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* Jossed. [[spoiler: Alice would've fount out and exposed her. Gabi was killed when the Joker rammed a school bus into her car.]]

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* Jossed. [[spoiler: Alice would've fount found out and exposed her. Gabi was killed when the Joker rammed a school bus into her car.]]
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[[spoiler: Catherine wanted to kill Jacob's wife, because she was in love with Jacob and thinks his wife "stole" him from Catherine. So she made sure Jacob's wife has gotten a poorly-designed car and hired the Joker to kill her. But she probably didn't count on her taking her daughters. She found out Beth survived but had to plant false evidence of her death to prevent anyone from learning of her scheme. As for Batman, he's been trying to discover the truth about what happened that day, and suspects that the Joker is connected. In his mission to apprehend the Joker to get him to talk, [[ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily his partner, Jason Todd, got killed as a result]]. This has taken a toll on Batman, and led him to leave Gotham.]]

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[[spoiler: Catherine wanted to kill Jacob's wife, because she was in love with Jacob and thinks his wife "stole" him from Catherine. So she made sure Jacob's wife has had gotten a poorly-designed car and hired the Joker to kill her. But she probably didn't count on her taking her daughters. She found out Beth survived but had to plant false evidence of her death to prevent anyone from learning of her scheme. As for Batman, he's been trying to discover the truth about what happened that day, and suspects that the Joker is connected. In his mission to apprehend the Joker to get him to talk, [[ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily his partner, Jason Todd, got killed as a result]]. This has taken a toll on Batman, and led him to leave Gotham.]]
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* Jossed. [[spoiler: Alice would've fount out and exposed her.]]

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* Jossed. [[spoiler: Alice would've fount out and exposed her. Gabi was killed when the Joker rammed a school bus into her car.]]
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* Jossed on multiple levels. [[spoiler: (1) "Tell Me the Truth" reveals Catherine only met the Kanes after the car accident when she joined the city's search for Gabi and Beth. (2) "Who Are You" explains Catherine planting fake evidence was a misguided attempt to give Jacob and Kate closure, she had no idea Beth was alive. She also already had a mercenary on her payroll and no connection to the Joker (who refuses mercenary work with rare exceptions). (3) Catherine owns a defense contracting company and doesn't specialize in commercial cars. (4) If Alice knew this, she would've revealed it. (5) "We're All Mad Here" in season 3 confirms Robin was killed in an independent incident by Joker and Kiki Roulette.]]

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* Jossed on multiple levels. [[spoiler: (1) "Tell Me the Truth" reveals Catherine only met the Kanes after the car accident when she joined the city's search for Gabi and Beth. (2) "Who Are You" explains Catherine planting fake evidence was a misguided attempt to give Jacob and Kate closure, she had no idea Beth was alive. She also already had a mercenary on her payroll and no connection to the Joker (who refuses mercenary work with rare exceptions). (3) Catherine owns a defense contracting company and doesn't specialize in commercial cars. (4) If Alice knew this, she would've revealed it. (5) "Off With Her Head" reveals Gabi was driving home from her daughters' Bat Mitzvah, of course Kate and Beth would likely be with her. (6) "We're All Mad Here" in season 3 confirms Robin was killed in an independent incident by Joker and Kiki Roulette.]]

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* Kite Man (Hell yeah)

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* Kite Man (Hell (Hell, yeah)



** Slightly confirmed. Duela Dent appears but uses a different alias.



* Jossed on multiple levels. [[spoiler: (1)"Tell Me the Truth" reveals Catherine only met the Kanes after the car accident when she joined the city's search for Gabi and Beth. (2)"Who Are You" explains Catherine planting fake evidence was a misguided attempt to give Jacob and Kate closure, she had no idea Beth was alive. She also already had a mercenary on her payroll and no connection to the Joker (who refuses mercenary work with rare exceptions). (3)Catherine owns a defense contracting company and doesn't specialize in commercial cars. (4) If Alice knew this, she would've revealed it. (5)"We're All Mad Here" in season 3 confirms Robin was killed in an independent incident by Joker and Kiki Roulette.]]

