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* Ben Affleck agreed to take his salary for ''PearlHarbor'' from the net profits. Oops.

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* It might not have been Hollywood Accounting so much as the studio guys being a bunch of [[ManpulativeBastard Manipulative Bastards]], but ChristopherLee was hoodwinked into doing most of the [[HammerHorror Hammer Dracula pictures]] because the studio would tell him they'd already arranged filming and hired all the crew, and if Lee didn't agree to play Dracula they'd all be out of a job. Oh, and since they'd already made all the arrangements for paying the crew and finding locations, Lee would have to agree to not be paid full salary for the picture. Knowing this explains immensely why he doesn't like to talk about that part of his career anymore.
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* This was discussed in an episode of ''{{Freakazoid}},'' of all places. Our hero is advising a naive friend on all aspects of life, and says, "Never ask for a percentage of the net. The net is ''fantasy.'' Always go for a gross position."
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* New Line Cinema was sued over ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' by Creator/PeterJackson (leaving ''TheHobbit'' in DevelopmentHell for several years), the Tolkien estate, and over a dozen actors.

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* New Line Cinema was sued over ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' by Creator/PeterJackson (leaving ''TheHobbit'' ''Film/TheHobbit'' in DevelopmentHell for several years), the Tolkien estate, and over a dozen actors.
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* In 2007, Paul Haggis sued the producers of the 2004 film ''{{Crash}}'' for not giving him $4.7 million in unpaid royalties. Studio executives argued that the movie (which was made for $7.5 million, and grossed ten times that amount at the box office) wasn't profitable when the accounting was done. The co-writer (Bobby Moresco) and co-producer (Cathy Schulman) also sued for royalties.

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* In 2007, Paul Haggis sued the producers of the 2004 film ''{{Crash}}'' ''Film/{{Crash}}'' for not giving him $4.7 million in unpaid royalties. Studio executives argued that the movie (which was made for $7.5 million, and grossed ten times that amount at the box office) wasn't profitable when the accounting was done. The co-writer (Bobby Moresco) and co-producer (Cathy Schulman) also sued for royalties.
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* Because the first ''{{Film/Saw}}'' film did not have as high a budget as it's sequels, CareyElwes signed on to play Dr. Gordon in exchange for a percentage of the total gross. When the film proved to be a monstrous hit, Elwes felt he had been shortchanged (receiving only 1% of the profits) and refused to return for the sequel or even allow his image to be reused.

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* Because the first ''{{Film/Saw}}'' film did not have as high a budget as it's sequels, CareyElwes CaryElwes signed on to play Dr. Gordon in exchange for a percentage of the total gross. When the film proved to be a monstrous hit, Elwes felt he had been shortchanged (receiving only 1% of the profits) and refused to return for the sequel or even allow his image to be reused.
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* ''Film/HarryPotter [[HarryPotter/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix and the Order of the Phoenix]]'' [[http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/10/07/09/1621218/Hollywood-Accounting-mdash-How-Harry-Potter-Loses-Money came]] [[http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100708/02510310122.shtml under]] [[http://www.deadline.com/2010/07/studio-shame-even-harry-potter-pic-loses-money-because-of-warner-bros-phony-baloney-accounting/ fire]] mid-2010 after an accounting report was leaked.

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* ''Film/HarryPotter [[HarryPotter/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix and the Order of the Phoenix]]'' [[http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/10/07/09/1621218/Hollywood-Accounting-mdash-How-Harry-Potter-Loses-Money came]] [[http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100708/02510310122.shtml under]] [[http://www.deadline.com/2010/07/studio-shame-even-harry-potter-pic-loses-money-because-of-warner-bros-phony-baloney-accounting/ fire]] mid-2010 after an accounting report was leaked.
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* Because the first ''{{Franchise/Saw}}'' film did not have as high a budget as it's sequels, CareyElwes signed on to play Dr. Gordon in exchange for a percentage of the total gross. When the film proved to be a monstrous hit, Elwes felt he had been shortchanged (receiving only 1% of the profits) and refused to return for the sequel or even allow his image to be reused.
** Fortunately, Elwes was able to come to an agreement with Lionsgate Films and filmed [[OneSceneWonder two short scenes]] explaining what happened to Dr. Gordon and where he was now. [[spoiler: As well as a third scene, [[TheReveal he was revealed to have become Jigsaw's true successor]].]]

