History Trivia / LupinIIIPartII

* TheOtherDarrin: Creator/ChikaoOhtsuka did not reprise his role as Goemon and was replaced by Creator/MakioInoue. In an odd case, Creator/EikoMasuyama had voiced Fujiko in the pilot film, was replaced by Yukiko Nikaido for Anime/LupinIIIGreenJacket and returned for voicing Fujiko for the next 33 years.

* TheOtherDarrin: Creator/StreamlinePictures dubbed episodes 145 and 155, while Creator/{{Geneon}} dubbed episodes 1-79, and both used their own voice casts. Had Geneon reached those two episodes, this would have been DuelingDubs, but they didn't, simply making it this instead.

* RealTimeTimeskip: The five years between Part 1 Episode 23 and Part 2 Episode was the same as the real difference between the two anime.

** Discotek seriously considered dubbing the rest of the series to completion with them going so far as to delay the latter half of their releases so they could make the arrangements. The high costs of doing so eventually put those ambitions to rest. Presumably, they would have gotten Epcar to direct again and have the Geneon actors reprise their parts[[note]]Though they more likely than not would have used Creator/DougErholtz, Zenigata's current voice actor since the original performer, Dan Lorge, had long retired by then.[[/note]].

** Creator/BobBergen actually did an audition to reprise his role as Lupin in Geneon's dub. The reason why it didn't go through was because it was a non-union product, leading Creator/TonyOliver to get the role instead.
** According to Creator/RichardEpcar's statements in the special features in Creator/FUNimation's release of ''[[Anime/LupinIIITheWomanCalledFujikoMine The Woman Called Fujiko Mine]]'', he wasn't the first choice to voice Jigen in Creator/{{Geneon}}'s dub of this series. It's unknown who else was set to voice him, but apparently, they didn't like any of the auditionors, and finally they just told Richard to give it a shot. They liked his performance, and the rest is history.
** And of course, had the dub been more successful and had they not lost the license, episodes 80-155 might have been dubbed, though this would have created a case of DuelingDubs in the case of the two Creator/HayaoMiyazaki episodes. The again, given Geneon themselves went under not too long after they lost the license, it's hard to tell how much further they could have gone.

** [[Recap/LupinIIIS2E3 "To Be or Nazi Be"]] involves the cast making an airborne escape over the UsefulNotes/BerlinWall (still standing in 1977, but long gone by the time the English dub came out in 2003). The American localizers didn't even ''try'' to write around that one.
** [[Recap/LupinIIIS2E7 "Cursed Case Scenario"]] involved Lupin and the gang going to Egypt to steal King Tut's burial mask... but Zenigata is stuck next door in Israel, and manages to get himself arrested when he loudly demands a flight to Cairo, the Israeli official angrily retorting, "There are no flights from Israel to '''''any''''' Arab country!" This episode aired in 1977, two years before the Camp David Accords and the signing of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty. Nowadays, though the two nations' ''peoples'' certainly still hate each others' guts, it is ''usually'' possible to get from one country to the other... eventually.[[note]] Other former enemies that have signed peace treaties with Israel are its eastern neighbour Jordan, and the not-Arab-but-still-Muslim Eurasian country of Turkey.[[/note]]

** [[Recap/LupinIIIS2E2 "Guns, Bun, and Fun in the Sun"]] takes place fairly explicitly on January 10, 1977. Why? Because that's the day the New York Cosmos went to [[UsefulNotes/{{Brazil}} Rio de Janeiro]] for a friendly match against Santos Brasil; Lupin's caper of the week was stealing all the money made from ticket sales for the game. The episode itself wasn't made and did not air until about ten months later, in October 1977.

* OutOfOrder: Not only was [[Recao/LupinIIIS2E3 "To Be or Nazi Be"]] a MissingEpisode, when it was put into Creator/{{Geneon}}'s [=DVDs=], it was near the end of what is considered the first season, when it was originally the third episode of the series. This is [[AvertedTrope Averted]] with [[Creator/DiscotekMedia Discotek]]'s rerelease, since they chose to put all the episodes in the original Japanese viewing order.

* UnfinishedDub: Twice; Creator/StreamlinePictures could never dub anything past the two Creator/HayaoMiyazaki-directed episodes, while Creator/{{Geneon}} never dubbed anything past episode 79. Even if one is willing to put the two dubs together (since they do cover different parts of the series), that's only 81 episodes out of a 155 series.