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* Jossed on multiple levels. [[spoiler: (1)"Tell (1) "Tell Me the Truth" reveals Catherine only met the Kanes after the car accident when she joined the city's search for Gabi and Beth. (2)"Who (2) "Who Are You" explains Catherine planting fake evidence was a misguided attempt to give Jacob and Kate closure, she had no idea Beth was alive. She also already had a mercenary on her payroll and no connection to the Joker (who refuses mercenary work with rare exceptions). (3)Catherine (3) Catherine owns a defense contracting company and doesn't specialize in commercial cars. (4) If Alice knew this, she would've revealed it. (5)"We're (5) "We're All Mad Here" in season 3 confirms Robin was killed in an independent incident by Joker and Kiki Roulette.]]



* Jossed. [[spoiler: Jacob himself shuts down Mary's clinic but she's able to find a way to legalize it without reporting her patients. He disbands Crows Security for good after some of his own employees try to kill him to cover up their near-fatal racially-motivated shooting of Luke.]]

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* Jossed. [[spoiler: Jacob returns to Crows Security despite the bad publicity. He himself shuts down Mary's clinic but she's able to find a way to legalize it without reporting her patients. He disbands Crows Security for good after some of his own employees try to kill him to cover up their near-fatal racially-motivated shooting of Luke.patients.]]



* Jossed, but [[spoiler: because Kate double-crossed her in "Through the Looking Glass",]] Alice probably ''does'' want to. [[spoiler: That, and spill that Kate killed Cartright and Jacob buried the body.]]

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* Jossed, but [[spoiler: because Kate double-crossed her in "Through the Looking Glass",]] Alice probably ''does'' want to. [[spoiler: That, and spill that Kate killed Cartright Cartwright and Jacob buried the body.]]



** Also Ryan's her own character.

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** Also Also, Ryan's her own character.



* Jossed, as it's unlikely since The Crows have their role in Ryan's story about why she went to jail. Plus Sophie and Kate's father are using Crows resources to find an MIA Kate.
* Actually confirmed, [[spoiler: Jacob disbands the Crows after they profile and nearly kill Luke. Jacob helps Alice try to restore Kate's memories before being arrested. Sophie joins the team in season 3.]]

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* Jossed, as it's unlikely since The Crows have their role in Ryan's story about why she went to jail. Plus Plus, Sophie and Kate's father are using Crows resources to find an MIA Kate.
* Actually confirmed, [[spoiler: Jacob disbands the Crows after they profile and nearly kill Luke.Luke, then try to kill him to cover it up. Jacob helps Alice try to restore Kate's memories before being arrested. Sophie joins the team in season 3.]]



* Jossed.

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* Jossed.
Jossed. Ryan does have a personal hatred for Alice [[spoiler: and was once willing to let her be killed.]]



* Jossed. [[spoiler: Ryan ends up with Sophie, Kate's former love interest.]]

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* Jossed. Ryan's love interests have nothing do to with Bruce. [[spoiler: Ryan She ultimately ends up with Sophie, Kate's former love interest.]]



There will be a twist. Robin Givens will not only play [[spoiler: Ryan's birth mother]], but the super villain as well.

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There will be a twist. Robin Givens Creator/RobinGivens will not only play [[spoiler: Ryan's birth mother]], but the super villain as well.



* Jossed. [[spoiler: Ryan's birth mother]] is Jada Jet, played by Creator/RobinGivens.

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* Jossed. Robin Givens portrays Jada Jet, who is [[spoiler: Ryan's birth mother]] mother]], while Bridget Regan is Jada Jet, played by Creator/RobinGivens.
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* Jossed. Most don't show up at all, and those who do are played by different actors.



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Jossed. Kate's training was told through flashbacks.

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Jossed. Only a small sliver of Kate's training was told through flashbacks.
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* Jossed. He was written out after season 2.



