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* The 'weird horns' bit, at least, is {{Jossed}}; "To Cut A Woman's Hair" has him [[spoiler:finally take his hat off to [[TheReveal reveal]]...a head of [[HairOfGoldHeartOfGold glorious]] [[RapunzelHair rapunzel]] [[CompressedHair hair]]]]. And noodly limbs aren't [[PlanetOfHats exactly]] [[RubberHoseLimbs uncommon]] in Ooo.
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** Or a Alternative theory! Finn's family was part of a Government project to [[{{Videogame/Rage}} restore the world and government after the end!]] But they too late and Finn is one of the humans now frozen out.
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** Or a Alternative theory! Finn's family was part of a Government project to [[{{Videogame/Rage}} [[VideoGame/Rage2011 restore the world and government after the end!]] But they too late and Finn is one of the humans now frozen out.
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* Alternatively still, the pilot takes place in an alternate timeline parallel to both the main one and the Farmverse one, and Penn is Finn's ''younger'' brother.
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* Alternatively still, the pilot takes place in an alternate timeline parallel to both the main one and the Farmverse one, and Penn is Finn's ''younger'' brother.
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* Possibly Jossed. [[spoiler: Martin was a con-artist even ''before'' Finn was born, though he did perform a near HeroicSacrifice to save baby Finn when the two were lost at sea.]]
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* Jossed for numerous reasons. [[spoiler: Gumbald doesn't kill anyone, Finn was wholesale against the Gum War from the get-go and never "inevitably" kills anyone, Flame King remains with the chipmunks, Finn and Phoebe reconcile after some much-needed CharacterDevelopment and mutually choose to [[AmicableExes remain friends]], and Flame Princess is the current incarnation of the Fire Elemental, not a human empowered by her gem.]]
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* Uhh, no???
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* Jossed. [[spoiler: Martin and Minerva, Finn's parents, grew up on a small chain of islands a fair distance from Ooo, as their ancestors that fled in the aforementioned ''Stakes'' to get away from things like vampires and Rainicorns.]]
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* Jossed by the ''Islands'' mini-series. [[spoiler: Susan's only connection to Finn prior to the former's self-titled episode is that Susan was the Seeker sent to find baby Finn after he got lost at sea.]]
* Jossed by the ''Islands'' mini-series. [[spoiler: Susan's only connection to Finn prior to the former's self-titled episode is that Susan was the Seeker sent to find baby Finn after he got lost at sea.]]
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* Jossed, [[spoiler: though his alien shape-shifter parent does try a dark reverse on him after they meet.]]
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[[WMG: The whole land of Oo is Jake's dream (and Finn is dead).]]
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[[WMG: The whole land of Oo Ooo is Jake's dream (and Finn is dead).]]
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* Jossed. Finn is the only child of [[spoiler: Martin and Minerva of the human-populated Founder's Island.]]
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* Jossed. We skipped ahead to his seventeenth. [[spoiler: And all he got from that birthday was a DownerEnding.]]
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* [[spoiler: Jossed. Martin and Minera, his mother and father, came from a [[HiddenElfVillage hidden remnant of the human race on a distant chain of islands]]. Finn is on Ooo as a result of getting lost at sea as a baby.]]
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* Alternate theory: the pilot takes place in an alternate universe where Finn's baby brother in the Farmworld timeline was born in the main one and ''he'' was the one who [[spoiler:got lost at sea, traveling from Founder's Island to Ooo]]. Penn is that brother.
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[[WMG: What Finn spoke to at the end of "Billy's Bucket List" wasn't really Billy's spirit.]]
It was actually the Lich mentally manipulating Finn. Billy revealing that Finn's dad was alive and trapped in the Citadel originally came from the episode "The Lich", in which "Billy" was actually the Lich possessing his body. Not to mention, the one who seemed to benefit the most from the Citadel arc was the Lich himself, at least [[SpannerInTheWorks until Finn splashed him]] [[ReviveKillsZombie with Guardian blood]]. Billy's titular bucket list included a point of telling Finn "that thing". The ''real'' thing Billy wanted to tell him may have been that Finn's biological father was a criminal and not worth looking for or trying to be like. Or it very well could've been something completely unrelated, and the Lich used the ambiguity of that item on the list to manipulate Finn into trying to gain access to the Citadel.
