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* UngratefulBastard: The good people of Winhill, barring Raine and Ellone. After Laguna recovers from his injuries, they either drop broad hints that he should leave or outright tell him to scram, even though he's risking his life daily in a one-man mission to clear the town of vicious monsters. [[spoiler:When Raine dies in his absence, they simply drop Squall off at an orphanage.]]

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* VideoGameCrueltyPotential:
** The final event of the Alien Encounter sidequest. The idea is to give the little alien some (rather expensive) medicine and [=PuPu=] will return the favor by giving the party his unique Triple Triad card. However there's nothing stopping the player from simply killing it, which will actually reward the party with an item that teaches a GF the ever useful Auto-Haste passive skill. It is a trade down, though, because the [=PuPu=] can't be obtained by any other means unlike the Accelerator which "merely" requires lots of grinding or refining the Kiros card.
** It's even worse if someone has the Devour skill, because for some reason [=PuPu=] is an ''edible'' monster that grants a small but permanent bonus to the character's Speed stat.


* TheArtifact: Save files for ''Final Fantasy VIII Remastered'' still specify "Disc 1," "Disc 2," etc., even though the game is no longer issued on CD-[=ROMs=].

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* TheArtifact: Save files for ''Final Fantasy VIII Remastered'' still specify "Disc 1," "Disc 2," etc., even though the game is no longer issued on CD-[=ROMs=]. They're also distributed between two separate "memory card" folders.

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* SavePoint: You can only save at save points when in towns and dungeons and the like, but can save freely when in the overworld.

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* LuckBasedMission: Your party for the final boss fight is randomly chosen by the boss. If you are not expecting this, then you will probably give all the good stuff to your A team, leaving the B team with nothing, only to find some of the A team on the bench. Party members who are in KO status for long enough will be replaced with a randomly chosen person. Working out the probability of getting an all B team party at first is left as an exercise.

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* EvilIsNotAToy: The president of Galbadia announces to a cheering crowd that he has recruited Sorceress Edea to help "negotiate" with neighbouring countries. [[spoiler:She asks the crowd if they have forgotten the horrors of the Sorceress Wars, and then casually kills the president]].


** The "Weapons Monthly" magazines that tell you what ingredients are necessary to craft a certain weapon aren't actually a requirement for the same. That is, if you remember the recipe from a previous playthrough or just look it up in a guide, you can get weapons from a junk shop as soon as you can get the ingredients. This means you can get everyone's best weapons (and Irvine's second best) as early as right before the final events Disc 1, and yes, this includes crafting Squall's InfinityPlusOneSword if you go for a low-level playthrough and then [[GameBreaker kiss the difficulty goodbye]]. The tricky part is that it requires a ''lot'' of patience and card matches, the willingness to Refine an unique card for Adamantines[[note]]Minotaur, but I think you can get it back in Disc 4 if you complete the CC Group sidequest first[[/note]], as well as the [[GuideDangIt detailed knowledge of how to get the items needed]]. For example, crafting Rinoa's "Shooting Star all but requires beating the SpiderTank TimeLimitBoss (and a bit of luck or SaveScumming) as it has a 25% chance to drop a Force Armlet.

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** The "Weapons Monthly" magazines that tell you what ingredients are necessary to craft a certain weapon aren't actually a requirement for the same. That is, if you remember the recipe from a previous playthrough or just look it up in a guide, you can get weapons from craft a given weapon in a junk shop as soon as you can get the ingredients. This means you can get everyone's best weapons (and Irvine's second best) as early as right before the final events Disc 1, and yes, this includes crafting Squall's InfinityPlusOneSword if you go for a low-level playthrough and then [[GameBreaker kiss the difficulty goodbye]]. The tricky part is that it requires a ''lot'' of patience and card matches, the willingness to Refine an unique card for Adamantines[[note]]Minotaur, but I think you can get it back in Disc 4 if you complete the CC Group sidequest first[[/note]], before the end of Disc 3[[/note]], as well as the [[GuideDangIt detailed knowledge of how to get the items needed]]. For example, crafting Rinoa's "Shooting Star Star" all but requires beating the SpiderTank TimeLimitBoss (and a bit of luck or SaveScumming) as it has a 25% chance to drop a Force Armlet.


* DiscOneNuke: Players can forge Squall's InfinityPlusOneSword as early as Disc 1. It requires a ''lot'' of patience, as well as the [[GuideDangIt knowledge of how to get the items needed]], but forging it that early means you can [[GameBreaker kiss the difficulty goodbye]].