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* Because the first ''{{Franchise/Saw}}'' ''{{Film/Saw}}'' film did not have as high a budget as it's sequels, CareyElwes signed on to play Dr. Gordon in exchange for a percentage of the total gross. When the film proved to be a monstrous hit, Elwes felt he had been shortchanged (receiving only 1% of the profits) and refused to return for the sequel or even allow his image to be reused.
** Fortunately, Elwes was able to come to an agreement with Lionsgate Films and filmed [[OneSceneWonder two short scenes]] in ''The Final Chapter'' explaining what happened to Dr. Gordon and where he was now. [[spoiler: As well as a third scene, [[TheReveal he was revealed to have become Jigsaw's true successor]].]]
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** Fortunately, Elwes was able to come to an agreement with Lionsgate Films and filmed [[OneSceneWonder two short scenes]] explaining what happened to Dr. Gordon and where he was now. [[spoiler: As well as a third scene, [[TheTwist he was revealed to have been Jigsaw's true successor]].]]

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** Fortunately, Elwes was able to come to an agreement with Lionsgate Films and filmed [[OneSceneWonder two short scenes]] explaining what happened to Dr. Gordon and where he was now. [[spoiler: As well as a third scene, [[TheTwist [[TheReveal he was revealed to have been become Jigsaw's true successor]].]]

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* Paramount and CBS have never paid any of the ''Franchise/StarTrek'' actors for the use of their image in any of the merchandising that has been sold for the series, claiming that it has lost money in all of them. It is fairly impressive that they keep producing all this merchandise that does nothing but lose money, isn't it?

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* Paramount and CBS have never paid any None of the ''Franchise/StarTrek'' actors from ''TheRockyHorrorPictureShow'' have received any royalties from home video/DVD releases. This is the primary reason why SusanSarandon (Janet) has bad words to say about the movie, rather than a case of OldShame.
* Because the first ''{{Franchise/Saw}}'' film did not have as high a budget as it's sequels, CareyElwes signed on to play Dr. Gordon in exchange for a percentage of the total gross. When the film proved to be a monstrous hit, Elwes felt he had been shortchanged (receiving only 1% of the profits) and refused to return
for the use of their sequel or even allow his image in any of the merchandising that has to be reused.
** Fortunately, Elwes was able to come to an agreement with Lionsgate Films and filmed [[OneSceneWonder two short scenes]] explaining what happened to Dr. Gordon and where he was now. [[spoiler: As well as a third scene, [[TheTwist he was revealed to have
been sold for the series, claiming that it has lost money in all of them. It is fairly impressive that they keep producing all this merchandise that does nothing but lose money, isn't it?Jigsaw's true successor]].]]


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* Paramount and CBS have never paid any of the ''Franchise/StarTrek'' actors for the use of their image in any of the merchandising that has been sold for the series, claiming that it has lost money in all of them. It is fairly impressive that they keep producing all this merchandise that does nothing but lose money, isn't it?
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* New Line Cinema was sued over ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' by PeterJackson (leaving ''TheHobbit'' in DevelopmentHell for several years), the Tolkien estate, and over a dozen actors.

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* New Line Cinema was sued over ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' by PeterJackson Creator/PeterJackson (leaving ''TheHobbit'' in DevelopmentHell for several years), the Tolkien estate, and over a dozen actors.



* GaryOldman has yet to be paid for ''TheProfessional.''

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* WarnerBros' ''{{Film/Batman}}'', despite earning $253 million at the box office, [[http://articles.latimes.com/1991-03-21/entertainment/ca-796_1_net-profit posted a $36 million loss]] when the accounting was done. According to WB's formula, the studio would have had to take in an additional $150 million before the movie could begin turning a profit. Many criticized the production company for using a "rolling break-even point" to justify the film's losses. According to the Los Angeles Times (who did their own investigation), the film still should have made close to $90 million in profit by the time all expenses were paid.