[[WMG: What Finn spoke to at the end of "Billy's Bucket List" wasn't really Billy's spirit.]]
It was actually the Lich mentally manipulating Finn. Billy revealing that Finn's dad was alive and trapped in the Citadel originally came from the episode "The Lich", in which "Billy" was actually the Lich possessing his body. Not to mention, the one who seemed to benefit the most from the Citadel arc was the Lich himself, at least [[SpannerInTheWorks until Finn splashed him]] [[ReviveKillsZombie with Guardian blood]]. Billy's titular bucket list included a point of telling Finn "that thing". The ''real'' thing Billy wanted to tell him may have been that Finn's biological father was a criminal and not worth looking for or trying to be like. Or it very well could've been something completely unrelated, and the Lich used the ambiguity of that item on the list to manipulate Finn into trying to gain access to the Citadel.
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* Not unless that cabbage puts people in SuspendedAnimation, or else you're raping the timeline with a twelve-foot pole.
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* And as time passes, [[JadeColoredGlasses he will become more disillusioned]], [[TheEeyore refuse to go on adventures]], [[AgentScully ignore all of the fantastical creatures around him]], [[ImmoralNihilist and maybe even give up on life as a whole]].
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[[WMG:Finn will pull a FaceHeelTurn and go on a killing spree, leading to many a CrowningMomentofAwesome.]]
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[[WMG:Finn will pull a FaceHeelTurn and go on a killing spree, leading to many a CrowningMomentofAwesome.SugarWiki/MomentofAwesome.]]
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[[WMG: Finn will get a EarnYourHappyEnding-type ending.]]
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[[WMG: Finn will get a EarnYourHappyEnding-type ending.]]]]
[[WMG: When Finn turns 18, Marceline and Princess Bubblegum will let him "join" them in a threesome relationship.]]
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[[WMG: When Finn turns 18, Marceline and Princess Bubblegum will let him "join" them in a threesome relationship.]]
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And with that, Finn and Chloe depart for parts unknown, setting up a new webseries on the Cartoon Hangover called ''Adventure Time: Parts Unknown'', following Finn and Chloe's adventures not just in Ooo, but around the world, going to new and exotic locales, proving that no matter where they go, the adventure never ends.
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[[WMG: Finn will get a EarnYourHappyEnding-type ending.]]
[[WMG: Finn will get a EarnYourHappyEnding-type ending.]]
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The Lich was born from the Green Catalyst Comet and represents Mass Extinction. Finn was born from the Blue Catalyst Comet...which took the form of [[ButterflyOfDeathAndRebirth a butterfly]]. Finn is the only character, at this time, that's confirmed to {{Reincarnat|ion}}e when he dies ''despite'' the existence of an afterlife in this universe, and even if others have them, a LOT of focus is put on his reincarnations. Whereas the Lich represents Mass Extinction, Finn represents the opposite of death: rebirth, and the two are each other's opposite number. This also gives a bit of significance to how [[ReviveKillsZombie he ultimately defeats the Lich when you think about it.]]
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The Lich was born from the Green Catalyst Comet and represents Mass Extinction. Finn was born from the Blue Catalyst Comet...which took the form of [[ButterflyOfDeathAndRebirth a butterfly]]. Finn is the only character, at this time, that's confirmed to {{Reincarnat|ion}}e when he dies ''despite'' the existence of an afterlife in this universe, and even if others have them, a LOT of focus is put on his reincarnations. Whereas the Lich represents Mass Extinction, Finn represents the opposite of death: rebirth, and the two are each other's opposite number. This also gives a bit of significance to how [[ReviveKillsZombie he ultimately defeats the Lich when you think about it.]]]]
