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** That actually makes a lot of sense - in the New 52, Dick Grayson makes his first appearance as Robin at 15 or 16, when he plays the role of [[BigDamnHeroes Big Damn Hero]] in the middle of a fight against Lady Shiva. Whilst WordOfGod has stated that Robin won't appear in the game, that doesn't mean a pre-Robin Dick Grayson won't turn up to help Batman, using his Flying Graysons leotard as part of a makeshift costume.

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** That actually makes a lot of sense - in the New 52, Dick Grayson makes his first appearance as Robin at 15 or 16, when he plays the role of [[BigDamnHeroes Big {{Big Damn Hero]] Hero|es}} in the middle of a fight against Lady Shiva. Whilst WordOfGod has stated that Robin won't appear in the game, that doesn't mean a pre-Robin Dick Grayson won't turn up to help Batman, using his Flying Graysons leotard as part of a makeshift costume.



*** Barbara (Comicbook/{{Batgirl}}) Gordon ''does'', however.

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*** Barbara (Comicbook/{{Batgirl}}) (ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}) Gordon ''does'', however.



The game is set on Christmas Eve! They'd be crazy not to include Calender Man, especially after his chilling portrayal in VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity.

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The game is set on Christmas Eve! They'd be crazy not to include Calender Man, especially after his chilling portrayal in VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity.''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity''.



Over the course of the Flamingo storyline, the players would assume he is simply hired by Black Mask, and then the twist is he actually is working for El Penitente... aka The Black Glove/Dr. Simon Hurt.~TroperBeforeTime

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Over the course of the Flamingo storyline, the players would assume he is simply hired by Black Mask, and then the twist is he actually is working for El Penitente... aka The Black Glove/Dr. Simon Hurt. ~TroperBeforeTime



Batman will be hunting down some criminals in the sewer system when out of nowhere they all get attacked by an only slightly less bestial Croc. This will be before he reaches urban legend status, so Batman will be completely unprepared. As soon as the battle is over, Croc will jump back in the water, leaving a battered Batman and many unconscious mooks behind. He'll be a {{Wake Up Call Boss}}, informing both Batman and the player that Gotham's underworld is getting stronger and weirder than first thought when starting out.

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Batman will be hunting down some criminals in the sewer system when out of nowhere they all get attacked by an only slightly less bestial Croc. This will be before he reaches urban legend status, so Batman will be completely unprepared. As soon as the battle is over, Croc will jump back in the water, leaving a battered Batman and many unconscious mooks behind. He'll be a {{Wake Up Call Boss}}, WakeUpCallBoss, informing both Batman and the player that Gotham's underworld is getting stronger and weirder than first thought when starting out.



The Queen industries box in the trailer shows that Ollie Exists in this continuity, and including him would be a good way to introduce a larger Justice League to the series, as he is the ''other'' superpower-less millionaire vigilante. His archery-based play style would work well on Predator maps. He would plan ably be voiced by [[WesternAnimation/YoungJustice Alan]] [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs Tudyk]] and his alternate skins would be [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague animated]] and ''{{Series/Arrow}}''.

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The Queen industries box in the trailer shows that Ollie Exists in this continuity, and including him would be a good way to introduce a larger Justice League to the series, as he is the ''other'' superpower-less millionaire vigilante. His archery-based play style would work well on Predator maps. He would plan ably be voiced by [[WesternAnimation/YoungJustice [[WesternAnimation/YoungJustice2010 Alan]] [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs Tudyk]] and his alternate skins would be [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague animated]] and ''{{Series/Arrow}}''.



[[WMG: Bane and Joker are both HiddenAgendaVillains]]

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[[WMG: Bane and Joker are both HiddenAgendaVillains]]{{Hidden Agenda Villain}}s]]



[[WMG: We'll get to see the start of the Comicbook/SuicideSquad in this game.]]

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[[WMG: We'll get to see the start of the Comicbook/SuicideSquad ComicBook/SuicideSquad in this game.]]



1) Geoff Johns has confirmed that a Comicbook/SuicideSquad video game is in development. The Squad typically doesn't have any A-list villains as members, so it makes sense from a marketing standpoint to make it an Arkhamverse spin-off so they can reach a bigger audience.

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1) Geoff Johns has confirmed that a Comicbook/SuicideSquad ''ComicBook/SuicideSquad'' video game is in development. The Squad typically doesn't have any A-list villains as members, so it makes sense from a marketing standpoint to make it an Arkhamverse spin-off so they can reach a bigger audience.



* It's been confirmed that Mad Hatter will be returning and will again have his own sidequest in which Batman must rescue "Alice" from him. It was implied in Arkham City and explicitly shown in the Arkham: Unhinged comic that Hatter thinks the blonde, blue-eyed Vicki Vale is Alice (indeed, it is for this reason that he actually abducts her in the latter). As such, the sidequest in Origins will show a similar incident from earlier in continuity. Further evidence of this is the fact that Batman will reportedly have to climb a clocktower to rescue "Alice"/Vicki from Hatter, just has he had to climb a belltower to rescue Vicki from the Joker at the climax of Film/Batman1989. This is a series that loves the MythologyGag trope after all.
** Tossed. It looks very much like [[MythologyGag an Arkham series version of his co-worker from]] WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries.

