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** Wait... Are we talking [[DatingCatwoman Bruce's]] lovelife or [[HeroesWantRedheads Dick's]] here?

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** Wait... Are we talking [[DatingCatwoman Bruce's]] lovelife or [[HeroesWantRedheads Dick's]] Dick's here?
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[[WMG: ''Arkham 3'' will be a ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' / ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' crossover]]

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[[WMG: ''Arkham 3'' will be a ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Batman}}'' / ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'' crossover]]



[[WMG:[[Franchise/{{Batman}} Calendar Man]] will be behind everything]]

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[[WMG:[[Franchise/{{Batman}} [[WMG:[[ComicBook/{{Batman}} Calendar Man]] will be behind everything]]



Only to be [[CurbStompBattle dispatched almost instantly]] by Franchise/{{Batman}}. During Arkham Asylum, he flat out said he was producing more anti-Titan, and like [[CrazyPrepared Batman's]] not gonna carry the antidote around with him at all times.

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Only to be [[CurbStompBattle dispatched almost instantly]] by Franchise/{{Batman}}.ComicBook/{{Batman}}. During Arkham Asylum, he flat out said he was producing more anti-Titan, and like [[CrazyPrepared Batman's]] not gonna carry the antidote around with him at all times.
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** While the Riddler isn't the big bad of Knight, he was the big bad of rhe novel that bridged the story of Arkham City and Arkham Knight called the Riddler's Gambit.

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** While the Riddler isn't the big bad of Knight, he was the big bad of rhe novel that bridged the story of Arkham City and Arkham Knight called the [[Literature/BatmanArkhamKnightTheRiddlersGambit The Riddler's Gambit.
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** Maybe in an Arkham City direct sequel but they didn't appear in Arkham Origins.
*** Tossed it's not in Knight either.

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** Maybe in an Arkham City ''Arkham City'' direct sequel but they didn't appear in Arkham Origins.
''Arkham Origins''.
*** Tossed it's not in Knight ''Knight'' either.



** Maybe in a direct Arkham City sequel but in terms of Arkham Origins no.
[[WMG: In the final Arkham. . .]]
Scarecrow will loosen Gotham with fear gas (batman will be wearing a gas mask) while this is going on THE GATES OF HELL WILL OPEN!!!!!the final boss will be joker and scarecrow and joker will have knife hands and kill scarecrow to drag him to hell with him. It will end with batman smiling and walking away.

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** Maybe in a direct Arkham City ''Arkham City'' sequel but in terms of Arkham Origins no.
''Arkham Origins'' no.

[[WMG: In the final Arkham.''Arkham''. . .]]
Scarecrow will loosen Gotham with fear gas (batman (Batman will be wearing a gas mask) while this is going on THE GATES OF HELL WILL OPEN!!!!!the OPEN! The final boss will be joker Joker and scarecrow Scarecrow and joker Joker will have knife hands and kill scarecrow Scarecrow to drag him to hell with him. It will end with batman Batman smiling and walking away.away.



[[WMG: ''Arkham 3'' will be a Franchise/{{Batman}} / Franchise/SpiderMan crossover]]

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[[WMG: ''Arkham 3'' will be a Franchise/{{Batman}} ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' / Franchise/SpiderMan ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' crossover]]



* {{Tossed}} (see below).

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* {{Tossed}} {{Jossed}} (see below).



* Deadpool is in the Franchise/MarvelUniverse, so this is {{Tossed}} without any further explanation.

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* Deadpool is in the Franchise/MarvelUniverse, so this is {{Tossed}} {{Jossed}} without any further explanation.



[[WMG: Batman will end up adopting [[spoiler: Joker's kid]].]]

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[[WMG: Batman will end up adopting [[spoiler: Joker's kid]].]]kid]]]]



** [[spoiler: {{Tossed}}: ''Origins'' was a prequel and ''Knight'' only had Hush as a sidequest.]]

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** [[spoiler: {{Tossed}}: {{Jossed}}: ''Origins'' was a prequel and ''Knight'' only had Hush as a sidequest.]]



* [[spoiler: {{Tossed}}, ''Knight'' wasn't based on ''No Man's Land''.]]

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* [[spoiler: {{Tossed}}, {{Jossed}}, ''Knight'' wasn't based on ''No Man's Land''.]]



* You can change the system clock to find out whether this is true. However, considering your previous encounters with him in Asylum, I dare you, because I am not taking the risk of possibly proving this theory.
** [[Tossed]].

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* You can change the system clock to find out whether this is true. However, considering your previous encounters with him in Asylum, ''Asylum'', I dare you, because I am not taking the risk of possibly proving this theory.
** [[Tossed]].
{{Jossed}}.



** {{Tossed}}: Scarecrow was the BigBad of ''Knight'' [[and spoiler: and Joker was still the BigBad of the prequel, ''Origins'']]

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** {{Tossed}}: {{Jossed}}: Scarecrow was the BigBad of ''Knight'' [[and spoiler: and [[spoiler: and Joker was still the BigBad of the prequel, ''Origins'']]



[[WMG: [[spoiler: Ra's had no intention of naming Strange his heir had his plan succeeded]].]]

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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Ra's had no intention of naming Strange his heir had his plan succeeded]].]]succeeded]]]]



** {{Tossed}}, though Firefly does appear in both ''Origins'' and ''Knight''.

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** {{Tossed}}, {{Jossed}}, though Firefly does appear in both ''Origins'' and ''Knight''.



* {{Tossed}}: As usual, you can only play as Batman and even then a lot of these ideas aren't in the game.

