Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Trivia / MakeAGoodMegaManLevelContest

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* PropRecycling: Among other things, several elements from the cancelled fangame ''Mega Man Infamous Intent'' are used in ''[=MaGMML2=]'', including the civilians, the Genesis Unit, [[ComicBook/MegaMan Quake Woman]] and [[RecycledSoundtrack a few songs]].

to:

* PropRecycling: Among other things, several elements from the cancelled fangame ''Mega Man Infamous Intent'' are used in ''[=MaGMML2=]'', including the civilians, the Genesis Unit, [[ComicBook/MegaMan Quake Woman]] and [[RecycledSoundtrack a few songs]]. Duo's sprites in ''[=Episode Zero=]'' are also taken from the yet to be released [[VideoGame/MegaManRevolution Mega Man Revolution Remix]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AccidentallyCorrectWriting: Prior to a July 2019 [[https://twitter.com/youyama/status/1153650464640004098 tweet]] from the game director behind ''VideoGame/RockmanAndForteMiraiKaraNoChosensha'', most of the Robot Masters from that game, including [[RecurringBoss recurring devkit boss]] Komuso Man, had only ever appeared in black and white and had no official color scheme[[labelnote:*]]Aside from some magazine art of Dangan Man and Rockman Shadow, and a cameo by Konro Man in ''VideoGame/MegaManZXAdvent''[[/labelnote]], so their colors in [=MaGMML2=] were mostly based off of [[{{Fanon}} fan conjecture]]. While some of the color schemes used were widely off the mark, Komuso Man's purple and tan colors wound up being surprisingly accurate to his concept art.

to:

* AccidentallyCorrectWriting: Prior to a July 2019 [[https://twitter.com/youyama/status/1153650464640004098 tweet]] from the game director behind ''VideoGame/RockmanAndForteMiraiKaraNoChosensha'', most of the Robot Masters from that game, including [[RecurringBoss recurring devkit boss]] Komuso Man, had only ever appeared in black and white and had no official color scheme[[labelnote:*]]Aside from some magazine art of Dangan Man and Rockman Shadow, and a cameo by Konro Man in ''VideoGame/MegaManZXAdvent''[[/labelnote]], ''VideoGame/MegaManZX Advent''[[/labelnote]], so their colors in [=MaGMML2=] were mostly based off of [[{{Fanon}} fan conjecture]]. While some of the color schemes used were widely off the mark, Komuso Man's purple and tan colors wound up being surprisingly accurate to his concept art.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** For ''[MaGMML3]'':

to:

** For ''[MaGMML3]'':''[=MaGMML3=]'':
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** For ''[MaGMML3]'':
*** Thirteen levels were excluded from the contest for various reasons. [=Flashman85=] would play some of these levels on his channel and reveal what they would have included.

Added: 974

Removed: 812

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* DevelopmentGag: The reason for the Mega Arena's boss being [[spoiler:a HiveMind of Volt Men]] was because [[spoiler:Volt Man is the default NPC in the editor]].



* ThrowItIn: Both for ''[=MaGMML2=]'':
** The entire reason "Twilight Lodge" was included as a bonus level was this, according to a conversation log at the start of the level:
-->'''ACE Spark:''' let me know if want to shove Wishing Star from Mega Man's Christmas Thingy in there somewhere\\
'''[=SnoruntPyro=]:''' tbh i almost want to have mega mans christmas thingy in the final game just because we can.
** The [[spoiler:Singing Gordon Freeman]] EasterEgg was added because all the judges had gotten sick hearing Galaxy Man's theme (the default level music) during the judging phase, so when someone pranked them by switching it to a StupidStatementDanceMix instead, they got enough of a kick out of it that ACE decided to include [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWD04IG-IGg the song itself]] in the final game.



* ThrowItIn: Both for ''[=MaGMML2=]'':
** The entire reason "Twilight Lodge" was included as a bonus level was this, according to a conversation log at the start of the level:
-->'''ACE Spark:''' let me know if want to shove Wishing Star from Mega Man's Christmas Thingy in there somewhere\\
'''[=SnoruntPyro=]:''' tbh i almost want to have mega mans christmas thingy in the final game just because we can.
** The [[spoiler:Singing Gordon Freeman]] EasterEgg was added because all the judges had gotten sick hearing Galaxy Man's theme (the default level music) during the judging phase, so when someone pranked them by switching it to a StupidStatementDanceMix instead, they got enough of a kick out of it that ACE decided to include [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWD04IG-IGg the song itself]] in the final game.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