[[WMG: Finn's endgame.]]
In one of the final episodes, Huntress Wizard will be killed by Gumbald. Finn will be sent over the DespairEventHorizon, as he thinks of his past failed romances, and the reasons why:
* Princess Bubblegum is too old for him.
* He and Marceline are just friends, and Marceline seems to have the hots for Bubblegum.
* Flame Princess friendzoned him and would likely attack him if he ever tried hitting on her again.
* Canyon is too big for him.
* Huntress Wizard is dead.
* And finally, Fionna is fictional.
After he inevitably kills Gumbald, Finn is left to himself, as he makes a memorial for Huntress Wizard. The last episode will deal with Finn finally finding true love. He learns that Marceline and PB are headed off on a world tour (while Lemongrab 3 is left in charge), and Canyon is dead, one of Gumbald's thousands of victims. He breaks down crying, wondering if he is forever destined to be alone in the world, or if he is perhaps gay (yes, they will say the word "gay" on television). But, just as it looks like he's about to resign himself to eternal single-ness, he hears noise coming from the direction of the Fire Kingdom. Heading over to see what's going on, he sees angry mobs descending on the palace. Getting a Flame Shield from Flambo, he finds that the people are trying to overthrow Flame Princess for her total honesty laws, and leading the charge is Flame King, who has become discontent with being King of the Chipmunks, even killing Bun Bun. Finn enters the throne room and puts himself between FP and the mob. Heated words are exchanged, until Flame King lets slip his big secret: FP isn't his daughter.
She was originally a human who he kidnapped from a family of mages after his wife died and no other dame would marry him. His ultimate goal was to make FP as angry as possible from being locked up in a lamp, then unleash her on the world to lead his armies to the total conquest of the planet. He also reveals that HE was the reason Finn manipulated FP and Ice King into fighting, using Flame Lord to subtly influence his actions and ultimately break him and FP, all because FK hated him. Learning this, Finn and FP both attack him, easily defeating him, before FP delivers the killing blow. The mob swarms them, though, but Finn manages to make a path, and they escape, while the Fire People fight amongst themselves over who should be the new king.
Outside the kingdom, FP starts ripping off her royal garb in fury, including the gem on her forehead. Certain that this was the source of her power, she and Finn go to find LSP, who uses her lumps to counteract the fire magic that had seeped into FPs blood.
Her humanity restored (and having to find something to cover herself up because her dress was made of fire), she remembers everything: her name is Chloe, her family was the most respected mage clan in Ooo, and she was destined to become the most powerful of them all. She also remembers having playdates with a young boy...adopted by dogs. It is then Finn and Chloe learn they were childhood friends, but they barely remember.
Finn then apologizes for pitting her against Ice King, but Chloe says that he pitted ''Phoebe'' against Ice King, as she considers herself and Phoebe two separate entities. Chloe then apologizes for allowing one bad experience to let all the good times they had had be rendered non-existent. Just as they're about to kiss, Jake Jr. runs up with terrible news.
The scene cuts to the Tree Fort, where Jake's health is failing due to being very old in dog-years. After saying his goodbyes to everyone, he passes away peacefully. Finn feels he can no longer live at the Tree Fort, and decides to leave, while Jake Jr. and Viola move in.
Finn is about to set off on a long journey to no place in particular, but Chloe insists she come with him, to which Finn heartily agrees. This time, they actually kiss, without any interruptions or threats to the planet. As Finn looks to the night sky, he sees Jake's smiling face in the stars. After visiting all of the places he had gone, all of the lives he had touched and transformed, ending with the Candy Kingdom, he and Chloe reach the tree where he and Jake had first seen Lady Rainicorn crying, where it all began.
And with that, Finn and Chloe depart for parts unknown, setting up a new webseries on the Cartoon Hangover called ''Adventure Time: Parts Unknown'', following Finn and Chloe's adventures not just in Ooo, but around the world, going to new and exotic locales, proving that no matter where they go, the adventure never ends.
