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* PlayingAgainstType: At the time this was made, Creator/PeterCapaldi was best known for playing MagnificentBastard AntiHero Malcolm Tucker in ''Series/TheThickOfIt'' -- a man with no scruples or shame over the corrupt government he works for. He plays John Frobisher, a ButtMonkey AntiVillain who is so ashamed of his government's acts he [[spoiler:commits suicide after murdering his family]] to spare his family from [[spoiler:being turned over to the 456]]. The two characters are polar opposites.

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* PlayingAgainstType: At the time this was made, Creator/PeterCapaldi was best known for playing MagnificentBastard AntiHero Malcolm Tucker in ''Series/TheThickOfIt'' -- a man with no scruples or shame over the corrupt government he works for. He plays John Frobisher, a ButtMonkey AntiVillain who is so ashamed of his government's acts he [[spoiler:commits suicide after murdering his family]] to spare his family from [[spoiler:being turned over to the 456]]. The two characters are polar opposites.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear (Martha in all the episodes and Mickey in the last two), but Creator/FreemaAgyeman was [[Series/LawAndOrderUK busy]], as was Creator/NoelClarke for a film shoot. They hoped Martha could still make a cameo in the first episode, but even that was eventually scrapped. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime The End of Time]]"- we are led to think it was [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E13LastOfTheTimeLords Tom Milligan]] up to the reveal that [[PairTheSpares Martha actually married Mickey]]) and unable to help the team. As a result, Lois Habiba was created as a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute for Martha, spying on the government officials for Torchwood using the Eye-5s.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear (Martha in all the episodes and Mickey in the last two), but Creator/FreemaAgyeman was [[Series/LawAndOrderUK busy]], as was Creator/NoelClarke for a film shoot. They hoped Martha could still make a cameo in the first episode, but even that was eventually scrapped. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime The End of Time]]"- Time]]'' - we are led to think assume it was [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E13LastOfTheTimeLords Tom Milligan]] up to the reveal that [[PairTheSpares Martha actually married Mickey]]) and unable to help the team. As a result, Lois Habiba was created as a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute for Martha, spying on the government officials for Torchwood using the Eye-5s.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear, but Creator/FreemaAgyeman was [[Series/LawAndOrderUK busy]], as was Creator/NoelClarke for a film shoot. They hoped Martha could still make a cameo in the first episode, but even that was eventually scrapped. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime The End of Time]]"- we are led to think it was [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E13LastOfTheTimeLords Tom Milligan]] up to the reveal that [[PairTheSpares Mickey really married Martha]]) and unable to help the team.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear, appear (Martha in all the episodes and Mickey in the last two), but Creator/FreemaAgyeman was [[Series/LawAndOrderUK busy]], as was Creator/NoelClarke for a film shoot. They hoped Martha could still make a cameo in the first episode, but even that was eventually scrapped. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime The End of Time]]"- we are led to think it was [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E13LastOfTheTimeLords Tom Milligan]] up to the reveal that [[PairTheSpares Mickey really Martha actually married Martha]]) Mickey]]) and unable to help the team.team. As a result, Lois Habiba was created as a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute for Martha, spying on the government officials for Torchwood using the Eye-5s.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear, but Creator/FreemaAgyeman was [[Series/LawAndOrderUK busy]], as was Noel Clarke for a film shoot. They hoped Martha could still make a cameo in the first episode, but even that was eventually scrapped. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime The End of Time]]"- we are led to think it was [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E13LastOfTheTimeLords Tom Milligan]] up to the reveal that [[PairTheSpares Mickey really married Martha]]) and unable to help the team.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear, but Creator/FreemaAgyeman was [[Series/LawAndOrderUK busy]], as was Noel Clarke Creator/NoelClarke for a film shoot. They hoped Martha could still make a cameo in the first episode, but even that was eventually scrapped. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime The End of Time]]"- we are led to think it was [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E13LastOfTheTimeLords Tom Milligan]] up to the reveal that [[PairTheSpares Mickey really married Martha]]) and unable to help the team.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear, but Creator/FreemaAgyeman was [[Series/LawAndOrderUK busy]], as was Noel Clarke for a film shoot. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime The End of Time]]"- we are led to think it was [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E13LastOfTheTimeLords Tom Milligan]] up to the reveal that [[PairTheSpares Mickey really married Martha]]) and unable to help the team.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear, but Creator/FreemaAgyeman was [[Series/LawAndOrderUK busy]], as was Noel Clarke for a film shoot. They hoped Martha could still make a cameo in the first episode, but even that was eventually scrapped. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime The End of Time]]"- we are led to think it was [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E13LastOfTheTimeLords Tom Milligan]] up to the reveal that [[PairTheSpares Mickey really married Martha]]) and unable to help the team.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear in ''Children of Earth'', but Creator/FreemaAgyeman was [[Series/LawAndOrderUK busy]], as was Noel Clarke for a film shoot. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s ''The End of Time''- we are led to think it was [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E13LastOfTheTimeLords Tom Milligan]] up to the reveal that [[PairTheSpares Mickey really married Martha]]) and unable to help the team.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear in ''Children of Earth'', appear, but Creator/FreemaAgyeman was [[Series/LawAndOrderUK busy]], as was Noel Clarke for a film shoot. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s ''The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime The End of Time''- Time]]"- we are led to think it was [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E13LastOfTheTimeLords Tom Milligan]] up to the reveal that [[PairTheSpares Mickey really married Martha]]) and unable to help the team.