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* {{Tossed}}: {{Jossed}}: As usual, you can only play as Batman and even then a lot of these ideas aren't in the game.



[[WMG: [[spoiler: The Joker is dead for good and isn't coming back]]. ]]

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[[WMG: [[spoiler: The Joker is dead for good and isn't coming back]]. ]]back]]]]



[[WMG:: The new ''[[Film/StarTrek2009 Star Trek]]'' movie was never made in the Arkham-verse.]]

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[[WMG:: [[WMG: The new ''[[Film/StarTrek2009 Star Trek]]'' movie was never made in the Arkham-verse.]]



** {{Tossed}}, [[spoiler: though Harley does obsess over the Joker Infected when she learns of them in ''Knight''.]]

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** {{Tossed}}, {{Jossed}}, [[spoiler: though Harley does obsess over the Joker Infected when she learns of them in ''Knight''.]]



** {{Tossed}}, Azrael, even in this game, said he worked for the Order of St. Dumas.

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** {{Tossed}}, {{Jossed}}, Azrael, even in this game, said he worked for the Order of St. Dumas.



* The part of there being no toher heroes is {{Tossed}}: ''Knight'' sees several mentioned to other heroes, including Superman and the Flash, Oracle's computer shows she's talking to Black Canary and Hnutress, and John Cnostantine has an office in Gotham.

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* The part of there being no toher heroes is {{Tossed}}: {{Jossed}}: ''Knight'' sees several mentioned to other heroes, including Superman and the Flash, Oracle's computer shows she's talking to Black Canary and Hnutress, and John Cnostantine has an office in Gotham.



* {{Tossed}} on both counts: ''Origins'' was a prequel and ''Knight'' takes place a year after ''City''

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* {{Tossed}} {{Jossed}} on both counts: ''Origins'' was a prequel and ''Knight'' takes place a year after ''City''



** {{Tossed}}.

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** {{Tossed}}.
{{Jossed}}.



** {{Tossed}}, they don't appear in ''Knight''.

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** {{Tossed}}, {{Jossed}}, they don't appear in ''Knight''.



** And {{Tossed}} on both counts: [[spoiler: the ''Origins'' prequel is Joker as the main villain]] and Scarecrow's the BigBad of ''Knight''.

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** And {{Tossed}} {{Jossed}} on both counts: [[spoiler: the ''Origins'' prequel is Joker as the main villain]] and Scarecrow's the BigBad of ''Knight''.



** {{Tossed}}

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** {{Tossed}}{{Jossed}}



** {{Tossed}}, though he does appear in ''Blackgate''.

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** {{Tossed}}, {{Jossed}}, though he does appear in ''Blackgate''.



** {{Tossed}}.

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** {{Tossed}}.{{Jossed}}.



** {{Tossed}}.

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** {{Tossed}}.{{Jossed}}.



** {{Tossed}}.

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** {{Tossed}}.
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** Well technically it might be apeearing in flashbacks in the next game or some other form of appearance. I really hope they reinact the Joker's death from ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns

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** Well technically it might be apeearing in flashbacks in the next game or some other form of appearance. I really hope they reinact the Joker's death from ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns''



[[WMG: [[TimeyWimeyBall Time Travel Twist]]: In Arkham City Batman will team up with [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond Batman]].]]

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[[WMG: [[TimeyWimeyBall Time Travel Twist]]: In Arkham City ''Arkham City'' Batman will team up with [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond Batman]].]]



** Tossed, although [[spoiler: the WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond costume is wearable for NewGamePlus.]]

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** Tossed, although [[spoiler: the WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' costume is wearable for NewGamePlus.]]



** So...instead of "Scarecrow Hallucination" levels, we'd have [[ComicBook/GrantMorrisonsBatman "Batman of Zur-En-Arrh"]] levels? Awesome.

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** So...instead of "Scarecrow Hallucination" levels, we'd have [[ComicBook/GrantMorrisonsBatman [[ComicBook/BatmanGrantMorrison "Batman of Zur-En-Arrh"]] levels? Awesome.



* Her new voice actor is Creator/TaraStrong, it's either that or a [[WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents Fairly Odd Parents]] reference.

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* Her new voice actor is Creator/TaraStrong, it's either that or a [[WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents ''[[WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents Fairly Odd Parents]] Parents]]'' reference.



Only if the guys at Rocksteady are [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Avatar]] fans of course.

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Only if the guys at Rocksteady are [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Avatar]] ''[[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Avatar]]'' fans of course.



It's been mentioned he managed to have his [[HandCannon Hand Cannons]] and a SniperRifle smuggled into Arkham City, but given that even Batman can't get things in and out of the city easily, is it not more plausible that he had help from Strange?

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It's been mentioned he managed to have his [[HandCannon Hand Cannons]] {{Hand Cannon}}s and a SniperRifle smuggled into Arkham City, but given that even Batman can't get things in and out of the city easily, is it not more plausible that he had help from Strange?



In his third kill, [[spoiler: he uses pinball-precision to kill a political prisoner. [[TruthInTelevision Real-life tennis players with a southpaw have been able to win by knowing precisely where the ball would go, as do other southpaw people can do with the spatial awareness that left-handedness can give you]].]] Also, in his final confrontation, [[spoiler: he uses his left hand to aim his wrist darts when looking for you]].

