History VoodooShark / StarWars

* When Jabba the Hutt plans to [[FedToTheBeast feed the heroes to the Sarlacc]] in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', he claims that its victims are (somehow) [[FateWorseThanDeath kept alive in its belly and slowly digested over the course of a thousand years]]. In order to explain how a person could survive in the Sarlaac's gut ''at all'' (let alone for a thousand years) supplemental materials published as part of the old [=EU=] explained that the creature injects nutrients into its prey via feeding tentacles in its stomach, and it slows down their metabolism so that they live as long as possible [[AndIMustScream while trapped in endless agony]]. While this is certainly horrifying, it poses the obvious problem that the Sarlaac would basically have to feed its own food, meaning that it wouldn't gain any nutrients from eating them (particularly if it took a thousand years just to digest a human-sized creature) and would starve unless it [[PerpetualMotionMonster doesn't need to consume nutrients to survive]]--in which case it shouldn't have to eat ''at all.'' A better solution would have been to claim that Jabba was exaggerating, in order to make being eaten alive by the Sarlaac sound more horrifying then it needs to be. Which, considering Jabba the Hutt is a sadist, wouldn't be out of the question.

* A common question about ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' is why the heroes were seemingly okay with leaving Shmi Skywalker in slavery. While circumstances may have forced Qui-Gon and Padmé to leave her behind when they initially left Tatooine with Anakin, it's hard to believe that neither the Jedi Order nor the Queen of Naboo would have had the resources to secure her freedom sometime after they left (either by forcing Watto to set her free or simply buying her), making them seem rather callous for abandoning her. ''[[Literature/StarWarsQueensShadow Queen's Shadow]]'' attempts to address this by showing that Padmé actually ''did'' devote considerable time and effort to freeing slaves on Tatooine between the events of ''The Phantom Menace'' and ''Film/AttackOfTheClones''--but when she tried to free Shmi, she discovered that Cliegg Lars had already freed her. But this doesn't track at all with the events of ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'', where Anakin returns to Tatooine for the first time in 10 years to find his mother, and Padmé (who's with him at the time) never says a word about any of this, leaving him to track down Watto to learn Shmi's last known whereabouts, which leads him to Cliegg; if Padmé knew that Shmi was free (and knew ''who freed her''), she could have saved Anakin an awful lot of effort and worry by telling him that.

** The book ''Literature/ShadowOfTheSith'' to its credit does try to answer as many of these questions as possible: Rey's parents ''didn't'' sell Rey into slavery, they left her with Unkar Plutt on the belief it would be a temporary arrangement while they shook Ochi's tail (having stolen his starship from him in a previous encounter, which is why Rey knows her parents are on the ship and shouts for them to come back despite it being claimed to be Ochi's ship), and that while Plutt was a slimy jerk, they could at least trust him to keep his word until they got back. Unfortunately Ochi captured them in orbit, and being in a very unstable state of mind killed them, before taking his ship to Pasaana, the planet Rey finds his ship, his droid D-O, and his corpse on in ''Rise of Skywalker'', having fallen for a BatmanGambit from Rey's mom of bluffing that Rey ''wasn't'' on Jakku, figuring Ochi was too mad and stupid to double-check (and indeed, when Ochi's flunkies tried pointing this out, he killed them). Unkar just took advantage of the fact they didn't come back to his own gain. Kylo Ren's remark about the "pauper's grave" turns out to be an outright lie; Luke and Lando found their corpses and gave them a respectful burial, but since they didn't know Rey existed they never went looking for her.

** If Snoke was an artificial human created by Palpatine to do his bidding, then why do Snoke and Palpatine clearly have ''different'' agendas? One of Snoke's primary goals in ''Film/TheLastJedi'' is clearly to kill Rey, while ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' claims that Palpatine's primary goal is to ''[[GrandTheftMe possess]]'' her. While it's possible Snoke was TheStarscream to Palpatine, nothing else in the movies even remotely hints at this. What further complicates this is that at first, Palpatine claimed he did in fact want to kill Rey, and tasked Kylo Ren with bringing her to him because of this, it was only when she came to him on her own that he revealed he wanted to possess her. He only ended up deciding to kill her after all because when she refused to [[StrikeMeDownWithAllOfYourHatred strike him down]] as part of the ritual and the redeemed Kylo Ren / Ben Solo came to help, he drained their Force dyad and [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness no longer needed her alive]].

