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* KillerApp: {{invoked}}. CBS are hoping to push (American) membership in their premium streaming service, "CBS All Access," by making it the only way to get at this show. In fairness, this has been an effective tactic for Creator/{{Netflix}} (''Series/HouseOfCardsUS'', ''Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack''), and Creator/{{HBO}} has been doing it for years (''Series/GameOfThrones'', ''Series/TheSopranos'', etc).

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* KillerApp: {{invoked}}.{{Invoked}}. CBS are hoping to push (American) membership in their premium streaming service, "CBS All Access," by making it the only way to get at this show. In fairness, this has been an effective tactic for Creator/{{Netflix}} (''Series/HouseOfCardsUS'', ''Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack''), and Creator/{{HBO}} has been doing it for years (''Series/GameOfThrones'', ''Series/TheSopranos'', etc).
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* KillerApp: {{invoked}}. CBS are hoping to push (American) membership in their premium streaming service, "CBS All Access," by making it the only way to get at this show. In fairness, this has been an effective tactic for Creator/{{Netflix}} (''Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack''), and Creator/{{HBO}} has been doing it for years (''Series/GameOfThrones'', ''Series/TheSopranos'', etc).

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* KillerApp: {{invoked}}. CBS are hoping to push (American) membership in their premium streaming service, "CBS All Access," by making it the only way to get at this show. In fairness, this has been an effective tactic for Creator/{{Netflix}} (''Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack''), (''Series/HouseOfCardsUS'', ''Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack''), and Creator/{{HBO}} has been doing it for years (''Series/GameOfThrones'', ''Series/TheSopranos'', etc).
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* KillerApp: {{invoked}}. CBS are hoping to push (American) membership in their premium streaming service, "CBS All Access," by making it the only way to get at this show. In fairness, this has been an effective tactic for Creator/{{Netflix}} (''Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack''), and Creator/HBO has been doing it for years (''Series/GameOfThrones'', ''Series/TheSopranos'', etc).

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* KillerApp: {{invoked}}. CBS are hoping to push (American) membership in their premium streaming service, "CBS All Access," by making it the only way to get at this show. In fairness, this has been an effective tactic for Creator/{{Netflix}} (''Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack''), and Creator/HBO Creator/{{HBO}} has been doing it for years (''Series/GameOfThrones'', ''Series/TheSopranos'', etc).
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* KillerApp: {{invoked}}. CBS are hoping to push (American) membership in their premium streaming service, "CBS All Access," by making it the only way to get at this show. In fairness, this has been an effective tactic for Creator/{{Netflix}} (''Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack''), and Creator/HBO has been doing it for years (''Series/GameOfThrones'', ''Series/TheSopranos'', etc).
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* BadExportForYou: Inverted. In all countries ''besides'' the US, the show is available on Netflix, updating weekly. American viewers must buy a subscription to CBS All Access to watch.
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* TheOtherDarrin:
** James Frain is playing Sarek, who was previously portrayed by Mark Lenard in the original and TNG, and Ben Cross in the 2009 movie.
** Creator/RainnWilson will be playing Harcourt Fenton "Harry" Mudd, who was previously portrayed by Roger C. Carmel.

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Author Appeal and History Repeats are not Trivia.


* AuthorAppeal: Despite Bryan Fuller leaving before the start of production, Michael continues his trend of female characters with typically male names.



* HistoryRepeats: A real-life example. Fans complaining that the evident changes in this series make it "not real ''Star Trek''" or even that it's somehow against the spirit of the original apparently are unaware of [[https://i.imgur.com/JG7pt9U.jpg the accusations launched against]] ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' back in the late 80's. According to one news article, fans were saying such things as "To throw away everything except for the title, Trekkies will never accept it" and "Even the title sounds like bad news, it's like a generic title somebody slaps on an inferior show just to get the name recognition." These sound very similar to the complaints being made about ''Discovery'', which is especially ironic since many who are dumping on this show are simultaneously holding up TNG as an example of what "real ''Trek''" should be.