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In his third kill, [[spoiler: he uses pinball-precision to kill a political prisoner. [[TruthInTelevision Real-life tennis players with a southpaw have been able to win by knowing precisely where the ball would go, as do other southpaw people can do with the spatial awareness that left-handedness can give you]].]] Also, in his final confrontation, [[spoiler: he uses his left hand to aim his wrist darts when looking for you]].



[[WMG: The Arkham Asylum and Arkham City games are in a divergent timeline from Chris Nolan's Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy]]

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[[WMG: The Arkham Asylum ''Arkham Asylum'' and Arkham City ''Arkham City'' games are in a divergent timeline from Chris Nolan's Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy]]''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'']]



** The crashed monorail (from Batman Begins)

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** The crashed monorail (from Batman Begins)''Batman Begins'')



** Croc's appearance (similar to his look from WesternAnimation/BatmanGothamKnight)

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** Croc's appearance (similar to his look from WesternAnimation/BatmanGothamKnight)''WesternAnimation/BatmanGothamKnight'')



* Taking Azrael's VaguenessIsComing prophecy in AC, all the characters campaigns will combine for a grand finally, VideoGame/SonicAdventure style, that will result in the near/total destruction of Gotham, and will have even the villains teaming up with the Bat family to save their city.
* {{Tossed}}: As usual, you can only play as Batman and even then a lot of these dieas aren't in the game.

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* Taking Azrael's VaguenessIsComing prophecy in AC, all the characters campaigns will combine for a grand finally, VideoGame/SonicAdventure ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure'' style, that will result in the near/total destruction of Gotham, and will have even the villains teaming up with the Bat family to save their city.
* {{Tossed}}: As usual, you can only play as Batman and even then a lot of these dieas ideas aren't in the game.



[[WMG:: The new [[Film/StarTrek2009 Star Trek]] movie was never made in the Arkham-verse.]]

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[[WMG:: The new [[Film/StarTrek2009 ''[[Film/StarTrek2009 Star Trek]] Trek]]'' movie was never made in the Arkham-verse.]]



[[WMG: The third game will be based off ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns.]]
* The deaths of Joker and Talia drive Batman into retirement, Two Face is captured, as one of the more reasonable villains realizes Strange played him and suddenly wants to become normal again, and the other criminals are decimated from the events of the second game. However ten years later the mutants rise forcing Bruce Wayne to take up the mantle of Batman, Carrie Kelly is enamored by stories of the Dark Knight (ala WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries) and becomes the new Robin, and Joker is somehow BackFromTheDead. Given Batman's mindset his fighting becomes even more brutal and one of the boss battles will include tearing apart the mutant leader in the mud pit. The final boss? Superman, which will involve using the counter button to prevent Batman from landing a killing blow. The playable epilogue will involve Batman BackFrokmTheDead and going after ComicBook/LexLuthor.

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[[WMG: The third game will be based off ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns.''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns''.]]
* The deaths of Joker and Talia drive Batman into retirement, Two Face is captured, as one of the more reasonable villains realizes Strange played him and suddenly wants to become normal again, and the other criminals are decimated from the events of the second game. However ten years later the mutants rise forcing Bruce Wayne to take up the mantle of Batman, Carrie Kelly is enamored by stories of the Dark Knight (ala WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries) ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'') and becomes the new Robin, and Joker is somehow BackFromTheDead. Given Batman's mindset his fighting becomes even more brutal and one of the boss battles will include tearing apart the mutant leader in the mud pit. The final boss? Superman, which will involve using the counter button to prevent Batman from landing a killing blow. The playable epilogue will involve Batman BackFrokmTheDead BackFromTheDead and going after ComicBook/LexLuthor.



** Indeed it was. If we are going by Joker appearing as a fear induced hallucination why not have multiple Jokers? Inspired by such sources as ''Film/TheDarkKnight'', WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries and yes, WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood. Same with other villains and characters, we can have Dick Grayson becoming the person he was in ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns, Jason Todd's death, we could have Penguin appear in his Arkham guise as well as the way he appeared in ''Film/BatmanReturns''. That way we could get both voice actors and it would be a nice nod to not only the other interpretations of Batman but the works that like to tell different versions such as ''Gotham Knights, Legends of the Dark Knight,'' ect, or the stories where we think or Batman thinks it's real (''Over the Edge, Perchance to Dream.'')

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** Indeed it was. If we are going by Joker appearing as a fear induced hallucination why not have multiple Jokers? Inspired by such sources as ''Film/TheDarkKnight'', WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' and yes, WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood. ''WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood''. Same with other villains and characters, we can have Dick Grayson becoming the person he was in ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns, ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'', Jason Todd's death, we could have Penguin appear in his Arkham guise as well as the way he appeared in ''Film/BatmanReturns''. That way we could get both voice actors and it would be a nice nod to not only the other interpretations of Batman but the works that like to tell different versions such as ''Gotham Knights, Legends of the Dark Knight,'' ect, or the stories where we think or Batman thinks it's real (''Over the Edge, Perchance to Dream.'')



It will be a heroic sacrifice to stop whomever's plans. Over the course of the game he will be [[ReformedButRejected largely untrusted by the city]] [[PetTheDog but the Bat-family.]] [[KickTheDog Maybe Nora dies before this or wakes up shortly after.]] As long as we have [[TearJerker this quote]] WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond from his last appearance...]]

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It will be a heroic sacrifice to stop whomever's plans. Over the course of the game he will be [[ReformedButRejected largely untrusted by the city]] [[PetTheDog but the Bat-family.]] [[KickTheDog Maybe Nora dies before this or wakes up shortly after.]] As long as we have [[TearJerker this quote]] WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond from his last appearance...]]



