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* Confirmed, although Nero and Tamamo still become main supporting characters.


[[WMG: The Ruler will be a new Character.]]

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[[WMG: The Ruler will be a new Character.character.]]



* Same poster countering thier own points, Shirou would have several other characters to interact with (Emiya would be entertaining for a few seconds), and without a Greater Grail, his plan is infeasible anyways, Martha can be wearing regular clothes and still be using fisticuffs, and Since SE.RA.PH has even less to do with the Grail than Caldea's summoning, It being able to ignore the "Rulers are Saints" just as easily allowing Sherlock, ss noted above.

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* Same poster countering thier their own points, Shirou would have several other characters to interact with (Emiya would be entertaining for a few seconds), and without a Greater Grail, his plan is infeasible anyways, Martha can be wearing regular clothes and still be using fisticuffs, and Since since SE.RA.PH has even less to do with the Grail than Caldea's Chaldea's summoning, It it being able to ignore the "Rulers are Saints" just as easily allowing Sherlock, ss as noted above.


[[https://gematsu.com/2018/01/fate-extella-link-details-francis-drake-astolfo-scathach-japanese-limited-edition-announced It has been recently stated]] that there are six characters that are still to be announced for the playable roster (Two Archers, One Caster, Two Berserkers, and One Ruler). Assuming that any of these are previously established servants, let's make some guesses as to who these might be.

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[[https://gematsu.com/2018/01/fate-extella-link-details-francis-drake-astolfo-scathach-japanese-limited-edition-announced It has been recently stated]] that there are six characters that are still to be announced for the playable roster (Two (two Archers, One one Caster, Two two Berserkers, and One one Ruler). Assuming that any of these are previously established previously-established servants, let's make some guesses as to who these might be.


* Confirmed. The new ruler is Karl der Große.

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* Confirmed. The new ruler Ruler is Karl der Große.Große, and he seems to be an alternate version of Charlemagne, since Karl der Große is the German name for Charlemagne.



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** The ruler is confirmed to be [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NyF2aUoixw new character Karl der Große]]. The rest are jossed.



* Same poster countering thier own points, Shirou would have several other characters to interact with (Emiya would be entertaining for a few seconds), and without a Greater Grail, his plan is infeasible anyways, Martha can be wearing regular clothes and still be using fisticuffs, and Since SE.RA.PH has even less to do with the Grail than Caldea's summoning, It being able to ignore the "Rulers are Saints" just as easily allowing Sherlock, ss noted above.

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* Same poster countering thier own points, Shirou would have several other characters to interact with (Emiya would be entertaining for a few seconds), and without a Greater Grail, his plan is infeasible anyways, Martha can be wearing regular clothes and still be using fisticuffs, and Since SE.RA.PH has even less to do with the Grail than Caldea's summoning, It being able to ignore the "Rulers are Saints" just as easily allowing Sherlock, ss noted above.above.
* Confirmed. The new ruler is Karl der Große.


*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iL6i2i-E7g Confirmed]]

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*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iL6i2i-E7g Confirmed]]Confirmed.]]



*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=S6ZmZfcUJ_o Confirmed]]

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*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=S6ZmZfcUJ_o Confirmed]]Confirmed.]]



*** Confirmed. The rest are jossed.

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*** Confirmed. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ9dsa6jj60 Confirmed.]] The rest are jossed.



*** Confirmed.

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*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOeyIkbuWWw Confirmed.]]



*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k42q7O1xVnM Confirmed]]

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*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k42q7O1xVnM Confirmed]]Confirmed.]]


** Confirmed to be [[VideoGame/FateExtra Robin Hood]] and [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Arjuna]]

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** Confirmed to be [[VideoGame/FateExtra Robin Hood]] and Hood]]
*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iL6i2i-E7g Confirmed]]
** [[Anime/FatePrototype Arash]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Chiron]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Atalanta]]
** [[Literature/FateStrangeFake Alcides]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Nobunaga Oda]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Artemis & Orion]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Nikola Tesla]]
**
[[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Arjuna]]
*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=S6ZmZfcUJ_o Confirmed]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Billy the Kid]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Sir Tristan]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder James Moriarty]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Tomoe Gozen]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha David]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Tawara Touta]]




