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** The duo were the first choice to write and direct ''Film/ScaryMovie 3'', but turned in a script that barely parodied horror films at all, and instead mostly spoofed ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' and ''Franchise/TheLordOfTheRings''. In the duo's defense, their script was written in 2001, which was an '''awful''' year for the horror genre -- there were no real high-profile horror releases at all that year, outside of ''Film/TheOthers2001'' and ''Film/JeepersCreepers'', and maybe ''Literature/{{Hannibal}}'' and ''Film/DonnieDarko'' if you're being generous -- but the studio quickly realized that they were more interested in just getting cheap laughs from whatever happened to be popular rather than sticking to what they were actually meant to be spoofing, resulting in them being canned and replaced by David Zucker, who himself is a veteran in the parody genre, having co-written and directed ''Film/{{Airplane!}}, ''Film/TopSecret'', and ''Film/TheNakedGun'' trilogy, as director.

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** The duo were the first choice to write and direct ''Film/ScaryMovie 3'', but turned in a script that barely parodied horror films at all, and instead mostly spoofed ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' and ''Franchise/TheLordOfTheRings''. In the duo's defense, their script was written in 2001, which was an '''awful''' year for the horror genre -- there were no real high-profile horror releases at all that year, outside of ''Film/TheOthers2001'' and ''Film/JeepersCreepers'', and maybe ''Literature/{{Hannibal}}'' and ''Film/DonnieDarko'' if you're being generous -- but the studio quickly realized that they were more interested in just getting cheap laughs from whatever happened to be popular rather than sticking to what they were actually meant to be spoofing, resulting in them being canned and replaced by David Zucker, who himself is a veteran in the parody genre, having co-written co-written, co-produced, and directed ''Film/{{Airplane!}}, co-directed ''Film/{{Airplane}}'', ''Film/TopSecret'', and ''Film/TheNakedGun'' trilogy, trilogy alongside his brother Jerry and business partner Jim Abrahams, as director.
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* GenreKiller: The works of Seltzer and Friedberg (starting with ''Film/DateMovie'' in 2006) have been blamed for killing parody movies. While they were able to make a profit for many of their parodies despite low critic and audience ratings, mostly thanks to using a low production budget and being among the only game in town when it came to parodies, the deathblow to the genre came in the form of the lackluster reception of ''Film/{{Disaster Movie|2008}}'', leading to audiences having become fed up with the usual formula and finding better parody material from independent creators online. Though their next movie, ''Film/VampiresSuck'', was seen as a slightly better movie than most of their other work, mostly because they actually decided to watch the movies they were making fun of for once, the damage to the genre was already done. Even [[DamnedByFaintPraise slightly better ones]] like ''Film/SuperheroMovie'' (probably not helped by being named in the same "<name of genre> Movie" style used by S&F) have been lumped in with their disasters. And making matters even worse was how [[FollowTheLeader far too many creators who were looking for a quick buck]] was able to easily replicate the Seltzer/Friedberg-formula to a T, oversaturating the market with failed [[ShallowParody shallow parodies]] that only caused further damage to the genre.

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* GenreKiller: The works of Seltzer and Friedberg (starting with ''Film/DateMovie'' in 2006) have been blamed for killing parody (or at least spoof) movies. While they were able to make a profit for many of their parodies despite low critic and audience ratings, mostly thanks to using a low production budget and being among the only game in town when it came to parodies, the deathblow to the genre came in the form of the lackluster reception of ''Film/{{Disaster Movie|2008}}'', leading to audiences having become fed up with the usual formula and finding better parody material from independent creators online. Though their next movie, ''Film/VampiresSuck'', was seen as a slightly better movie than most of their other work, mostly because they actually decided to watch the movies they were making fun of for once, the damage to the genre was already done. Even [[DamnedByFaintPraise slightly better ones]] like ''Film/SuperheroMovie'' (probably not helped by being named in the same "<name of genre> Movie" style used by S&F) have been lumped in with their disasters. And making matters even worse was how [[FollowTheLeader far too many creators who were looking for a quick buck]] was able to easily replicate the Seltzer/Friedberg-formula to a T, oversaturating over-saturating the market with failed [[ShallowParody shallow parodies]] that only caused further damage to the genre.genre (although it has made somewhat of a comeback as of late).