* Utterly Tossed. Harley Quinn's Revenge and Arkham Knight both take place after Arkham City and directly reference its events. The references to the Scarecrow are simply a SequelHook for Arkham Knight.


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* Utterly Tossed. Harley ''Harley Quinn's Revenge Revenge'' and Arkham Knight ''Arkham Knight'' both take place after Arkham City ''Arkham City'' and directly reference its events. The references to the Scarecrow are simply a SequelHook for Arkham Knight.''Arkham Knight''.




[[WMG: Arkham City is the first of the Sanctuary districts from the historical background of Franchise/StarTrek]]

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[[WMG: Arkham City is the first of the Sanctuary districts from the historical background of Franchise/StarTrek]]''Franchise/StarTrek'']]
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* The deaths of Joker and Talia drive Batman into retirement, Two Face is captured, as one of the more reasonable villains realizes Strange played him and suddenly wants to become normal again, and the other criminals are decimated from the events of the second game. However ten years later the mutants rise forcing Bruce Wayne to take up the mantle of Batman, Carrie Kelly is enamored by stories of the Dark Knight (ala WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries) and becomes the new Robin, and Joker is somehow BackFromTheDead. Given Batman's mindset his fighting becomes [[UpToEleven even more brutal]] and one of the boss battles will include tearing apart the mutant leader in the mud pit. The final boss? Superman, which will involve using the counter button to prevent Batman from landing a killing blow. The playable epilogue will involve Batman BackFrokmTheDead and going after ComicBook/LexLuthor.

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* The deaths of Joker and Talia drive Batman into retirement, Two Face is captured, as one of the more reasonable villains realizes Strange played him and suddenly wants to become normal again, and the other criminals are decimated from the events of the second game. However ten years later the mutants rise forcing Bruce Wayne to take up the mantle of Batman, Carrie Kelly is enamored by stories of the Dark Knight (ala WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries) and becomes the new Robin, and Joker is somehow BackFromTheDead. Given Batman's mindset his fighting becomes [[UpToEleven even more brutal]] brutal and one of the boss battles will include tearing apart the mutant leader in the mud pit. The final boss? Superman, which will involve using the counter button to prevent Batman from landing a killing blow. The playable epilogue will involve Batman BackFrokmTheDead and going after ComicBook/LexLuthor.
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*** Jossed. Arkham Origins has been released.

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*** Jossed.Tossed. Arkham Origins has been released.



*** Jossed it's not in Knight either.

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*** Jossed Tossed it's not in Knight either.



** If it were an illusion, then, from Robin's POV, Oracle would probably be mentioning that she didn't understand even ''why'' Batman was so distressed over Joker. Also, he's not the only one who sees Joker's body. The best example is Harley Quinn. No offense, but this was jossed before it was even written.

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** If it were an illusion, then, from Robin's POV, Oracle would probably be mentioning that she didn't understand even ''why'' Batman was so distressed over Joker. Also, he's not the only one who sees Joker's body. The best example is Harley Quinn. No offense, but this was jossed Tossed before it was even written.



* Jossed.

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* Jossed.
Tossed.



** Semi Jossed; We can see Arkham Island from the east side of Akham City, but the bridge that connects it to the mainland leads to a different part of town.

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** Semi Jossed; Tossed; We can see Arkham Island from the east side of Akham City, but the bridge that connects it to the mainland leads to a different part of town.



* {{Jossed}} (see below).

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* {{Jossed}} {{Tossed}} (see below).



* Semi Jossed? We have some references to ''Jezebel Jet'' hidden around Arkham City (there's images of road signs and the like) complete with references to Joker's red and black motif in RIP, but alas, no Professor Pyg or Dollotrons, and no Flamingo carving people's faces off.

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* Semi Jossed? Tossed? We have some references to ''Jezebel Jet'' hidden around Arkham City (there's images of road signs and the like) complete with references to Joker's red and black motif in RIP, but alas, no Professor Pyg or Dollotrons, and no Flamingo carving people's faces off.



* Jossed. Calendar Man's little more than an easter egg.

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* Jossed.Tossed. Calendar Man's little more than an easter egg.



** Jossed. There is a CreditsSong, but [[spoiler:ComicBook/TheJoker]] sings it.

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** Jossed.Tossed. There is a CreditsSong, but [[spoiler:ComicBook/TheJoker]] sings it.



*** Jossed. Multiplayer was in Arkham Origins though.

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*** Jossed.Tossed. Multiplayer was in Arkham Origins though.



* Jossed. Young isn't resurrected.

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* Jossed.Tossed. Young isn't resurrected.



** Jossed, although [[spoiler: the WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond costume is wearable for NewGamePlus.]]

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** Jossed, Tossed, although [[spoiler: the WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond costume is wearable for NewGamePlus.]]



** Jossed, he does have a faction (and managed to [[spoiler:temporarily escape Arkham City]], as a Riddler trophy reveals) but none of them appear in-game.

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** Jossed, Tossed, he does have a faction (and managed to [[spoiler:temporarily escape Arkham City]], as a Riddler trophy reveals) but none of them appear in-game.



** [[spoiler:Jossed; he doesn't appear ingame aside from an easter egg.]]

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** [[spoiler:Jossed; [[spoiler:Tossed; he doesn't appear ingame aside from an easter egg.]]



** Jossed, given [[spoiler: Harley is now carrying Joker's love child.]]
*** [[spoiler: Jossed, but Harley isn't pregnant, either.]]

