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* ObviousBeta: The game itself is actually playable, but it ends only when you approach The Far Reaches (ironically, because the re-release of Thayer's Quest got a name of ''Kingdom: The Far Reaches'' and this kingdom '''never''' makes an appearance till ''Shadoan''). [[WhatCouldHaveBeen Rumor has it that animation for all five kingdoms was drawn... which never made it to the game.]]
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''Thayer's Quest'' is a [[TheEighties 1984]] fully-animated laserdisc game in the style of ''VideoGame/DragonsLair'' or ''VideoGame/SpaceAce,'' but with somewhat more interactivity. With animation provided by Creator/ToeiAnimation and for the sequel presumably Creator/KKCAndDAsia.

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''Thayer's Quest'' is a [[TheEighties 1984]] fully-animated laserdisc game in the style of ''VideoGame/DragonsLair'' or ''VideoGame/SpaceAce,'' but with somewhat more interactivity. With animation provided by Creator/ToeiAnimation and for the sequel presumably Creator/KKCAndDAsia.\n
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''Thayer's Quest'' is a [[TheEighties 1984]] fully-animated laserdisc game in the style of ''VideoGame/DragonsLair'' or ''VideoGame/SpaceAce,'' but with somewhat more interactivity.

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''Thayer's Quest'' is a [[TheEighties 1984]] fully-animated laserdisc game in the style of ''VideoGame/DragonsLair'' or ''VideoGame/SpaceAce,'' but with somewhat more interactivity.
interactivity. With animation provided by Creator/ToeiAnimation and for the sequel presumably Creator/KKCAndDAsia.

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** Alternately, use The Spell of Seeing in the Hedge Maze [[spoiler:and Isonbey will PWN you for using magic in this place.]]

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** Alternately, use The Spell of Seeing in the Hedge Maze [[spoiler:and Isonbey the maze will PWN you for using magic in this place.]]place, while Isonbey laments, "When will they learn not to use magic here?!?"]]


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* NoFairCheating: The Hedge Maze bars the use of magic. [[spoiler:Using the Spell of Seeing to view the correct path will kill you on the spot.]]


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* ResignationsNotAccepted: [[spoiler:The bridge to the Far Reaches is cursed, trapping its guardian in place. The only way to leave the job is for someone to return after having paid the toll, which makes ''them'' the new guardian.]]


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* TheVirus: Getting caught by the lizardmen turns Thayer into a lizardman.
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* BagOfHolding: Thayer starts his quest with a magic pouch to carry whatever he finds, though as Druce points out, even the pouch has a limit.

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* BagOfHolding: Thayer starts his quest with a magic pouch to carry whatever he finds, though as Druce points out, even the pouch has a limit.limit, which goes down more when he's wounded.
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** The sequel continues this tradition. For instance, when you're trying to bargain with the pirate captain for passage to an island where one of the relics is hidden, you can choose from several of the things in your inventory. If they're not the right one, you don't actually see Lathan's hands to see what he's offering, and the pirate's only response is a generic "Don't need that."

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** The sequel continues this tradition. For instance, example, when you're trying to bargain with the pirate captain for passage to an island where one of the relics is hidden, you can choose from several of the things in your inventory. If they're not the right one, you don't actually see Lathan's hands to see what he's offering, and the pirate's only response is a generic generic, "Don't need that."
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** The sequel continues this tradition. For instance, when you're trying to bargain with the pirate captain for passage to an island where one of the relics is hidden, you can choose from several of the things in your inventory. If they're not the right one, you don't actually see Lathan's hands to see what he's offering, and the pirate's only response is a generic "Don't need that."
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* InfinityPlusOneSword: The strongest weapon in the first game is the Blood Sword of the Elder Kings. Which kind of weirdly is ''not'' one of the pieces of the almighty artifact you're questing to find, and is a more effective weapon than the piece that ''is'' a weapon, the Black Mace. Averted in the second game where you find the Dagger of Arne, which is both a piece of the Hand ''and'' works better than the Blood Sword.

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* InfinityPlusOneSword: The strongest weapon in the first game is the Blood Sword of the Elder Kings. Which kind of weirdly is ''not'' one of the pieces of the almighty artifact you're questing to find, and is a more effective weapon than the piece that ''is'' a weapon, the Black Mace. Averted Played more straight in the second game where you find the Dagger of Arne, which is both a piece of the Hand ''and'' works better than the Blood Sword.
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* PowerCrystal: The Crystal of Lothar/Kaldar, which can be used to fend off various dangers (although there's not much indication of which ones it does and doesn't work against).
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* BigBad: Sorsabal the EvilSorcerer.
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* HaveANiceDeath: Return to the bridge guy after you give him the Silver Wheat [[spoiler:and you'll get his job. Like, '''forever'''.]]

