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Relatively new troper, sucked in by the {{Community}} page and quickly addicted to everything. Tries to stay relaxed but ironically gets agitated by overly tightly wound folks (and policies). Mild SerialTweaker. Hopefully-reformed NotASubversion perpetrator. Tries to keep WallOfText tendencies in check. Definite {{Splitter}}.
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Sucked in by the {{Community}} page and quickly addicted to everything. Tries to stay relaxed but
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I completely enjoy reading [[HomePage TV Tropes]] and try to add valuable content. But I wish it had some better tools. Like better discussion forums (more nesting, notification options). Like watches on your own edits without watching the whole page. I don't need to see every edit to the Star Trek page, I just want to know if someone disagreed with my contribution, so we can work out the best compromise/neutral example. This is what probably leads to a lot of natter (another temptation I try to control). People don't like to clobber others' entries since they won't be notified unless they're watching the whole page and picking through every change. I hate being on either end of clobbering. Discussion posts can't tag people. Tighter communications and notifications "behind the scenes" of the wiki would make a lot of administration and decision-making smoother. Better independent addressing of pages between the "type of media" and "sub-page type" dimensions would be nice - currently, as I understand it, any sub-page loses its media specification.
I also disagree with the pretense of keeping things encyclopedic at all times. They call it an informal wiki but it occasionally feels like the opposite. People enjoy the site because it offers a chance to see and discuss works ''with others''. ConversationOnTheMainPage is bad. But two conflicting yet calm, concise, informed opinions on the same example isn't conversation. It's good. It adds value to the example via audience perspective. Some tropes are always {{YMMV}}, but tons of potential examples for others can still be seen in different lights. It's absurd to relegate all of these to the {{YMMV}} tab, and sad to suffer the information loss and weasel-wordiness of the neutral phrasing. Similarly, I've seen some "keep fan/audience reaction out of this trope" arguments. That's dumb. Every trope is a trope because it affects the audience in some way. Tropes can be defined by denotation and connotation alike as long as we're cognizant which is which.
Plus documentation of procedures, policies, and syntax could all be better, preferably from a centralized [=ToC=] (and for instance, a link to the [[TextFormattingRules full guide]] from the "Markup Help" button).
Wow, that's a ton of beef huh! I must hate TV Tropes. No! See paragraph two!
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I helped organize and add to the CommonwealthSaga pages. I try and keep an eye on them a couple times a year.
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I also disagree with the pretense of keeping things encyclopedic at all times. They call it an informal wiki but it occasionally feels like the opposite. People enjoy the site because it offers a chance to see and discuss works ''with others''. ConversationOnTheMainPage is bad. But two conflicting yet calm, concise, informed opinions on the same example isn't conversation. It's good. It adds value to the example via audience perspective. Some tropes are always {{YMMV}}, but tons of potential examples for others can still be seen in different lights. It's absurd to relegate all of these to the {{YMMV}} tab, and sad to suffer the information loss and weasel-wordiness of the neutral phrasing. Similarly, I've seen some "keep fan/audience reaction out of this trope" arguments. That's dumb. Every trope is a trope because it affects the audience in some way. Tropes can be defined by denotation and connotation alike as long as we're cognizant which is which.
Plus documentation of procedures, policies, and syntax could all be better, preferably from a centralized [=ToC=] (and for instance, a link to the [[TextFormattingRules full guide]] from the "Markup Help" button).
Wow, that's a ton of beef huh! I must hate TV Tropes. No! See paragraph two!
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I helped organize and add to the CommonwealthSaga pages. I try and keep an eye on them a couple times a year.
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I completely generally enjoy reading [[HomePage TV Tropes]] and try have tried to add valuable content. But content in the past. These days, less so. Mainly, I wish it had some better tools. Other partly, its usage as an outlet for fanboy/girlism has never gone away and always seems to make itself known before too long. Other other partly, while the massive troper count is impressive, any individual work is unlikely to have that many contributors, which means if someone with a lot of time on their hands declares themselves emperor of the page, it's easier to go work on another wiki than bother with the inevitable edit war/endless debates.
My latest beef (which may be quite old to you youngsters) is the move to genericize everything with bland trope titles. I liked the old, referential titles, which entertained if you knew the source and introduced you to new work if you didn't. People can't find it that easily from google? Too goddamn bad! Explore a little bit!