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** The "Weapons Monthly" magazines that tell you what ingredients are necessary to craft a certain weapon aren't actually a requirement for the same. That is, if you remember the recipe from a previous playthrough or just look it up in a guide, you
can forge get weapons from a junk shop as soon as you can get the ingredients. This means you can get everyone's best weapons (and Irvine's second best) as early as right before the final events Disc 1, and yes, this includes crafting Squall's InfinityPlusOneSword as early as Disc 1. It if you go for a low-level playthrough and then [[GameBreaker kiss the difficulty goodbye]]. The tricky part is that it requires a ''lot'' of patience, patience and card matches, the willingness to Refine an unique card for Adamantines[[note]]Minotaur, but I think you can get it back in Disc 4 if you complete the CC Group sidequest first[[/note]], as well as the [[GuideDangIt detailed knowledge of how to get the items needed]], needed]]. For example, crafting Rinoa's "Shooting Star all but forging it that early means you can [[GameBreaker kiss requires beating the difficulty goodbye]].SpiderTank TimeLimitBoss (and a bit of luck or SaveScumming) as it has a 25% chance to drop a Force Armlet.


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** Speaking of Card Mod, pay attention when a unique card can be converted into three of something. Those are always items that teach skills to your [=GFs=], many of them are endgame ones and even several that only one GF will ever learn on their own. For example, the Kiros card can be Modded into 3 Accelerators, which teach the Auto-Haste passive skill that otherwise can only be learned by Cerberus at a total cost of whooping 620 AP[[note]]Auto-Haste alone costs 150 AP to learn, but it requires Spd-J (120 AP), Spd+20% (150 AP), and Spd+40% (200 AP) to be learned first in that order; you can of course bypass some or all of them if you have the item that teaches the previous skill in the chain -- like Rocket Engine that teaches Spd+40% and allows you to immediately start putting AP toward learning Auto-Haste[[/note]].


* DeconstructedCharacterArchetype: Deconstructs the KidHero by way of overt comparison to ChildSoldiers. Your party of heroic 16- and 17 year-olds is just as mentally damaged and scarred as child soldiers tend to be in real life, not helped by using {{Phlebotinum}} which erases their memories, thus taking time to deconstruct the AmnesiacHero as well.



* DeconstructedCharacterArchetype: Deconstructs the KidHero by way of overt comparison to ChildSoldiers. Your party of heroic 16- and 17 year-olds is just as mentally damaged and scarred as child soldiers tend to be in real life, not helped by using {{Phlebotinum}} which erases their memories, thus taking time to deconstruct the AmnesiacHero as well.



** In the same room where the Forest Owls explains their [[spoiler:kidnapping]] plans with the train models, there is a bulleting board with articles from a magazine called [[TheMagazineRule "Anarchist Monthly"]] on [[PresidentForLife Vinzer Deling]]. In particular, the D-District prison and Galbadia's new missile technology are mentioned.



** Anyone savvy enough to know "Cid" is a name within the Final Fantasy franchise usually given to someone associated with airships may take this as a hint that the game's equivalent to the airship, [[spoiler:or at least one of them, is Balamb Garden itself (of which, the Cid of this game is the headmaster to).]]

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** Anyone savvy enough to know "Cid" is a name within the Final Fantasy ''Final Fantasy'' franchise usually given to someone associated with airships may take this as a hint that the game's equivalent to the airship, [[spoiler:or at least one of them, is Balamb Garden itself (of which, the Cid of this game is the headmaster to).]]



** The only places with treasure "boxes" are D-District Prison and Ultimecia Castle. With the latter needs you to play organ to remove bars blocking the passage to the treasure chest containing Rosetta Stone.

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** The only places with treasure "boxes" are D-District Prison and Ultimecia Castle. With the latter needs you to play organ to remove bars blocking the passage to the treasure chest containing a Rosetta Stone.



* PointOfNoReturn: There are two of these in Final Fantasy VIII. The first one is the door before the last Seifer boss fight in the Lunatic Pandora. Once he falls, [[spoiler:he captures Rinoa, and takes her to Adel, ending Disc 3, and making it impossible to leave the Lunatic Pandora when Disc 4 loads up (Squall will refuse to board the Ragnarok), thereby forcing the player to complete the dungeon by taking out Adel, at which point Time Compression begins. After surviving the Time Compression boss fight, the player can return to the world map, but all areas with people in them are sealed off permanently.]] The second, and official, point of no return is the door to Ultimecia's throne room at the end of her castle; entering this door will start the lengthy Final Boss fight against Ultimecia.

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* PointOfNoReturn: There are two of these in Final ''Final Fantasy VIII.VIII''. The first one is the door before the last Seifer boss fight in the Lunatic Pandora. Once he falls, [[spoiler:he captures Rinoa, and takes her to Adel, ending Disc 3, and making it impossible to leave the Lunatic Pandora when Disc 4 loads up (Squall will refuse to board the Ragnarok), thereby forcing the player to complete the dungeon by taking out Adel, at which point Time Compression begins. After surviving the Time Compression boss fight, the player can return to the world map, but all areas with people in them are sealed off permanently.]] The second, and official, point of no return is the door to Ultimecia's throne room at the end of her castle; entering this door will start the lengthy Final Boss fight against Ultimecia.



** A shout-out occurs in music form: the final boss music, "The Extreme", contains a call-back to the original Final Fantasy battle music.

