) [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiIx9VJWSl8 at 2:00]] the way how she just stares at the sky (presumably staring at the light) it's creepy and she looks cute at the same time. That or the [[UncannyValley animation makes it look creepy]].
[[WMG: The game will be one massive KillEmAll.]]
They're quoting ''{{Hamlet}}'', of all things. What with that and the trailer wherein Noctis single-handedly slaughters what looks to be an entire army, what other option is there?
[[WMG: Noctis will be completely, utterly, unbelievably {{Adorkable}}.]]
Come on. Guy who acts aloof in public but is really shy and nervous and loves to laugh and hang around with his friends? Just ''typing'' that makes me wanna {{Squee}}.
[[WMG: XIII and Versus XIII are connected]]
Tenebrae looks similar to [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII Padra]], or rather Padra would resemble Tenebrae where it not destroyed in the War of Transgression. The developers have stated long ago that ''XIII'' and ''Versus'' will have no direct connection, although like the ''Ivalice Alliance'' this could simply mean the games are set on the same planet, hundreds of years apart from one another.
* And [[http://www.destructoid.com/final-fantasy-versus-xiii-scans-details-on-open-world-177368.phtml recent scans]] suggest that the alphabet of both games appear to be the same, which fuels the theory a bit.
* There have also been a few theories trying to link the Goddess Etro to [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX Necron]] (appearance, theme of death) and [[DissidiaFinalFantasy Cosmos]] (an AbortedArc from the trailer had the villains call Cosmos "The Goddess of Death", which is what the myths believe Etro to be).
[[WMG: The Fabula Nova Crystallis games will take a decade to develop.]]
When this series was announced as a "ten-year project", we all thought they meant they would be making games for ten years. Actually what they meant is that Agito and Versus ''might'' be out by 2016-2017.
[[WMG: ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVersusXIII'' is going to be Square Enix's ''VideoGame/DukeNukemForever'']]
[[StarWars Search your feelings]], [[TheEmpireStrikesBack you know it to be true]].
[[WMG: Noctis and his three friends will be the Warriors of Light.]]
Well, there are four of them. So yeah.
[[WMG: Prompto is Stella's little brother.]]
He seems like the youngest out of the four friends, and it appears like Noctis and Stella have a past too. Since Stella and him look pretty similar (or that could just be Square Enix designs), they might be siblings. This could also explain how Prompto got to know Noctis and the others, and why they treat him like a little brother.
[[WMG: This game will eventually become ''Final Fantasy XV''.]]
Let's face it, this game isn't coming out any time soon. And yet, Square-Enix has stated that they won't begin production on the inevitable ''XV'' until ''Versus XIII'' is finished. Most likely, after 2 or 3 more years, Square Enix will say "f*ck this Fabula Nova Crystalis sh*t" and just rename the game to ''Final Fantasy XV''.
UPDATE: With the recent re-titling of ''Agito XIII'' to ''Type-0'', it's possible that the latter half of this WMG is actually coming true. Who knows, perhaps the first half will as well...
** Alternatively, this game was meant to be FF15, but used Versus XIII as a fake working title. It's kind of like how some films are shipped out to theaters or auditions are given fake names.
[[WMG: One of Noctis' friends will pull a FaceHeelTurn.]]
Or at reveal himself as TheMole. Maybe that will lead Noctis cross his DespairEventHorizon and go berserk.
* Some people on the internet have guessed that Prompto is the White-Robed Man. Said man is blond, about the right height, and doesn't look exactly dissimilar. On the other hand, his hair is slightly longer than Prompto's and a lighter blond, and just about everybody's that little bit taller than Noctis. So...YMMV?
[[WMG: Noctis or Stella has a SuperpoweredEvilSide]]
I don't know, just feel like they would.
[[WMG: All of the main enemies and bosses will be people who have also "seen the light" of the death goddess]]
* Both Noctis and Stella have, most likely from having a near-death experience. It's not much of a stretch to assume that other characters have, and that they might want to use the powers they gained for evil.
[[WMG: Related to the above theories of a connection from the end of VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII to Versus XIII or that Hope is Noctis...]]
* When the characters in one world (that is, either the Versus world or the XIII world) die, they are reincarnated into the other world. So, hypothetically, the Hope=Noctis WMG could be plausible. If/when Hope dies in the Final Fantasy XIII world, he could be reincarnated into Noctis.
[[WMG: The armored DarkActionGirl fighting Noctis in the latest trailer ''might'' be Stella.]]
* It's possible. Stella will be an antagonist in the game, as Noctis and Stella will be forced to fight each other, but it hasn't been revealed ''how'' Noctis will discover Stella is his enemy. And the armored woman is blond, which can mean Stella or an entirely new character.
** {{Jossed}}. An interview with Nomura in [[http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/01/24/flying_get_d_style/ Dengeki]] magazine tells us that's not Stella, just an enemy.
[[WMG: The two old men at the end of the recent trailer are actually Noctis and the White Robed Man from previous trailers, in the future. The whole game is about their conflict, leading up to their final confrontation at the end of their lives.]]