* Jossed it's confirmed by his daughter he's still alive living back in England. No word on how he feels about Bruce being MIA for all of these years.

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* Jossed Jossed, it's confirmed in season 3 by his daughter he's still alive living back in England. No word on how he feels about Bruce being MIA for all of these years.



[[spoiler: Catherine wanted to kill Jacob's wife, because she was in love with Jacob and thinks his wife "stole" him from Catherine. So she made sure Jacob's wife has gotten a poorly-designed car and hired the Joker to kill her. But she probably didn't count on her taking her daughters. She found out Beth survived but had to plant false evidence of her death to prevent anyone from learning of her scheme. As for Batman, he's been trying to discover the truth about what happened that day, and suspect that the Joker is connected. In his mission to apprehend the Joker to get him to talk, [[ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily his partner, Jason Todd, got killed as a result]]. This has taken a toll on Batman, and led him to leave Gotham.]]

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[[spoiler: Catherine wanted to kill Jacob's wife, because she was in love with Jacob and thinks his wife "stole" him from Catherine. So she made sure Jacob's wife has gotten a poorly-designed car and hired the Joker to kill her. But she probably didn't count on her taking her daughters. She found out Beth survived but had to plant false evidence of her death to prevent anyone from learning of her scheme. As for Batman, he's been trying to discover the truth about what happened that day, and suspect suspects that the Joker is connected. In his mission to apprehend the Joker to get him to talk, [[ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily his partner, Jason Todd, got killed as a result]]. This has taken a toll on Batman, and led him to leave Gotham.]]
* Jossed on multiple levels. [[spoiler: (1)"Tell Me the Truth" reveals Catherine only met the Kanes after the car accident when she joined the city's search for Gabi and Beth. (2)"Who Are You" explains Catherine planting fake evidence was a misguided attempt to give Jacob and Kate closure, she had no idea Beth was alive. She also already had a mercenary on her payroll and no connection to the Joker (who refuses mercenary work with rare exceptions). (3)Catherine owns a defense contracting company and doesn't specialize in commercial cars. (4) If Alice knew this, she would've revealed it. (5)"We're All Mad Here" in season 3 confirms Robin was killed in an independent incident by Joker and Kiki Roulette.]]



* The Joker. It'd be an easy parallel to him and Batman, with Alice and Batwoman being each other's greatest foes. Also, Joker has dealt with [[ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily face removal]] before/

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* The Joker. It'd be an easy parallel to him and Batman, with Alice and Batwoman being each other's greatest foes. Also, Joker has dealt with [[ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily face removal]] before/before.




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** Partially jossed. [[spoiler: Season 2 confirms Alice was trained by Safiyah Sohail in the Many Arms of Death after escaping August.]]




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* Partially jossed. [[spoiler: He finds the real killer, but doesn't become Batwing until 2 seasons later.]]



* Jossed. [[spoiler: Cartwright is alive, using flesh masks to hide his true identity. He later is killed off for real by Kate after learning he took her mother's head with an unconscious to make an face mask for his own mother]]

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* Jossed. [[spoiler: Cartwright is alive, using flesh masks to hide his true identity. He later is killed off for real by Kate after learning he took her mother's severed head with an unconscious to make an a face mask for his own mother]]
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* Jossed. [[spoiler: Alice kills Mouse for refusing to continue supporting her plans. In season 3, she starts becoming more selfless by looking after Poison Ivy!Mary and making figurative sacrifices before going on a RedemptionQuest.]]



* [[spoiler: Probably jossed, as he decided they should separate and he never spilled the beans to his former mother in law.]]

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* [[spoiler: Probably jossed, as he decided they should separate and he never spilled the beans to his former mother in law.mother-in-law.]]




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Jossed. Kate's training was told through flashbacks.




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* Jossed. [[spoiler: Alice would've fount out and exposed her.]]




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* Partially confirmed. [[spoiler: He appears in Luke's vision during his near-death experience.]]