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* HaveANiceDeath: Return to the bridge guy after you give him the Silver Wheat [[spoiler:and you'll get his job. Like, '''forever'''.'''forever''', kept there by laser bars.]]
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* InfinityPlusOneSword: The strongest weapon in the first game is the Blood Sword of the Elder Kings, which kind of weirdly is ''not'' one of the pieces of the almighty artifact you're questing to find, and is a more effective weapon than the piece that ''is'' a weapon, the Black Mace. Averted in the second game where you find the Dagger of Arne, which is both a piece of the Hand ''and'' works better than the Blood Sword.

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* InfinityPlusOneSword: The strongest weapon in the first game is the Blood Sword of the Elder Kings, which Kings. Which kind of weirdly is ''not'' one of the pieces of the almighty artifact you're questing to find, and is a more effective weapon than the piece that ''is'' a weapon, the Black Mace. Averted in the second game where you find the Dagger of Arne, which is both a piece of the Hand ''and'' works better than the Blood Sword.
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* AnimationBump: ''The Far Reaches'' has a few original scenes not recycled from ''Thayer's Quest'', like the opening cutscene and some new puzzles. Even through [=CD-ROM=] compression, the animation looks noticeably newer.

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* AdaptationNameChange: Pretty much every character got a new name for the ''Kingdom'' remake: Thayer became Lathan, Druce became Daelon, Quoid became Mobus, and so on.



* BagOfHolding: Thayer starts his quest with a magic pouch to carry whatever he finds, though as Druce points out, even the pouch has a limit.



* FilmingForEasyDub: Most scenes have variations with alternate dialogue. These scenes are animated with little to no on-screen lip movement.

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* FilmingForEasyDub: Most scenes have variations with alternate dialogue. These scenes are Almost every scene is animated with little the speaking characters off-screen, turned away, or otherwise obscured, allowing them to no on-screen lip movement.be easily redubbed with new dialogue the second time you see them.
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I've played the game enough times to remember all the details.


* HaveANiceDeath: Pay Pentacle Coins to the bridge guy [[spoiler:and you'll get his job. Like, '''forever'''.]]

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* HaveANiceDeath: Pay Pentacle Coins Return to the bridge guy after you give him the Silver Wheat [[spoiler:and you'll get his job. Like, '''forever'''.]]
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''Thayer's Quest'' is a [[TheEighties 1984]] fully-animated laserdisc game in the style of ''DragonsLair'' or ''VideoGame/SpaceAce,'' but with somewhat more interactivity.

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''Thayer's Quest'' is a [[TheEighties 1984]] fully-animated laserdisc game in the style of ''DragonsLair'' ''VideoGame/DragonsLair'' or ''VideoGame/SpaceAce,'' but with somewhat more interactivity.
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'was' is used for canceled products. While this game suffers from Crack Is Cheaoer, it was still released in some form.


''Thayer's Quest'' was a [[TheEighties 1984]] fully-animated laserdisc game in the style of ''DragonsLair'' or ''VideoGame/SpaceAce,'' but with somewhat more interactivity.

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''Thayer's Quest'' was is a [[TheEighties 1984]] fully-animated laserdisc game in the style of ''DragonsLair'' or ''VideoGame/SpaceAce,'' but with somewhat more interactivity.
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* PlotCouponThatDoesSomething: The ultimate goal of the game is to assemble the Black Mace, Orb of Mobus, the Hunting Horn, the Dagger of Arne and the Crown of Malric. Each are used to solve puzzles on their own too.
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* InfinityPlusOneSword: The strongest weapon in the first game is the Blood Sword of the Elder Kings, which kind of weirdly is not one of the pieces of the almighty artifact you're questing to find, and is a more effective weapon than the piece that ''is'' a weapon. Averted in the second game where you find the Dagger of Arne, which is both a piece of the Hand ''and'' works better than the Blood Sword.

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* InfinityPlusOneSword: The strongest weapon in the first game is the Blood Sword of the Elder Kings, which kind of weirdly is not ''not'' one of the pieces of the almighty artifact you're questing to find, and is a more effective weapon than the piece that ''is'' a weapon.weapon, the Black Mace. Averted in the second game where you find the Dagger of Arne, which is both a piece of the Hand ''and'' works better than the Blood Sword.
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* InfinityPlusOneSword: The strongest weapon in the first game is the Blood Sword of the Elder Kings, which kind of weirdly is not one of the pieces of the almighty artifact you're questing to find, and is a more effective weapon than the piece that ''is'' a weapon. Averted in the second game where you find the Dagger of Arne, which is both a piece of the Hand ''and'' works better than the Blood Sword.