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* WarnerBros' ''{{Film/Batman}}'', ''Film/{{Batman}}'', despite earning $253 million at the box office, [[http://articles.latimes.com/1991-03-21/entertainment/ca-796_1_net-profit posted a $36 million loss]] when the accounting was done. According to WB's formula, the studio would have had to take in an additional $150 million before the movie could begin turning a profit. Many criticized the production company for using a "rolling break-even point" to justify the film's losses. According to the Los Angeles Times (who did their own investigation), the film still should have made close to $90 million in profit by the time all expenses were paid.



* Sigourney Weaver was told that the studio lost money on the original ''{{Ghostbusters}}'', despite it being one of the most successful films ever made, and thus she wasn't going to get any royalties from it. Supposedly she showed up with an army of lawyers and accountants to check the books, and the studio offered her an exorbitant amount of money to appear in the sequel to keep her from looking at them.

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* Sigourney Weaver was told that the studio lost money on the original ''{{Ghostbusters}}'', ''Film/{{Ghostbusters}}'', despite it being one of the most successful films ever made, and thus she wasn't going to get any royalties from it. Supposedly she showed up with an army of lawyers and accountants to check the books, and the studio offered her an exorbitant amount of money to appear in the sequel to keep her from looking at them.



* The cast and producers of the film ''MyBigFatGreekWedding'' (with the exception of lead actress Nia Vardalos) ended up going to court to sue Playtone Pictures, HBO and Gold Circle Films for unpaid profits. The studios claimed the film lost $20 million, despite being one of the highest-grossing independent films of all time (and a record-holder for highest-grossing independent for several years).
* Ben Affleck agreed to take his salary for ''{{Pearl Harbor}}'' from the net profits. Oops.

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* The cast and producers of the film ''MyBigFatGreekWedding'' ''Film/MyBigFatGreekWedding'' (with the exception of lead actress Nia Vardalos) ended up going to court to sue Playtone Pictures, HBO and Gold Circle Films for unpaid profits. The studios claimed the film lost $20 million, despite being one of the highest-grossing independent films of all time (and a record-holder for highest-grossing independent for several years).
* Ben Affleck agreed to take his salary for ''{{Pearl Harbor}}'' ''PearlHarbor'' from the net profits. Oops.
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* Non-film example: JMichaelStraczynski got screwed out of his cut of the profits from ''[[BabylonFive Babylon 5]]''. Fortunately, he was DoingItForTheArt anyway.

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* Non-film example: JMichaelStraczynski Creator/JMichaelStraczynski got screwed out of his cut of the profits from ''[[BabylonFive Babylon 5]]''.''Series/BabylonFive''. Fortunately, he was DoingItForTheArt anyway.

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* Paramount has never paid any of the ''Franchise/StarTrek'' actors for the use of their image in any of the merchandising that has been sold for the series, claiming that it has lost money in all of them. It is fairly impressive that they keep producing all this merchandise that does nothing but lose money, isn't it?

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* Paramount has and CBS have never paid any of the ''Franchise/StarTrek'' actors for the use of their image in any of the merchandising that has been sold for the series, claiming that it has lost money in all of them. It is fairly impressive that they keep producing all this merchandise that does nothing but lose money, isn't it?
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* Paramount has never paid any of the ''StarTrek'' actors for the use of their image in any of the merchandising that has been sold for the series, claiming that it has lost money in all of them. It is fairly impressive that they keep producing all this merchandise that does nothing but lose money, isn't it?

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* Paramount has never paid any of the ''StarTrek'' ''Franchise/StarTrek'' actors for the use of their image in any of the merchandising that has been sold for the series, claiming that it has lost money in all of them. It is fairly impressive that they keep producing all this merchandise that does nothing but lose money, isn't it?
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* The Stop Online Piracy Act/Protect-IP Bill backlash in 2012 resulted in the legal sector criticizing the Motion Picture Association of America for creative accounting that claimed Hollywood lost $58 billion in profits due to online piracy. [[http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120104/04545217274/cato-institute-digs-into-mpaas-own-research-to-show-that-sopa-wouldnt-save-single-net-job.shtml One legal report]] showed that the ''actual'' amount of money lost to piracy was less than 1% of the original claim, and that the only thing piracy effects is redistribution of disposable income for other purposes, and the notion that money not spent on movies disappears from Hollywood wasn't true.