* Jossed for the villain part as she joins the Bat family and becomes an team member after telling Kate she knows about her being Batwoman.

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* Jossed for the villain part as she joins the Bat family and becomes an a team member after telling Kate she knows about her being Batwoman.




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* Jossed. [[spoiler: Jacob himself shuts down Mary's clinic but she's able to find a way to legalize it without reporting her patients. He disbands Crows Security for good after some of his own employees try to kill him to cover up their near-fatal racially-motivated shooting of Luke.]]






Jossed: However this Beth does come from an simliar earth where she was saved from the Car Crash however the key difference between her birth earth and Earth 99 is that Kate died circa 2014 while being Batwoman.


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Jossed: However However, this Beth does come from an simliar earth a similar Earth where she was saved from the Car Crash car crash, however the key difference between her birth earth and Earth 99 Earth-99 is that Kate died circa 2014 while being Batwoman.

Batwoman.



* Jossed Kate kills him after learning he kept their mother's head in a freezer with the intention to skin off her face to give to his own mother. Even though Alice had an hand in his death, by leading Kate to him she didn't have the pleasure of killing him off for real this time around unlike the time she thought she did when escaping him.

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* Jossed Jossed. [[spoiler: Kate kills him after learning he kept their mother's head in a freezer with the intention to skin off her face to give to his own mother. Even though Alice had an a hand in his death, by leading Kate to him she didn't have the pleasure of killing him off for real this time around around, unlike the time she thought she did when escaping him.
him.]]



* Jossed Mouse is killed off and Tommy just like his comic book counterpart becomes Hush.

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* Jossed Jossed, Mouse is killed off and Tommy just like his comic book counterpart becomes Hush.




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* Jossed. He's confirmed to be dead and Jacob and Kate have to dispose of his body, which haunts Kate for a while.



* Jossed his cover was blown since he didn't answer Julia's question correctly.

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* Jossed his Jossed. His cover was blown since he didn't answer Julia's question correctly.



* Jossed the crossover was canceled and Jacob nows the first Batwoman was Kate.

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* Jossed the Jossed. The crossover was canceled and Jacob nows knows the first Batwoman was Kate.



** Jossed, Hush is exposed before he could caused real damage.

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** * Jossed, Hush is exposed before he could caused cause real damage.




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* Actually confirmed, [[spoiler: Jacob disbands the Crows after they profile and nearly kill Luke. Jacob helps Alice try to restore Kate's memories before being arrested. Sophie joins the team in season 3.]]




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* Confirmed, Beth is focused on reuniting with Ocean and later, restoring Kate's memories. However, Ryan has a vendetta against Alice because her gang killed Ryan's adoptive mother.



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* Jossed: He never met Ryan out of the suit.

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* Jossed: He never met Ryan out of the suit.
suit. They actually end up working together a couple times.



[[WMG: Alice's EvilPlan is to set up Jacob to kill his own daughter as Batwoman ]]

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[[WMG: Alice's EvilPlan is to set up Jacob to kill his own daughter as Batwoman ]]Batwoman]]




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* Jossed. [[spoiler: Ryan ends up with Sophie, Kate's former love interest.]]







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* Still unknown about her dad, but [[spoiler:it's confirmed that her birth mother is still alive and heavily implied by Alice to be an criminal.]]

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* Still unknown about her dad, but [[spoiler:it's confirmed that her birth mother is still alive and heavily implied by Alice to be an a criminal.]]