** Confirmed to be [[LightNovel/FateZero Gilles de Rais]]

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** Confirmed to be [[VideoGame/FateExtra Nursery Rhyme]]
** [[VideoGame/FateExtra Hans Christian Andersen]]
** [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Medea]]
**
[[LightNovel/FateZero Gilles de Rais]]
*** Confirmed. The rest are jossed.
** [[Anime/FatePrototype Paracelsus von Hohenheim]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Avicebron]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha William Shakespeare]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Semiramis]] (as a full Caster)
** [[Literature/FateStrangeFake Alexandre Dumas]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Helena Blavatsky]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Thomas Alva Edison]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Geronimo]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Xuanzang Sanzang]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Nitocris]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Leonardo da Vinci]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Merlin]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Circe]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Queen of Sheba]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Marie Antoinette]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Charles Babbage]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Mephistopheles]]



** Confirmed to be [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Darius III]] and [[LightNovel/FateZero Lancelot]]

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** Confirmed to be [[VideoGame/FateExtra Li Shuwen]]
** [[VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} Arcueid Brunestud]]
** [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Heracles]]
** [[LightNovel/FateZero The Black Knight]]
*** Confirmed.
** [[Anime/FatePrototype Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Vlad III]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Frankenstein]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Jack the Ripper]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Sakata Kintoki]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Asterios]]
**
[[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Darius III]] and [[LightNovel/FateZero Lancelot]]
III]]
*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k42q7O1xVnM Confirmed]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Kiyohime]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Beowulf]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Florence Nightingale]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Ibaraki-douji]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Penthesilea]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Paul Bunyan]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Caligula]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Eric Bloodaxe]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Hijikata Toshizo]]
** [[VideoGame/FateExtra Tamamo Cat]]


** [[VideoGame/FateExtra Nursery Rhyme]]
** [[VideoGame/FateExtra Hans Christian Andersen]]
** [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Medea]]
** [[LightNovel/FateZero Gilles de Rais]]
** [[Anime/FatePrototype Paracelsus von Hohenheim]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Avicebron]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha William Shakespeare]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Semiramis]] (as a full Caster)
** [[Literature/FateStrangeFake Alexandre Dumas]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Helena Blavatsky]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Thomas Alva Edison]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Geronimo]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Xuanzang Sanzang]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Nitocris]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Leonardo da Vinci]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Merlin]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Circe]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Queen of Sheba]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Marie Antoinette]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Charles Babbage]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Mephistopheles]]

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** [[VideoGame/FateExtra Nursery Rhyme]]
** [[VideoGame/FateExtra Hans Christian Andersen]]
** [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Medea]]
**
Confirmed to be [[LightNovel/FateZero Gilles de Rais]]
** [[Anime/FatePrototype Paracelsus von Hohenheim]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Avicebron]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha William Shakespeare]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Semiramis]] (as a full Caster)
** [[Literature/FateStrangeFake Alexandre Dumas]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Helena Blavatsky]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Thomas Alva Edison]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Geronimo]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Xuanzang Sanzang]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Nitocris]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Leonardo da Vinci]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Merlin]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Circe]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Queen of Sheba]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Marie Antoinette]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Charles Babbage]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Mephistopheles]]



** [[VideoGame/FateExtra Li Shuwen]]
** [[VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} Arcueid Brunestud]]
** [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Heracles]]
** [[LightNovel/FateZero The Black Knight]]
** [[Anime/FatePrototype Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Vlad III]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Frankenstein]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Jack the Ripper]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Sakata Kintoki]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Asterios]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Darius III]]
*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k42q7O1xVnM Confirmed]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Kiyohime]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Beowulf]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Florence Nightingale]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Ibaraki-douji]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Penthesilea]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Paul Bunyan]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Caligula]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Eric Bloodaxe]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Hijikata Toshizo]]
** [[VideoGame/FateExtra Tamamo Cat]]

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** [[VideoGame/FateExtra Li Shuwen]]
** [[VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} Arcueid Brunestud]]
** [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Heracles]]
** [[LightNovel/FateZero The Black Knight]]
** [[Anime/FatePrototype Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Vlad III]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Frankenstein]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Jack the Ripper]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Sakata Kintoki]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Asterios]]
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Confirmed to be [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Darius III]]
*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k42q7O1xVnM Confirmed]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Kiyohime]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Beowulf]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Florence Nightingale]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Ibaraki-douji]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Penthesilea]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Paul Bunyan]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Caligula]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Eric Bloodaxe]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Hijikata Toshizo]]
** [[VideoGame/FateExtra Tamamo Cat]]
III]] and [[LightNovel/FateZero Lancelot]]

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** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Semiramis]] (as a full Caster)