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* PlayingAgainstType: Creator/PeterCapaldi as plays a government official ''very'' different from [[Series/TheThickOfIt Malcolm Tucker]].
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear in ''Children of Earth'', but Creator/FreemaAgyeman was [[Series/LawAndOrderUK busy]], as was Noel Clarke for a film shoot. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s ''The End of Time''- we are led to think it was [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E13LastOfTheTimeLords Tom Milligan]] up to the reveal that [[PairTheSpares Mickey really married Martha]]) and unable to help the team.

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* PlayingAgainstType: At the time this was made, Creator/PeterCapaldi as plays was best known for playing MagnificentBastard AntiHero Malcolm Tucker in ''Series/TheThickOfIt'' -- a man with no scruples or shame over the corrupt government official ''very'' different he works for. He plays John Frobisher, a ButtMonkey AntiVillain who is so ashamed of his government's acts he [[spoiler:commits suicide after murdering his family]] to spare his family from [[Series/TheThickOfIt Malcolm Tucker]].
[[spoiler:being turned over to the 456]]. The two characters are polar opposites.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear in ''Children of Earth'', but Creator/FreemaAgyeman was [[Series/LawAndOrderUK busy]], as was Noel Clarke for a film shoot. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s ''The End of Time''- we are led to think it was [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E13LastOfTheTimeLords Tom Milligan]] up to the reveal that [[PairTheSpares Mickey really married Martha]]) and unable to help the team.team.
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* PlayingAgainstType: Creator/PeterCapaldi as plays a government official ''very'' different from [[Series/TheThickOfIt Malcolm Tucker]].
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* HeyItsThatGuy: John Frobisher is played by '''[[Creator/PeterCapaldi PETER.]] [[Series/TheThickOfIt FUCKING.]] [[Creator/PeterCapaldi CAPALDI.]]''' You might know him better as [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E2TheFiresOfPompeii Lobus Caecilius]] or [[Recap/DoctorWho2013CSTheTimeOfTheDoctor the Twelfth Doctor]].
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear in ''Children of Earth'', but Creator/FreemaAgyeman was [[Series/LawAndOrderUK busy]], as was Creator/NoelClarke for a film shoot. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s ''The End of Time''- we are led to think it was [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E13LastOfTheTimeLords Tom Milligan]] up to the reveal that [[PairTheSpares Mickey really married Martha]]) and unable to help the team.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear in ''Children of Earth'', but Creator/FreemaAgyeman was [[Series/LawAndOrderUK busy]], as was Creator/NoelClarke Noel Clarke for a film shoot. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s ''The End of Time''- we are led to think it was [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E13LastOfTheTimeLords Tom Milligan]] up to the reveal that [[PairTheSpares Mickey really married Martha]]) and unable to help the team.

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* HeyItsThatGuy: John Frobisher is played by '''[[Creator/PeterCapaldi PETER.]] [[Series/TheThickOfIt FUCKING.]] [[Creator/PeterCapaldi CAPALDI.]]'''
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear in ''Children of Earth'', but Creator/FreemaAgyeman was [[Series/LawAndOrderUK busy]]. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s ''The End of Time'') and unable to help the team.