** [[Recap/LupinIIIS2E3 "To Be or Nazi Be"]] involves the cast making an airborne escape over the BerlinWall (still standing in 1977, but long gone by the time the English dub came out in 2003). The American localizers didn't even ''try'' to write around that one.

* OutOfOrder: Not only was [[Recao/LupinIIIS2E3 "To Be or Nazi Be"]] a MissingEpisode, when it was put into Creator/{{Geneon}}'s [=DVDs=], it was near the end of what it considered the first season, when it was originally the third episode of the series. This is [[AvertedTrope Averted]] with [[Creator/DiscotekMedia Discotek]]'s rerelease, since they chose to put all the episodes in the original Japanese viewing order.

* MissingEpisode: [[Recap/LupinIIIS2E3 "To Be or Nazi Be"]] was this due to potential controversy surroundig its premise, even on the early DVD volumes. See OutOfOrder for what happened next.

* ExecutiveMeddling: Apparently, Geneon's dub has a few examples, mainly in the fact that the executives apparently requested that they ''try'' to cover its origins. While the cast enjoyed working on the dub overall, Creator/RichardEpcar admitted he would have preferred if the executives hadn't told them to try to update the dialogue, since it was not only made in thenlate 70s, it ''looks'' like it, too, though he admitted he saw where they were coming from with the decision.

* ExecutiveMeddling: Apparently, Geneon's dub has a few examples, mainly in the fact that the executives apparently requested that they ''try'' to cover its origins. While the cast enjoyed working on the dub overall, Creator/RichardEpcar admitted he woukd have preferred if the executives hadn't told them to try to update the dialogue, since it was not only made in thenlate 70s, it ''looks'' like it, too, though he admitted he saw where they were coming from with the decision.

* MissingEpisode: [[Recap/LupinIIIS2E3 "To Be or Nazi Be"]] was this due to potential controversy surroundig its premise. Even on the Creator/{{Geneon}} [=DVDs=], it was put near the end of what is viewed as season one, when it was originally but the third episode.

* TheOtherDarrin: Creator/StreamlinePictures dubbed episodes 145 and 155, while Creator/{{Geneon}} dubbed episodes 1-79, and both used their own voice casts. Had Geneon reached those two episodes, this would have been DuelingDubs, but they didn't, simply making it this instead.

* OutOfOrder: Not only was [[Recao/LupinIIIS2E3 "To Be or Nazi Be"]] a MissingEpisode, when it was put into Creator/{{Geneon}}'s [=DVDs=], it was near the end of what it considered the first season, when it was originally the third episode of the series. This is [[AvertedTripe Averted]] with [[Creator/DiscotekMedia Discotek]]'s rerelease, since they chose to put all the episodes in the original Japanese viewing order.

** Anf of course, had the dub been more successful and had they not lost the license, episodes 80-155 might have been dubbed, though this would have created a case of DuelingDubs in the case of the two Creator/HayaoMiyazaki episodes. The again, given Geneon themselves went under not too long after they lost the license, it's hard to tell how much further they could have gone.

** According to Creator/RichardEpcar's statements in the special features in Creator/FUNimation's release of ''[[Anime/LupinIIITheWomanCalledFujikoMine The Woman Called Fujiko Mine]]'', he wasn't the first choice to voice Jigen in Creator/{{Geneon}}'s dub. It's unknown who else was set to voice him, but apparently, they didn't like any of the auditionors, and finally they just told Richard to give it a shot. They liked his performance, and the rest is history.

* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Creator/StreamlinePictures actually considered dubbing more than just the two episodes directed by Creator/HayaoMiyazaki, but they couldn't get a TV deal, which would have been necessary to sustain any dub of the TV series. It wasn't until Creator/{{Geneon}} managed that there even were efforts to dub the series. Of course, that's not to say their own dub doesn't have examples

* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Creator/BobBergen actually did an audition to reprise his role as Lupin in Geneon's dub. The reason why it didn't go through was because it was a non-union product, leading Creator/TonyOliver to get the role instead.

** According to Creator/RichardEpcar's statements in the special features in Creator/FUNimation's release of ''[[Anime/LuoinIIITheWomanCalledFujikoMine The Woman Called Fujiko Mine]]'', he wasn't the first choice to voice Jigen in Creator/{{Geneon}}'s dub. It's unknown who else was set to voice him, but apparently, they didn't like any of the auditionors, and finally they just told Richard to give it a shot. They liked his performance, and the rest is history.