* When Jabba the Hutt plans to [[FedToTheBeast feed the heroes to the Sarlacc]] in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', he claims that its victims are (somehow) [[FateWorseThanDeath kept alive in its belly and slowly digested over the course of a thousand years]]. In order to explain how a person could survive in the Sarlaac's gut ''at all'' (let alone for a thousand years) supplemental materials published as part of the old [=EU=] explained that the creature injects nutrients into its prey via feeding tentacles in its stomach, and it slows down their metabolism so that they live as long as possible [[AndIMustScream while trapped in endless agony]]. While this is certainly horrifying, it poses the obvious problem that the Sarlaac would basically have to feed its own food, meaning that it wouldn't gain any nutrients from eating them (particularly if it took a thousand years just to digest a human-sized creature) and would starve unless it [[PerpetualMotionMonster doesn't need to consume nutrients to survive]]--in which case it shouldn't have to eat ''at all.'' A better solution would have been to claim that Jabba was exaggerating, in order to make being eaten alive by the Sarlacc sound more horrifying then it needs to be. Which, considering Jabba the Hutt is a sadist, wouldn't be out of the question.

* When Jabba the Hutt plans to [[FedToTheBeast feed the heroes to the Sarlacc]] in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', he claims that its victims are (somehow) [[FateWorseThanDeath kept alive in its belly and slowly digested over the course of a thousand years]]. In order to explain how a person could survive in the Sarlaac's gut ''at all'' (let alone for a thousand years) supplemental materials published as part of the old [=EU=] explained that the creature injects nutrients into its prey via feeding tentacles in its stomach, and it slows down their metabolism so that they live as long as possible [[AndIMustScream while trapped in endless agony]]. While this is certainly horrifying, it poses the obvious problem that the Sarlaac would basically have to feed its own food, meaning that it wouldn't gain any nutrients from eating them (particularly if it took a thousand years just to digest a human-sized creature) and would starve unless it [[PerpetualMotionMonster doesn't need to consume nutrients to survive]]--in which case it shouldn't have to eat ''at all.'' A better solution would have been to claim that Jabba was exaggerating, in order to make being eaten alive by the Sarlacc sound more horrifying then it needs to be. Which, considering Jabba the Hut is a sadist, wouldn't be out of the question.

* A common question about ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' is why the heroes were seemingly okay with leaving Shmi Skywalker in slavery. While circumstances may have forced Qui-Gon and Padmé to leave her behind when they initially left Tatooine with Anakin, it's hard to believe that neither the Jedi Order nor the Queen of Naboo would have had the resources to secure her freedom sometime after they left (either by forcing Watto to set her free or simply buying her), making them seem rather callous for abandoning her. ''[[Literature/StarWarsQueensShadow Queen's Shadow]]'' attempts to address this by showing that Padmé actually ''did'' devote considerable time and effort to freeing slaves on Tatooine between the events of ''The Phantom Menace'' and ''Film/AttackOfTheClones''--but when she tried to free Shmi, she discovered that Cliegg Lars had already freed her. But this doesn't track at all with the events of ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'', where Anakin returns to Tatooine for the first time in 10 years to find his mother, and Padmé (who's with him at the time) never says a word about any of this, leaving him to track down Watto to learn Shmi's last known whereabouts, who points him to Cliegg; if Padmé knew that Shmi was free (and knew ''who freed her''), she could have saved Anakin an awful lot of effort and worry by telling him that.

** Most prior ExpandedUniverse works in the current {{canon}} (including the comic book miniseries ''ComicBook/StarWarsShatteredEmpire'') claim that Palpatine had plans in place to [[SaltTheEarth completely destroy the Empire]] in the event of his death to prevent the Rebel Alliance from seizing any of his resources called Operation: Cinder). But why would he do that if he was just planning to bring himself back from the dead anyway? Supplementary material was left to provide the answer yet again: bringing himself back to full life and power would take a long time and he didn't want anyone else who wasn't him or his rightful heir Vader (or Luke had he killed Vader and become Palpatine's new heir) taking over the Empire and potentially turning it against him during that time.

** Most prior ExpandedUniverse works in the current {{canon}} (including the comic book miniseries ''ComicBook/StarWarsShatteredEmpire'') claim that Palpatine had plans in place to [[SaltTheEarth completely destroy the Empire]] in the event of his death to prevent the Rebel Alliance from seizing any of his resources. But why would he do that if he was just planning to bring himself back from the dead anyway? Supplementary material was left to provide the answer yet again: bringing himself back to full life and power would take a long time and he didn't want anyone else who wasn't him or his rightful heir Vader (or Luke had he killed Vader and become Palpatine's new heir) taking over the Empire and potentially turning it against him during that time.