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** Jossed, Tossed, given [[spoiler: Harley is now carrying Joker's love child.]]
*** [[spoiler: Jossed, Tossed, but Harley isn't pregnant, either.]]



* Deadpool is in the Franchise/MarvelUniverse, so this is {{Jossed}} without any further explanation.

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* Deadpool is in the Franchise/MarvelUniverse, so this is {{Jossed}} {{Tossed}} without any further explanation.



* Jossed: Nightwing is DLC but has no voice actor.

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* Jossed: Tossed: Nightwing is DLC but has no voice actor.



* Jossed unless you count Catwoman, who's really more of an AntiHero at this point anyway.

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* Jossed Tossed unless you count Catwoman, who's really more of an AntiHero at this point anyway.



* [[spoiler: Jossed. He's physically ill, all right.]]

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* [[spoiler: Jossed.Tossed. He's physically ill, all right.]]



* Jossed.

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* Jossed.
Tossed.



** Jossed. Catwoman is only playable with the Online Pass. The final boss is [[spoiler:Clayface, who sadly does not turn into Batman mid-battle]].

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** Jossed.Tossed. Catwoman is only playable with the Online Pass. The final boss is [[spoiler:Clayface, who sadly does not turn into Batman mid-battle]].



* Jossed. However there are ruins of Old Gotham, and the {{Zeerust}}-tastic {{Steampunk}} metropolis that is Wonder City.

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* Jossed.Tossed. However there are ruins of Old Gotham, and the {{Zeerust}}-tastic {{Steampunk}} metropolis that is Wonder City.



* Jossed. Joker's running his own scheme, but it has little, if anything, to do with Strange's plans.

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* Jossed.Tossed. Joker's running his own scheme, but it has little, if anything, to do with Strange's plans.



* [[spoiler: Jossed. Strange is a CutsceneBoss. The "I'm Batman" achievment is awared five minutes into the game.]]

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* [[spoiler: Jossed.Tossed. Strange is a CutsceneBoss. The "I'm Batman" achievment is awared five minutes into the game.]]



* Jossed. She shows up halfway through the story having been occupied with other things previously.

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* Jossed.Tossed. She shows up halfway through the story having been occupied with other things previously.



* Jossed, for this game at least. There's always next time, though...

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* Jossed, Tossed, for this game at least. There's always next time, though...



* Jossed.

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* Jossed.
Tossed.



* [[spoiler: Jossed.]]

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* [[spoiler: Jossed.Tossed.]]



* Jossed. Something like that would've likely caused a large amount of Nerd Rage, anyway.

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* Jossed.Tossed. Something like that would've likely caused a large amount of Nerd Rage, anyway.



* [[spoiler: Jossed. Batman destroys Grundy and defeats Penguin right after.]]

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* [[spoiler: Jossed.Tossed. Batman destroys Grundy and defeats Penguin right after.]]



** Jossed, as that's basically her role.

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** Jossed, Tossed, as that's basically her role.



* Jossed. All you see of Scarecrow in-game is his mask, which is the solution to a Riddler Challenge. [[spoiler: And also an EasterEgg referring to him.]]

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* Jossed.Tossed. All you see of Scarecrow in-game is his mask, which is the solution to a Riddler Challenge. [[spoiler: And also an EasterEgg referring to him.]]



* [[spoiler: Jossed, at least for now, since Ra's dies in the game. Then again, he's died before, so it can't be completely ruled out.]]

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* [[spoiler: Jossed, Tossed, at least for now, since Ra's dies in the game. Then again, he's died before, so it can't be completely ruled out.]]



* [[spoiler: Jossed.]]

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* [[spoiler: Jossed.Tossed.]]



* [[spoiler: Jossed.]]

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* [[spoiler: Jossed.Tossed.]]



* Jossed. The Riddler provides the commentary.

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* Jossed.Tossed. The Riddler provides the commentary.



* Jossed before it even happens. WB Games, the parent company for Rocksteady, is also the parent company for DC Comics. Making a Marvel game would be working for the competition.

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* Jossed Tossed before it even happens. WB Games, the parent company for Rocksteady, is also the parent company for DC Comics. Making a Marvel game would be working for the competition.



** [[spoiler: Jossed. It is revealed Harley had a fake positive.]]

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** [[spoiler: Jossed.Tossed. It is revealed Harley had a fake positive.]]



** [[spoiler: {{Jossed}}: ''Origins'' was a prequel and ''Knight'' only had Hush as a sidequest.]]

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** [[spoiler: {{Jossed}}: {{Tossed}}: ''Origins'' was a prequel and ''Knight'' only had Hush as a sidequest.]]



* [[spoiler: {{Jossed}}, ''Knight'' wasn't based on ''No Man's Land''.]]

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* [[spoiler: {{Jossed}}, {{Tossed}}, ''Knight'' wasn't based on ''No Man's Land''.]]



** [[Jossed]].

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** [[Jossed]].
[[Tossed]].



* [[spoiler: Jossed. She's dead.]]

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* [[spoiler: Jossed.Tossed. She's dead.]]



** {{Jossed}}: Scarecrow was the BigBad of ''Knight'' [[and spoiler: and Joker was still the BigBad of the prequel, ''Origins'']]

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** {{Jossed}}: {{Tossed}}: Scarecrow was the BigBad of ''Knight'' [[and spoiler: and Joker was still the BigBad of the prequel, ''Origins'']]



** {{Jossed}}, though Firefly does appear in both ''Origins'' and ''Knight''.

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** {{Jossed}}, {{Tossed}}, though Firefly does appear in both ''Origins'' and ''Knight''.



