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** Surprisingly to some, most of Yes' radio staples (including the two above songs) do not contain the Wakeman/White lineup, considered by many as their signature liveup. While ''Yessongs'' was a hit and showed they were plenty capable of performing Kaye and Bruford's earlier material, it wasn't until ''Tales from Topographic Oceans'' that they recorded in studio together.

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** Surprisingly to some, most averted within the material released by what many consider the band's signature ''lineup'', the one with Wakeman and White. "Roundabout" had Bruford on drums, "Owner" had Rabin on guitar and Kaye on keyboards. Most of Yes' other radio staples (including the two above songs) also do not contain the Wakeman/White lineup, considered by many as their signature liveup. lineup. While ''Yessongs'' was a hit and showed they were plenty capable of performing Kaye and Bruford's earlier material, it wasn't until ''Tales from Topographic Oceans'' that they recorded in studio together.together on a Yes album [[note]]White performed on part of Wakeman's ''The Six Wives of Henry VIII'', a medley of which is on ''Yessongs''[[/note]].
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** Surprisingly to some, most of Yes' radio staples (including the two above songs) do not contain the Wakeman/White lineup, considered by many as their signature liveup. While ''Yessongs'' was a hit and showed they were plenty capable of performing Kaye and Bruford's earlier material, it wasn't until ''Tales from Topographic Oceans'' that they recorded in studio together.

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* AdaptationExpansion: The incredibly obscure ''Yes Remixes'' (see AndNowForSomethingCompletelyDifferent below) turns the 37-second "Five Per Cent For Nothing" from ''Fragile'' into a 4:44 dance song. [[AdaptationDistillation Conversely]], the same album condenses the 21:33 "Ritual" way down to 6:20.

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* * AdaptationExpansion: The incredibly obscure ''Yes Remixes'' (see AndNowForSomethingCompletelyDifferent below) AndNowForSomethingCompletelyDifferent) turns the 37-second "Five Per Cent For Nothing" from ''Fragile'' into a 4:44 dance song. [[AdaptationDistillation Conversely]], the same album condenses the 21:33 "Ritual" way down to 6:20.



* Creator/{{Hipgnosis}}: Did the cover art for ''Going for the One'' and ''Tormato''. Storm Thorgerson also directed the video for "Owner of a Lonely Heart".



** One of the reasons Cinema became Yes is that there was already another band called Cinema.

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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: ''Talk'' has only ever had two printings (the initial release in 1994 and a limited re-release in 2002), which means getting a CD of ''Talk'' involves finding a used copy or paying inflated prices for the scarce amount of new ones. And if you want to TakeAThirdOption and buy the mp3 version? It turns out ''Talk'' has never had a legitimate digital release, and is not available in full even on streaming sites like Spotify (some of the album is there, but "Endless Dream" is missing).

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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: ''Talk'' has only ever had two printings (the initial release in 1994 and a limited re-release in 2002), which means getting a CD of ''Talk'' involves finding a used copy or paying inflated prices for the scarce amount of new ones. And if you want to TakeAThirdOption and buy the mp3 version? It turns out ''Talk'' has never had a legitimate digital release, and is not available in full even on streaming sites like Spotify (some of the album is there, used to be available, but "Endless Dream" is missing).as of September 2014 it's vanished entirely).
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* AdaptationExpansion: The incredibly obscure ''Yes Remixes'' (see AndNowForSomethingCompletelyDifferent below) turns the 37-second "Five Per Cent For Nothing" from ''Fragile'' into a 4:44 dance song. [[AdaptationDistillation Conversely]], the same album condenses the 21:33 "Ritual" way down to 6:20.
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** Oliver Wakeman intended to contribute heavily to the writing of ''Fly From Here'' before he was booted out for Geoff Downes. By the time the album was finished, "Into the Storm" was the only piece he worked on that remained.

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** Oliver Wakeman intended to contribute heavily to the writing of ''Fly From Here'' before he was booted out for Geoff Downes. By the time the album was finished, "Into the Storm" was the only piece he worked on that remained.remained.
** On a much darker note, after the low sales of ''Yes'' and ''Time and a Word'', Atlantic Records was seriously considering dropping the band if their third album was also a commercial disappointment. Yes didn't know it at the time, but ''The Yes Album'' was their make-it-or-break-it moment...and they passed with flying colors.