[[WMG: Finn's endgame.]]
In one of the final episodes, Huntress Wizard will be killed by Gumbald. Finn will be sent over the DespairEventHorizon, as he thinks of his past failed romances, and the reasons why:
* Princess Bubblegum is too old for him.
* He and Marceline are just friends, and Marceline seems to have the hots for Bubblegum.
* Flame Princess friendzoned him and would likely attack him if he ever tried hitting on her again.
* Canyon is too big for him.
* Huntress Wizard is dead.
* And finally, Fionna is fictional.
After he inevitably kills Gumbald, Finn is left to himself, as he makes a memorial for Huntress Wizard. The last episode will deal with Finn finally finding true love. He learns that Marceline and PB are headed off on a world tour (while Lemongrab 3 is left in charge), and Canyon is dead, one of Gumbald's thousands of victims. He breaks down crying, wondering if he is forever destined to be alone in the world, or if he is perhaps gay (yes, they will say the word "gay" on television). But, just as it looks like he's about to resign himself to eternal single-ness, he hears noise coming from the direction of the Fire Kingdom. Heading over to see what's going on, he sees angry mobs descending on the palace. Getting a Flame Shield from Flambo, he finds that the people are trying to overthrow Flame Princess for her total honesty laws, and leading the charge is Flame King, who has become discontent with being King of the Chipmunks, even killing Bun Bun. Finn enters the throne room and puts himself between FP and the mob. Heated words are exchanged, until Flame King lets slip his big secret: FP isn't his daughter.
She was originally a human who he kidnapped from a family of mages after his wife died and no other dame would marry him. His ultimate goal was to make FP as angry as possible from being locked up in a lamp, then unleash her on the world to lead his armies to the total conquest of the planet. He also reveals that HE was the reason Finn manipulated FP and Ice King into fighting, using Flame Lord to subtly influence his actions and ultimately break him and FP, all because FK hated him. Learning this, Finn and FP both attack him, easily defeating him, before FP delivers the killing blow. The mob swarms them, though, but Finn manages to make a path, and they escape, while the Fire People fight amongst themselves over who should be the new king.
Outside the kingdom, FP starts ripping off her royal garb in fury, including the gem on her forehead. Certain that this was the source of her power, she and Finn go to find LSP, who uses her lumps to counteract the fire magic that had seeped into FPs blood.
Her humanity restored (and having to find something to cover herself up because her dress was made of fire), she remembers everything: her name is Chloe, her family was the most respected mage clan in Ooo, and she was destined to become the most powerful of them all. She also remembers having playdates with a young boy...adopted by dogs. It is then Finn and Chloe learn they were childhood friends, but they barely remember.
Finn then apologizes for pitting her against Ice King, but Chloe says that he pitted ''Phoebe'' against Ice King, as she considers herself and Phoebe two separate entities. Chloe then apologizes for allowing one bad experience to let all the good times they had had be rendered non-existent. Just as they're about to kiss, Jake Jr. runs up with terrible news.
The scene cuts to the Tree Fort, where Jake's health is failing due to being very old in dog-years. After saying his goodbyes to everyone, he passes away peacefully. Finn feels he can no longer live at the Tree Fort, and decides to leave, while Jake Jr. and Viola move in.
Finn is about to set off on a long journey to no place in particular, but Chloe insists she come with him, to which Finn heartily agrees. This time, they actually kiss, without any interruptions or threats to the planet. As Finn looks to the night sky, he sees Jake's smiling face in the stars. After visiting all of the places he had gone, all of the lives he had touched and transformed, ending with the Candy Kingdom, he and Chloe reach the tree where he and Jake had first seen Lady Rainicorn crying, where it all began.
And with that, Finn and Chloe depart for parts unknown, setting up a new webseries on the Cartoon Hangover called ''Adventure Time: Parts Unknown'', following Finn and Chloe's adventures not just in Ooo, but around the world, going to new and exotic locales, proving that no matter where they go, the adventure never ends.