** [[spoiler: Heavily Jossed. Everyone has a skeleton where Clayface always can be seen without one.

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** [[spoiler: Heavily Jossed.Tossed. Everyone has a skeleton where Clayface always can be seen without one.



* {{Jossed}}: As usual, you can only play as Batman and even then a lot of these dieas aren't in the game.

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* {{Jossed}}: {{Tossed}}: As usual, you can only play as Batman and even then a lot of these dieas aren't in the game.



** {{Jossed}}, [[spoiler: though Harley does obsess over the Joker Infected when she learns of them in ''Knight''.]]

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** {{Jossed}}, {{Tossed}}, [[spoiler: though Harley does obsess over the Joker Infected when she learns of them in ''Knight''.]]



** {{Jossed}}, Azrael, even in this game, said he worked for the Order of St. Dumas.

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** {{Jossed}}, {{Tossed}}, Azrael, even in this game, said he worked for the Order of St. Dumas.



* The part of there being no toher heroes is {{Jossed}}: ''Knight'' sees several mentioned to other heroes, including Superman and the Flash, Oracle's computer shows she's talking to Black Canary and Hnutress, and John Cnostantine has an office in Gotham.

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* The part of there being no toher heroes is {{Jossed}}: {{Tossed}}: ''Knight'' sees several mentioned to other heroes, including Superman and the Flash, Oracle's computer shows she's talking to Black Canary and Hnutress, and John Cnostantine has an office in Gotham.



* {{Jossed}} on both counts: ''Origins'' was a prequel and ''Knight'' takes place a year after ''City''

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* {{Jossed}} {{Tossed}} on both counts: ''Origins'' was a prequel and ''Knight'' takes place a year after ''City''



** {{Jossed}}.

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** {{Jossed}}.
{{Tossed}}.



** {{Jossed}}, they don't appear in ''Knight''.

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** {{Jossed}}, {{Tossed}}, they don't appear in ''Knight''.



** And {{Jossed}} on both counts: [[spoiler: the ''Origins'' prequel is Joker as the main villain]] and Scarecrow's the BigBad of ''Knight''.

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** And {{Jossed}} {{Tossed}} on both counts: [[spoiler: the ''Origins'' prequel is Joker as the main villain]] and Scarecrow's the BigBad of ''Knight''.



** {{Jossed}}

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** {{Jossed}}{{Tossed}}



** {{Jossed}}, though he does appear in ''Blackgate''.

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** {{Jossed}}, {{Tossed}}, though he does appear in ''Blackgate''.



** {{Jossed}}.

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** {{Jossed}}.{{Tossed}}.



** {{Jossed}}.

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** {{Jossed}}.{{Tossed}}.



** {{Jossed}}.

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** {{Jossed}}.
{{Tossed}}.



* Jossed. Joker clearly made reference to his "spa treatment".

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* Jossed.Tossed. Joker clearly made reference to his "spa treatment".



* Utterly jossed. Harley Quinn's Revenge and Arkham Knight both take place after Arkham City and directly reference its events. The references to the Scarecrow are simply a SequelHook for Arkham Knight.


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* Utterly jossed.Tossed. Harley Quinn's Revenge and Arkham Knight both take place after Arkham City and directly reference its events. The references to the Scarecrow are simply a SequelHook for Arkham Knight.

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Based on ''Batman Beyond'' being one of the New 52 universes, there's a lot of potential for Terry McGinnis to appear more in the spotlight again, though with Damien being his mentor and the equivalent of Barbara/Alfred in this game, with Bruce Wayne being officially retired and no longer active, though he would of course inevitably become involved in the story. It would/could take place underground, slightly inhibiting the Beyond suit's flight capabilities while still allowing for great mobility like in previous games. Talia (and possibly Ra's) reappears, having been resurrected via Lazarus Pit, but is corrupted to an extent because Clayface fell into the pit as well, resulting in Talia not only being driven insane but also having Clayface's powers and possibly multiple personalities after merging with Karlo (and maybe Ra's as well). All of the key ''Beyond'' villains would appear, with Blight being the driving force behind it all as his steadily growing radiation is causing Gotham to rot at its roots, threatening the entire city.

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Based on ''Batman Beyond'' being one of the New 52 universes, there's a lot of potential for Terry McGinnis [=McGinnis=] to appear more in the spotlight again, though with Damien being his mentor and the equivalent of Barbara/Alfred in this game, with Bruce Wayne being officially retired and no longer active, though he would of course inevitably become involved in the story. It would/could take place underground, slightly inhibiting the Beyond suit's flight capabilities while still allowing for great mobility like in previous games. Talia (and possibly Ra's) reappears, having been resurrected via Lazarus Pit, but is corrupted to an extent because Clayface fell into the pit as well, resulting in Talia not only being driven insane but also having Clayface's powers and possibly multiple personalities after merging with Karlo (and maybe Ra's as well). All of the key ''Beyond'' villains would appear, with Blight being the driving force behind it all as his steadily growing radiation is causing Gotham to rot at its roots, threatening the entire city.
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* Doubt it, this Troper may be wrong but I'm fairly sure at leas once Batman has actively fought Red Hood to stop him killing Joker, if he sees standing by and letting someone else, someone very justified in wanting to, kill Joker MurderByInaction, he would likely see withholding medicine as the same.