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* The Stop Online Piracy Act/Protect-IP Bill backlash in 2012 resulted in the legal sector criticizing the Motion Picture Association of America for creative accounting that claimed Hollywood lost $58 billion in profits due to online piracy. [[http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120104/04545217274/cato-institute-digs-into-mpaas-own-research-to-show-that-sopa-wouldnt-save-single-net-job.shtml One legal report]] showed that the ''actual'' amount of money lost to piracy was less than 1% of the original claim, and that the only real thing piracy effects is affected was redistribution of disposable income for other purposes, and that the notion that money not spent on movies disappears from Hollywood wasn't true.

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* WarnerBros' ''{{Film/Batman}}'', despite earning $253 million at the box office, [[http://articles.latimes.com/1991-03-21/entertainment/ca-796_1_net-profit posted a $36 million loss]] when the accounting was done. According to WB's formula, the studio would have had to take in an additional $150 million before the movie could begin turning a profit. Many criticized the production company for using a "rolling break-even point" to justify the film's losses. According to the Los Angeles Times (who did their own investigation), the film still should have made close to $90 million in profit by the time all expenses were paid.
* ''Film/BattlefieldEarth'' was the last film produced by Franchise Studios, as it turned out they made a living out of "overbudgeting" bad movies and keeping the excess as profit. After this stinker the FBI closed in and reclaimed the 100 million...er, 75 million...er, 40 million spent.
* Paramount Pictures once tried to argue that it didn't have to pay royalties to screenwriter Art Buchwald for a script idea that he claimed was stolen from him. Buchwald wrote a treatment for a story idea in 1982, and pitched it to Paramount brass as a possible comedy vehicle for EddieMurphy. Paramount shelved the treatment after several failed attempts at making a script out of it, but pulled it out again in 1987, and ended up developing the comedy ''ComingToAmerica'' based on said treatment (with Murphy, who was starring in the film, given sole story credit). Buchwald sued Paramount, and a jury agreed that Paramount breached their contract and the two stories were remarkably similar. Paramount subsequently argued that it spent so much money on marketing and development that they made no net profit. The courts then said Paramount's formula for calculating profit was "unconscionable", and the production company (fearing a loss on appeal and a wave of lawsuits by other authors) ended up settling with Buchwald out of court.
* In 2007, Paul Haggis sued the producers of the 2004 film ''{{Crash}}'' for not giving him $4.7 million in unpaid royalties. Studio executives argued that the movie (which was made for $7.5 million, and grossed ten times that amount at the box office) wasn't profitable when the accounting was done. The co-writer (Bobby Moresco) and co-producer (Cathy Schulman) also sued for royalties.
** The film's producer, Bob Yari, later went bankrupt over the suit (along with a number of money-losing projects he self-distributed). He was later sued in 2012 for the same thing over the same movie.