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The Mushroom War and it's aftermath left only the strongest or smartest humans to survive, until eventually all remaining humans had one or both of these traits. This is why Finn can [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu? [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu defeat monsters many times his size.]]
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Finn and the show itself are too GenreSavvy not to, and they've been building up to it since...well, really ever since they cast [[CrossDressingVoices a boy rather than a woman]] to voice him.
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Martin is a cosmic-level criminal, it's possible the fuzz may have separated him with his kid, and didn't think what would happen to the baby. Of course, [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk this doesn't mean he's sympathetic at all]], since he doesn't care whether he's with Finn or not, [[AssholeVictim and got locked up for something big.]]
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Martin is a cosmic-level criminal, it's possible the fuzz may have separated him with his kid, and didn't think what would happen to the baby. Of course, [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk this doesn't mean he's sympathetic at all]], since he doesn't care whether he's with Finn or not, [[AssholeVictim and got locked up for something big.]]
[[WMG:Finn is the AnthropomorphicPersonification of Rebirth.]]
The Lich was born from the Green Catalyst Comet and represents Mass Extinction. Finn was born from the Blue Catalyst Comet...which took the form of [[ButterflyOfDeathAndRebirth a butterfly]]. Finn is the only character, at this time, that's confirmed to {{Reincarnat|ion}}e when he dies ''despite'' the existence of an afterlife in this universe, and even if others have them, a LOT of focus is put on his reincarnations. Whereas the Lich represents Mass Extinction, Finn represents the opposite of death: rebirth, and the two are each other's opposite number. This also gives a bit of significance to how [[ReviveKillsZombie he ultimately defeats the Lich when you think about it.]]
[[WMG:Finn is the AnthropomorphicPersonification of Rebirth.]]
The Lich was born from the Green Catalyst Comet and represents Mass Extinction. Finn was born from the Blue Catalyst Comet...which took the form of [[ButterflyOfDeathAndRebirth a butterfly]]. Finn is the only character, at this time, that's confirmed to {{Reincarnat|ion}}e when he dies ''despite'' the existence of an afterlife in this universe, and even if others have them, a LOT of focus is put on his reincarnations. Whereas the Lich represents Mass Extinction, Finn represents the opposite of death: rebirth, and the two are each other's opposite number. This also gives a bit of significance to how [[ReviveKillsZombie he ultimately defeats the Lich when you think about it.]]
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[[WMG: Alternative comet theory]]
The very comet that hit a thousand years ago was Finn's first life. The giant crater was the result of the Mushroom War, rather than a Catalyst Comet. The comet was actually there to ''save'' the world, rather than destroy it. It was this comet that stopped the Lich a thousand years ago in some form, [[SealedEvilInACan taking him out]] for a long enough time for Billy to be born and stop him. With the Lich out of the picture, the comet continued reincarnating until it reaches its current form as Finn.
The very comet that hit a thousand years ago was Finn's first life. The giant crater was the result of the Mushroom War, rather than a Catalyst Comet. The comet was actually there to ''save'' the world, rather than destroy it. It was this comet that stopped the Lich a thousand years ago in some form, [[SealedEvilInACan taking him out]] for a long enough time for Billy to be born and stop him. With the Lich out of the picture, the comet continued reincarnating until it reaches its current form as Finn.
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* Finn's [[http://41.media.tumblr.com/b4196f0b4d0bbbd64cdebd95048d44d0/tumblr_inline_nlzih9GPxH1slz4ha_500.png comet]] from his [[http://38.media.tumblr.com/177803dd2ef1c049de42e9a5d5180593/tumblr_inline_nis1glb7Yg1qzjzhu.gif past-life regression sequence]] flashback in "The Vault" while the Lich's comet is [[http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/8/8c/S6e24_Horned_comet.png/revision/latest?cb=20150117191936 green and has horns]]. Making this ''highly'' unlikely. Also if the Lich is currently alive, how can Finn be alive at the same time if one is the past life of the other?