*** The bonus level "Twilight Lodge" is comprised of the only remaining assets from ''VideoGame/MegaMansChristmasCarol 3'', a planned sequel project that was quietly shelved.

to:

*** The bonus level "Twilight Lodge" is comprised of the only remaining unused assets from intended for ''VideoGame/MegaMansChristmasCarol 3'', a planned sequel project that was quietly shelved.delayed until 2019.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CreatorBreakdown: [=ACESpark=] went through a minor one following the completion of ''[=MaGMML2=]'', leaving him burned-out and wanting to take a break from ''Mega Man''-related projects (including ''[[VideoGame/MegaManRevolution Mega Man Revolution Remix]]'' and ''Quint's Revenge 2'').

to:

* CreatorBreakdown: [=ACESpark=] went through a minor one following the completion of ''[=MaGMML2=]'', leaving him burned-out and wanting to take a break from ''Mega Man''-related projects (including ''[[VideoGame/MegaManRevolution Mega Man Revolution Remix]]'' and ''Quint's Revenge 2'').2'', though he ultimately became an advisor for the former).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AccidentallyCorrectWriting: Prior to a July 2019 [[https://twitter.com/youyama/status/1153650464640004098 tweet]] from their original concept artist, most of the Robot Masters from ''[[VideoGame/RockmanAndForteMiraiKaraNoChosensha Challenger from the Future]]'', including [[RecurringBoss recurring devkit boss]] Komuso Man, had no official color scheme[[labelnote:*]]Aside from some magazine art of Dangan Man and Rockman Shadow, and a cameo by Konro Man in ''VideoGame/MegaManZXAdvent'' they had only ever appeared in black and white.[[/labelnote]], so their colors in [=MaGMML2=] were mostly based off of fan conjecture. While some of the color schemes were widely off the mark, Komuso Man's violet and tan colors wound up being surprisingly accurate to his concept art colors.

to:

* AccidentallyCorrectWriting: Prior to a July 2019 [[https://twitter.com/youyama/status/1153650464640004098 tweet]] from their original concept artist, the game director behind ''VideoGame/RockmanAndForteMiraiKaraNoChosensha'', most of the Robot Masters from ''[[VideoGame/RockmanAndForteMiraiKaraNoChosensha Challenger from the Future]]'', that game, including [[RecurringBoss recurring devkit boss]] Komuso Man, had only ever appeared in black and white and had no official color scheme[[labelnote:*]]Aside from some magazine art of Dangan Man and Rockman Shadow, and a cameo by Konro Man in ''VideoGame/MegaManZXAdvent'' they had only ever appeared in black and white.[[/labelnote]], ''VideoGame/MegaManZXAdvent''[[/labelnote]], so their colors in [=MaGMML2=] were mostly based off of [[{{Fanon}} fan conjecture. conjecture]]. While some of the color schemes used were widely off the mark, Komuso Man's violet purple and tan colors wound up being surprisingly accurate to his concept art colors.art.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

*AccidentallyCorrectWriting: Prior to a July 2019 [[https://twitter.com/youyama/status/1153650464640004098 tweet]] from their original concept artist, most of the Robot Masters from ''[[VideoGame/RockmanAndForteMiraiKaraNoChosensha Challenger from the Future]]'', including [[RecurringBoss recurring devkit boss]] Komuso Man, had no official color scheme[[labelnote:*]]Aside from some magazine art of Dangan Man and Rockman Shadow, and a cameo by Konro Man in ''VideoGame/MegaManZXAdvent'' they had only ever appeared in black and white.[[/labelnote]], so their colors in [=MaGMML2=] were mostly based off of fan conjecture. While some of the color schemes were widely off the mark, Komuso Man's violet and tan colors wound up being surprisingly accurate to his concept art colors.

Added: 1400

Changed: 105

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* {{Jossed}}: Due to [[VideoGame/MegaManRockForce Justice Man]] being excluded from ''[=MaGMML2=]'' at the request of ''Mega Man Rock Force's'' creator, it was assumed that a different character would serve as the boss of Tier 4 in ''[=MaGMML=] Remastered'' (as similar arguments with the creator of ''Mega Man Eternal'' led to Jolt Man being replaced as the Tier 1 boss), to the point where [[TheWikiRule the wiki]] had placeholders for whoever would replace Justice Man. Come release day, and Justice Man still appears as the Tier 4 boss (albeit [[spoiler: as a holographic copy instead of making an UnexplainedRecovery]]).