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* ElementalEmbodiment: At one point in the desert, Thayer must find three element-based monsters: water, earth, and fire.



* TheManyDeathsOfYou
* ObviousBeta: The game itself is actually playable, but it ends only when you approach The Far Reaches (ironically, because the rerelease of Thayer's Quest got a name of ''Kingdom: The Far Reaches'' and this kingdom '''never''' makes appearance till ''Shadoan''). [[WhatCouldHaveBeen Rumor has it that animation for all five kingdoms was drawn... which never made it to the game.]]
* OneHitPointWonder: Two, actually, but if you lost one, there was only one way to actually restore it and it was kind of hard to find.
** Although you can't say it's NintendoHard. Perhaps, there are TWO places where you can heal during the entire game.
*** At the waterfall, and the monk in Illes.

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* TheManyDeathsOfYou
TheManyDeathsOfYou: Make the wrong move or face a trap with only one point of health and you're a goner.
* ObviousBeta: The game itself is actually playable, but it ends only when you approach The Far Reaches (ironically, because the rerelease re-release of Thayer's Quest got a name of ''Kingdom: The Far Reaches'' and this kingdom '''never''' makes an appearance till ''Shadoan''). [[WhatCouldHaveBeen Rumor has it that animation for all five kingdoms was drawn... which never made it to the game.]]
* OneHitPointWonder: Two, actually, but if you lost one, there was were only one way two places to actually restore it and it was kind of hard to find.
** Although you can't say it's NintendoHard. Perhaps, there are TWO places where you can heal during
your health: at the entire game.
*** At the waterfall,
waterfall and the monk in Illes.Illes. Thankfully, they're not hard to find.
* StrippedToTheBone: Quite a few of the deaths results in Thayer melting or rotting to the bone.
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* FirstInstallmentWins: Thanks to Dyer who thought the original Thayer's Quest was 'too 70s' and also rehashed it into ''Kingdom: The Far Reaches'', with more cheesy audio, more cheesy name replacements (''including'' Thayer, who became prince Lathan), even more cheesy intro which sets you not to fight against Torlock, but rather with the greedy ruler of Kingdom of Iscar, as well as more cheesy navigation method.
** No wonder why this wasn't released in the arcades... Even the DVD version tries to mock ''the original'' cut...
** On the other hand, ''Shadoan'' is a straight sequel to '''this''' rehashment... where you finally fight Torlock, yay!

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* HaveANiceDeath: Pay Pentacle Coins to the bridge guy [[spoiler:and you'll get his job. Like, '''for ever'''.]]

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* HaveANiceDeath: Pay Pentacle Coins to the bridge guy [[spoiler:and you'll get his job. Like, '''for ever'''.'''forever'''.]]



* {{Narm}}: Some in ''Thayer's Quest'', loads in ''The Far Reaches''.
** Instant example: when you visit Torlocl's throne room (no, not ex-Sorsabal's):
---> '''Torlocl:''' Saw, yunn pop, yuffound mah chambers. Gods, dreow him to tze bists! It wille emmuse mah cohrtiars! [[EvilLaugh GWEEE!! har har!]]
** And when you kill him...
--->'''Thayer:''' I'm sorry, I have no choice.
--->'''Guard:''' (definitely something that would fit [[WesternAnimation/ScoobyDoo Shaggy]]) For ten years I've been waiting to see this, thank you freind!
* NightmareFuel: One of the more violent death scenes include [[spoiler:Thayer in several stages of decomposition before finally turning into a skeleton.]]
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''Thayer's Quest'' was a [[TheEighties 1984]] fully-animated laserdisc game in the style of ''DragonsLair'' or ''VideoGame/SpaceAce,'' but with much more interactivity.

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''Thayer's Quest'' was a [[TheEighties 1984]] fully-animated laserdisc game in the style of ''DragonsLair'' or ''VideoGame/SpaceAce,'' but with much somewhat more interactivity.
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--> ''The fantasy is yours.''

''Thayer's Quest'' was a [[TheEighties 1984]] fully-animated laserdisc game in the style of ''DragonsLair'' or ''VideoGame/SpaceAce,'' but with much more interactivity.