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* Finn's [[http://41.media.tumblr.com/b4196f0b4d0bbbd64cdebd95048d44d0/tumblr_inline_nlzih9GPxH1slz4ha_500.png comet]] from his [[http://38.media.tumblr.com/177803dd2ef1c049de42e9a5d5180593/tumblr_inline_nis1glb7Yg1qzjzhu.gif past-life regression sequence]] flashback sequence]]/flashback in "The Vault" is blue, while the Lich's comet is [[http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/8/8c/S6e24_Horned_comet.png/revision/latest?cb=20150117191936 green and has horns]]. Making this ''highly'' unlikely. Also if the Lich is currently alive, how can Finn be alive at the same time if one is the past life of the other?
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* Finn's [[http://41.media.tumblr.com/b4196f0b4d0bbbd64cdebd95048d44d0/tumblr_inline_nlzih9GPxH1slz4ha_500.png comet]] from his [[http://38.media.tumblr.com/177803dd2ef1c049de42e9a5d5180593/tumblr_inline_nis1glb7Yg1qzjzhu.gif past-life regression sequence]] flashback in "The Vault" while the Lich's comet is [[http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/8/8c/S6e24_Horned_comet.png/revision/latest?cb=20150117191936 green and has horns]]. Making this ''highly'' unlikely. Also if the Lich is currently alive, how can Finn be alive at the same time if one is the past life of the other?
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* Gunther does [[https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/3d/bc/91/3dbc91e6192b9d4babde4a827af4f4bf.jpg not appear]] in Finn's flashback of past lives. Nor in his talks to the catalyst comet in the Season 6 finale.
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*** However [[https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e15/10919188_1618983418362232_502114151_n.jpg humans from just after the war]], [[http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/3/3d/Young_Ice_King_without_crown.png/revision/latest?cb=20121119112654 Simon]], [[http://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/chars/char_45554.jpg Marcy]], [[https://i.ytimg.com/vi/W39MXtT1mGM/maxresdefault.jpg Betty]], and [[http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/d/d2/Marcelinesmomstakes.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151117031009 Marcy's mom]] are all without noses in flash-backs. So while some things are mutation, but the nose thing might not be one of them. What's confusing is the lack of noses on the normal humans in the AT Universe contradicts the noses from the Farmworld Universe. Making this all very muddy and confusing.
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*** However [[https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e15/10919188_1618983418362232_502114151_n.jpg humans from just after the war]], [[http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/3/3d/Young_Ice_King_without_crown.png/revision/latest?cb=20121119112654 Simon]], [[http://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/chars/char_45554.jpg Marcy]], [[https://i.ytimg.com/vi/W39MXtT1mGM/maxresdefault.jpg Betty]], and [[http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/d/d2/Marcelinesmomstakes.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151117031009 Marcy's mom]] are all without noses in flash-backs. flashbacks. So while some things are mutation, but the nose thing might not be one of them. What's confusing is the lack of noses on the normal humans in the AT Universe contradicts the noses from the Farmworld Universe. Making this all very muddy and confusing.
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** {{Jossed}} from "Simon and Marcy" we know both of them were survivors of the Mushroom War. In "Betty" we find out Betty is a survivor...sort of [[spoiler: does coming through a magical portal to the future count as surviving?]] and thanks to "Stakes" we know that [[spoiler: some humans did survive the Mushroom War]] but either fled or died out in the subsequent generations. We also know who Finn's father is starting in Season 6.
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* Highly unlikely as Jake was incredibly terrified of her in the first season and also didn't seem to know squat about vampires (which you think he would've learned about being near her all the time).