And, I have never edited or even spent much time reading any porn entries, so I mention this only because I just chanced upon the explanation for 5P, but it's a little whack that ALL pornography references had to go, when some works in that genre seemed to have Troperiffic merit. Blanket policies are generally bad. Also, banning porn and child exploitation shit in the same policy is REALLY messed up. You know how many pages are about genocide, universal destruction, murder, torture and gore? Yet porn is as banworthy as pedophilia? This seems like more misguided bullshit to satisfy someone else's twisted moral code to not feel "too weird and scary" for newcomers. Likebetter discussion forums (more nesting, notification options). Like watches on your own edits without watching the whole page. I said, I don't need to see every edit to the Star Trek page, I just want to know if someone disagreed with my contribution, so we can work out the best compromise/neutral example. This is what probably leads to a lot of natter (another temptation I try to control). People don't like to clobber others' entries since they won't be notified unless they're watching the whole page and picking through every change. I hate being on either end of clobbering. Discussion posts can't tag people. Tighter communications and notifications "behind the scenes" of the wiki would make a lot of administration and decision-making smoother. Better independent addressing of pages between the "type of media" and "sub-page type" dimensions would be nice - currently, as I understand it, any sub-page loses its media specification.
I also disagree with the pretense of keeping things encyclopedic at all times. They call it an informal wiki but it occasionally feels like the opposite. People enjoy the site because it offers a chance to see and discuss works ''with others''. ConversationOnTheMainPage is bad. But two conflicting yet calm, concise, informed opinions on the same example isn't conversation. It's good. It adds value to the example via audience perspective. Some tropes are always {{YMMV}}, but tons of potential examples for others can still be seen in different lights. It's absurd to relegate all of these to the {{YMMV}} tab, and sad to suffer the information loss and weasel-wordiness of the neutral phrasing. Similarly,think I've seen some "keep fan/audience reaction out of this trope" arguments. That's dumb. Every trope is a trope because it affects the audience in some way. Tropes can be defined by denotation and connotation alike as long as we're cognizant which is which.
Plus documentation of procedures, policies, and syntax could all be better, preferably from a centralized [=ToC=] (and for instance, a link to the [[TextFormattingRules full guide]] from the "Markup Help" button).
Wow, that's a ton of beef huh! I must hate TV Tropes. No! See paragraph two!
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I helped organize and add to the CommonwealthSaga pages. I try and keep an eye on themactually come across more than a couple times porn articles anyway; this policy just feels representative of the personality-less priorities of Modern TV Tropes.
So...still ayear.
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My latest beef (which may be quite old to you youngsters) is the move to genericize everything with bland trope titles. I liked the old, referential titles, which entertained if you knew the source and introduced you to new work if you didn't. People can't find it that easily from google? Too goddamn bad! Explore a little bit!
And, I have never edited or even spent much time reading any porn entries, so I mention this only because I just chanced upon the explanation for 5P, but it's a little whack that ALL pornography references had to go, when some works in that genre seemed to have Troperiffic merit. Blanket policies are generally bad. Also, banning porn and child exploitation shit in the same policy is REALLY messed up. You know how many pages are about genocide, universal destruction, murder, torture and gore? Yet porn is as banworthy as pedophilia? This seems like more misguided bullshit to satisfy someone else's twisted moral code to not feel "too weird and scary" for newcomers. Like
I also disagree with the pretense of keeping things encyclopedic at all times. They call it an informal wiki but it occasionally feels like the opposite. People enjoy the site because it offers a chance to see and discuss works ''with others''. ConversationOnTheMainPage is bad. But two conflicting yet calm, concise, informed opinions on the same example isn't conversation. It's good. It adds value to the example via audience perspective. Some tropes are always {{YMMV}}, but tons of potential examples for others can still be seen in different lights. It's absurd to relegate all of these to the {{YMMV}} tab, and sad to suffer the information loss and weasel-wordiness of the neutral phrasing. Similarly,
Plus documentation of procedures, policies, and syntax could all be better, preferably from a centralized [=ToC=] (and for instance, a link to the [[TextFormattingRules full guide]] from the "Markup Help" button).
Wow, that's a ton of beef huh! I must hate TV Tropes. No! See paragraph two!
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I helped organize and add to the CommonwealthSaga pages. I try and keep an eye on them
So...still a
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