* Non-film example: JMichaelStraczynski got screwed out of his cut of the profits from ''[[BabylonFive Babylon 5]]''. Fortunately, he was DoingItForTheArt anyway.
--> '''JMS:''' The show, all in, cost about $110 million to make. Each year of its original run, we know it showed a profit because they TOLD us so. And in one case, they actually showed us the figures. It's now been on the air worldwide for ten years. There's been merchandise, syndication, cable, books, you name it. The [=DVDs=] grossed roughly half a BILLION dollars (and that was just after they put out S5, without all of the S5 sales in). So what does my last profit statement say? We're $80 million in the red. Basically, by the terms of my contract, if a set on a WB movie burns down in Botswana, they can charge it against B5's profits.
** HarlanEllison, in a clip from his film "Dreams With Sharp Teeth", also discusses his involvement with ''Babylon 5'', notably when Warner Brothers asked him to provide clearance rights for an interview he did during the show's production for inclusion on the DVD set. When he asked what he would be paid, the studio told him that they didn't have enough money in the budget to pay him royalties (in addition to telling him that he'd have to go buy a copy of the DVD set in a store because they couldn't justify sending him a set).
* New Line Cinema has been sued over ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' by PeterJackson (leaving ''TheHobbit'' [[DevelopmentHell up in the air for the better part of 8 years]]), the Tolkien estate, and over a dozen actors.
* ''Film/HarryPotter [[HarryPotter/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix and the Order of the Phoenix]]'' [[http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/10/07/09/1621218/Hollywood-Accounting-mdash-How-Harry-Potter-Loses-Money came]] [[http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100708/02510310122.shtml under]] [[http://www.deadline.com/2010/07/studio-shame-even-harry-potter-pic-loses-money-because-of-warner-bros-phony-baloney-accounting/ fire]] mid-2010 after an accounting report was leaked. (a few of those articles point out some of the expenses end up on the studio or its parent company)
* ''Film/BattlefieldEarth'' was the last film produced by Franchise Studios, as it turned out they made a living out of "over budgetting" bad movies and keeping the excess as profit. After this stinker the FBI closed in and reclaimed the 100 million...er 75 million...er 40 million spent.
* This was the origin of the StanLee vs [[MarvelComics Marvel Enterprises]] lawsuit: Stan's contract said he was entitled to 10% of Marvel's profits from their movies ... and Marvel's share of the net from ''{{Blade}}'' turned out to be zero. When Marvel got wise and started asking for a percentage of the gross, they tried to claim that Stan's contract didn't cover that. A court of law disagreed.
* Ben Affleck agreed to take his salary for ''{{Pearl Harbor}}'' from the net profits...oops.



* ''Film/HarryPotter [[HarryPotter/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix and the Order of the Phoenix]]'' [[http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/10/07/09/1621218/Hollywood-Accounting-mdash-How-Harry-Potter-Loses-Money came]] [[http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100708/02510310122.shtml under]] [[http://www.deadline.com/2010/07/studio-shame-even-harry-potter-pic-loses-money-because-of-warner-bros-phony-baloney-accounting/ fire]] mid-2010 after an accounting report was leaked.
* New Line Cinema was sued over ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' by PeterJackson (leaving ''TheHobbit'' in DevelopmentHell for several years), the Tolkien estate, and over a dozen actors.
* The cast and producers of the film ''MyBigFatGreekWedding'' (with the exception of lead actress Nia Vardalos) ended up going to court to sue Playtone Pictures, HBO and Gold Circle Films for unpaid profits. The studios claimed the film lost $20 million, despite being one of the highest-grossing independent films of all time (and a record-holder for highest-grossing independent for several years).
* Ben Affleck agreed to take his salary for ''{{Pearl Harbor}}'' from the net profits. Oops.
* GaryOldman has yet to be paid for ''TheProfessional.''
* According to David Prowse (the man in [[StarWars Darth Vader's suit]]), Lucasfilm still hasn't [[http://www.slashfilm.com/lucasfilm-tells-darth-vader-that-return-of-the-jedi-hasnt-made-a-profit/ paid him residuals]] for his work in ''ReturnOfTheJedi'', despite the film earning over $570 million at the box office (not counting home media releases), against a $32.5 million budget. As one commentator put it:
--> ''Imagine that George Lucas decided to go to New York tomorrow to talk about Return of the Jedi in 3D. And he stayed at the Ritz Carlton, ordered sushi at 3 a.m. from room service and used the hotel phone to call Bahrain to make prank calls. 26 years after the release of the film, the accountants at Lucasfilm are going to charge $86,000 to the costs of (Jedi)...if Lucas utters the words Star Wars and he's spending money, they're putting it on the red line for one of those films.''
* This was the origin of the StanLee vs [[MarvelComics Marvel Enterprises]] lawsuit: Stan's contract said he was entitled to 10% of Marvel's profits from their movies ... and Marvel's share of the net from ''{{Blade}}'' turned out to be zero. When Marvel got wise and started asking for a percentage of the gross, they tried to claim that Stan's contract didn't cover that. A court of law disagreed.