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* It's been confirmed that Mad Hatter will be returning and will again have his own sidequest in which Batman must rescue "Alice" from him. It was implied in Arkham City ''Arkham City'' and explicitly shown in the Arkham: Unhinged ''Arkham: Unhinged'' comic that Hatter thinks the blonde, blue-eyed Vicki Vale is Alice (indeed, it is for this reason that he actually abducts her in the latter). As such, the sidequest in Origins ''Origins'' will show a similar incident from earlier in continuity. Further evidence of this is the fact that Batman will reportedly have to climb a clocktower to rescue "Alice"/Vicki from Hatter, just has he had to climb a belltower to rescue Vicki from the Joker at the climax of Film/Batman1989.''Film/Batman1989''. This is a series that loves the MythologyGag trope after all.
** Tossed. It looks very much like [[MythologyGag an Arkham series version of his co-worker from]] WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries.
''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries''.



** That second part is {{Tossed}}, at elast on the costume front, as Batman is seen wearing the ''Asylum''/''City'' costume in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanAssaultOnArkham'' and that is stated to take place two years before ''Asylum''.
* The Batsuit in this game is an earlier model, that is MUCH heavier, and functions more like a suit of PoweredArmor rather than the high tech fabric suits Batman opts to use later (due to the high tech fabric weighing him down less and letting him be much quieter). The Grapnel Accelerator is fundamentally different from the Boost used in Arkham City, because he doesn't have to worry about the force it's exterting on his arm - the force is entirely on the suit itself instead. When he switched to the lighter suits, the Grapnel stuff had to be redesigned because it actually exerts a force on his arm instead, and it took some time to make City's Boost upgrade that could be used safely. Once he eventually switched back to a more PoweredArmor suit in ArkhamKnight, notice the Accelerator came back and was much more powerful than in Origins, because once again the force can be exerted on the suit instead of his arm.

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** That second part is {{Tossed}}, {{Jossed}}, at elast on the costume front, as Batman is seen wearing the ''Asylum''/''City'' costume in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanAssaultOnArkham'' and that is stated to take place two years before ''Asylum''.
* The Batsuit in this game is an earlier model, that is MUCH heavier, and functions more like a suit of PoweredArmor rather than the high tech fabric suits Batman opts to use later (due to the high tech fabric weighing him down less and letting him be much quieter). The Grapnel Accelerator is fundamentally different from the Boost used in Arkham City, ''Arkham City'', because he doesn't have to worry about the force it's exterting on his arm - the force is entirely on the suit itself instead. When he switched to the lighter suits, the Grapnel stuff had to be redesigned because it actually exerts a force on his arm instead, and it took some time to make City's Boost upgrade that could be used safely. Once he eventually switched back to a more PoweredArmor suit in ArkhamKnight, ''VideoGame/ArkhamKnight'', notice the Accelerator came back and was much more powerful than in Origins, ''Origins'', because once again the force can be exerted on the suit instead of his arm.



* The Shock Gloves were turned into the GCPD by Batman after the events of this game. You can even see them in the evidence locker in ArkhamKnight.

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* The Shock Gloves were turned into the GCPD by Batman after the events of this game. You can even see them in the evidence locker in ArkhamKnight.
''VideoGame/ArkhamKnight''.
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*** Tossed. Dick Grayson doesn't appear in the story mode.

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*** Tossed.Jossed. Dick Grayson doesn't appear in the story mode.
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*** Jossed. Dick Grayson doesn't appear in the story mode.

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*** Jossed.Tossed. Dick Grayson doesn't appear in the story mode.



** Jossed. The assassins do not interact with each other at all in the game proper.

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** Jossed.Tossed. The assassins do not interact with each other at all in the game proper.



Seems to be jossed. [[http://nintendoeverything.com/wp-content/gallery/batman-arkham-origins_3/outro_shot___9_.jpg Joker will appear as Joker.]]

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Seems to be jossed.Tossed. [[http://nintendoeverything.com/wp-content/gallery/batman-arkham-origins_3/outro_shot___9_.jpg Joker will appear as Joker.]]



*** Jossed. Robin isn't in story mode.

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*** Jossed.Tossed. Robin isn't in story mode.



** Jossed. Jack Ryder is in the game during a credits dialogue scene but his Creeper persona isn't in this.

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** Jossed.Tossed. Jack Ryder is in the game during a credits dialogue scene but his Creeper persona isn't in this.



*** Jossed

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*** JossedTossed



** Jossed. She appears in the Arkham Origins: Blackgate handheld game.

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** Jossed.Tossed. She appears in the Arkham Origins: Blackgate handheld game.