** [[VideoGame/FateExtra Robin Hood]]
*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iL6i2i-E7g Confirmed]]
** [[Anime/FatePrototype Arash]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Chiron]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Atalanta]]
** [[Literature/FateStrangeFake Alcides]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Nobunaga Oda]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Artemis & Orion]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Nikola Tesla]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Arjuna]]
*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=S6ZmZfcUJ_o Confirmed]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Billy the Kid]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Sir Tristan]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder James Moriarty]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Tomoe Gozen]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha David]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Tawara Touta]]

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** Confirmed to be [[VideoGame/FateExtra Robin Hood]]
*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iL6i2i-E7g Confirmed]]
** [[Anime/FatePrototype Arash]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Chiron]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Atalanta]]
** [[Literature/FateStrangeFake Alcides]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Nobunaga Oda]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Artemis & Orion]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Nikola Tesla]]
**
Hood]] and [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Arjuna]]
*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=S6ZmZfcUJ_o Confirmed]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Billy the Kid]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Sir Tristan]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder James Moriarty]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Tomoe Gozen]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha David]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Tawara Touta]]


** Confirmed to be [[VideoGame/FateExtra Robin Hood]] and [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Arjuna]]

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** Confirmed to be [[VideoGame/FateExtra Robin Hood]] and Hood]]
*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iL6i2i-E7g Confirmed]]
** [[Anime/FatePrototype Arash]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Chiron]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Atalanta]]
** [[Literature/FateStrangeFake Alcides]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Nobunaga Oda]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Artemis & Orion]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Nikola Tesla]]
**
[[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Arjuna]]
*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=S6ZmZfcUJ_o Confirmed]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Billy the Kid]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Sir Tristan]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder James Moriarty]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Tomoe Gozen]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha David]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Tawara Touta]]


** [[VideoGame/FateExtra Robin Hood]]
*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iL6i2i-E7g Confirmed]]
** [[Anime/FatePrototype Arash]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Chiron]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Atalanta]]
** [[Literature/FateStrangeFake Alcides]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Nobunaga Oda]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Artemis & Orion]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Nikola Tesla]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Arjuna]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Billy the Kid]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Sir Tristan]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder James Moriarty]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Tomoe Gozen]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha David]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Tawara Touta]]

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** Confirmed to be [[VideoGame/FateExtra Robin Hood]]
*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iL6i2i-E7g Confirmed]]
** [[Anime/FatePrototype Arash]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Chiron]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha Atalanta]]
** [[Literature/FateStrangeFake Alcides]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Nobunaga Oda]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Artemis & Orion]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Nikola Tesla]]
**
Hood]] and [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Arjuna]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Billy the Kid]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Sir Tristan]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder James Moriarty]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Tomoe Gozen]]
** [[LightNovel/FateApocrypha David]]
** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Tawara Touta]]


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*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k42q7O1xVnM Confirmed]]

Added DiffLines:

*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iL6i2i-E7g Confirmed]]


* Same poster countering thier own points, Shirou would have several other characters to interact with (Emiya would be entertaining for a few seconds), and without a Greater Grail, his plan is infeasible anyways, Martha can be wearing regular clothes and still be using fisticuffs, and Since SE.RA.PH has even less to do with the Grail than Caldea's summoning, It being able to ignore the "Rulers are Saints" just as easily.

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* Same poster countering thier own points, Shirou would have several other characters to interact with (Emiya would be entertaining for a few seconds), and without a Greater Grail, his plan is infeasible anyways, Martha can be wearing regular clothes and still be using fisticuffs, and Since SE.RA.PH has even less to do with the Grail than Caldea's summoning, It being able to ignore the "Rulers are Saints" just as easily.easily allowing Sherlock, ss noted above.


** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Saint Martha]]

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** [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Saint Martha]]Martha]]

[[WMG: The Ruler will be a new Character.]]
Of the above, Shirou is somewhat possible, though it might lead to a retread of interactions between him and Jeanne, Martha is unlikely due to being a swimsuit alternate, and while SE.RA.PH could probably cheat like Chaldea, technically Rulers are supposed to be Saints.
*Same poster countering thier own points, Shirou would have several other characters to interact with (Emiya would be entertaining for a few seconds), and without a Greater Grail, his plan is infeasible anyways, Martha can be wearing regular clothes and still be using fisticuffs, and Since SE.RA.PH has even less to do with the Grail than Caldea's summoning, It being able to ignore the "Rulers are Saints" just as easily.

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