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-->''[rambles on with back turned away from viewer]''

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-->''[rambles on with back turned away from viewer]''hands out of view]''
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-->'''Riva:''' So concieted, always doing things to get people killed...

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-->'''Riva:''' So concieted, conceited, always doing things to get people killed...
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* ShownTheirWork: More of the fact that the actor involved is truly deaf, but the episode features real American sign language, as confirmed in a [[https://www.reddit.com/r/asl/comments/2u8kft/the_star_trek_tng_episode_loud_as_a_whisper/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 reddit thread by deaf individuals and interpreters.]] After a trio of translators for Riva, a deaf mediator, are slain by a rogue soldier... (All text featured here for Riva is signed, not spoken, and as such, not understood by the hearing characters):

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* ShownTheirWork: More of the fact that the actor involved is truly deaf, but the episode features real American sign language, as confirmed in a [[https://www.reddit.com/r/asl/comments/2u8kft/the_star_trek_tng_episode_loud_as_a_whisper/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 reddit thread by deaf individuals and interpreters.]] After a trio of translators for Riva, a deaf mediator, are Riva's Chorus is slain by a rogue soldier... (All text featured here for Riva is signed, not spoken, and as such, not understood by the hearing characters):
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* ShownTheirWork: More of the fact that the actor involved is truly deaf, but the episode features real American sign language, as confirmed in a [[https://www.reddit.com/r/asl/comments/2u8kft/the_star_trek_tng_episode_loud_as_a_whisper/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 reddit thread by deaf individuals and interpreters.]] After a trio of translators for Riva, a deaf mediator, are slain by a rogue soldier... (All text featured here for Riva is signed, not spoken, and as such, not understood by the hearing characters):
-->'''Riva:''' So concieted, always doing things to get people killed...
-->''[rambles on with back turned away from viewer]''
-->'''Riva:''' Over and over...and now they're dead! What will we do now?
-->'''Picard:''' How did this happen?
-->'''Riker:''' A total surprise. Apparently a member of one of the factions didn't like the idea of peace.
-->'''Riva:''' I need time to think...
-->''[runs hands through hair in frustration]''
-->'''Picard:''' I don't understand what you're trying to say. ''[turns to Troi]'' Counselor?
-->'''Riva:''' I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to myself!
-->'''Troi:''' Riva, go slowly.
-->'''Riva:''' What?!
-->'''Troi:''' Slowly.
-->'''Riva:''' I'm not talking to him anyway.
-->'''Picard:''' Can you write it out?
-->'''Riva:''' No! Leave me alone!
-->'''Picard:''' I am so sorry that your friends were killed.
-->'''Riva:''' I don't need your pity!
-->'''Riva:''' I'm tired of all of you hearing people not understanding me! I'm not talking to you anyway.
-->'''Picard:''' I'm sorry, I-I don't know what you are trying to tell me. We have to find some way to communicate with him.
-->'''Riva:''' I'm tired of you hearing people! AGH!
-->'''Picard:''' Data, he knows some kind of gestural language. Find out which one and learn it.
-->'''Data:''' Aye, sir.
-->'''Picard:''' Counselor, take him to Sick Bay. Maybe Pulaski can help.
-->'''Riva:''' '''''I - my friends are dead!'''''
-->''[Picard grabs Riva's head]''
-->'''Picard:''' Listen to me! You are not alone! Do you understand?! We are all in this together!... Now!
-->''[Riva calms down and nods]''
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* DisabledCharacterDisabledActor: The actor who portrayed Riva, Howie Seago, was actually deaf. In fact, he had petitioned the producers of the show to make an episode about deaf people, mostly to dispel myths about them. He suggested the resolution after the initial script had a quite different ending, which had Riva learning to speak overnight after being unable to use a translator.
* PromotedFanboy: Howie Seago was a huge fan of ''Trek'' and a regular on Usenet newsgroups.
* YouLookFamiliar: This is the first appearance of Randy Oglesby, who would have numerous roles in the TNG era shows before recurring as Degra in Season 3 of ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise''.