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* Totally {{Jossed}} now as we have seen Bubblegum's parents (sort of) she spawned from the Mother-gum. Also from both "The Vault" and WordOfGod we know PB is hundreds of years old (according to [[http://adventuretime.wikia.com/wiki/Adventure_Time:_Explore_the_Dungeon_Because_I_DON%E2%80%99T_KNOW! "Adventure Time Explore the Dungeon Because I Don't Know"]] which is canon according to Penn she is 827)
** {{Jossed}} due to the above and that in "Stakes" we learn the reason humans adopted the animal headdress [[spoiler: to protect themselves from man-eating predators (like Rainicorns and Vampires).]]
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* He's defeated the Lich more than once at this point. Fought off a comet and the ancient evil Orgalorg, completed every single heroic act from [[http://adventuretime.wikia.com/wiki/Billy's_Song Billy's song]], rescued princesses, was found worthy of the Enchiridion, among so many other things. How has he not lived up to that title?
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* Not neccesarily a plot hole- even if Susan ''was'' his mother, his father wasn't living amongst the FishPeople...
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* Not neccesarily necessarily a plot hole- even if Susan ''was'' his mother, his father wasn't living amongst the FishPeople...
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* The comics {{Retcon}} the pilot by having Finn say he loved pens so much he had people call him "Penn" until [[spoiler: future him]] told him it was lame and to stop. Though these may or may not be canon, so YMMV on if you take this as truth.
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*** This WordOfGod was confirmed canonically in [[http://adventuretime.wikia.com/wiki/Joshua_and_Margaret_Investigations "Joshua and Margaret Investigations"]] that Joshua and Margaret are the parents. [[spoiler: although in the case of Jake it's a bit more...complicated]] In [[http://adventuretime.wikia.com/wiki/Jermaine_(episode) "Jermaine"]] it is confirmed that Finn was raised in the same house alongside Jake and Jermaine. In fact in [["Dad's Dungeon"]](http://adventuretime.wikia.com/wiki/Dad's_Dungeon) you can literally see a [[http://watchplayread.com/files/2012/02/HoloDad_JakeFinn.png holo-recording of Joshua with a baby Jake and Finn.]]
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*** However [[https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e15/10919188_1618983418362232_502114151_n.jpg humans from just after the war]], [[http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/3/3d/Young_Ice_King_without_crown.png/revision/latest?cb=20121119112654 Simon]], [[http://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/chars/char_45554.jpg Marcy]], [[https://i.ytimg.com/vi/W39MXtT1mGM/maxresdefault.jpg Betty]], and [[http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/d/d2/Marcelinesmomstakes.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151117031009 Marcy's mom]] are all without noses in flash-backs. So while some things are mutation, but the nose thing might not be one of them. What's confusing is the lack of noses on the normal humans in the AT Universe contradicts the noses from the Farmworld Universe. Making this all very muddy and confusing.
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** In ''Stakes'' it is confirmed that at least ''part'' of the reason humans are extinct (and wear animal hats) is because of Rainicorns eating them.
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* {{Jossed}}. In "Joshua and Margaret Investigations" we see Jake's true origin. (Which is almost as weird).
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...will be another boy. And the show will pretty much give a massive middle finger to the censors in making it a thing.
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...will be another boy. And the show will pretty much give a massive middle finger to the censors in making it a thing.thing.
[[WMG: Finn's dad was a FallenHero, or BitchInSheepsClothing.]]
Billy's spirit thought it was a good idea for Finn to meet up with his real dad, despite Martin being a Class A scumbag. Why would Billy have Finn risk being locked up in the Crystal Citadel? Because Billy honestly thought Martin was worth it. Martin was either the world's greatest FakeUltimateHero, or a genuine good guy [[FallenHero who became evil without Billy knowing.]] As such, Billy believed he was wrongly imprisoned, or was simply in denial at the idea of [[BrokenPedestal a great man like Martin being terrible.]] He held this belief even after his death, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero which ended up leading Finn astray.]]
[[WMG: Finn's dad didn't abandon him by choice.]]