* NamesTheSame: The Tier 4 boss is a DualBoss with two Robot Masters named Scorch Man from two different fan-games; one from ''VideoGame/MegaManSunrise'' and the other from [[UnlicensedGame the bootleg game]] ''VideoGame/ZookHeroZ''. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen In the beta version, however,]] ''Zook''[='=]s Scorch Man was originally ''another'' Scorch Man, from ''Mega Man Eternal''.
* ProductionThrowback: The alternate costume for Quint changes his slide into a dash, referencing his playable incarnation in one of [=ACESpark=]'s previous games, ''Quint's Revenge''.

to:

* NamesTheSame: The Tier 4 boss of ''[=MaGMML2=]'' is a DualBoss with two Robot Masters named Scorch Man from two different fan-games; games; one from the fan-game ''VideoGame/MegaManSunrise'' and the other from [[UnlicensedGame the bootleg game]] ''VideoGame/ZookHeroZ''.''Zook Hero Z''. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen In the beta version, however,]] ''Zook''[='=]s Scorch Man was originally ''another'' Scorch Man, from ''Mega Man Eternal''.
* ProductionThrowback: The alternate costume for Quint in ''[=MaGMML2=]'' changes his slide into a dash, referencing his playable incarnation in one of [=ACESpark=]'s previous games, ''Quint's Revenge''.



* TroubledProduction: ''[=MaGMML=] Remastered'' started development in December 2017, taking about a year and a half to complete. Reasons for the delay included the project being lower priority than other ''[=MaGMML=]'' projects and the fact that the game used a much older and buggier version of the Megamix Engine than what would be used for ''[=MaGMML3=]'' and ''48 Hour''. This led to a planned "Episode Zero" side game being split off from the remake (see WhatCouldHaveBeen below).



** For ''[=MaGMML Remastered=]'':
*** The game was originally going to have an "Episode Zero", serving as an {{Interquel}} set between the first and second game with Zero as the main character. Due to the TroubledProduction of the remake, Episode Zero was split off into a seperate project.



* ThrowItIn:
** The entire reason "Twilight Lodge" was included as a bonus level, according to a conversation log at the start of the level:

to:

* ThrowItIn:
ThrowItIn: Both for ''[=MaGMML2=]'':
** The entire reason "Twilight Lodge" was included as a bonus level, level was this, according to a conversation log at the start of the level:



* WikiRule: [[http://magmmlcontest.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page Here]], though it's still under development.

to:

* WikiRule: TheWikiRule: [[http://magmmlcontest.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page Here]], though it's still under development.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ChristmasRushed: The game did get released in a playable state a few months before the anniversary ended, but suffered from slowdown and noticeable bugs (which both got fixed later on).

to:

* ChristmasRushed: The second game did get released in a playable state a few months before the anniversary ended, but suffered from slowdown and noticeable bugs (which both got fixed later on).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* NamesTheSame: The Tier 4 boss is a DualBoss with two Robot Masters named Scorch Man from two different fan-games; one from ''VideoGame/MegaManSunrise'' and the other from [[UnlicensedGame the bootleg game]] ''VideoGame/ZookHeroZ''. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen In the beta version, however,]] Zook!Scorch Man was originally ''another'' Scorch Man, from ''Mega Man Eternal''.

to:

* NamesTheSame: The Tier 4 boss is a DualBoss with two Robot Masters named Scorch Man from two different fan-games; one from ''VideoGame/MegaManSunrise'' and the other from [[UnlicensedGame the bootleg game]] ''VideoGame/ZookHeroZ''. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen In the beta version, however,]] Zook!Scorch ''Zook''[='=]s Scorch Man was originally ''another'' Scorch Man, from ''Mega Man Eternal''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** [=SnoruntPyro=] liked "Mega Man World" in the first game, and "The Stage Nobody Asked For" in the second game, but later rescinded the latter after going back and finding major problems with the level, and stated "Neapolitan Man" became her favorite instead.

to:

** [=SnoruntPyro=] liked "Mega Man World" in the first game, and "The Stage Nobody Asked For" in the second game, but later rescinded the latter after going back and finding major problems with the level, level (especially its BonusBoss), and stated "Neapolitan Man" became her favorite instead.