The player controls Thayer Alcanred, an apprentice magician and [[ChosenOne last of a magically-blessed bloodline]]. His mentor tasks him with finding the pieces of the almighty [[MacGuffin Hand of Quoid]] before the evil wizard [[BigBad Sorsabal]]. The game's main goal, however, is to deal with Sorsabal's pawn, Torlock, who killed the rightful king and queen and now sits on their throne. Under his despotic reign the land has become a place of chaos where [[EverythingTryingToKillYou where evil lurks around every corner]].

A sequel incorporating the second half of Thayer's quest was planned, but the developers went bankrupt before it could be completed (probably owing to the system it was created for going for something in the ballpark of $2500). When CD-based consoles and computers made the format more accessible in the [[TheNineties 1990s]], ''Thayer's Quest'' was given a facelift (creator Rick Dyer thought the original game was "too [[TheSeventies 70's]]") and rereleased as ''Kingdom: The Far Reaches.'' The second game completing the story, ''Kingdom: Shadoan,'' was also finally completed and released not long after.

Unlike games such as ''Dragon's Lair'' and ''Space Ace,'' which only required the player to tell their character where to move or when to attack in accordance with the animation, ''Thayer's Quest'' was a full-on AdventureGame. The player had complete control over Thayer's movement from area to area, accumulating items to let him defeat enemies and escape traps.


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!!''Thayer's Quest'' provides examples of:

* AllThereInTheManual: The game has a very elaborate backstory which is [[strike:barely]] contextually mentioned during the game.
** Also, '''listen carefully to every NPC'''. If you get stuck, thank your impatience.
* DumbMuscle: The guard of the bridge which will lead us to the endspiel, according to his body proportions, voice and... oh hell, his face.
** On the other side, he knows ''every'' law of The Elder Kings.
* FailureIsTheOnlyOption: Can't find the healing point and your pouch is overfilled? No worries! Make Thayer die and he will respawn with not even a single scratch.
** Sometimes, it's clearly averted, though... [[spoiler:Try to use a spell which is ''obligatory'' to use to beat the game in the wrong place and [[GameBreakingBug you lose it forever.]] Seriously.]]
* HaveANiceDeath: Pay Pentacle Coins to the bridge guy [[spoiler:and you'll get his job. Like, '''for ever'''.]]
** Alternately, use The Spell of Seeing in the Hedge Maze [[spoiler:and Isonbey will PWN you for using magic in this place.]]
* KarmaMeter: Doesn't really influence the gameplay but rather shows your rank after you beat the game or lose all your lives.
* MacGuffin: The Hand of Quoid, split onto five relics.
--> '''Druce:''' The relics! The relics are important!
* TheManyDeathsOfYou
* ObviousBeta: The game itself is actually playable, but it ends only when you approach The Far Reaches (ironically, because the rerelease of Thayer's Quest got a name of ''Kingdom: The Far Reaches'' and this kingdom '''never''' makes appearance till ''Shadoan''). [[WhatCouldHaveBeen Rumor has it that animation for all five kingdoms was drawn... which never made it to the game.]]
* OneHitPointWonder: Two, actually, but if you lost one, there was only one way to actually restore it and it was kind of hard to find.
** Although you can't say it's NintendoHard. Perhaps, there are TWO places where you can heal during the entire game.
*** At the waterfall, and the monk in Illes.
* FirstInstallmentWins: Thanks to Dyer who thought the original Thayer's Quest was 'too 70s' and also rehashed it into ''Kingdom: The Far Reaches'', with more cheesy audio, more cheesy name replacements (''including'' Thayer, who became prince Lathan), even more cheesy intro which sets you not to fight against Torlock, but rather with the greedy ruler of Kingdom of Iscar, as well as more cheesy navigation method.
** No wonder why this wasn't released in the arcades... Even the DVD version tries to mock ''the original'' cut...
** On the other hand, ''Shadoan'' is a straight sequel to '''this''' rehashment... where you finally fight Torlock, yay!
* {{Narm}}: Some in ''Thayer's Quest'', loads in ''The Far Reaches''.
** Instant example: when you visit Torlocl's throne room (no, not ex-Sorsabal's):
---> '''Torlocl:''' Saw, yunn pop, yuffound mah chambers. Gods, dreow him to tze bists! It wille emmuse mah cohrtiars! [[EvilLaugh GWEEE!! har har!]]
** And when you kill him...
--->'''Thayer:''' I'm sorry, I have no choice.
--->'''Guard:''' (definitely something that would fit [[WesternAnimation/ScoobyDoo Shaggy]]) For ten years I've been waiting to see this, thank you freind!
* NightmareFuel: One of the more violent death scenes include [[spoiler:Thayer in several stages of decomposition before finally turning into a skeleton.]]
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