** This theory holds creditability as he was involved in Beth's disappearance since he was the one who ram Gabi's car off the edge of the bridge. Since the Kane women getting kidnapped was implied an planned event in Kate and Beth's origin stories in the comic however in both instances Kate was the only one to have escaped unharmed while Gabi was killed instantly and Beth was taken by the bad guys who made the good guys thought that she was also killed. Not to hard make an Adaption Change to Arrowverse's Beth and Kate's origin stories by making the Joker be ItWasWithYouAllAlong culprit espeiscally if he knew Batman's real identity and who his local relatives were. However he didn't planned on it going wrong with only Kate escaping and Beth being held capture by August Catwright assuming he wasn't The Joker's secret partner in crime (Given that Season 1 revealed August was an associate of Jonathan Crane aka Scarecrow). Although there's one unanswered question since that painting was revealed to be a map of Coryana before he ruined it by by painting Human Blood all over it which then got established as piece of his 'artwork' when in actually the painter is implied to be Safiyah. So if he even has a direct connection to the villains the show has showcased remains ambiguous because nothing has been confirmed as of yet, but one is for certain he has been ConnectedAllAlong to the story.

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** This theory holds creditability as he was involved in Beth's disappearance since he was the one who ram Gabi's car off the edge of the bridge. Since the Kane women getting kidnapped was implied an planned event in Kate and Beth's origin stories in the comic however in both instances Kate was the only one to have escaped unharmed while Gabi was killed instantly and Beth was taken by the bad guys who made the good guys thought that she was also killed. Not to hard make an Adaption Change to Arrowverse's Beth and Kate's origin stories by making the Joker be ItWasWithYouAllAlong culprit espeiscally especially if he knew Batman's real identity and who his local relatives were. However he didn't planned on it going wrong with only Kate escaping and Beth being held capture by August Catwright assuming he wasn't The Joker's secret partner in crime (Given that Season 1 revealed August was an associate of Jonathan Crane aka Scarecrow). Although there's one unanswered question since that painting was revealed to be a map of Coryana before he ruined it by by painting Human Blood all over it which then got established as piece of his 'artwork' when in actually the painter is implied to be Safiyah. So if he even has a direct connection to the villains the show has showcased remains ambiguous because nothing has been confirmed as of yet, but one is for certain he has been ConnectedAllAlong to the story.




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* [[spoiler: It's confirmed he actually shot down the plane.]]




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* Jossed. [[spoiler: Ryan's birth mother]] is Jada Jet, played by Creator/RobinGivens.



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Instead, the role will be given to Holly Robinson or Eiko Hasigawa. Kate could have FoeYay with them, which could lead to jokes about how she's really getting a hang of taking up Batman's role in the city, and, more seriously, a love interest other than the married Sophie.

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Instead, the role will be given to Holly Robinson or Eiko Hasigawa. Kate could have FoeYay LesYay with them, which could lead to jokes about how she's really getting a hang of taking up Batman's role in the city, and, more seriously, a love interest other than the married Sophie.

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That offhand comment about how Bruce would comment on her biological mother's looks is foreshadowing they had a relationship and they will have it that Ryan is the legitimate heir to the Wayne company.

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That offhand comment about how Bruce would comment on her biological mother's looks is foreshadowing they had a relationship and they will have it that Ryan is the legitimate heir to the Wayne company.company.

Alternatively...

[[WMG: Ryan's father is Lucius Fox]]
Jada mentions how Bruce once poached an employee from her. Could this former employee possibly be Lucius Fox, who once worked for Jeturian Industries, and with whom she once had an affair, resulting in Ryan?
Age-wise, it makes more sense for Ryan to be Lucius' daughter than Bruce's. Moreover, it would lead to some significant drama between Luke and Ryan, whose whole relationship would be redefined by them being half-siblings. It would also impact Luke's memory of his father who would now be revealed to have cheated on his mother.
The fact that a Lucius Fox AI is now part of the show hints at Lucius Fox posthumously playing a significant role this season. Moreover, Ryan being Lucius' daughter would make her the show's version of Jace Fox, who's the second Batman in the comics.

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[[WMG: Bruce Wayne will be Ryan's father]]
That offhand comment about how Bruce would comment on her biological mother's looks is foreshadowing they had a relationship and they will have it that Ryan is the legitimate heir to the Wayne company.
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* But isn't Creator/BridgetRegan playing Ivy?
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* Jossed: Beside from Alice being locked up again, it's really unnecessary to put Kate through traumatizing plastic surgery to get her original face back.