*** Jossed. Refs are made to some of the JL members but none appear in the flesh.

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*** Jossed.Tossed. Refs are made to some of the JL members but none appear in the flesh.



* Jossed

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* Jossed
Tossed



* Jossed.

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* Jossed.
Tossed.



* Jossed.

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* Jossed.
Tossed.



* Jossed.

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* Jossed.Tossed.



** Jossed. He appears in the opening briefly but that's it.

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** Jossed.Tossed. He appears in the opening briefly but that's it.



** Jossed.

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** Jossed.
Tossed.



*** Jossed.

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*** Jossed.
Tossed.



* Jossed. Killer Croc is one of the assassins.

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* Jossed.Tossed. Killer Croc is one of the assassins.



* Jossed by Eric Holmes.


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* Jossed Tossed by Eric Holmes.




** Jossed. [[spoiler:Black Mask didn't hire them at all, ''Joker'' did. And he doesn't seem to have any goal other than his usual desire to cause chaos ForTheEvulz.]]

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** Jossed.Tossed. [[spoiler:Black Mask didn't hire them at all, ''Joker'' did. And he doesn't seem to have any goal other than his usual desire to cause chaos ForTheEvulz.]]



** Partially jossed. Ra's al Ghul does not appear, but he does send Lady Shiva to attempt to test and possibly recruit Batman in his stead.

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** Partially jossed.Tossed. Ra's al Ghul does not appear, but he does send Lady Shiva to attempt to test and possibly recruit Batman in his stead.



*** Jossed. Not only does Harvey not show up in-game, he's also already said that Falcone was the one who caused his disfigurement.

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*** Jossed.Tossed. Not only does Harvey not show up in-game, he's also already said that Falcone was the one who caused his disfigurement.



*** Still the theory that the Copperhead in the game is a group of similar-looking individuals is Jossed.

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*** Still the theory that the Copperhead in the game is a group of similar-looking individuals is Jossed.
Tossed.



* Jossed. [[spoiler:Black Mask is kidnapped by Joker but is simply taken in by the cops if you finish his side mission.]]

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* Jossed.Tossed. [[spoiler:Black Mask is kidnapped by Joker but is simply taken in by the cops if you finish his side mission.]]



** Jossed. It looks very much like [[MythologyGag an Arkham series version of his co-worker from]] WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries.

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** Jossed.Tossed. It looks very much like [[MythologyGag an Arkham series version of his co-worker from]] WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries.



** That second part is {{Jossed}}, at elast on the costume front, as Batman is seen wearing the ''Asylum''/''City'' costume in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanAssaultOnArkham'' and that is stated to take place two years before ''Asylum''.

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** That second part is {{Jossed}}, {{Tossed}}, at elast on the costume front, as Batman is seen wearing the ''Asylum''/''City'' costume in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanAssaultOnArkham'' and that is stated to take place two years before ''Asylum''.



* Jossed. You play as Batman the entire time.

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* Jossed.Tossed. You play as Batman the entire time.
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* It's been confirmed that Mad Hatter will be returning and will again have his own sidequest in which Batman must rescue "Alice" from him. It was implied in Arkham City and explicitly shown in the Arkham: Unhinged comic that Hatter thinks the blonde, blue-eyed Vicki Vale is Alice (indeed, it is for this reason that he actually abducts her in the latter). As such, the sidequest in Origins will show a similar incident from earlier in continuity. Further evidence of this is the fact that Batman will reportedly have to climb a clocktower to rescue "Alice"/Vicki from Hatter, just has he had to climb a belltower to rescue Vicki from the Joker at the climax of Film/BatMan. This is a series that loves the MythologyGag trope after all.

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* It's been confirmed that Mad Hatter will be returning and will again have his own sidequest in which Batman must rescue "Alice" from him. It was implied in Arkham City and explicitly shown in the Arkham: Unhinged comic that Hatter thinks the blonde, blue-eyed Vicki Vale is Alice (indeed, it is for this reason that he actually abducts her in the latter). As such, the sidequest in Origins will show a similar incident from earlier in continuity. Further evidence of this is the fact that Batman will reportedly have to climb a clocktower to rescue "Alice"/Vicki from Hatter, just has he had to climb a belltower to rescue Vicki from the Joker at the climax of Film/BatMan.Film/Batman1989. This is a series that loves the MythologyGag trope after all.
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[[WMG: We'll get to see the start of the SuicideSquad in this game.]]

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[[WMG: We'll get to see the start of the SuicideSquad Comicbook/SuicideSquad in this game.]]



1) Geoff Johns has confirmed that a SuicideSquad video game is in development. The Squad typically doesn't have any A-list villains as members, so it makes sense from a marketing standpoint to make it an Arkhamverse spin-off so they can reach a bigger audience.

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1) Geoff Johns has confirmed that a SuicideSquad Comicbook/SuicideSquad video game is in development. The Squad typically doesn't have any A-list villains as members, so it makes sense from a marketing standpoint to make it an Arkhamverse spin-off so they can reach a bigger audience.

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