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* HistoryRepeats: A real-life example. Fans complaining ExecutiveMeddling: Ex-showrunner Bryan Fuller has claimed that he intended for the evident changes in this uniforms to be more reminiscent of the original series and wanted to make it "not real each season as some kind of anthology, but Creator/{{CBS}} pushed for a new uniform design and a serialized storyline. While Fuller has worked in ''Star Trek''" or even Trek'' shows previously, his collaborator Aaron Harberts has since become showrunner and is relatively fresh, and has made a few misstatements (see below) about the show's history.
* {{Jossed}}: One bit of generally accepted ''Star Trek'' non-canon had
that it's somehow the Klingons had acquired cloaking technology from the Romulans during a brief period of alliance against the spirit of the original Federation. Here it's clearly stated that Klingon cloaking technology is an innovation T'Kuvma was responsible for developing, even though this technology was apparently are unaware of [[https://i.imgur.com/JG7pt9U.jpg not shared among all the accusations launched against]] ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' back in Houses of the late 80's. According to one news article, fans were saying such things as "To throw away everything except for the title, Trekkies will never accept it" and "Even the title sounds like bad news, it's like a generic title somebody slaps on an inferior show just to get the name recognition." These sound very similar to the complaints being made about ''Discovery'', which is especially ironic since many who are dumping on this show are simultaneously holding up TNG as an example of what "real ''Trek''" should be.Empire.



* {{Jossed}}: One bit of generally accepted ''Star Trek'' non-canon had that the Klingons had acquired cloaking technology from the Romulans during a brief period of alliance against the Federation. Here it's clearly stated that Klingon cloaking technology is an innovation T'Kuvma was responsible for developing, even though this technology was apparently not shared among all the Houses of the Empire.



* TroubledProduction:
** The series had a hell of a time getting off the ground, with the production and airing delays, and critiques of various producers or other creatives announced to be working on the show. This included intended show runner Bryan Fuller leaving the job in favor of focusing on his adaptation of ''Literature/AmericanGods'', causing a lot of grumbling from fans who were looking forward to his special touch being applied to a whole ''Trek'' series after he'd written several popular episodes of ''Deep Space Nine'' and ''Voyager'', as well as his roles in several past cult series.

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* TroubledProduction:
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TroubledProduction: The series had a hell of a time getting off the ground, with the production and airing delays, and critiques of various producers or other creatives announced to be working on the show. This included intended show runner Bryan Fuller leaving the job in favor of focusing on his adaptation of ''Literature/AmericanGods'', causing a lot of grumbling from fans who were looking forward to his special touch being applied to a whole ''Trek'' series after he'd written several popular episodes of ''Deep Space Nine'' and ''Voyager'', as well as his roles in several past cult series.
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* {{Jossed}}: One bit of generally accepted ''Star Trek'' non-canon had that the Klingons had acquired cloaking technology from the Romulans during a brief period of alliance against the Federation. Here it's clearly stated that Klingon cloaking technology is an innovation T'Kuvma was responsible for developing.

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* {{Jossed}}: One bit of generally accepted ''Star Trek'' non-canon had that the Klingons had acquired cloaking technology from the Romulans during a brief period of alliance against the Federation. Here it's clearly stated that Klingon cloaking technology is an innovation T'Kuvma was responsible for developing.developing, even though this technology was apparently not shared among all the Houses of the Empire.
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* AuthorAppeal: Despite Bryan Fuller leaving before the start of production, Michael continues his trend of female characters with typically male names.
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* DuelingShows: It's shaping up to rival ''Series/TheOrville''. One is a parody of Star Trek, and one plays it completely straight, both with a cast of veteran character actors, and both with vastly superior special effects than any previous ''Star Trek'' series.

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* DuelingShows: It's shaping up to rival ''Series/TheOrville''. One is a parody an AffectionateParody of Star Trek, ''Franchise/StarTrek'', and one plays it completely straight, both with a cast of veteran character actors, and both with vastly superior special effects than any previous ''Star Trek'' series.

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* DuelingShows: It's shaping up to rival ''Series/TheOrville''. One is a parody of Star Trek, and one plays it completely straight, both with a cast of veteran character actors, and both with vastly superior special effects than any previous Star Trek Series.

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* DuelingShows: It's shaping up to rival ''Series/TheOrville''. One is a parody of Star Trek, and one plays it completely straight, both with a cast of veteran character actors, and both with vastly superior special effects than any previous Star Trek Series.''Star Trek'' series.



* NotScreenedForCritics: In mid September 2017, CBS embargoed any reviews of the new series being released before its premiere, normally a bad sign for any production. However, [[http://nerdist.com/star-trek-discovery-first-reactions-positive/ early reactions turned out to be quite positive]].