** The duo were the first choice to write and direct ''Film/ScaryMovie 3'', but turned in a script that barely parodied horror films at all, and instead mostly spoofed ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' and ''Franchise/TheLordOfTheRings''. In the duo's defence their script was written in 2001, which was an '''awful''' year for the horror genre -- there were no real high-profile horror releases at all that year, outside of ''Film/TheOthers2001'' and ''Film/JeepersCreepers'', and maybe ''Literature/{{Hannibal}}'' and ''Film/DonnieDarko'' if you're being generous -- but the studio quickly realized that they were more interested in just getting cheap laughs from whatever happened to be popular rather than sticking to what they were actually meant to be spoofing, resulting in them being canned and replaced by David Zucker.

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** The duo were the first choice to write and direct ''Film/ScaryMovie 3'', but turned in a script that barely parodied horror films at all, and instead mostly spoofed ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' and ''Franchise/TheLordOfTheRings''. In the duo's defence defense, their script was written in 2001, which was an '''awful''' year for the horror genre -- there were no real high-profile horror releases at all that year, outside of ''Film/TheOthers2001'' and ''Film/JeepersCreepers'', and maybe ''Literature/{{Hannibal}}'' and ''Film/DonnieDarko'' if you're being generous -- but the studio quickly realized that they were more interested in just getting cheap laughs from whatever happened to be popular rather than sticking to what they were actually meant to be spoofing, resulting in them being canned and replaced by David Zucker.Zucker, who himself is a veteran in the parody genre, having co-written and directed ''Film/{{Airplane!}}, ''Film/TopSecret'', and ''Film/TheNakedGun'' trilogy, as director.
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* GenreKiller: The works of Seltzer and Friedberg (starting with ''Film/DateMovie'' in 2006) have been blamed for killing parody movies. While they were able to make a profit for many of their parodies despite low critic and audience ratings, mostly thanks to using a low production budget and being among the only game in town when it came to parodies, the deathblow to the genre came in the form of the lackluster reception of ''Film/{{Disaster Movie|2008}}'', leading to audiences having become fed up with the usual formula and finding better parody material from independent creators online. Though their next movie, ''Film/VampiresSuck'', was seen as a slightly better movie than most of their other work, mostly because they actually decided to watch the movies they were making fun of for once, the damage to the genre was already done. Even [[DamnedByFaintPraise slightly better ones]] like ''Film/SuperheroMovie'' (probably not helped by being named in the same "<name of genre> Movie" style used by S&F) have been lumped in with their disasters. And making matters even worse was how [[FollowTheLeader far too many creators who were looking for a quick buck]] was able to easily replicate the Seltzer/Friedberg-formula to a T, oversaturating the market with failed [[ShallowParody shallow parodies]] that only caused further damage to the genre.
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** The were supposed to make ''The Biggest Movie of All Time 3D'', a spoof of ''Film/{{Avatar}}'', but nothing came of it outside of some pre-production work.
** After ''Epic Movie'', they had plans to helm ''Literature/AChristmasCarol''-style holiday comedy that was sold as a star vehicle for Creator/RainnWilson, but was cancelled days before production would've started due to budget concerns from [[Creator/RegencyEnterprises New Regency]].

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** The They were supposed to make ''The Biggest Movie of All Time 3D'', a spoof of ''Film/{{Avatar}}'', but nothing came of it outside of some pre-production work.
** After ''Epic Movie'', they had plans to helm a ''Literature/AChristmasCarol''-style holiday comedy that was sold as a star vehicle for Creator/RainnWilson, but was cancelled days before production would've started due to budget concerns from [[Creator/RegencyEnterprises New Regency]].
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* CreatorsOddball: ''Best Night Ever'', while still a comedy, is not a parody, just a FoundFootage movie following women having a wild night out.
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* CreatorKiller: ''Disaster Movie'' essentially marked the point where their genre spoof movies were no longer seen as viable theatrically and instead went DirectToVideo. Despite this, their last theatrical effort, the single-movie-franchise-focused ''Vampires Suck'' successfully managed to ride on ''Twilight'' hype to the point that it reached profitability, although not to the point where studios were willing to give them a shot.