*** At one point in development, the length of the Yggdrasil comment caused severe problems with the game, which meant an alternative was going to be in place - another Comment Comic, but this one pointing you to a pastebin of the full review. Ultimately a solution was found, and it was deemed funnier to leave the full [[WallOfText "essay"]] comment that is in the final game.

to:

*** At one point in development, the length of the [=ACESpark's=] Yggdrasil comment caused severe problems with the game, which meant an alternative was going to be in place - another Comment Comic, but this one pointing you to a pastebin of the full review. Ultimately a solution was found, and it was deemed funnier to leave the full [[WallOfText "essay"]] comment that is in the final game.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** [=SnoruntPyro=] liked "Mega Man World" in the first game, and "The Stage Nobody Asked For" in the second game, but later rescinded the latter after she learned about the level's bizarre EasterEgg, and stated "Neapolitan Man" became her favorite instead.

to:

** [=SnoruntPyro=] liked "Mega Man World" in the first game, and "The Stage Nobody Asked For" in the second game, but later rescinded the latter after she learned about going back and finding major problems with the level's bizarre EasterEgg, level, and stated "Neapolitan Man" became her favorite instead.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* CreatorsFavoriteEpisode: Levels that judges particularly liked will get a special emoticon near the levels.
** [=SnoruntPyro=] liked "Mega Man World" in the first game, and "The Stage Nobody Asked For" in the second game, but later rescinded the latter after she learned about the level's bizarre EasterEgg, and stated "Neapolitan Man" became her favorite instead.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ChristmasRushed: The game did get released a few months before the anniversary, in a playable state, but suffered from slowdown and noticeable bugs (which both got fixed later on).

to:

* ChristmasRushed: The game did get released in a playable state a few months before the anniversary, in a playable state, anniversary ended, but suffered from slowdown and noticeable bugs (which both got fixed later on).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ChristmasRushed: The game did get released a few months before the anniversary, in a playable state, but suffered from slowdown and noticeable bugs (which both got fixed later on).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


*** The bonus level "Twilight Lodge" is comprised of the only remaining assets from ''VideoGame/MegaMansChristmasCarol 3'', a planned sequel project that was quietly cancelled.

to:

*** The bonus level "Twilight Lodge" is comprised of the only remaining assets from ''VideoGame/MegaMansChristmasCarol 3'', a planned sequel project that was quietly cancelled.shelved.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

*** The bonus level "Twilight Lodge" is comprised of the only remaining assets from ''VideoGame/MegaMansChristmasCarol 3'', a planned sequel project that was quietly cancelled.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

*** The Wily 3 stage, Lever Oriental Enchanted, was originally going to have Nosferatu as its boss, but was removed for unknown reasons.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The [[spoiler:Singing Gordon Freeman]] EasterEgg was added because all the judges had gotten sick hearing Galaxy Man's theme (the default level music) during the judging phase, so when someone pranked them by switching it to a StupidStatementDanceRemix instead, they got enough of a kick out of it that ACE decided to include [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWD04IG-IGg the song itself]] in the final game.

to:

** The [[spoiler:Singing Gordon Freeman]] EasterEgg was added because all the judges had gotten sick hearing Galaxy Man's theme (the default level music) during the judging phase, so when someone pranked them by switching it to a StupidStatementDanceRemix StupidStatementDanceMix instead, they got enough of a kick out of it that ACE decided to include [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWD04IG-IGg the song itself]] in the final game.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The [[spoiler:Singing Gordon Freeman]] EasterEgg was added because all the judges had gotten sick hearing Galaxy Man's theme (the default level music) during the judging phase, so when someone pranked them by switching it to a SupidStatementDanceRemix instead, they got enough of a kick out of it that ACE decided to include [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWD04IG-IGg the song itself]] in the final game.

to:

** The [[spoiler:Singing Gordon Freeman]] EasterEgg was added because all the judges had gotten sick hearing Galaxy Man's theme (the default level music) during the judging phase, so when someone pranked them by switching it to a SupidStatementDanceRemix StupidStatementDanceRemix instead, they got enough of a kick out of it that ACE decided to include [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWD04IG-IGg the song itself]] in the final game.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ThrowItIn:
** The entire reason "Twilight Lodge" was included as a bonus level, according to a conversation log at the start of the level:
-->'''ACE Spark:''' let me know if want to shove Wishing Star from Mega Man's Christmas Thingy in there somewhere\\
'''[=SnoruntPyro=]:''' tbh i almost want to have mega mans christmas thingy in the final game just because we can.
** The [[spoiler:Singing Gordon Freeman]] EasterEgg was added because all the judges had gotten sick hearing Galaxy Man's theme (the default level music) during the judging phase, so when someone pranked them by switching it to a SupidStatementDanceRemix instead, they got enough of a kick out of it that ACE decided to include [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWD04IG-IGg the song itself]] in the final game.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* NamesTheSame: The Tier 4 boss is a DualBoss with two Robot Masters named Scorch Man from two different fan-games; one from ''VideoGame/MegaManSunrise'' and the other from [[UnlicensedGame the bootleg game]] ''VideoGame/ZookHeroZ''. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen In the beta version, however,]] ''another'' Scorch Man, from ''Mega Man Eternal'', stood in for Zook!Scorch Man.