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* DisabledCharacterDisabledActor: The actor who portrayed Riva, Howie Seago, Creator/HowieSeago, was actually deaf. In fact, he had petitioned the producers of the show to make an episode about deaf people, mostly to dispel myths about them. He suggested the resolution after the initial script had a quite different ending, which had Riva learning to speak overnight after being unable to use a translator.
* PromotedFanboy: Howie Seago Creator/HowieSeago was a huge fan of ''Trek'' and a regular on Usenet newsgroups.
* YouLookFamiliar: This is the first appearance of Randy Oglesby, Creator/RandyOglesby, who would have numerous roles in the TNG era shows before recurring as Degra in Season 3 of ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise''.
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* PromotedFanboy: Howie Seago was a huge fan of ''Trek'' and a regular on Usenet newsgroups. He basically become a JustForFun/OneOfUs on ''TNG'' for the newsgroups.

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* PromotedFanboy: Howie Seago was a huge fan of ''Trek'' and a regular on Usenet newsgroups. He basically become a JustForFun/OneOfUs on ''TNG'' for the newsgroups.
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* DisabledCharacterDisabledActor: The actor who portrayed Riva, Howie Seago, was actually deaf. In fact, he pushed for the episode to be made, and suggested the resolution after the initial script had a quite different ending, which had Riva learning to speak overnight after being unable to use a translating machine.

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* DisabledCharacterDisabledActor: The actor who portrayed Riva, Howie Seago, was actually deaf. In fact, he pushed for had petitioned the producers of the show to make an episode about deaf people, mostly to be made, and dispel myths about them. He suggested the resolution after the initial script had a quite different ending, which had Riva learning to speak overnight after being unable to use a translating machine.translator.
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* PromotedFanboy: Howie Seago was a huge fan of ''Trek'' and a regular on Usenet newsgroups. He basically become a OneOfUs on ''TNG'' for the newsgroups.

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* PromotedFanboy: Howie Seago was a huge fan of ''Trek'' and a regular on Usenet newsgroups. He basically become a OneOfUs JustForFun/OneOfUs on ''TNG'' for the newsgroups.

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* AscendedFanboy: Howie Seago was a huge fan of ''Trek'' and a regular on Usenet newsgroups. He basically become a OneOfUs on ''TNG'' for the newsgroups.


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* PromotedFanboy: Howie Seago was a huge fan of ''Trek'' and a regular on Usenet newsgroups. He basically become a OneOfUs on ''TNG'' for the newsgroups.
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* AscendedFanboy: Howie Seago was a huge fan of ''Trek'' and a regular on Usenet newsgroups. He basically become a OneOfUs on ''TNG'' for the newsgroups.
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* DisabledCharacterDisabledActor: The actor who portrayed Riva, Howie Seago, was actually deaf. In fact, he pushed for the episode to be made, and suggested the resolution after the initial script had a quite different ending.

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* DisabledCharacterDisabledActor: The actor who portrayed Riva, Howie Seago, was actually deaf. In fact, he pushed for the episode to be made, and suggested the resolution after the initial script had a quite different ending.ending, which had Riva learning to speak overnight after being unable to use a translating machine.
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* YouLookFamiliar: This is the first appearance of Randy Oglesby, who would have numerous roles in the TNG era shows before recurring as Degra in Season 3 of ENT.

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* YouLookFamiliar: This is the first appearance of Randy Oglesby, who would have numerous roles in the TNG era shows before recurring as Degra in Season 3 of ENT.''Series/StarTrekEnterprise''.
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* DisabledCharacterDisabledActor: The actor who portrayed Riva, Howie Seago, was actually deaf.

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* DisabledCharacterDisabledActor: The actor who portrayed Riva, Howie Seago, was actually deaf. In fact, he pushed for the episode to be made, and suggested the resolution after the initial script had a quite different ending.

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* DisabledCharacterDisabledActor: The actor who portrayed Riva was actually deaf.

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* DisabledCharacterDisabledActor: The actor who portrayed Riva Riva, Howie Seago, was actually deaf.deaf.
* YouLookFamiliar: This is the first appearance of Randy Oglesby, who would have numerous roles in the TNG era shows before recurring as Degra in Season 3 of ENT.
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* DisabledCharacterDisabledActor: The actor who portrayed Riva was actually deaf.

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