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* CreatorKiller: ''Disaster Movie'' essentially marked the point where their genre spoof movies were no longer seen as viable theatrically and instead went DirectToVideo. Despite this, their last theatrical effort, the single-movie-franchise-focused ''Vampires Suck'' successfully managed to ride on ''Twilight'' hype to the point that it reached profitability, although not to the point where studios were willing to give them a shot.another shot on the big screen.
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* CreatorKiller: ''Disaster Movie'' essentially marked the point where their genre spoof movies were no longer seen as viable theatrically and instead went DirectToVideo. Despite this, their last theatrical effort, the single-movie-franchise-focused ''Vampires Suck'' successfully managed to ride on ''Twilight'' hype to the point that it reached profitability, although not to the point where studios were willing to give them a shot.
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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: 20th Century Fox was smart enough to not put their name in the opening or on any promotional material of ''Epic Movie'', such as trailers and posters, which is good, since if it did, it might've tarnished their reputation.
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** In the storyboards for Epic Movie, Mystique was original much more accurate looking to her appearance in the X-Men films, and there were even makeup tests down featuring a more scaly forehead and red hair, stylized after the original X-Men trilogy films. Most likely to make the character more conventionally attractive, especially once Carmen Electra was cast, the scales were reduced and she was given luscious blonde hair.
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** In the storyboards for Epic Movie, ''Epic Movie'', the scene featuring Mystique was original conceived very differently. Mystique was originally going to be much more accurate looking accurate-looking to her appearance in the X-Men ''X-Men'' films, and there were even makeup tests down featuring a more scaly forehead and red hair, stylized after the original X-Men ''X-Men'' trilogy films. Most likely to make the character more conventionally attractive, especially once Carmen Electra Creator/CarmenElectra was cast, the scales were reduced and for she was given luscious blonde hair.
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''blonde'' (for some reason) hair. Additionally, in the storyboards, Peter didn't imagine Mystique dancing sexily, only seeing her and walking over. It seems the sexy dance was only added once Carmen Electra was cast, due to her status as the MsFanservice.
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** In the storyboards for Epic Movie, Mystique was original much more accurate looking to her appearance in the X-Men films, and there were even makeup tests down featuring a more scaly forehead and red hair, stylized after the original X-Men trilogy films. Most likely to make the character more conventionally attractive, especially once Carmen Electra was cast, the scales were reduced and she was given luscious blonde hair.
** Additionally, in the storyboards, Peter didn't imagine Mystique dancing sexily, only seeing her and walking over. It seems the sexy dance was only added once Carmen was cast, due to her status as the MsFanservice.
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* RomanceOnTheSet: Adam Campbell and Jayma Mays, the actors who played Peter and Lucy in ''Epic Movie'', ended up dating after meeting during filming. They married in 2007 and have a child together.

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** The duo were the first choice to write and direct ''Film/ScaryMovie 3'', but turned in a script that barely parodied horror films at all, and instead mostly spoofed ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' and ''Franchise/TheLordOfTheRings''. In the duo's defence their script was written in 2001, which was an '''awful''' year for the horror genre -- there were no real high-profile horror releases at all that year, outside of ''Film/TheOthers'' and ''Film/JeepersCreepers'', and maybe ''Literature/{{Hannibal}}'' and ''Film/DonnieDarko'' if you're being generous -- but the studio quickly realized that they were more interested in just getting cheap laughs from whatever happened to be popular rather than sticking to what they were actually meant to be spoofing, resulting in them being canned and replaced by David Zucker.
** They spent several years trying to sell a script for [[CreatorsOddball a straightforward Liberace biopic]], only forfeiting when ''Film/BehindTheCandelabra'' was produced.