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** A shout-out occurs in music form: the final boss music, "The Extreme", contains a call-back to the original Final Fantasy ''Final Fantasy'' battle music.



* ThereAreNoTherapists: Some characters would need one. Possibly justifed by the SchizoTech setting, as psychology might not have been invented yet.

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* ThereAreNoTherapists: Some characters would need one. Possibly justifed justified by the SchizoTech setting, as psychology might not have been invented yet.


* AchievementMockery: There is a achievement on the Steam version, as well as ''Final Fantasy VIII Remastered'', for losing a rare card in Triple Triad. Then again, [[ViolationOfCommonSense you have to lose specific rare cards to the Queen of Cards to advance her sidequest]], so completionists will have to get this sooner or later.

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* AchievementMockery: There is a achievement on the Steam version, as well as ''Final Fantasy VIII Remastered'', for losing a rare card in Triple Triad. Then again, [[ViolationOfCommonSense you have to lose specific rare cards to the Queen of Cards to advance her sidequest]], so completionists will have to get this sooner or later. (Though technically, one could still avoid it with extremely careful application of the Direct rule, in which the game ends by awarding the cards to whoever's hand they're in at the end of the match. But this is way more trouble than it would ever be worth.)


* AchievementMockery: There is a Steam achievement for losing a rare card in Triple Triad. Then again, [[ViolationOfCommonSense you have to lose specific rare cards to the Queen of Cards to advance her sidequest]], so completionists will have to get this sooner or later.

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* AchievementMockery: There is a Steam achievement on the Steam version, as well as ''Final Fantasy VIII Remastered'', for losing a rare card in Triple Triad. Then again, [[ViolationOfCommonSense you have to lose specific rare cards to the Queen of Cards to advance her sidequest]], so completionists will have to get this sooner or later.


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* TheArtifact: Save files for ''Final Fantasy VIII Remastered'' still specify "Disc 1," "Disc 2," etc., even though the game is no longer issued on CD-[=ROMs=].


** Speaking of the prison sequence, you're told that there's an anti-magic field in the prison that prevents magic from being cast properly. As mentioned, Selphie attempts to use cure, but it doesn't work very well. As such, they say that they have to rely on their weapons, so it's up to Zell, since he uses his fists as his weapons. However, the second you gain control of Zell, he has full access to and use of magic, and it's never brought up again.

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** Speaking of the prison sequence, you're told that there's an anti-magic field in the prison that prevents magic from being cast properly. As mentioned, Selphie attempts to use cure, but it doesn't work very well. As such, they say that they have to rely on their weapons, so it's up to Zell, since he uses his fists as his weapons. However, the second you gain control of Zell, he has full access to and use of magic, and it's never brought up again.so do your other characters during the battle with Biggs and Wedge. Afterwards, when you leave the cell, an announcement comes on that the anti-magic field will be lifted. This, however, doesn't explain why your characters were able to use magic before it was lifted.

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** Speaking of the prison sequence, you're told that there's an anti-magic field in the prison that prevents magic from being cast properly. As mentioned, Selphie attempts to use cure, but it doesn't work very well. As such, they say that they have to rely on their weapons, so it's up to Zell, since he uses his fists as his weapons. However, the second you gain control of Zell, he has full access to and use of magic, and it's never brought up again.

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* ItemFarming:
** A variation. Magic in this game works like a kind of item, and the easiest way to get it is to Draw from a monster. Accordingly, many players will tell tales of spending a couple hours drawing endless Fire spells from Bite Bugs.
** The more conventional form is also found in the game, due to the importance of ItemCrafting to generate magic and weapons. Have fun killing Bite Bugs for hours to churn out M-Stone Pieces, or Elastoids so you can get that Steel Pipe to upgrade your rifle!


The eighth entry into the [[RunningGag finger-flayingly popular]] ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' series. Originally released on UsefulNotes/PlayStation and home computer in 1999, and ported to the UsefulNotes/PlayStationNetwork for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation3, UsefulNotes/PlayStationPortable, and UsefulNotes/PlayStationVita. The PC version later got a UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} re-release on December 5th 2013. An updated port for UsefulNotes/PlayStation4, UsefulNotes/XboxOne, and UsefulNotes/NintendoSwitch titled ''Final Fantasy VIII Remastered'' came out on September 3, 2019, [[MilestoneCelebration marking twenty years since the original came out]].

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The eighth entry into the [[RunningGag finger-flayingly popular]] ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' series. Originally released on UsefulNotes/PlayStation and home computer in 1999, and ported to the UsefulNotes/PlayStationNetwork for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation3, UsefulNotes/PlayStationPortable, and UsefulNotes/PlayStationVita. The PC version later got a UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} re-release on December 5th 2013. An updated port for PC, UsefulNotes/PlayStation4, UsefulNotes/XboxOne, and UsefulNotes/NintendoSwitch titled ''Final Fantasy VIII Remastered'' came out on September 3, 2019, [[MilestoneCelebration marking twenty years since the original came out]].

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