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* ScienceMarchesOn: Tolkien firmly believed that space travel was physically impossible; in ''The Notion Club Papers'', which takes place in 1987, it still hasn't been accomplished. About a decade later, Yuri Gagarin would prove him wrong.
** However, as of 2019 ''interstellar'' travel, at least within a human lifetime, remains not only practically but theoretically impossible within our present understanding of physics. Things like hyperspace and warp drive are science fantasy, not technological extrapolations.
** However, as of 2019 ''interstellar'' travel, at least within a human lifetime, remains not only practically but theoretically impossible within our present understanding of physics. Things like hyperspace and warp drive are science fantasy, not technological extrapolations.
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* ScienceMarchesOn: Tolkien firmly believed that space travel was physically impossible; in ''The Notion Club Papers'', which takes place in 1987, it still hasn't been accomplished. About a decade later, Yuri Gagarin would prove him wrong.
** However,wrong (However, as of 2019 2023 ''interstellar'' travel, at least within a human lifetime, remains not only practically but theoretically impossible within our present understanding of physics. Things like hyperspace and warp drive are science fantasy, not technological extrapolations.physics).
** However,
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* WriteWhatYouKnow: "The Fall of Gondolin" from ''The Book of Lost Tales'' part 2 is clearly inspired by Tolkien's then-recent experiences in UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, down to Morgoth's mechanical dragons evoking the early tanks used in the war.
* WriteWhoYouKnow: "The Notion Club Papers" is an AffectionateParody of Tolkien's own experiences with the Inklings--in particular, Michael Ramer resembles Creator/CSLewis and Alwin Arundel Lowdham resembles Tolkien himself. Also, [[AuthorAvatar Author Avatars]] Alwin Arundel Lowdham from that story and Alboin Erroll from ''The Lost Road'' are both linguists.
** In the first draft, Loudham (thus spelt) instead was a parody of the Inklings' BRIAN BLESSED-loquacious Hugo Dyson.
* WriteWhoYouKnow: "The Notion Club Papers" is an AffectionateParody of Tolkien's own experiences with the Inklings--in particular, Michael Ramer resembles Creator/CSLewis and Alwin Arundel Lowdham resembles Tolkien himself. Also, [[AuthorAvatar Author Avatars]] Alwin Arundel Lowdham from that story and Alboin Erroll from ''The Lost Road'' are both linguists.
** In the first draft, Loudham (thus spelt) instead was a parody of the Inklings' BRIAN BLESSED-loquacious Hugo Dyson.
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* WriteWhatYouKnow: "The Fall of Gondolin" ''Literature/TheFallOfGondolin'' from ''The Book of Lost Tales'' part 2 is clearly inspired by Tolkien's then-recent experiences in UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, down to Morgoth's mechanical dragons evoking the early tanks used in the war.
* WriteWhoYouKnow: "The Notion Club Papers" is an AffectionateParody of Tolkien's own experiences with the Inklings--in particular, Michael Ramer resembles Creator/CSLewis and Alwin Arundel Lowdham resembles Tolkien himself. Also, [[AuthorAvatar Author Avatars]] Alwin Arundel Lowdham from that story and Alboin Erroll from ''The Lost Road'' are bothlinguists.
**linguists. In the first draft, Loudham (thus spelt) instead was a parody of the Inklings' BRIAN BLESSED-loquacious Hugo Dyson.Dyson.
* WriteWhoYouKnow: "The Notion Club Papers" is an AffectionateParody of Tolkien's own experiences with the Inklings--in particular, Michael Ramer resembles Creator/CSLewis and Alwin Arundel Lowdham resembles Tolkien himself. Also, [[AuthorAvatar Author Avatars]] Alwin Arundel Lowdham from that story and Alboin Erroll from ''The Lost Road'' are both
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* NamesTheSame: Tolkien changed names of characters and locations at least once with every draft or linguistic revision, and also recycled old ones. Names that would later be applied to well-known characters in ''The Lord of the Rings'' show up many years before that book was conceived, attached to completely unrelated characters.
** For example, one Gimli first appears in the "Tale of Tinuviel" (written in 1918-1920) as a "Gnome"[[note]]which, strangely enough, at this stage was a synonym for Noldorin Elf[[/note]] and fellow prisoner of Beren in Tevildo's kitchens.
** Legolas Greenleaf was first the name of an elf leading the fleeing people of Gondolin over the plains of Tumladen and over the pass of the Cirith Thoronarth.
** Even within the ''Silmarillion'' part of the legendarium, names sometimes switch places bizarrely. For a short time Beren was named Maglor.
** For example, one Gimli first appears in the "Tale of Tinuviel" (written in 1918-1920) as a "Gnome"[[note]]which, strangely enough, at this stage was a synonym for Noldorin Elf[[/note]] and fellow prisoner of Beren in Tevildo's kitchens.
** Legolas Greenleaf was first the name of an elf leading the fleeing people of Gondolin over the plains of Tumladen and over the pass of the Cirith Thoronarth.
** Even within the ''Silmarillion'' part of the legendarium, names sometimes switch places bizarrely. For a short time Beren was named Maglor.
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* ScienceMarchesOn: Tolkien firmly believed that space travel was physically impossible; in ''The Notion Club Papers'', which takes place in 1987, it still hasn't been accomplished. About a decade later, Sputnik would prove him wrong.
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* ScienceMarchesOn: Tolkien firmly believed that space travel was physically impossible; in ''The Notion Club Papers'', which takes place in 1987, it still hasn't been accomplished. About a decade later, Sputnik Yuri Gagarin would prove him wrong.