* I mean, one's keeping his White Mage styled robe, and the other has Noctis' weapons ready. It's a tempting thought.
** {{Jossed}}, despite how interesting that sounds. A translation of King Caelum's lines in the 2011 trailer reveals him as (desiring to be) the last king and he is inevitably the one facing off against the white robed man in the trailer. Which leads me to ponder...
[[WMG: The confrontation of King Caelum and the White Robed Man will be a battle leading to a {{Heroic Sacrifice}}, and occurs early in the game]]
King Caelum wants to be the last king, he doesn't want Hamlet to succeed the throne, and the caption after his scene in the trailer read "An act of love by the last king". There was also a scene with (presumably) Noctis running through a forest to meet with the king and the perspective made the king out to be much taller, thus making it seem like it was a flashback to Noct's childhood. His death is fuel for Noctis, probably the primary reason for why he's fighting. At the end of the trailer he asks Ignis about exacting revenge tenfold, to which Ignis corrects him that they'll exact revenge ''a hundredfold''. It could also be a reason behind why he's trying so hard to fight, even when his friend's warn him that he is overestimating his abilities and acting rashly that his citizens might get hurt from all the fighting.
And if we're going to juice the life out of the Hamlet-based storyline theory, then the White Robed man would be Noctis' uncle seizing the crystal to rule over the kingdom.
[[WMG: Everyone is going to die or be effectively dead.]]
* It's not that hard to imagine this game ending on a DownerEnding of epic proportions. Somehow, every main character will die or otherwise rendered completely impotent as the game progresses. The game's said to have a theme of death, and Etro, the Goddess of Death, appears to be taking a major role in the story. Presumably, all of Noctis's friends will die first, probably making [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifices]] which may or may not be [[SenselessSacrifice senseless.]] The final boss will be a HopelessBossFight which ends with Noctis dying at the hands of a BrainwashedAndCrazy Stella, who goes comatose or dies after seeing him die. The villains won't necessarily win, but neither will the heroes.
[[WMG: This game will have themes that are the complete opposite of the themes of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII.'']]
* Noctis will not be like Squall; that's just a front he puts up out of shyness, and he'll never have Squall's determination and focus. Stella might be similar to Rinoa, even meeting the hero while wearing a white dress, but she won't get the DistressBall like Rinoa did, and maybe she'd rather be JustFriends, and instead of disliking her magical abilities (which may or may not be a case of CursedWithAwesome), she'll be pretty satisfied with them. Instead of FFVIII's unabashedly happy ending, Versus will end with a massive DownerEnding. Noctis won't end up with Stella or any other LoveInterest, and, at least in this universe, [[YouCantFightFate you can't fight fate.]] While Rinoa was most certainly ''not'' Ultimecia, Stella ''will'' be the BigBad, though not necessarily by time travel. Maybe Noctis will have Squall's AlwaysSaveTheGirl mentality, but he won't always save her. Basically, ''Versus'' will be the inverse of ''FinalFantasyVIII,'' just to screw with the fans. The only theme they'll share is the youth of the main characters causing huge problems. Except in the case of Versus, said main characters ''won't'' be able to fix things.
[[WMG: The Game's Ultimate conflict will be [[WhiteAndWhiteMorality White v. White]]]]
* What else could be more tragic than Ultimate Good fighting against Ultimate Good?
[[WMG: Prompto is a [[BlessedWithSuck l'Cie.]]]]
* He's said to be a 'recent' friend of Noctis', and the rumours are flying around he's some sort of fugitive. What if he's a fugitive because of his l'Cie status, and his focus is to kill Noctis; he befriends him to get close.
** The real reason why he's a fugitive is that he uses a shotgun, which are banned in Noctis's country.
[[WMG: There will be a SayMyName towards Stella]]
Come on, [[MemeticMutation you all know]] [[AStreetcarNamedDesire where this is going]].
** It will be Subverted. He'll actually end up sobbing over Stella's corpse, as he was [[HeroicBSOD forced to kill her as part of Bhuniverzi's will]], whispering "Stella" before the screen fades to black.
[[WMG: We will be able to change certain things over the course of the game]]
In a recent Famitsu, Nomura said that all of the cutscenes will be fully controllable, so the player never feels like they're not playing. This troper is guessing that the player will be able to change a few important events over the game, gaining the possibility of a new/different ending.
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[[WMG: The assault shown happens at the begining of the game, thus giving Noctis full access to his powers.]]
First, it's said to be in the blood; Noctris' father was shown lately to use the same arsenal in his last confrontation. 'Of course he was using it' referred to a Crystal, which gives the limited access to powers, but only death of someone's else fully activate it. That's why near-death experience unlocks it: the person in question was dying. It's hid from the people what Crystal really is.
Second, powers activate only by the cost of someone's else life, as mentioned at the trailer shown Stella and Noct talking about 'the light'. It's seen at the sky that night, and Noct says 'goodbye', possibly knowing what his father was up to. Shortly after that the assault begun. It's a first chapter.