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** "Love Will Find A Way" (peaked at #30) off the ''Big Generator'' album. The song is really a good power ballad (even if it does contain one of the worst lyrics in rock history, "I eat at Chez Nous"), but it sounds like a song any '80s arena rock band could write.* BreakthroughHit: ''The Yes Album'' was the first album of theirs to chart in America, and "Your Move" was their first single to make the Top 40.

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** "Love Will Find A Way" (peaked at #30) off the ''Big Generator'' album. The song is really a good power ballad (even if it does contain one of the worst lyrics in rock history, "I eat at Chez Nous"), but it sounds like a song any '80s arena rock band could write.write.
* BreakthroughHit: ''The Yes Album'' was the first album of theirs to chart in America, and "Your Move" was their first single to make the Top 40.

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* BreakthroughHit: ''The Yes Album'' was the first album of theirs to chart in America, and "Your Move" was their first single to make the Top 40.

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* BlackSheepHit: Almost all of their Top 40 hits in the United States qualify as this:
** "Roundabout" (peaked at #13) still had progressive elements in the song, but it was more controlled compared to most of their '70s output. Even sounds more like a straight-forward rock song if you listen to the radio edit. The original length? 8 minutes and 29 seconds. The radio edit length? ''3 minutes and 27 seconds''.
** "Owner of a Lonely Heart" (peaked at #1) off ''[[NewSoundAlbum 90125]]'' was a catchy New Wave pop rock tune that sounded nothing like the band ever did before then. One of the first mainstream songs to ever use sampling, it was one of the most revolutionary and influential songs of the '80s and the popular MTV video helped introduced the band to a new generation of listeners, many who never knew they were a progressive rock band until then. Play this song to anyone, then play one of their '70s songs, and the listener will think they are two completely different bands.
** "Love Will Find A Way" (peaked at #30) off the ''Big Generator'' album. The song is really a good power ballad (even if it does contain one of the worst lyrics in rock history, "I eat at Chez Nous"), but it sounds like a song any '80s arena rock band could write.
* BreakthroughHit: ''The Yes Album'' was the first album of theirs to chart in America, and "Your Move" was their first single to make the Top 40.

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** Jimmy Page entered the picture yet again when he wanted to collaborate with Bill Bruford in a project he had with Paul Rodgers called "The Firm". Bruford had to decline due to contractual and artistic conflicts, but this ultimately left him free to do ABWH a few years later.



** Rabin, Kaye, Squire, and White originally asked Trevor Horn (who had already committed to be the producer) to sing on the album that would become ''90125''. Horn refused (maybe remembering the poor reception from fans he had received on the ''Drama'' tour). It was only after this that Squire met Anderson at a party and brought him back into the fold.

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** Rabin, Kaye, Squire, and White originally asked Trevor Horn (who had already committed to be the producer) to sing on the album that would become ''90125''. Horn refused (maybe remembering (remembering the poor reception from fans he had received on the ''Drama'' tour). It was only after this that Squire met Anderson at a party and brought him back into the fold.
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** Bill Bruford has said in interviews that the major reason he formed Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe with his former Yes bandmates was the potential to make far more money than he could performing solo. Subverted when he left Yes after ''Union'' a few years later due to feeling artistically constrained, despite the money.

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* DoingItForTheArt: Say what you will about Jon Anderson's lyrical style, hippie persona, and the concept of ''Tales'' in general, but it's clear that the group and Anderson in particular were willing to potentially alienate a large chunk of the fanbase (not to mention Rick Wakeman) to put out an album they felt strongly about.
** Anderson temporarily left the band after ''Big Generator'' because he felt that the writing for the album had been too focused on trying to write hit singles.



** Rick Wakeman wasn't allowed to compose anything on ''Fragile'' for legal reasons, which explains why his solo piece on that album is arranged classical work by Brahms. His contributions on followup ''Close to the Edge'' were credited as "themes" to get around the contractual lockout.

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** Rick Wakeman wasn't allowed to compose anything on ''Fragile'' for legal reasons, which explains why his solo piece on that album is arranged classical work by Brahms. His contributions on followup ''Close to the Edge'' were credited as "themes" [[LoopholeAbuse "themes"]] to get around the contractual lockout.