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* Non-film example: JMichaelStraczynski got screwed out of his cut of the profits from ''[[BabylonFive Babylon 5]]''. Fortunately, he was DoingItForTheArt anyway.
--> '''JMS:''' The show, all in, cost about $110 million to make. Each year of its original run, we know it showed a profit because they TOLD us so. And in one case, they actually showed us the figures. It's now been on the air worldwide for ten years. There's been merchandise, syndication, cable, books, you name it. The [=DVDs=] grossed roughly half a BILLION dollars (and that was just after they put out S5, without all of the S5 sales in). So what does my last profit statement say? We're $80 million in the red. Basically, by the terms of my contract, if a set on a WB movie burns down in Botswana, they can charge it against B5's profits.
** HarlanEllison, in a clip from his film "Dreams With Sharp Teeth", also discusses his involvement with ''Babylon 5'', notably when Warner Brothers asked him to provide clearance rights for an interview he did during the show's production for inclusion on the DVD set. When he asked what he would be paid, the studio told him that they didn't have enough money in the budget to pay him royalties (in addition to telling him that he'd have to go buy a copy of the DVD set in a store because they couldn't justify sending him a set).
* In 2010, Rysher Entertainment, who produced ''NashBridges'', claimed it didn't have to pay royalties to lead actor Don Johnson because they never made a profit from the show and didn't have to share anything with the actor. Johnson, whose contract stipulated he owned half the show's copyrights, sued the company and won $23 million.
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* In 2007, Paul Haggis sued the producers of the 2004 film ''{{Crash}}'' for not giving him $4.7 million in unpaid royalties. Studio executives argued that the movie (which was made for $7.5 million, and grossed ten times that amount at the box office) wasn't profitable when the accounting was done. The co-writer (Bobby Moresco) and co-producer (Cathy Schulman) also sued for royalties.
** The film's producer, Bob Yari, later went bankrupt over the suit (along with a number of money-losing projects he self-distributed). He was later sued in 2012 for the same thing over the same movie.
* GaryOldman has yet to be paid for ''TheProfessional.''
* David Prowse (the man in [[StarWars Darth Vader's suit]]) claimed Lucasfilm [[http://www.slashfilm.com/lucasfilm-tells-darth-vader-that-return-of-the-jedi-hasnt-made-a-profit/ hasn't paid him]] for ''ReturnOfTheJedi''.

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* In 2007, Paul Haggis sued The Stop Online Piracy Act/Protect-IP Bill backlash in 2012 resulted in the producers of legal sector criticizing the 2004 film ''{{Crash}}'' Motion Picture Association of America for not giving him $4.7 million in unpaid royalties. Studio executives argued that the movie (which was made for $7.5 million, and grossed ten times that amount at the box office) wasn't profitable when the creative accounting was done. The co-writer (Bobby Moresco) and co-producer (Cathy Schulman) also sued for royalties.
** The film's producer, Bob Yari, later went bankrupt over the suit (along with a number of money-losing projects he self-distributed). He was later sued in 2012 for the same thing over the same movie.
* GaryOldman has yet to be paid for ''TheProfessional.''
* David Prowse (the man in [[StarWars Darth Vader's suit]])
that claimed Lucasfilm Hollywood lost $58 billion in profits due to online piracy. [[http://www.slashfilm.com/lucasfilm-tells-darth-vader-that-return-of-the-jedi-hasnt-made-a-profit/ hasn't paid him]] techdirt.com/articles/20120104/04545217274/cato-institute-digs-into-mpaas-own-research-to-show-that-sopa-wouldnt-save-single-net-job.shtml One legal report]] showed that the ''actual'' amount of money lost to piracy was less than 1% of the original claim, and that the only thing piracy effects is redistribution of disposable income for ''ReturnOfTheJedi''.other purposes, and the notion that money not spent on movies disappears from Hollywood wasn't true.
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* David Prowse (the man in [[StarWars Darth Vader's suit]]) claimed Lucasfilm [[http://www.slashfilm.com/lucasfilm-tells-darth-vader-that-return-of-the-jedi-hasnt-made-a-profit/ hasn't paid him]] for ''TheReturnOfJedi''.

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* David Prowse (the man in [[StarWars Darth Vader's suit]]) claimed Lucasfilm [[http://www.slashfilm.com/lucasfilm-tells-darth-vader-that-return-of-the-jedi-hasnt-made-a-profit/ hasn't paid him]] for ''TheReturnOfJedi''.''ReturnOfTheJedi''.
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* GaryOldman has yet to be paid for ''TheProfessional.''