** In mid September 2017, [[NotScreenedForCritics CBS embargoed any reviews of the new series being released before its premiere]], normally a bad sign for any production. However, [[http://nerdist.com/star-trek-discovery-first-reactions-positive/ early reactions turned out to be quite positive]].

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** In mid September 2017, [[NotScreenedForCritics CBS embargoed any reviews of the new series being released before its premiere]], normally a bad sign for any production. However, [[http://nerdist.com/star-trek-discovery-first-reactions-positive/ early reactions turned out to be quite positive]].----
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* ScheduleSlip: The first episode was supposed to premiere in January 2017 but this was later pushed back to May. January 24 brought news that they had finally started filming the pilot. Les Moonves, the head of CBS, later stated that the series would start airing in the "late summer or fall" of 2017. The delays led to ''Series/TheGoodFight'' being moved up to take its place as the debut series for CBS All Access. It's official premiere date is September 24, 2017

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* ScheduleSlip: The first episode was supposed to premiere in January 2017 but this was later pushed back to May. January 24 brought news that they had finally started filming the pilot. Les Moonves, the head of CBS, later stated that the series would start airing in the "late summer or fall" of 2017. The delays led to ''Series/TheGoodFight'' being moved up to take its place as the debut series for CBS All Access. It's Its official premiere date is ended up on September 24, 20172017.
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* {{Jossed}}: One bit of generally accepted ''Star Trek'' non-canon had that the Klingons had acquired cloaking technology from the Romulans during a brief period of alliance against the Federation. Here it's clearly stated that Klingon cloaking technology is an innovation T'Kuvma was responsible for developing.
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** In mid September 2017, [[NotScreenedForCritics CBS embargoed any reviews of the new series being released before it's premiere]], normally a bad sign for any production. However, [[http://nerdist.com/star-trek-discovery-first-reactions-positive/ early reactions turned out to be quite positive]].

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** In mid September 2017, [[NotScreenedForCritics CBS embargoed any reviews of the new series being released before it's its premiere]], normally a bad sign for any production. However, [[http://nerdist.com/star-trek-discovery-first-reactions-positive/ early reactions turned out to be quite positive]].

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* TroubledProduction: The series had a hell of a time getting off the ground, with the production and airing delays, and critiques of various producers or other creatives announced to be working on the show. This included intended show runner Bryan Fuller leaving the job in favor of focusing on his adaptation of ''Literature/AmericanGods'', causing a lot of grumbling from fans who were looking forward to his special touch being applied to a whole ''Trek'' series after he'd written several popular episodes of ''Deep Space Nine'' and ''Voyager'', as well as his roles in several past cult series. In mid September 2017, [[NotScreenedForCritics CBS embargoed any reviews of the new series being released before it's premiere]], normally a bad sign for any production.

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* TroubledProduction: TroubledProduction:
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The series had a hell of a time getting off the ground, with the production and airing delays, and critiques of various producers or other creatives announced to be working on the show. This included intended show runner Bryan Fuller leaving the job in favor of focusing on his adaptation of ''Literature/AmericanGods'', causing a lot of grumbling from fans who were looking forward to his special touch being applied to a whole ''Trek'' series after he'd written several popular episodes of ''Deep Space Nine'' and ''Voyager'', as well as his roles in several past cult series.
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In mid September 2017, [[NotScreenedForCritics CBS embargoed any reviews of the new series being released before it's premiere]], normally a bad sign for any production.production. However, [[http://nerdist.com/star-trek-discovery-first-reactions-positive/ early reactions turned out to be quite positive]].
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* TroubledProduction: The series had a hell of a time getting off the ground, with the production and airing delays, and critiques of various producers or other creatives announced to be working on the show. This included intended show runner Bryan Fuller leaving the job in favor of focusing on his adaptation of ''Literature/AmericanGods'', causing a lot of grumbling from fans who were looking forward to his special touch being applied to a whole ''Trek'' series after he'd written several popular episodes of ''Deep Space Nine'' and ''Voyager'', as well as his roles in several past cult series. In mid September 2017, CBS embargoed any reviews of the new series being released before it's premiere, normally a bad sign for any production.