to:

* NamesTheSame: The Tier 4 boss is a DualBoss with two Robot Masters named Scorch Man from two different fan-games; one from ''VideoGame/MegaManSunrise'' and the other from [[UnlicensedGame the bootleg game]] ''VideoGame/ZookHeroZ''. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen In the beta version, however,]] Zook!Scorch Man was originally ''another'' Scorch Man, from ''Mega Man Eternal'', stood in for Zook!Scorch Man.Eternal''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


*** In the Tier 4 boss fight with the Scorch Men, the Scorch Man from ''Zook Hero Z'' was originally the Scorch Man from ''Mega Man Eternal'', but the fan-game's creator objected to his inclusion, and the inclusion of ''Eternal II'' boss music, and thus both were replaced. Illusion Man and Jolt Man from the same game also had their NPC roles removed for the same reason (though Jolt Man still has a background cameo in Tier 4).

to:

*** In the Tier 4 boss fight with the Scorch Men, Scorching Duo, the Scorch Man from ''Zook Hero Z'' was originally the Scorch Man from ''Mega Man Eternal'', but the fan-game's creator objected to his inclusion, and the inclusion of ''Eternal II'' boss music, and thus both were replaced. Illusion Man and Jolt Man from the same game also had their NPC roles removed for the same reason (though Jolt Man still has a background cameo in Tier 4).

Added: 366

Changed: 183

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* NamesTheSame: The Tier 4 boss is a DualBoss with two Robot Masters named Scorch Man from two different fan-games; one from ''VideoGame/MegaManSunrise'' and the other from [[UnlicensedGame the bootleg game]] ''VideoGame/ZookHeroZ''. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen In the beta version, however,]] ''another'' Scorch Man, from ''Mega Man Eternal'', stood in for Zook!Scorch Man.



*** The Tier 4 boss fight is a DualBoss fight against two characters both named Scorch Man, one from the fan-game ''VideoGame/MegaManSunrise'' while the other is from an UnlicensedGame called ''Zook Hero Z''. The latter was originally Scorch Man from ''Mega Man Eternal'', but the fan-game's creator objected to his inclusion, and the inclusion of ''Eternal II'' boss music, and thus both were replaced. Illusion Man and Jolt Man from the same game also had their NPC roles removed for the same reason (though Jolt Man still has a background cameo in Tier 4).

to:

*** The In the Tier 4 boss fight is a DualBoss fight against two characters both named with the Scorch Man, one Men, the Scorch Man from the fan-game ''VideoGame/MegaManSunrise'' while the other is from an UnlicensedGame called ''Zook Hero Z''. The latter Z'' was originally the Scorch Man from ''Mega Man Eternal'', but the fan-game's creator objected to his inclusion, and the inclusion of ''Eternal II'' boss music, and thus both were replaced. Illusion Man and Jolt Man from the same game also had their NPC roles removed for the same reason (though Jolt Man still has a background cameo in Tier 4).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Actually Roahm didn't seem to know if it was a fan or another judge so... Hm.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Actually Roahm didn't seem to know if it was a fan or another judge so... Hm.


*** LetsPlay/RoahmMythril was considered as a guest judge, but he declined.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

*** LetsPlay/RoahmMythril was considered as a guest judge, but he declined.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


*** The Tier 4 boss fight is a DualBoss fight against two characters both named Scorch Man, one from the fan-game ''VideoGame/MegaManSunrise'' while the other is from an UnlicensedGame called ''Zook Man Z''. The latter was originally Scorch Man from ''Mega Man Eternal'', but the fan-game's creator objected to his inclusion, and the inclusion of ''Eternal II'' boss music, and thus both were replaced. Illusion Man and Jolt Man from the same game also had their NPC roles removed for the same reason (though Jolt Man still has a background cameo in Tier 4).

to:

*** The Tier 4 boss fight is a DualBoss fight against two characters both named Scorch Man, one from the fan-game ''VideoGame/MegaManSunrise'' while the other is from an UnlicensedGame called ''Zook Man Hero Z''. The latter was originally Scorch Man from ''Mega Man Eternal'', but the fan-game's creator objected to his inclusion, and the inclusion of ''Eternal II'' boss music, and thus both were replaced. Illusion Man and Jolt Man from the same game also had their NPC roles removed for the same reason (though Jolt Man still has a background cameo in Tier 4).

Top