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**However, as of 2019 ''interstellar'' travel, at least within a human lifetime, remains not only practically but theoretically impossible within our present understanding of physics. Things like hyperspace and warp drive are science fantasy, not technological extrapolations.
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* AccidentallyAccurate: Tolkien seems to have acquired the gift of prophecy whilst writing ''The Notion Club Papers'' in 1944, given that he gives 1987 as the date of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Storm_of_1987 the greatest storm ever to hit England]].
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* AccidentallyAccurate: AccidentallyCorrectWriting: Tolkien seems to have acquired the gift of prophecy whilst writing ''The Notion Club Papers'' in 1944, given that he gives 1987 as the date of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Storm_of_1987 the greatest storm ever to hit England]].
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* WriteWhatYouKnow: "The Fall of Gondolin" from ''The Book of Lost Tales'' part 2 is clearly inspired by Tolkien's then-recent experiences in WorldWarOne, down to Morgoth's mechanical dragons evoking the early tanks used in the war.
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* WriteWhatYouKnow: "The Fall of Gondolin" from ''The Book of Lost Tales'' part 2 is clearly inspired by Tolkien's then-recent experiences in WorldWarOne, UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, down to Morgoth's mechanical dragons evoking the early tanks used in the war.
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* NamesTheSame: Tolkien changed names of characters and locations at least once with every draft or linguistic revision, and also recycled old ones. Names that would later be applied to well-known characters in ''The Lord of the Rings'' show up many years before that book was conceived, attached to completely unrelated characters.
** For example, one Gimli first appears in the "Tale of Tinuviel" (written in 1918-1920) as a "Gnome"[[note]]which, strangely enough, at this stage was a synonym for Noldorin Elf[[/note]] and fellow prisoner of Beren in Tevildo's kitchens.
** Legolas Greenleaf was first the name of an elf leading the fleeing people of Gondolin over the plains of Tumladen and over the pass of the Cirith Thoronarth.
** Even within the ''Silmarillion'' part of the legendarium, names sometimes switch places bizarrely. For a short time Beren was named Maglor.
* ScienceMarchesOn: Tolkien firmly believed that space travel was physically impossible; in ''The Notion Club Papers'', which takes place in 1987, it still hasn't been accomplished. About a decade later, Sputnik would prove him wrong.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The point of the ''History''.
* WriteWhatYouKnow: "The Fall of Gondolin" from ''The Book of Lost Tales'' part 2 is clearly inspired by Tolkien's then-recent experiences in WorldWarOne, down to Morgoth's mechanical dragons evoking the early tanks used in the war.
* WriteWhoYouKnow: "The Notion Club Papers" is an AffectionateParody of Tolkien's own experiences with the Inklings--in particular, Michael Ramer resembles Creator/CSLewis and Alwin Arundel Lowdham resembles Tolkien himself. Also, [[AuthorAvatar Author Avatars]] Alwin Arundel Lowdham from that story and Alboin Erroll from ''The Lost Road'' are both linguists.
** For example, one Gimli first appears in the "Tale of Tinuviel" (written in 1918-1920) as a "Gnome"[[note]]which, strangely enough, at this stage was a synonym for Noldorin Elf[[/note]] and fellow prisoner of Beren in Tevildo's kitchens.
** Legolas Greenleaf was first the name of an elf leading the fleeing people of Gondolin over the plains of Tumladen and over the pass of the Cirith Thoronarth.
** Even within the ''Silmarillion'' part of the legendarium, names sometimes switch places bizarrely. For a short time Beren was named Maglor.
* ScienceMarchesOn: Tolkien firmly believed that space travel was physically impossible; in ''The Notion Club Papers'', which takes place in 1987, it still hasn't been accomplished. About a decade later, Sputnik would prove him wrong.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The point of the ''History''.
* WriteWhatYouKnow: "The Fall of Gondolin" from ''The Book of Lost Tales'' part 2 is clearly inspired by Tolkien's then-recent experiences in WorldWarOne, down to Morgoth's mechanical dragons evoking the early tanks used in the war.
* WriteWhoYouKnow: "The Notion Club Papers" is an AffectionateParody of Tolkien's own experiences with the Inklings--in particular, Michael Ramer resembles Creator/CSLewis and Alwin Arundel Lowdham resembles Tolkien himself. Also, [[AuthorAvatar Author Avatars]] Alwin Arundel Lowdham from that story and Alboin Erroll from ''The Lost Road'' are both linguists.
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The \"Great Explosion\" on the \"Atomic Reservation\" in Notion Club Papers happened in 1970, not 1987.
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* AccidentallyAccurate: Tolkien seems to have acquired the gift of prophecy whilst writing ''The Notion Club Papers'' in 1944, given that he gives 1986 as the date of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_disaster a space programme disaster]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster a nuclear disaster]], and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Storm_of_1987 the greatest storm ever to hit England]]. The last one was a few months out — in RealLife it happened in 1987.
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* AccidentallyAccurate: Tolkien seems to have acquired the gift of prophecy whilst writing ''The Notion Club Papers'' in 1944, given that he gives 1986 1987 as the date of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_disaster a space programme disaster]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster a nuclear disaster]], and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Storm_of_1987 the greatest storm ever to hit England]]. The last one was a few months out — in RealLife it happened in 1987.
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* AccidentallyAccurate: Tolkien seems to have acquired the gift of prophecy whilst writing ''The Notion Club Papers'' in 1944, given that he gives 1986 as the date of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_disaster a space programme disaster]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster a nuclear disaster]], and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Storm_of_1987 the greatest storm ever to hit England]]. The last one was a few months out — in RealLife it happened in 1987.
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