* When Jabba the Hutt plans to [[FedToTheBeast feed the heroes to the Sarlacc]] in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', he claims that its victims are (somehow) [[FateWorseThanDeath kept alive in its belly and slowly digested over the course of a thousand years]]. In order to explain how a person could survive in the Sarlaac's gut ''at all'' (let alone for a thousand years) supplemental materials published as part of the old [=EU=] explained that the creature injects nutrients into its prey via feeding tentacles in its stomach, and it slows down their metabolism so that they live as long as possible [[AndIMustScream while trapped in endless agony]]. While this is certainly horrifying, it poses the obvious problem that the Sarlaac would basically have to feed its own food, meaning that it wouldn't gain any nutrients from eating them (particularly if it took a thousand years just to digest a human-sized creature) and would starve unless it [[PerpetualMotionMonster doesn't need to consume nutrients to survive]]--in which case it shouldn't have to eat ''at all.''

* A common question about ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' is why the heroes were seemingly okay with leaving Shmi Skywalker in slavery. While circumstances may have forced Qui-Gon and Padmé to leave her behind when they initially left Tatooine with Anakin, it's hard to believe that neither the Jedi Order nor the Queen of Naboo would have had the resources to secure her freedom sometime after they left (either by forcing Watto to set her free or simply buying her), making them seem rather callous for abandoning her. ''[[Literature/StarWarsQueensShadow Queen's Shadow]]'' attempts to address this by showing that Padmé actually ''did'' devote considerable time and effort to freeing slaves on Tatooine between the events of ''The Phantom Menace'' and ''Film/AttackOfTheClones''--but when she tried to free Shmi, she discovered that Cliegg Lars had already freed her. But this doesn't track at all with the events of ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'', where Anakin returns to Tatooine for the first time in 10 years to find his mother, and Padmé (who's with him at the time) never says a word about any of this, leaving him to track down Watto to learn Shmi's last known whereabouts; if Padmé knew that Shmi was free (and knew ''who freed her''), she could have saved Anakin an awful lot of effort and worry by telling him that.

** If Snoke was an artificial human created by Palpatine to do his bidding, then why do Snoke and Palpatine clearly have ''different'' agendas? One of Snoke's primary goals in ''Film/TheLastJedi'' is clearly to kill Rey, while ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' claims that Palpatine's primary goal is to ''[[GrandTheftMe possess]]'' her. While it's possible Snoke was TheStarscream to Palpatine, nothing else in the movies even remotely hints at this. What further complicates this is that at first, Palpatine claimed he did in fact want to kill Rey, and tasked Kylo Ren with bringing her to him because of this, it was only when she came to him on her own that he revealed he wanted to possess her. He only ended up deciding to kill her after all because when she refused to [[StrikeMeDownWithAllYourHatred stike him down]] as part of the ritual and the redeemed Kylo Ren / Ben Solo came to help, he drained their Force dyad and [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness no longer needed her alive]].

** If Snoke was an artificial human created by Palpatine to do his bidding, then why do Snoke and Palpatine clearly have ''different'' agendas? One of Snoke's primary goals in ''Film/TheLastJedi'' is clearly to kill Rey, while ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' claims that Palpatine's primary goal is to ''[[GrandTheftMe possess]]'' her. While it's possible Snoke was TheStarscream to Palpatine, nothing else in the movies even remotely hints at this.

** Some of the pre-[=TROS=] ExpandedUniverse books [[ContinuitySnarl outright say that Snoke is his own person and unaffiliated with Palpatine,]] and even say that he's older than the Empire and watched the fall of the Republic from behind the scenes. Obviously, this can't be the case if he was created ''by'' Palpatine at some point between the Original and Sequel Trilogies. Relatedly, some works say Kylo and Snoke are a new faction of Dark Side users distinct from the Sith, which makes no sense if they both work for Palpatine, who is a Sith Lord.

** If Rey's parents left her on Jakku to ''protect'' her, then why did they '''sell her into slavery''' and leave her in the care of a horribly abusive junk peddler? And was a barren desert wasteland ''really'' the safest place that they could find to leave their daughter?