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* TroubledProduction: The series had a hell of a time getting off the ground, with the production and airing delays, and critiques of various producers or other creatives announced to be working on the show. This included intended show runner Bryan Fuller leaving the job in favor of focusing on his adaptation of ''Literature/AmericanGods'', causing a lot of grumbling from fans who were looking forward to his special touch being applied to a whole ''Trek'' series after he'd written several popular episodes of ''Deep Space Nine'' and ''Voyager'', as well as his roles in several past cult series. In mid September 2017, [[NotScreenedForCritics CBS embargoed any reviews of the new series being released before it's premiere, premiere]], normally a bad sign for any production.
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** James Frain is playing Sarek, who was previously portrayed by Mark Lenard.

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** James Frain is playing Sarek, who was previously portrayed by Mark Lenard.Lenard in the original and TNG, and Ben Cross in the 2009 movie.
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* TroubledProduction: The series had a hell of a time getting off the ground, with the production and airing delays, and critiques of various producers or other creatives announced to be working on the show. This included intended show runner Bryan Fuller leaving the job in favor of focusing on his adaptation of ''Literature/AmericanGods'', causing a lot of grumbling from fans who were looking forward to his special touch being applied to a whole ''Trek'' series after he'd written several popular episodes of ''Deep Space Nine'' and ''Voyager'', as well as his roles in several past cult series.

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* TroubledProduction: The series had a hell of a time getting off the ground, with the production and airing delays, and critiques of various producers or other creatives announced to be working on the show. This included intended show runner Bryan Fuller leaving the job in favor of focusing on his adaptation of ''Literature/AmericanGods'', causing a lot of grumbling from fans who were looking forward to his special touch being applied to a whole ''Trek'' series after he'd written several popular episodes of ''Deep Space Nine'' and ''Voyager'', as well as his roles in several past cult series. In mid September 2017, CBS embargoed any reviews of the new series being released before it's premiere, normally a bad sign for any production.
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* HistoryRepeats: A real-life example. Fans complaining that the evident changes in this series make it "not real ''Star Trek''" or even that it's somehow against the spirit of the original apparently are unaware of the accusations launched against ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' back in the late 80's. According to one news article, fans were saying such things as "To throw away everything except for the title, Trekkies will never accept it" and "Even the title sounds like bad news, it's like a generic title somebody slaps on an inferior show just to get the name recognition." These sound very similar to the complaints being made about ''Discovery'', which is especially ironic since many who are dumping on this show are simultaneously holding up TNG as an example of what "real ''Trek''" should be.

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* HistoryRepeats: A real-life example. Fans complaining that the evident changes in this series make it "not real ''Star Trek''" or even that it's somehow against the spirit of the original apparently are unaware of [[https://i.imgur.com/JG7pt9U.jpg the accusations launched against against]] ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' back in the late 80's. According to one news article, fans were saying such things as "To throw away everything except for the title, Trekkies will never accept it" and "Even the title sounds like bad news, it's like a generic title somebody slaps on an inferior show just to get the name recognition." These sound very similar to the complaints being made about ''Discovery'', which is especially ironic since many who are dumping on this show are simultaneously holding up TNG as an example of what "real ''Trek''" should be.
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* ScheduleSlip: The first episode was supposed to premiere in January 2017 but this was later pushed back to May, then in January it was announced they might even need to delay. January 24 brought news that they had finally started filming the pilot. Les Moonves, the head of CBS, has since stated that the series would start airing in the "late summer or fall" of 2017. The delays led to ''Series/TheGoodFight'' being moved up to take its place as the debut series for CBS All Access.

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* ScheduleSlip: The first episode was supposed to premiere in January 2017 but this was later pushed back to May, then in January it was announced they might even need to delay.May. January 24 brought news that they had finally started filming the pilot. Les Moonves, the head of CBS, has since later stated that the series would start airing in the "late summer or fall" of 2017. The delays led to ''Series/TheGoodFight'' being moved up to take its place as the debut series for CBS All Access. It's official premiere date is September 24, 2017
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* HistoryRepeats: A real-life example. Fans complaining that the evident changes in this series make it "not real ''Star Trek''" or even that it's somehow against the spirit of the original apparently are unaware of the accusations launched against ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' back in the late 80's. According to one news article, fans were saying such things as "To throw away everything except for the title, Trekkies will never accept it" and "Even the title sounds like bad news, it's like a generic title somebody slaps on an inferior show just to get the name recognition." These sound very similar to the complaints being made about ''Discovery'', which is especially ironic since many who are dumping on this show are simultaneously holding up TNG as an example of what "real ''Trek''" should be.
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* ScheduleSlip: The first episode was supposed to premiere in January 2017 but this was later pushed back to May, then in January it was announced they might even need to delay. January 24 brought news that they had finally started filming the pilot. Les Moonves, the head of CBS, has since stated that the series would start airing in the "late summer or fall" of 2017.