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** Also most of the participants of the ''Union'' album, due to the overproduction, ExecutiveMeddling and replacement of band contributions with that of session musicians and computer editing in post-production. Rick Wakeman famously calls it "Onion" [[IncrediblyLamePun as it brings tears to his eyes]].

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** Also most of the participants of the ''Union'' album, due to the overproduction, ExecutiveMeddling and replacement of band contributions with that of session musicians and computer editing in post-production. Rick Wakeman famously calls it "Onion" [[IncrediblyLamePun as it brings tears to his eyes]]. The ''Union Live'' album[[note]]The 2011 release of their 1991 tour supporting the album[[/note]] goes so far as to contain '''only one song from ''Union''''', showing just how little regard the band has for it even now.



* [[NotUsingTheZWord Not Using The "Y" Word]]: Some press releases for Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe are bent comically out of shape implying that this band was Yes without ever actually using the name. Yet others explicitly refer to ABWH as a band that in the 70's was called Yes, so Arista Records' lawyers seemed uncertain if they could actually use the word "Yes" or not. [[note]]A later agreement between Arista and Atco Records specified that ABWH could refer to their origins in Yes, but ABWH could not call themselves that.[[/note]]



* [[NotUsingTheZWord Not Using The "Y" Word]]: Some press releases for Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe are bent comically out of shape implying that this band was Yes without ever actually using the name. Yet others explicitly refer to ABWH as a band that in the 70's was called Yes, so Arista Records' lawyers seemed uncertain if they could actually use the word "Yes" or not. [[note]]A later agreement between Arista and Atco Records specified that ABWH could refer to their origins in Yes, but ABWH could not call themselves that.[[/note]]
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* Creator/{{Hipgnosis}}: Did the cover art for ''Going for the One'' and ''Tormato''. Storm Thorgerson also directed the video for "Owner of a Lonely Heart"

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* Creator/{{Hipgnosis}}: Did the cover art for ''Going for the One'' and ''Tormato''.

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* Creator/{{Hipgnosis}}: Did the cover art for ''Going for the One'' and ''Tormato''. Storm Thorgerson also directed the video for "Owner of a Lonely Heart"
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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: ''Talk'' has only ever had two printings (the initial release in 1994 and a limited re-release in 2002), which means getting a CD of ''Talk'' involves finding a used copy or paying inflated prices for the scarce amount of new ones.

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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: ''Talk'' has only ever had two printings (the initial release in 1994 and a limited re-release in 2002), which means getting a CD of ''Talk'' involves finding a used copy or paying inflated prices for the scarce amount of new ones. And if you want to TakeAThirdOption and buy the mp3 version? It turns out ''Talk'' has never had a legitimate digital release, and is not available in full even on streaming sites like Spotify (some of the album is there, but "Endless Dream" is missing).
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* [[NotUsingTheZWord Not Using The "Y" Word]]: Some press releases for Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe are bent comically out of shape implying that this band was Yes without ever actually using the name. Yet others explicitly refer to ABWH as a band that in the 70's was called Yes, so Arista Records' lawyers seemed uncertain if they could actually use the word "Yes" or not. [[note]]A later agreement between Arista and Atco Records specified that ABWH could refer to their origins in Yes, but ABWH could not call themselves that.[[/note]]

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* NamesTheSame: One of the reasons Cinema became Yes is that there was already another band called Cinema.

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** Alan White is not the drummer for Music/{{Oasis}}.
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* AndNowForSomethingCompletelyDifferent: Nestled among their ''many'' compilation albums, Yes also has an officially-authorized remix album, titled ''[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Yes Remixes]]''. It's...extremely different from any other Yes release, with Steve Howe's son Virgil remixing songs like "Heart of the Sunrise" as 2003-era rave songs. Unsurprisingly, it has faded into deep obscurity.

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** Rabin, Kaye, Squire, and White originally asked Trevor Horn (who had already committed to be the producer) to sing on the album that would become ''90125''. Horn refused (maybe remembering the poor reception from fans he had received on the ''Drama'' tour). It was only after this that Squire met Anderson at a party and brought him back into the fold
** ''Fragile'' was originally envisioned as a double album with live tracks. This idea was dropped because of cost concerns and the need to get the album out quickly to pay for Wakeman's instruments.