More of it, there is this dream-like sequence in the wood at the morning, and because the camera is set low, it's most possibly Noct as a child. His father seems younger there, obviously. He is already dead by that time, it's an retrospection sent to haunt the user of powers bound.
In short: if you want to use the powers, keep killing. Make death stick to you. That's what allows you to use it without Crystal(which acts as a passive storage, people die every day). So yeah, Nice Job Noct...Stella wants to stop Noct when she realized the source of her powers, and it drives her possibly insane (supporting The Ophelia theory) or going Break The Cutie scenerio and join him.
The 'last act of love' is the twist in all this power deal- Crystal itself is fueled by deaths, and the last king, concerned by the well-being of his country and sanity of his child, decides to break the circle and cut Noct off the Crystal, destroing it in the process. That's why it's so bloody, killing is the fuel for magic and every power. It fits also 'fantasy based on reality' theme: power is usually earned by sacrificing something else, and through pain and suffering of people (tyrany).
[[WMG: The game will become it's own series]]
With how much is being put into this game, it's baffling that this is a spin-off. I think sometime during developement, it would either:
* '''A''': Become ''FinalFantasyXV'' like the above guess said.
* '''B''': Given an entirely new name and become its own series.
It does seem strange that the spin-off takes longer to develop than the main series..
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[[WMG: All the main cast of FFXIII will be present in some sense or other.]]
Maybe they'll be mentioned offhandedly, like, a legendary woman that challenged the demigods/Fal'Cie with her friends. Or they'll actually be present on-screen, not looking exactly like themselves, but close nonetheless. Like a cameo. For instance maybe there's a man that works in Noctis' palace that is immensely tall and well-built, who's hair is blond and he keeps it wrapped up somehow. The -XII games share the same universe after all, maybe we'll get some sort of ''TsubasaReservoirChronicles'' situation where the same people are on every world but look different.
[[WMG: The game will have a pretty sad ending]]
None of the titles in the Fabula Nova Crystallis compilation have a truly happy ending (not counting alternate endings). And as so often stated, FFvXIII is the darkest ''Final Fantasy'' title yet, so while dark is not always equals to bad ending, it does sometimes connect.
[[WMG: The men in white]]
* The Elder One- King Caelum's brother. With all the Shakespearian connections, they'll probably go the ''{{Hamlet}}'' route and have him murder the King (and frame Noctis for it so he won't get the throne). In the trailer, King Caelum told somebody he was not fit to be king, but WordOfGod implied that it wasn't Noctis he was talking to.
* The Younger One- Either the elder's son or his clone. Possible [[TheDragon dragon]].
[[WMG: Possible voice actors]]
* Noctis- Either YuriLowenthall, JohnnyYongBosch, AarronDismuke, or Vincent Martella.
* Ignis- Either TroyBaker, TravisWillingham, or JMichaelTatum.
* Prompto- VicMignogna.
* Gladious- Creator/CrispinFreeman.
* Stella- Either LauraBailey, CaitlynGlass, or StephanieSheh.
** I predict Prompto will be played by Yuri, Stella by Laura, and Noctis by either Troy or Aaron(because I think Vincent istoo young).
** I for one predict TaraStrong to have a role somewhere.
[[WMG: Why the game is taking so long]]
* internal disagrements on what will be in the game
* hiding the developement of another game with the developement of Versus
** Remake of FF7 maybe. Probably the only thing that will cause people to forgive them for the wait.
* Square Enix's embarrassing no-show of any titles at the 2013 Playstation 4 reveal, other than the express command that fans "please wait and be excited," combined with some off-site evidence, indicates that development has moved to that console and the title has been renamed ''FinalFantasyXV.''
[[WMG: The line of kings Noctis belongs to were, in fact, l'Cie]]
Including Noctis, himself, and the rulers of those nations whose crystals were destroyed at the time of the war. Each had a Focus and a brand much like any l’Cie, only in ''Versus XIII''’s world, a Focus is hereditary and passed down from heir-to-heir, and brings with it great power and authority.
[[WMG: The world of ''Final Fantasy Versus XIII'' is trapped in worldwide crystal stasis]]
One of several major themes that is said to be relevant to the game’s plot is “Sleep,” and as crystal stasis in ''Final Fantasy XIII'' was implied to be akin to eternal slumber, the theme of “Sleep” in ''Versus XIII'' may relate to some variation of crystal stasis.
The game is stated to take place at the “clearing” of a war between nations that revolved around the crystals – think a nuclear exchange – resulting in the crystals’ destruction. What if the end of the crystals brought about a kind of crystal stasis that enveloped the entire world? The game has post-apocalyptic overtones that lend its locales an eerie sense of desolation; crippled freeways, crooked power-lines running parallel to empty stretches of fractured road – one wonders if the world really ''did'' survive the war at all.
Perhaps the events of the game are merely the product of an elaborate recreation of the real world, ala ''Final Fantasy X''’s Dream Zanarkand, conjured by the dreams of those trapped within worldwide crystal stasis.
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