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* GaryOldman has yet to be paid for ''TheProfessional.''''
* David Prowse (the man in [[StarWars Darth Vader's suit]]) claimed Lucasfilm [[http://www.slashfilm.com/lucasfilm-tells-darth-vader-that-return-of-the-jedi-hasnt-made-a-profit/ hasn't paid him]] for ''TheReturnOfJedi''.
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->''Darling! This is the Industry! The really creative people are the accountants. A big studio got over half the profit, after setting breakeven at about three times the cost, taking twenty-five percent of income as an overhead charge, and taking thirty percent of income as a distribution charge, plus rental fees, and prime interest on what they advanced.''
->-- from ''Free Fall in Crimson'' by John D. [=MacDonald=]

->''Well, it's like stupid points. Stupid to take the points. "Won't be any net profits?" You sit there with your points going, "Eeeh, eeh, eeh, eeh, eeh."''
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UsefulNotes/HollywoodAccounting is how a production studio weasels out of paying royalties or anything else based on a percentage of profit: just [[BlatantLies over-estimate]] your expenses, and bingo, there ''is'' no profit, or at least a lot less of it - at least on paper, even if the gross reaches into the billions. Some really outrageous cases have led to lawsuits.

See also BoxOfficeBomb which is about low gross revenue actually happening instead of being on paper.

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UsefulNotes/HollywoodAccounting is how a production studio weasels out of paying royalties or anything else based on a percentage of profit: just [[BlatantLies over-estimate]] your expenses, and bingo, there ''is'' no profit, or at least a lot less of it - at least on paper, even if the gross reaches into the billions. The "expenses" are charged to a separate entity or aspect of the filmmaking process, such as marketing, even though both entities involved are owned by the same film studio. So the studio basically "charges" itself "$100 million" in expenses, pays itself, and avoids having to claim that it made any gross profits. Some really outrageous cases have led to lawsuits.

For this reason, the smart actors in Hollywood will insist on getting a percentage of "gross points" in their contract, i.e. the money directly made ''before'' the studio profits are calculated.

ThatOtherWiki has [[WeAreNotAloneIndex a more in-depth article]] on the subject [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting found here]].

See also BoxOfficeBomb which is about where the movie makes low gross revenue actually happening instead of being for real, not just on paper.



* "Hollywood accounting" is what led to the Writer's Guild of America strike in 2007. The WGA (representing hundreds of film and television writers), in a nutshell, decided to strike because the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers were deadset against increasing DVD royalties for said writers. At the end of the strike, the WGA accepted a minor increase in royalties, far below what they had originally set out to achieve.

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* "Hollywood accounting" is what led to the [[UnionsInHollywood Writer's Guild of America strike America]] [[WritersStrike strike]] in 2007. The WGA (representing hundreds of film and television writers), in a nutshell, decided to strike because the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers were deadset against increasing DVD royalties for said writers. At the end of the strike, the WGA accepted a minor increase in royalties, far below what they had originally set out to achieve.
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* Ben Affleck agreed to take his salary for {{Pearl Harbor}} from the net profits...oops.

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** The film's producer, Bob Yari, later went bankrupt over the suit (along with a number of money-losing project he self-distributed). He was later sued in 2012 for the same thing over the same movie.

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** The film's producer, Bob Yari, later went bankrupt over the suit (along with a number of money-losing project projects he self-distributed). He was later sued in 2012 for the same thing over the same movie.
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** The film's producer, Bob Yari, later went bankrupt over the suit (along with a number of money-losing project he self-distributed). He was later sued in 2012 for the same thing over the same movie.
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* In 2007, Paul Haggis sued the producers of the 2004 film ''{{Crash}}'' for not giving him $4.7 million in unpaid royalties. Studio executives argued that the movie (which was made for $7.5 million, and grossed ten times that amount at the box office) wasn't profitable when the accounting was done. The co-writer (Bobby Moresco) and co-producer (Cathy Schulman) also sued for royalties.