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***Jossed it's not in Knight either.
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[[WMG: Rocksteady's next game will be ThePunisher]]

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[[WMG: Rocksteady's next game will be ThePunisher]]ComicBook/ThePunisher]]
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** While the Riddler isn't the big bad of Knight, he was the big bad of rhe novel that bridged the story of Arkham City and Arkham Knight called the Riddler's Gambit.
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Even if he is limited to PvP/ Multiplayer/ NewGamePlus. He'll also be a gamebreaker.

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Even if he is limited to PvP/ [[PlayerVersusPlayer PvP]]/ Multiplayer/ NewGamePlus. He'll also be a gamebreaker.



* What if there's no co-op, but PvP multiplayer options? You could have Batman, Joker (as seen in the BonusLevel of Asylum), Two-Face, Catwoman, etc., all competing.

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* What if there's no co-op, but PvP [[PlayerVersusPlayer PvP]] multiplayer options? You could have Batman, Joker (as seen in the BonusLevel of Asylum), Two-Face, Catwoman, etc., all competing.
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[[WMG: ''Arkham 3'' will be a Franchise/{{Batman}} / {{Spiderman}} crossover]]
Is it probable? Well... not really. Is it ''possible''? Next time you're playing as Catwoman, just imagine her with a Spiderman costume, a male's voice, and a web line instead of a whip--their movements and attacks would be practically identical (well, minus the kiss attack, anyway). If they had the rights to the character, the boys at Rocksteady could, at the very least, probably make an unlockable {{Spiderman}} skin if they wanted to.

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[[WMG: ''Arkham 3'' will be a Franchise/{{Batman}} / {{Spiderman}} Franchise/SpiderMan crossover]]
Is it probable? Well... not really. Is it ''possible''? Next time you're playing as Catwoman, just imagine her with a Spiderman costume, a male's voice, and a web line instead of a whip--their movements and attacks would be practically identical (well, minus the kiss attack, anyway). If they had the rights to the character, the boys at Rocksteady could, at the very least, probably make an unlockable {{Spiderman}} Spiderman skin if they wanted to.
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* Original poster here: [[spoiler: the images and teases for ''Knight''[='=]s "Season of Infamy" DLC confirmed that is indeed Croc's actual appearance, though the plot also reveals that it's just a further mutation.]]

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* Original poster here: [[spoiler: the images and teases for ''Knight''[='=]s "Season of Infamy" DLC confirmed that is indeed Croc's actual appearance, though the plot also reveals that it's just a further mutation.]]]]


[[WMG: The TITAN that reached Arkham City was an earlier, imperfect version.]]
Other than the first one all the TITAN thugs Batman faced in Asylum were, more or less, proportional, I.E their limbs were all around the same size, however the ones in Arkham city had certain limbs being skinnier than others, suggesting that the TITAN that was smuggled off the island was in fact a version between the version seen with the first Thug and the finished formula, one that fixed the fact that the first Thug died after about 3 minutes, but hadn't perfected the transformation yet.
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[[WMG: The Arkham Asylum and Arkham City games are in a divergent timeline from Chris Nolan's Film/TheDarkKnightSaga]]

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[[WMG: The Arkham Asylum and Arkham City games are in a divergent timeline from Chris Nolan's Film/TheDarkKnightSaga]]Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy]]
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[[WMG:: The new Film/StarTrek movie was never made in the Arkham-verse.]]

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[[WMG:: The new Film/StarTrek [[Film/StarTrek2009 Star Trek]] movie was never made in the Arkham-verse.]]
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[[WMG: Somehow {{Deadpool}} will show up.]]
* Deadpool is in the MarvelUniverse, so this is {{Jossed}} without any further explanation.

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[[WMG: Somehow {{Deadpool}} ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} will show up.]]
* Deadpool is in the MarvelUniverse, Franchise/MarvelUniverse, so this is {{Jossed}} without any further explanation.
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Ok, so this is more of an educated guess than a real wmg,since he has voiced [[WesternAnimation/BeastWars other characters]] [[SpiderManShatteredDimensions with similar voices]] before.

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Ok, so this is more of an educated guess than a real wmg,since he has voiced [[WesternAnimation/BeastWars other characters]] [[SpiderManShatteredDimensions [[VideoGame/SpiderManShatteredDimensions with similar voices]] before.
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[[WMG: RobPaulsen will lend a voice to the game.]]

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[[WMG: RobPaulsen Creator/RobPaulsen will lend a voice to the game.]]
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With Creator/MarkHamil hanging up the clown outfit who'd be a worthy replacement? How about [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer David]] [[Series/{{Angel}} Boreanaz?]] Angelus would play the role of TheJoker like a fiddle.

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With Creator/MarkHamil hanging up the clown outfit who'd be a worthy replacement? How about [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer David]] [[Series/{{Angel}} Boreanaz?]] Angelus would play the role of TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker like a fiddle.



** Oh I'm not saying he should be brought back. There's a lot of ways a third game could play out without him. I'm saying if, ''if'' he makes a return who would be a worthy replacement for the role. As far as [[spoiler: TheJoker's death]] is concerned, what does that mean for the third game? Well for those who played it Two Face came out alright, with the other gangs decimated he is potentially the biggest threat. There are a couple of directions that could be taken with this, for one Harvey's psych compared to Bruce who had become closer and closer to his ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns portrayal. With the film this year that might be inspiration to look at the idea of playing around with Harvey seeing what a monster he had become and Bruce in his state not listening. For another all of Gotham becoming a playing area with Scarecrow using his fear toxins is a popular theory, so the developers might listen and work that into the game. The super secret hint in the first game hinted at the second, the not so super secret hint in the second enforces the idea this might be the direction the game is heading. The point is the ending of the second game I'm sure will stick and sure it would be great if [[spoiler: Joker]] does appear again but it should stick. I just think based on his previous roles David Boreanaz would be great in the role. It probably couldn't happen, and even if it could it likely shouldn't. If it did though, he'd be a good choice.