** The book ''Literature/ShadowOfTheSith'' to its credit does try to answer as many of these questions as possible: Rey's parents ''didn't'' sell Rey into slavery, they left her with Unkar Plutt on the belief it would be a temporary arrangement while they shook Ochi's tail (having stolen his starship from him in a previous encounter), and that while Plutt was a slimy jerk, they could at least trust him to keep his word until they got back. Unfortunately Ochi captured them in orbit, and being in a very unstable state of mind killed them, before taking his ship to the planet Rey finds his ship and corpse on in ''Rise of Skywalker'', having fallen for a BatmanGambit from Rey's mom of bluffing that Rey ''wasn't'' on Jakku, figuring Ochi was too mad and stupid to double-check (and indeed, when Ochi's flunkies tried pointing this out, he killed them). Unkar just took advantage of the fact they didn't come back to his own gain. Kylo Ren's remark about the "pauper's grave" turns out to be an outright lie; Luke and Lando found their corpses and gave them a respectful burial, but since they didn't know Rey existed they never went looking for her.

* A common question about ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' is why the heroes were seemingly okay with leaving Shmi Skywalker in slavery. While circumstances may have forced Qui-Gon and Padmé to them to leave her behind when they initially left Tatooine with Anakin, it's hard to believe that neither the Jedi Order nor the Queen of Naboo would have had the resources to secure her freedom sometime after they left (either by forcing Watto to set her free or simply buying her), making them seem rather callous for abandoning her. ''[[Literature/StarWarsQueensShadow Queen's Shadow]]'' attempts to address this by showing that Padmé actually ''did'' devote considerable time and effort to freeing slaves on Tatooine between the events of ''The Phantom Menace'' and ''Film/AttackOfTheClones''--but when she tried to free Shmi, she discovered that Cliegg Lars had already freed her. But this doesn't track at all with the events of ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'', where Anakin returns to Tatooine for the first time in 10 years to find his mother, and Padmé (who's with him at the time) never says a word about any of this, leaving him to track down Watto to learn Shmi's last known whereabouts; if Padmé knew that Shmi was free (and knew ''who freed her''), she could have saved Anakin an awful lot of effort and worry by telling him that.

*** How did his soul get to the other side of the galaxy in a matter of seconds (as the book says)? Did his soul travel though hyperspace or something?

** While Rey being descended from Palpatine may explain why she is so Force-sensitive and proficient with the Force right off the bat, it fails to explain why she's an InstantExpert in a bunch of other things, such as being able to fight off Kylo Ren despite never having used a light saber before, being able to fix a problem with the Millenium Falcon that Han couldn't figure out (even though it's his ship and he's had it for decades), and being able to ''swim'' despite living on a desert planet her entire life.

* While Rey being descended from Palpatine may explain why she is so Force-sensitive and proficient with the Force right off the bat, it fails to explain why she's an InstantExpert in a bunch of other things, such as being able to fight off Kylo Ren despite never having used a light saber before, being able to fix a problem with the Millenium Falcon that Han couldn't figure out (even though it's his ship and he's had it for decades), and being able to ''swim'' despite living on a desert planet her entire life.

** The book ''Literature/ShadowOfTheSith'' to its credit does try to answer as many of these questions as possible: Rey's parents ''didn't'' sell Rey into slavery, they left her with Unkar Plutt on the belief it would be a temporary arrangement while they shook Ochi's tail (having stolen his starship from him in a previous encounter), and that while Plutt was a slimey jerk, they could at least trust him to keep his word until they got back. Unfortunately Ochi captured them in orbit, and being in a very unstable state of mind killed them, before taking his ship to the planet Rey finds his ship and corpse on in ''Rise of Skywalker'', having fallen for a BatmanGambit from Rey's mom of bluffing that Rey ''wasn't'' on Jakku, figuring Ochi was too mad and stupid to double-check (and indeed, when Ochi's flunkies tried pointing this out, he killed them). Unkar just took advantage of the fact they didn't come back to his own gain. Kylo Ren's remark about the "pauper's grave" turns out to be an outright lie; Luke and Lando found their corpses and gave them a respectful burial, but since they didn't know Rey existed never went looking for her.

*** The book says his soul left his body before it even hit the bottom and exploded.So why was he still screaming after his body was supposedly empty?