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* Jossed: Beside from Alice being locked up again, it's really unnecessary to put Kate through traumatizing plastic surgery to get her original face back.back.

[[WMG:[[spoiler: Ryan's birth mother is Poison Ivy]]]]
There will be a twist. Robin Givens will not only play [[spoiler: Ryan's birth mother]], but the super villain as well.
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* Jossed: Beside from Alice being locked up again, it's really unnecessary to put Kate through traumatizing plastic surgery to get her original face back.

[[WMG: Ryan's birth mother is Poison Ivy.]]
There will be a twist. Robin Givens will not only play Ryan's mom, but Poison Ivy as well. Sometime after giving birth to Ryan, she became the villainous Poison Ivy and had many battles with Batman.
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* Jossed: Beside from Alice being locked up again, it's really unnecessary to put Kate through traumatizing plastic surgery to get her original face back.

[[WMG: Ryan's birth mother is Poison Ivy.]]
There will be a twist. Robin Givens will not only play Ryan's mom, but Poison Ivy as well. Sometime after giving birth to Ryan, she became the villainous Poison Ivy and had many battles with Batman.
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Robin Givens will not only play Ryan's mom, but Poison Ivy as well. We don't know Ivy's race in the CW universe.

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There will be a twist. Robin Givens will not only play Ryan's mom, but Poison Ivy as well. We don't know Ivy's race in Sometime after giving birth to Ryan, she became the CW universe.villainous Poison Ivy and had many battles with Batman.
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* Robin Givens will not only play Ryan's mom, but Poison Ivy as well. We don't know Ivy's race in the CW universe.

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* Robin Givens will not only play Ryan's mom, but Poison Ivy as well. We don't know Ivy's race in the CW universe.
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* Jossed as she never meted him masquerading as her cousin due to Kate immediately going to National City after the sudden Season 1 finale.

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* Jossed Jossed, as she never meted met him masquerading as her cousin due to Kate immediately going to National City after the sudden Season 1 finale.



* Jossed: He never meted Ryan out of the suit offically.

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* Jossed: He never meted met Ryan out of the suit offically.
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* Jossed: Ryan's birth dad (real) status and name are unknown, but it's confirmed that her birth mother is still alive and heavily implied by Alice to be an criminal.

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* Jossed: Ryan's birth dad (real) status and name are unknown, Still unknown about her dad, but it's [[spoiler:it's confirmed that her birth mother is still alive and heavily implied by Alice to be an criminal.
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* Jossed: Beside from Alice being locked up again, it's really unnesscary to put Kate through traumatizing plastic surgery to get her original face back.

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* Jossed: Beside from Alice being locked up again, it's really unnesscary unnecessary to put Kate through traumatizing plastic surgery to get her original face back.
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*Jossed: His father made the suit and gear, but hid in his workshop until Luke was ready to use it.




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*Jossed: He never meted Ryan out of the suit offically.




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*Jossed: Kate leaves to go find him after getting her memory back.





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*Jossed: Ryan's birth dad (real) status and name are unknown, but it's confirmed that her birth mother is still alive and heavily implied by Alice to be an criminal.




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*Jossed: Beside from Alice being locked up again, it's really unnesscary to put Kate through traumatizing plastic surgery to get her original face back.
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** Jossed. [[spoiler: Black Mask shot down the plane.]]




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** Jossed. Scarecrow doesn't appear this season.




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** Jossed for now. Kate is leaving Gotham to find Bruce.
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** Jossed. [[spoiler:It was Roman Sionis who shot down the plane, thanks to a tip from Safyiah.]]

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** Jossed. [[spoiler:It was Roman Sionis who shot down the plane, thanks to a tip from Safyiah.]]


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** Confirmed. Riddler is indeed Enigma's father. It's just [[spoiler: she's dead]].




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** Confirmed. Official photos and set leaks have revealed he will indeed take up the identity.
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