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** Rabin, Kaye, Squire, and White originally asked Trevor Horn (who had already committed to be the producer) to sing on the album that would become ''90125''. Horn refused (maybe remembering the poor reception from fans he had received on the ''Drama'' tour). It was only after this that Squire met Anderson at a party and brought him back into the fold
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** ''Fragile'' was originally envisioned as a double album with live tracks. This idea was dropped because of cost concerns and the need to get the album out quickly to pay for Wakeman's instruments.instruments.
** The album that became ''Union'' started off as a second Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe album, tentatively titled ''Dialogue''. However, "Take the Water To the Mountain" is the only piece from ''Dialogue'' that ended up making it intact onto ''Union'', with the rest of the tracks remaining unreleased until Jon Anderson finally included some of them in a rarities collection in 2006.
** Oliver Wakeman intended to contribute heavily to the writing of ''Fly From Here'' before he was booted out for Geoff Downes. By the time the album was finished, "Into the Storm" was the only piece he worked on that remained.
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* NamesTheSame: One of the reasons Cinema became Yes is that there was already another band called Cinema.
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** After ''Union'', the record label Victory offered a contract to only the members who had been on the hit eighties albums, ''90125'' and ''Big Generator''. They then made sure an epic length song ("Endless Dream") and an old song by Rabin, "Walls", appeared on the record; the latter, much to Rabin's chagrin. In a bit of poetic justice, the label folded shortly after its release.

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** After ''Union'', the record label Victory offered a contract to record ''Talk'' only to the members who had been on the hit eighties albums, ''90125'' and ''Big Generator''. They then made sure an epic length song ("Endless Dream") and an old song by Rabin, "Walls", appeared on the record; the latter, much to Rabin's chagrin. In a bit of poetic justice, the label folded shortly after its release.
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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: ''Talk'' has only ever had two printings (the initial release in 1994 and a limited re-release in 2002), which means getting a CD of ''Talk'' involves finding a used copy or paying inflated prices for the scarce amount of new ones.
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** This is the reason ''90125'' is a Yes album instead of a Cinema album. Cinema was originally Trevor Rabin, Chris Squire, and Alan White, with Tony Kaye added mainly for live shows (Rabin and Trevor Horn played most of the actual keyboard parts on the album). However, after Jon Anderson joined the fold, the record company insisted that the band be called Yes. Rabin, incidentally, wasn't happy about this, not wanting to be perceived as a replacement for Steve Howe.
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** Eddie Jobson (ex-JethroTull, Music/RoxyMusic, UK and FrankZappa keyboardist/violinist) was recruited to join Yes in 1983 after Tony Kaye (who had recorded some of the keyboard parts as a special guest) had finished his studio work on ''90125''. Jobson and Kaye rehearsed with Yes for the ''90125'' tour, and Jobson participated in the filming of the "top of the skyscraper" part of the video of "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" (though he was largely edited out later), but some personal and musical differences led Jobson to leave the band.

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** Eddie Jobson (ex-JethroTull, Music/RoxyMusic, (ex-Music/RoxyMusic, Music/JethroTull, UK and FrankZappa Music/FrankZappa keyboardist/violinist) was recruited to join Yes in 1983 after Tony Kaye (who had recorded some of the keyboard parts as a special guest) had finished his studio work on ''90125''. Jobson and Kaye rehearsed with Yes for the ''90125'' tour, and Jobson participated in the filming of the "top of the skyscraper" part of the video of "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" (though he was largely edited out later), but some personal and musical differences led Jobson to leave the band.
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* SignatureSong: "Roundabout" from their prog-rock period and "Owner of a Lonely Heart" from their pop-rock period. Yes have had plenty of hits, but these are the two songs ''everyone'' knows.
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** Rabin, Kaye, Squire, and White originally asked Trevor Horn (who had already committed to be the producer) to sing on the album that would become ''90125''. Horn refused (maybe remembering the poor reception from fans he had received on the ''Drama'' tour). It was only after this that Squire met Anderson at a party and brought him back into the fold

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** Rabin, Kaye, Squire, and White originally asked Trevor Horn (who had already committed to be the producer) to sing on the album that would become ''90125''. Horn refused (maybe remembering the poor reception from fans he had received on the ''Drama'' tour). It was only after this that Squire met Anderson at a party and brought him back into the foldfold
** ''Fragile'' was originally envisioned as a double album with live tracks. This idea was dropped because of cost concerns and the need to get the album out quickly to pay for Wakeman's instruments.

