History Trivia / TheUltimates

* ExecutiveMeddling: Millar was not allowed to actually use the name "Avengers" due to Marvel believing that the brand recognition was dead in the water at the time. Millar even stated that Marvel tried to offer him an ''Ultimate Wolverine'' book in an attempt to dissuade him. However Creator/KurtBusiek would later reveal that he requested that Marvel not use the ''ComicBook/{{Avengers}}'' name so his work on the mainstream title would not be overshadowed.

* WorkingTitle: ''Ultimate Avengers'' but the name couldn't be used as Creator/KurtBusiek didn't want the series to overshadow his work on ''ComicBook/{{Avengers}}''.

* ExecutiveMeddling: Millar was not allowed to actually use the name "Avengers" due to Marvel believing that the brand recognition was dead in the water at the time. Millar even stated that Marvel tried to offer him an ''Ultimate Wolverine'' book in an attempt to dissuade him. However Creator/KurtBusiek would later reveal that he requested that Marvel not use the ''ComicBook/Avengers'' name so his work on the mainstream title would not be overshadowed.

** Millar and Hitch were working on a story titled ''Civil War''. Then Millar got the chance to write Marvel's crisis crossover of the year, so he declined that project, and adapted some of his ideas to the ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' comic instead.

* WorkingTitle: ''Ultimate Avengers'' but the name couldn't be used as Creator/KurtBusiek didn't want the series to overshadow his work on ''ComicBook/Avengers''.

* ExecutiveMeddling: Millar was not allowed to actually use the name "Avengers" due to Marvel believing that the brand recognition was dead in the water at the time. Millar even stated that Marvel tried to offer him an ''Ultimate Wolverine'' book in an attempt to dissuade him.

* WorkingTitle: ''Ultimate Avengers'' but the name couldn't be used as Marvel believed the brand recognition was dead at the time.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The comic makes it very clear that UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush is the President of the United States. Along with commentary on UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror, various talk shows having characters make appearances on them (such as Creator/DavidLetterman, who would retire not long after his appearance here), and references to celebrities who were popular at the time (like Creator/FreddiePrinzeJr), the first two Creator/MarkMillar penned volumes are unmistakenly set in the [[TurnOfTheMillennium 2000s]].

** The writers did not actually consult with Creator/SamuelLJackson to use his likeness in the comics for Nick Fury. If they weren't able to work things out amicably, the series would have very likely resulted in being ScrewedByTheLawyers.

** In Hitch's case at least, this can be mostly excused due to his SugarWiki/AwesomeArt

* ScrewedByTheLawyers: While averted, they came very close to being sued as a result of using Creator/SamuelLJackson's likeness without his permission. Mr. Jackson was willing to back off when they offered him a role as Nick Fury in their [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse upcoming movie franchise]].

* BigNameFan: When Creator/MarkMillar and Bryan Hitch made the ultimate version of Nick Fury, they based him on the likeness of the actor Creator/SamuelLJackson. When Marvel started the MCU years later, Jackson was an obvious choice. But when they asked him, they did not need to explain what was it all about: Jackson was already a big fan of the Ultimates.

* AwesomeDearBoy: Mark Millar actively pushed for Marvel to create an ComicBook/UltimateMarvel version of the Avengers, of which he was a huge fan.
* BigNameFan: When Mark Millar and Bryan Hitch made the ultimate version of Nick Fury, they based him on the likeness of the actor Creator/SamuelLJackson. When Marvel started the MCU years later, Jackson was an obvious choice. But when they asked him, they did not need to explain what was it all about: Jackson was already a big fan of the Ultimates.

** Millar considered [[RaceLift Race Lifting]] Steve Rogers into a black man.

* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The comic makes it very clear that UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush is the President of the United States. Along with commentary on the UsefulNotes/WarOnTerror, various talk shows having characters make appearances on them (such as Creator/DavidLetterman, who would retire not long after his appearance here), and references to celebrities who were popular at the time (like Creator/FreddiePrinzeJr), the first two Creator/MarkMillar penned volumes are unmistakenly set in the [[TurnOfTheMillennium 2000s]].

* AwesomeDearBoy: Mark Millar actively pushed for Marvel to create an ComicBook/UltimateMarvel version of the Avengers, of which he was a huge fan of.

* AwesomeDearBoy: Mark Millar actively pushed for Marvel to create an UltimateMarvel version of the Avengers, of which he was a huge fan of.

** In Hitch's case at least, this can be mostly excused due to his AwesomeArt

* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The comic makes it very clear that UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush is the President of the United States. Along with commentary on the UsefulNotes/WarOnTerror, various talk shows having characters make appearances on them, and references to celebrities who were popular at the time (like Creator/FreddiePrinzeJr), the first two Creator/MarkMillar penned volumes are unmistakenly set in the [[TurnOfTheMillennium 2000s]].

* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Millar and Hitch were working on a story titled ''Civil War''. Then Millar got the chance to write Marvel's crisis crossover of the year, so he declined that project, and adapted some of his ideas to the ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' comic instead.

** In Hitch's case at least, this can be mostly excused due to his AwesomeArt

* ScheduleSlip: Four storylines were illustrated by Bryan Hitch (Ultimates, Ultimates 2), Joe Madureira (Ultimates 3) and Frank Cho (New Ultimates) all suffered from this.

* DidNotDoTheResearch: A revived Steve Rogers disbelieves SHIELD staff due to their commander, a black Nick Fury, claiming to be a General. Claiming that the highest ranking Black officer is the Army is a captain. In reality, there'd been a Brigadier at the time (one star General, as opposed to Fury's four, but still) and many Captains, Majors and Colonels.
** Also, JephLoeb using elements of 616 characters that contradict the established Ultimate versions. Minor examples: Thor's hammer, Sabertooth's claws. Major examples: Valkyrie and poor, poor Pyro.
*** To be honest, Loeb [[TheyJustDidntCare didn't care to do any research]] before writing his 'contributions' to the series, so it's hardly surprising.
** Banner is tried for 852 counts of murder in New York, which has no death penalty, yet everyone states that it would be an instant death sentence if Banner is found culpable. Admittedly, if there were anything that would make New York reconsider their stance on the matter...