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** The duo were the first choice to write and direct ''Film/ScaryMovie 3'', but turned in a script that barely parodied horror films at all, and instead mostly spoofed ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' and ''Franchise/TheLordOfTheRings''. In the duo's defence their script was written in 2001, which was an '''awful''' year for the horror genre -- there were no real high-profile horror releases at all that year, outside of ''Film/TheOthers'' ''Film/TheOthers2001'' and ''Film/JeepersCreepers'', and maybe ''Literature/{{Hannibal}}'' and ''Film/DonnieDarko'' if you're being generous -- but the studio quickly realized that they were more interested in just getting cheap laughs from whatever happened to be popular rather than sticking to what they were actually meant to be spoofing, resulting in them being canned and replaced by David Zucker.
** They spent several years trying to sell a script for [[CreatorsOddball a straightforward Liberace biopic]], straightforward]] Music/{{Liberace}} {{biopic}}, only forfeiting when ''Film/BehindTheCandelabra'' was produced.



** After ''Epic Movie'', they had plans to helm ''Literature/AChristmasCarol''-style holiday comedy that was sold as a star vehicle for Creator/RainnWilson, but was cancelled days before production would've started due to budget concerns from [[Creator/RegencyEnterprises New Regency]].

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** After ''Epic Movie'', they had plans to helm ''Literature/AChristmasCarol''-style holiday comedy that was sold as a star vehicle for Creator/RainnWilson, but was cancelled days before production would've started due to budget concerns from [[Creator/RegencyEnterprises New Regency]].Regency]].
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* ParodyAssistance: Special effects artist Mark Rappaport, who contributed to the makeup and prop work of both ''Film/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'' and ''Film/ThreeHundred'' would do the same for both ''Epic Movie'' and 'Meet the Spartans''.

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* ParodyAssistance: Special effects artist Mark Rappaport, who contributed to the makeup and prop work of both ''Film/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'' and ''Film/ThreeHundred'' would do the same for both ''Epic Movie'' and 'Meet ''Meet the Spartans''.
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* ParodyAssistance: Special effects artist Mark Rappaport, who contributed to the makeup and prop work of both ''Film/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'' and ''Film/ThreeHundred'' would do the same for both ''Epic Movie'' and 'Meet the Spartans''.
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* NoBudget: While their movies are always very cheap (the most expensive was ''Meet the Spartans'', $30 million), which also made them profitable until the failure of ''Disaster Movie'', ''The Starving Games'' with $4.5 million takes the cake.
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** The duo were the first choice to write and direct ''Film/ScaryMovie 3'', but turned in a script that barely parodied horror films at all, and instead mostly spoofed ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' and ''Franchise/TheLordOfTheRings''. In the duo's defence their script was written in 2001, which was an '''awful''' year for the horror genre -- there were no real high-profile horror releases at all that year, outside of ''Film/TheOthers'' and ''Film/JeepersCreepers'', and maybe ''Literature/{{Hannibal}}'' and ''Film/DonnieDarko'' if you're being generous -- but the studio quickly realized that they were more interested in just getting cheap laughs from whatever happened to be popular rather than sticking to what they were actually meant to be spoofing, resulting in them being canned and replaced by David Zucker.
** They spent several years trying to sell a script for [[CreatorsOddball a straightforward Liberace biopic]], only forfeiting when ''Film/BehindTheCandelabra'' was produced.
** The were supposed to make ''The Biggest Movie of All Time 3D'', a spoof of ''Film/{{Avatar}}'', but nothing came of it outside of some pre-production work.
** After ''Epic Movie'', they had plans to helm ''Literature/AChristmasCarol''-style holiday comedy that was sold as a star vehicle for Creator/RainnWilson, but was cancelled days before production would've started due to budget concerns from [[Creator/RegencyEnterprises New Regency]].

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