Martin is a cosmic-level criminal, it's possible the fuzz may have separated him with his kid, and didn't think what would happen to the baby. Of course, [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk this doesn't mean he's sympathetic at all]], since he doesn't care whether he's with Finn or not, [[AssholeVictim and got locked up for something big.]]
[[WMG: Finn's dad was a FallenHero, or BitchInSheepsClothing.]]
Billy's spirit thought it was a good idea for Finn to meet up with his real dad, despite Martin being a Class A scumbag. Why would Billy have Finn risk being locked up in the Crystal Citadel? Because Billy honestly thought Martin was worth it. Martin was either the world's greatest FakeUltimateHero, or a genuine good guy [[FallenHero who became evil without Billy knowing.]] As such, Billy believed he was wrongly imprisoned, or was simply in denial at the idea of [[BrokenPedestal a great man like Martin being terrible.]] He held this belief even after his death, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero which ended up leading Finn astray.]]
[[WMG: Finn's dad didn't abandon him by choice.]]
Martin is a cosmic-level criminal, it's possible the fuzz may have separated him with his kid, and didn't think what would happen to the baby. Of course, [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk this doesn't mean he's sympathetic at all]], since he doesn't care whether he's with Finn or not, [[AssholeVictim and got locked up for something big.]]
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* ''Franchise/AdventureTime'' is a perpendicular universe to Futurama. Magic/mystical elements are known to exist in Futurama(Scruffy is a zombie), and [[ForWantOfANail the nail]] is that Mildred Fry never existed, thus preventing both Fry's existence and a paradox from cancelling the MyOwnGrandpa scenario. For all we know [[ETGaveUsWiFi Bender's ass gave us wi-fi]], so more research into magic began. Said magic, of course, led to the Mushroom War. Magic is still present; Applied Cryonics were based off the freezing powers of the Ice Crown, and Simon could've been the one who created it in the first place. The head jars are Magitek
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* ''Franchise/AdventureTime'' is a perpendicular universe to Futurama. Magic/mystical elements are known to exist in Futurama(Scruffy is a zombie), and [[ForWantOfANail the nail]] is that Mildred Fry never existed, thus preventing both Fry's existence and a paradox from cancelling the MyOwnGrandpa scenario. For all we know [[ETGaveUsWiFi Bender's ass gave us wi-fi]], so more research into magic began. Said magic, of course, led to the Mushroom War. Magic is still present; Applied Cryonics were based off the freezing powers of the Ice Crown, and Simon could've been the one who created it in the first place. The head jars are Magitek
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The Mushroom War and it's aftermath left only the strongest or smartest humans to survive, until eventually all remaining humans had one or both of these traits. This is why Finn can [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulu? defeat monsters many times his size.]]
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The Mushroom War and it's aftermath left only the strongest or smartest humans to survive, until eventually all remaining humans had one or both of these traits. This is why Finn can [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulu? [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu? defeat monsters many times his size.]]
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The Mushroom War and it's aftermath left only the strongest or smartest humans to survive, until eventually all remaining humans had one or both of these traits. This is why Finn can [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulu defeat monsters many times his size.]]
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The Mushroom War and it's aftermath left only the strongest or smartest humans to survive, until eventually all remaining humans had one or both of these traits. This is why Finn can [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulu [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulu? defeat monsters many times his size.]]
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[[WMG: Finn's Hat]]
In "Stakes," it's shown that post-war humans wore animal hats like Finn to protect against vampires, but since Marceline is the only vampire left in Ooo, why does Finn still have one? Answer: wearing them became traditional and then instinctual and the original reason has been forgotten. Finn had one as a baby because of this.
* As an extension of this, the Hyoomans have the same hats because their species mutated from these same humans.
In "Stakes," it's shown that post-war humans wore animal hats like Finn to protect against vampires, but since Marceline is the only vampire left in Ooo, why does Finn still have one? Answer: wearing them became traditional and then instinctual and the original reason has been forgotten. Finn had one as a baby because of this.
* As an extension of this, the Hyoomans have the same hats because their species mutated from these same humans.