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* In 2007, Paul Haggis sued the producers of the 2004 film ''{{Crash}}'' for not giving him $4.7 million in unpaid royalties. Studio executives argued that the movie (which was made for $7.5 million, and grossed ten times that amount at the box office) wasn't profitable when the accounting was done. The co-writer (Bobby Moresco) and co-producer (Cathy Schulman) also sued for royalties.royalties.
*GaryOldman has yet to be paid for ''TheProfessional.''

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UsefulNotes/HollywoodAccounting is how a film studio weasels out of paying royalties or anything else based on a percentage of profit: just [[BlatantLies over-estimate]] your expenses, and bingo, there ''is'' no profit, or at least a lot less of it - at least on paper, even if the gross reaches into the billions. Some really outrageous cases have led to lawsuits.

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UsefulNotes/HollywoodAccounting is how a film production studio weasels out of paying royalties or anything else based on a percentage of profit: just [[BlatantLies over-estimate]] your expenses, and bingo, there ''is'' no profit, or at least a lot less of it - at least on paper, even if the gross reaches into the billions. Some really outrageous cases have led to lawsuits.



* Ben Afleck agreed to take his salary for {{Pearl Harbor}} from the net profits...oops.

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* Ben Afleck Affleck agreed to take his salary for {{Pearl Harbor}} from the net profits...oops.



* Paramount has never paid any of the ''StarTrek'' actors for the use of their image in any of the merchandising that has been sold for the series, claiming that it has lost money in all of them. It is fairly impressive that they keep producing all this merchandise that does nothing but lose money, isn't it?

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* Paramount has never paid any of the ''StarTrek'' actors for the use of their image in any of the merchandising that has been sold for the series, claiming that it has lost money in all of them. It is fairly impressive that they keep producing all this merchandise that does nothing but lose money, isn't it?it?
* "Hollywood accounting" is what led to the Writer's Guild of America strike in 2007. The WGA (representing hundreds of film and television writers), in a nutshell, decided to strike because the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers were deadset against increasing DVD royalties for said writers. At the end of the strike, the WGA accepted a minor increase in royalties, far below what they had originally set out to achieve.
* In 2007, Paul Haggis sued the producers of the 2004 film ''{{Crash}}'' for not giving him $4.7 million in unpaid royalties. Studio executives argued that the movie (which was made for $7.5 million, and grossed ten times that amount at the box office) wasn't profitable when the accounting was done. The co-writer (Bobby Moresco) and co-producer (Cathy Schulman) also sued for royalties.
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** HarlanEllison, in a clip from his film "Dreams With Sharp Teeth", also discusses his involvement with ''Babylon 5'', notably when Warner Brothers asked him to provide clearance rights for an interview he did during the show's production for inclusion on the DVD set. When he asked what he would be paid, the studio told him that they didn't have enough money in the budget to pay him royalties (in addition to telling him that he'd have to go buy a copy of the DVD set in a store because they couldn't justify sending him a set).
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* Ben Afleck agreed to take his salary for {{Pearl Harbor}} from the net profits...oops.

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* Ben Afleck agreed to take his salary for {{Pearl Harbor}} from the net profits...oops.oops.
* Sigourney Weaver was told that the studio lost money on the original ''{{Ghostbusters}}'', despite it being one of the most successful films ever made, and thus she wasn't going to get any royalties from it. Supposedly she showed up with an army of lawyers and accountants to check the books, and the studio offered her an exorbitant amount of money to appear in the sequel to keep her from looking at them.
* Paramount has never paid any of the ''StarTrek'' actors for the use of their image in any of the merchandising that has been sold for the series, claiming that it has lost money in all of them. It is fairly impressive that they keep producing all this merchandise that does nothing but lose money, isn't it?
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HollywoodAccounting is how a film studio weasels out of paying royalties or anything else based on a percentage of profit: just [[BlatantLies over-estimate]] your expenses, and bingo, there ''is'' no profit, or at least a lot less of it - at least on paper, even if the gross reaches into the billions. Some really outrageous cases have led to lawsuits.

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HollywoodAccounting UsefulNotes/HollywoodAccounting is how a film studio weasels out of paying royalties or anything else based on a percentage of profit: just [[BlatantLies over-estimate]] your expenses, and bingo, there ''is'' no profit, or at least a lot less of it - at least on paper, even if the gross reaches into the billions. Some really outrageous cases have led to lawsuits.

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