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* HeyItsThatGuy: John Frobisher is played by '''[[Creator/PeterCapaldi PETER.]] [[Series/TheThickOfIt FUCKING.]] [[Creator/PeterCapaldi CAPALDI.]]'''
]]''' You might know him better as [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E2TheFiresOfPompeii Lobus Caecilius]] or [[Recap/DoctorWho2013CSTheTimeOfTheDoctor the Twelfth Doctor]].
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear in ''Children of Earth'', but Creator/FreemaAgyeman was [[Series/LawAndOrderUK busy]]. busy]], as was Creator/NoelClarke for a film shoot. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s ''The End of Time'') Time''- we are led to think it was [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E13LastOfTheTimeLords Tom Milligan]] up to the reveal that [[PairTheSpares Mickey really married Martha]]) and unable to help the team.

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* HeyItsThatGuy: [[Series/TheThickOfIt Malcolm Tucker.]] It's actually a little jarring, because while both characters are government workers, Frobisher is rather quiet and meek, compared to Tucker's assertive, angry nature.
** The actor also plays the father of the Roman family in the DoctorWho episode "The Fires of Pompeii" and would go on to play the Twelfth Doctor.

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* HeyItsThatGuy: John Frobisher is played by '''[[Creator/PeterCapaldi PETER.]] [[Series/TheThickOfIt Malcolm Tucker.FUCKING.]] It's actually a little jarring, because while both characters are government workers, Frobisher is rather quiet and meek, compared to Tucker's assertive, angry nature.
** The actor also plays the father of the Roman family in the DoctorWho episode "The Fires of Pompeii" and would go on to play the Twelfth Doctor.
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* HeyItsThatGuy: [[TheThickOfIt Malcolm Tucker.]] It's actually a little jarring, because while both characters are government workers, Frobisher is rather quiet and meek, compared to Tucker's assertive, angry nature.

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* HeyItsThatGuy: [[TheThickOfIt [[Series/TheThickOfIt Malcolm Tucker.]] It's actually a little jarring, because while both characters are government workers, Frobisher is rather quiet and meek, compared to Tucker's assertive, angry nature.
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** The actor also plays the father of the Roman family in the DoctorWho episode "The Fires of Pompeii" [[spoiler: and would go on to play the Twelfth Doctor]].

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** The actor also plays the father of the Roman family in the DoctorWho episode "The Fires of Pompeii" [[spoiler: and would go on to play the Twelfth Doctor]].Doctor.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear in ''Children of Earth'', but Creator/FreemaAgyeman was [[LawAndOrderUK busy]]. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s ''The End of Time'') and unable to help the team.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear in ''Children of Earth'', but Creator/FreemaAgyeman was [[LawAndOrderUK [[Series/LawAndOrderUK busy]]. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s ''The End of Time'') and unable to help the team.
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** The actor also plays the father of the Roman family in the DoctorWho episode "The Fires of Pompeii".

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** The actor also plays the father of the Roman family in the DoctorWho episode "The Fires of Pompeii".Pompeii" [[spoiler: and would go on to play the Twelfth Doctor]].
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** The actor also plays the father of the Roman family in theDoctorWho episode "The Fires of Pompeii".

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** The actor also plays the father of the Roman family in theDoctorWho the DoctorWho episode "The Fires of Pompeii".
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** The actor also plays the father of the Roman family in theDoctorWho episode "The Fires of Pompeii".
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear in ''Children of Earth'', but FreemaAgyeman was [[LawAndOrderUK busy]]. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s ''The End of Time'') and unable to help the team.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear in ''Children of Earth'', but FreemaAgyeman Creator/FreemaAgyeman was [[LawAndOrderUK busy]]. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s ''The End of Time'') and unable to help the team.
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* HeyItsThatGuy: [[TheThickOfIt Malcolm Tucker.]] It's actually a little jarring, because while both characters are government workers, Frobisher is rather quiet and meek, compared to Tucker's assertive, angry nature.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Martha Jones and Mickey Smith were supposed to appear in ''Children of Earth'', but FreemaAgyeman was [[LawAndOrderUK busy]]. The two are [[WrittenInAbsence explained away as being on their honeymoon]] (though we don't know it's them married until ''Doctor Who'''s ''The End of Time'') and unable to help the team.

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