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** Oh I'm not saying he should be brought back. There's a lot of ways a third game could play out without him. I'm saying if, ''if'' he makes a return who would be a worthy replacement for the role. As far as [[spoiler: TheJoker's The Joker's death]] is concerned, what does that mean for the third game? Well for those who played it Two Face came out alright, with the other gangs decimated he is potentially the biggest threat. There are a couple of directions that could be taken with this, for one Harvey's psych compared to Bruce who had become closer and closer to his ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns portrayal. With the film this year that might be inspiration to look at the idea of playing around with Harvey seeing what a monster he had become and Bruce in his state not listening. For another all of Gotham becoming a playing area with Scarecrow using his fear toxins is a popular theory, so the developers might listen and work that into the game. The super secret hint in the first game hinted at the second, the not so super secret hint in the second enforces the idea this might be the direction the game is heading. The point is the ending of the second game I'm sure will stick and sure it would be great if [[spoiler: Joker]] does appear again but it should stick. I just think based on his previous roles David Boreanaz would be great in the role. It probably couldn't happen, and even if it could it likely shouldn't. If it did though, he'd be a good choice.
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And he'll be [[MauriceLaMarche Mr. Freeze's]] [[TheDragon Dragon.]] Likely a LargeHam for better contrast.

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And he'll be [[MauriceLaMarche [[Creator/MauriceLaMarche Mr. Freeze's]] [[TheDragon Dragon.]] Likely a LargeHam for better contrast.
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** With GreyDelisle as Catwoman, the latter would be more likely.

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** With GreyDelisle Creator/GreyDelisle as Catwoman, the latter would be more likely.
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: The Joker arranged the MirrorRoutine with Clayface as an homage to DuckSoup]].]]

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[[WMG: [[spoiler: The Joker arranged the MirrorRoutine with Clayface as an homage to DuckSoup]].''Film/DuckSoup'']].]]
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[[WMG:DavidKaye will voice Hugo Strange]]

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[[WMG:DavidKaye [[WMG:Creator/DavidKaye will voice Hugo Strange]]
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Let's look at the facts: the Arkhamverse is the first good series of Batman games. It's a cash cow. It was planned to have sequels from the start. There's been no actual cancellation announcement. There's been a Franchise/{{Halo}}-level amount of tie-in merch. They've released two Game of The Year editions and they're porting it to the WiiU. Oh, and there's a DLC. Does this sound like something they're gonna leave unfinished?

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Let's look at the facts: the Arkhamverse is the first good series of Batman games. It's a cash cow. It was planned to have sequels from the start. There's been no actual cancellation announcement. There's been a Franchise/{{Halo}}-level ''Franchise/{{Halo}}''-level amount of tie-in merch. They've released two Game of The Year editions and they're porting it to the WiiU.UsefulNotes/WiiU. Oh, and there's a DLC. Does this sound like something they're gonna leave unfinished?
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* Her new voice actor is TaraStrong, it's either that or a [[WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents Fairly Odd Parents]] reference.

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* Her new voice actor is TaraStrong, Creator/TaraStrong, it's either that or a [[WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents Fairly Odd Parents]] reference.



[[WMG: [[TaraStrong Harley Quinn]] will act as the [[GreyDelisle Catwoman]] beating Batman while [[Creator/MarkHamill Joker]] looks on.]]

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[[WMG: [[TaraStrong [[Creator/TaraStrong Harley Quinn]] will act as the [[GreyDelisle [[Creator/GreyDelisle Catwoman]] beating Batman while [[Creator/MarkHamill Joker]] looks on.]]
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[[WMG: [[TaraStrong Harley Quinn]] will act as the [[GreyDelisle Catwoman]] beating Batman while [[MarkHamill Joker]] looks on.]]

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[[WMG: [[TaraStrong Harley Quinn]] will act as the [[GreyDelisle Catwoman]] beating Batman while [[MarkHamill [[Creator/MarkHamill Joker]] looks on.]]



With MarkHamil hanging up the clown outfit who'd be a worthy replacement? How about [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer David]] [[Series/{{Angel}} Boreanaz?]] Angelus would play the role of TheJoker like a fiddle.

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With MarkHamil Creator/MarkHamil hanging up the clown outfit who'd be a worthy replacement? How about [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer David]] [[Series/{{Angel}} Boreanaz?]] Angelus would play the role of TheJoker like a fiddle.
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Bare with me here, In Arkham City, the Riddler's games will be much more tough, so Bats would probably want some help. Now, [[BatDeduction who does The Riddler look and sound like?]] Creator/NeilPatrickHarris, [[BatDeduction of course! Now the only person who's "Better Than Neil", ergo better than The Riddler is]] [[NathanFillion Captain Hammer!]]

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Bare with me here, In Arkham City, the Riddler's games will be much more tough, so Bats would probably want some help. Now, [[BatDeduction who does The Riddler look and sound like?]] Creator/NeilPatrickHarris, [[BatDeduction of course! Now the only person who's "Better Than Neil", ergo better than The Riddler is]] [[NathanFillion [[Creator/NathanFillion Captain Hammer!]]

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