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* ScheduleSlip: The first episode was supposed to premiere in January 2017 but this was later pushed back to May, then in January it was announced they might even need to delay. January 24 brought news that they had finally started filming the pilot. Les Moonves, the head of CBS, has since stated that the series would start airing in the "late summer or fall" of 2017. The delays led to ''Series/TheGoodFight'' being moved up to take its place as the debut series for CBS All Access.
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* DuelingSeries: It's shaping up to rival ''Series/TheOrville''. One is a parody of Star Trek, and one plays it completely straight, both with a cast of veteran character actors, and both with vastly superior special effects than any previous Star Trek Series.

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* DuelingSeries: DuelingShows: It's shaping up to rival ''Series/TheOrville''. One is a parody of Star Trek, and one plays it completely straight, both with a cast of veteran character actors, and both with vastly superior special effects than any previous Star Trek Series.
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* DuelingSeries: It's shaping up to rival ''Series/TheOrville''. One is a parody of Star Trek, and one plays it completely straight, both with a cast of veteran character actors, and both with vastly superior special effects than any previous Star Trek Series.
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* TheOtherDarrin:
** James Frain is playing Sarek, who was previously portrayed by Mark Lenard.
** Creator/RainnWilson will be playing Harcourt Fenton "Harry" Mudd, who was previously portrayed by Roger C. Carmel.
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* ScheduleSlip: The first episode was supposed to premiere in January 2017 but this was later pushed back to May, then in January it was announced they might even need to delay. January 24 brought news that they had finally started filming the pilot.

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* ScheduleSlip: The first episode was supposed to premiere in January 2017 but this was later pushed back to May, then in January it was announced they might even need to delay. January 24 brought news that they had finally started filming the pilot. Les Moonves, the head of CBS, has since stated that the series would start airing in the "late summer or fall" of 2017.
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They didn't say that there was no date. Simply that the priority was to 'do it right, not fast.'


* ScheduleSlip: The first episode was supposed to premiere in January 2017 but this was later pushed back to May, then in January it was announced they no longer had a hard-and-fast release date. January 24 brought news that they had finally started filming the pilot.

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* ScheduleSlip: The first episode was supposed to premiere in January 2017 but this was later pushed back to May, then in January it was announced they no longer had a hard-and-fast release date.might even need to delay. January 24 brought news that they had finally started filming the pilot.
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* ScheduleSlip: The first episode was supposed to premiere in January 2017 but this was later pushed back to May, then in January it was announced they no longer had a hard-and-fast release date. January 24 brought news that they had finally started filming the pilot.
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Changed for a bit more accuracy. Technically, there has been exactly one official airing delay (as of this writing).


* TroubledProduction: The series had a hell of a time getting off the ground, with numerous delays in production and then airing. This included intended show runner Bryan Fuller leaving the job in favor of focusing on his adaptation of ''Literature/AmericanGods'', causing a lot of grumbling from fans who were looking forward to his special touch being applied to a whole ''Trek'' series after he'd written several popular episodes of ''Deep Space Nine'' and ''Voyager''.

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* TroubledProduction: The series had a hell of a time getting off the ground, with numerous delays in the production and then airing. airing delays, and critiques of various producers or other creatives announced to be working on the show. This included intended show runner Bryan Fuller leaving the job in favor of focusing on his adaptation of ''Literature/AmericanGods'', causing a lot of grumbling from fans who were looking forward to his special touch being applied to a whole ''Trek'' series after he'd written several popular episodes of ''Deep Space Nine'' and ''Voyager''.''Voyager'', as well as his roles in several past cult series.
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* TroubledProduction: The series had a hell of a time getting off the ground, with numerous delays in production and then airing. This included intended show runner Bryan Fuller leaving the job in favor of focusing on his adaptation of ''Literature/AmericanGods'', causing a lot of grumbling from fans who were looking forward to his special touch being applied to a whole ''Trek'' series after he'd written several popular episodes of ''Deep Space Nine'' and ''Voyager''.

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