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* CreatorBacklash:
** Rick Wakeman dislikes much of ''Tales From Topographic Oceans'', in particular the "filler material" they used to spread the album's pieces across four sides of vinyl.
** Wakeman also disliked ''Tormato'', which influenced the cover choice, and the band themselves have expressed disappointment in its production.
** Also most of the participants of the ''Union'' album, due to the overproduction, ExecutiveMeddling and replacement of band contributions with that of session musicians and computer editing in post-production. Rick Wakeman famously calls it "Onion" [[IncrediblyLamePun as it brings tears to his eyes]].
* ExecutiveMeddling:
** Rick Wakeman wasn't allowed to compose anything on ''Fragile'' for legal reasons, which explains why his solo piece on that album is arranged classical work by Brahms. His contributions on followup ''Close to the Edge'' were credited as "themes" to get around the contractual lockout.
** WordOfGod says that this is how the ''Union'' album of 1991 was sabotaged. Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe were recording their second album in Montserrat, while the official Yes were recording the followup to ''Big Generator'' in Los Angeles, while looking for a replacement for Jon Anderson (Billy Sherwood and [[{{Supertramp}} Roger Hodgson]] were considered candidates). ABWH's label, Arista, wanted more commercial material, and felt it would sell more copies if ABWH were called Yes. Arista approached Yes to contribute material for ABWH. Trevor Rabin reluctantly sent Arista demos of "Lift Me Up" and "Saving My Heart" for Jon to sing on. Squire and Billy Sherwood sent "The More We Live--Let Go". Meanwhile, Anderson sang backing vocals on Yes' project. Arista assembled all of the Yes and ABWH recordings, plus a Bill Bruford/Tony Levin instrumental, a Steve Howe acoustic solo piece, and "The More We Live" into ''Union''. Adding to the meddling was producer Jonathan Elias, who, as Arista wanted the project completed on schedule, changed guitar and keyboard parts Howe and Wakeman recorded for the band, and added myriad session musicians from L.A. to finish off Howe and Wakeman's playing without even any input from Wakeman or Howe.
** After ''Union'', the record label Victory offered a contract to only the members who had been on the hit eighties albums, ''90125'' and ''Big Generator''. They then made sure an epic length song ("Endless Dream") and an old song by Rabin, "Walls", appeared on the record; the latter, much to Rabin's chagrin. In a bit of poetic justice, the label folded shortly after its release.
* FranchiseKiller: ''Union'' killed the band commercially, and all their albums since been released on indie labels, though the band is still an in-demand live act. Conversely, ''Drama'' looked like it would be this...before the band came back for ''90125''.



* FranchiseKiller: ''Union'' killed the band commercially, and all their albums since been released on indie labels, though the band is still an in-demand live act. Conversely, ''Drama'' looked like it would be this...before the band came back for ''90125''
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* FranchiseKiller: ''Union'' killed the band commercially, and all their albums since been released on indie labels. Conversely, ''Drama'' looked like it would be this...before the band came back for ''90125''

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* ThrowItIn: ''Literally'' led to the final cover of ''Tormato''. Hipgnosis had been showing Yes the photographs taken for the cover at the Yes Tor, when the album was still planned to be named ''Yes Tor'', when a frustrated Wakeman threw a tomato at one of the images, annoyed by how poor he felt the proposal was. Hipgnosis ended up incorporating the effect into the final cover, and the album was renamed ''Tormato''.

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* ThrowItIn: ''Literally'' ThrowItIn:
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led to the final cover of ''Tormato''. Hipgnosis had been showing Yes the photographs taken for the cover at the Yes Tor, when the album was still planned to be named ''Yes Tor'', when a frustrated Wakeman threw a tomato at one of the images, annoyed by how poor he felt the proposal was. Hipgnosis ended up incorporating the effect into the final cover, and the album was renamed ''Tormato''.''Tormato''.
** The percussion rig of scrap parts being knocked over in "The Gates of Delirium" was an accident.
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* FranchiseKiller: ''Union'' killed the band commercially, and has been on indie labels since. Conversely, ''Drama'' looked like it would be this...before the band came back for ''90125''

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