** ''Film/TheLastJedi'' makes it fairly clear that Rey's parents ''weren't'' Force-sensitive, and that Rey developed her Force powers spontaneously rather than inheriting them. But since ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' retroactively reveals that she actually inherited them from her grandfather Palpatine, that raises the question of why her father (Palpatine's ''son'') '''didn't''' inherit any of his powers. And for that matter, how does Palpatine even ''have'' a son? Judging by his relative age, Rey's father would have to have been born sometime after the rise of the Empire--when Palpatine didn't exactly have an active love life, [[{{Squick}} for obvious reasons]]. The [[AllThereInTheManual supplemental materials]] attempt to explain this by revealing that Rey's father was actually ''another'' clone of Palpatine, and that Palpatine created him as another [[GrandTheftMe host body]]--which just makes it all the more baffling that he didn't have any of Palpatine's powers. It also raises the question of how Palpatine's "[[TrulySingleParent son]]" escaped his clutches long enough to meet Rey's mother and have a daughter with her. And if Palpatine only created his clone as a potential host body for himself, then why didn't he just [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness kill the clone]] when he found out that he didn't inherit any of his powers? Did he somehow ''know'' a child that clone produced ''would'' inherit his power, making it another "everything as I have forseen" situation? Finally, if Rey's father was a clone of Palpatine, why does he look completely different? This could be part of the "defective" part, but it's never explained.

** ''The Rise of Skywalker'' reveals that Rey's parents were found and murdered by Palpatine's assassin Ochi before they could escape Jakku, which is presumably why they're buried there. But if that's the case, then how could Rey have watched her parents fly away from Jakku in a starship?[[note]] After ''Film/TheLastJedi'' initially revealed that Rey's parents sold her into slavery for some quick money, most viewers came to the conclusion that Rey's flashback just showed them flying away to a different part of Jakku, but ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' shoots down that theory.[[/note]] The filmmakers later tried to explain the apparent inconsistency by clarifying that the starship seen in Rey's flashback in ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' was actually ''Ochi's'' ship. Okay...but then why was she yelling ''"Come back!"'' at it? Even worse: if Ochi managed to track Rey's family to Jakku, ''and'' managed to find and kill Rey's parents, then how did he fail to find '''Rey'''? Did he just give up looking for her when he saw that she wasn't with her parents?

** First and foremost: Palpatine was last seen being hurled into a bottomless pit on the Death Star shortly before it ''exploded''--so how the hell is he even alive? The [[AllthereInTheManual supplemental materials]] attempt to answer this by explaining that he used the Force to transfer his consciousness into a cloned body maintained by a secret cult called "The Sith Eternal", but that still doesn't explain why he waited 30 years to reveal to his followers that he was still alive. It also raises the question of why the clone looks even ''older'' than Palpatine did in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' (beyond the obvious answer of the actor who played him aging), and why the clone looks like a rotting reanimated corpse, and if Palpatine can cheat death by creating a clone of himself whenever he wants, then why does he only have ''one'' clone? The novelization of the movie answered this through an interior monologue from Palpatine, explaining that cloning someone as powerful as him was complicated in a way cloning someone like Jango Fett was not, and the clones produced were usually defective and not fully-cloned, with the one he inhabits simply being the closest the Sith Eternal got and still requiring constant medical attention to keep sustained, which explains why he's kept attached to a machine.

*** The book says his soul left his body before it even hit the bottom and exploded. So why was he still screaming
after his body was supposedly empty?

** The [[AllThereInTheManual novelization]] tries to explain his return by saying that he had set up the cloning facilty
on Exegol ahead of time, as he had anticipated Anakin [[TheStarscream killing him,]] and that he used the Dark Side
to tranfer his soul into the clone as he fell. This just raises even ''more'' problems:

*** The book says his soul left his body before it even hit the bottom and exploded. So why was he still screaming if

*** How did his soul get to the other side of the galaxy in a matter of seconds (as the book says)? Did his soul travel
though hyperspace or something?

** If Snoke was an artificial human created by Palpatine to do his bidding, then why do Snoke and Palpatine clearly have ''different'' agendas? One of Snoke's primary goals in ''Film/TheLastJedi'' is clearly to kill Rey, while ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' claims that Palpatine's primary goal is to ''[[GrandTheftMe possess]]'' her.

* ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'':
** When Jabba The Hutt plans to [[FedToTheBeast feed the heroes to the Sarlacc,]] he says they will "Learn a new definition of pain and suffering as" they are [[FateWorseThanDeath slowly digested over a thousand years.]] In order to explain how a person could survive in the Sarlaac's gut ''at all'' (let alone a thousand years) the old [=EU=] said that it injects nutrients into its prey via feeding tentacles in its stomach, and also slows down their metabolism so they live as long as possible, [[AndIMustScream all while trapped in endless agony.]] While this is certainly horrifying, it poses the obvious problem that the Sarlaac would basically have to feed its own food, which would mean it wouldn't actually have any net gain of nutrients from eating them (particularly if it took a thousand years just to digest a human-sized creature) and would starve unless it's a PerpetualMotionMonster, in which case it shouldn't have to eat ''at all.''