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** Nine days prior to the release of ''Dial of Destiny'', Creator/KathleenKennedy [[https://variety.com/2023/film/news/indiana-jones-5-james-mangold-harrison-ford-1235650894/ commented]] that an Helena Shaw movie could be "entirely possible" in the future, though she noted that at that point, there were no conversations for such spin-off, with the focus being on wrapping up Ford's tenure as Indiana Jones.

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** Nine days prior to the release of ''Dial of Destiny'', Creator/KathleenKennedy [[https://variety.com/2023/film/news/indiana-jones-5-james-mangold-harrison-ford-1235650894/ commented]] that an a Helena Shaw movie could be "entirely possible" in the future, though she noted that at that point, there were no conversations for such spin-off, with the focus being on wrapping up Ford's tenure as Indiana Jones.
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**Nine days prior to the release of ''Dial of Destiny'', Creator/KathleenKennedy [[https://variety.com/2023/film/news/indiana-jones-5-james-mangold-harrison-ford-1235650894/ commented]] that an Helena Shaw movie could be "entirely possible" in the future, though she noted that at that point, there were no conversations for such spin-off, with the focus being on wrapping up Ford's tenure as Indiana Jones.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: ''Dial'' earned $174 million domestic and $383 million worldwide and resulted in Creator/{{Disney}} losing anywhere from [[https://screenrant.com/indiana-jones-5-movie-box-office-profit-loss $100 million]] to [[https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64142725/ over $200 million]] on the film, and may be ''the biggest box office bomb ever'' if unadjusted for inflation. Numerous delays and the COVID-19 pandemic caused the budget to bloat to around $300 million ''before'' marketing and distribution costs, and it ultimately made less in theaters than his first one did over ''four decades'' prior despite costing over ''15 times'' as much to make. Domestically, the film opened with a paltry $60 million and dropped quickly after that, and its $174 million stateside is the lowest for the franchise and ''far'' below the previous entries when taking inflation into account. Its failure was generally blamed on [[SoOkayItsAverage mixed-to-average reviews]], following up the divisive ''Kingdom of the Crystal Skull'', and a lackluster marketing campaign. [[https://deadline.com/2023/07/box-office-indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny-1235427644/ Deadline]] opined the film's biggest problem was that it didn't have much appeal to those who weren't already fans of the franchise, and Disney didn't make much of an effort to give the film four-quadrant appeal the same way Paramount did with ''Film/TopGunMaverick'' the previous year, and attendance was anemic from the under-35 demographic. The release of ''[[Film/MissionImpossibleDeadReckoningPartOne Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning]]'' and the expansions of surprise hit ''Film/SoundOfFreedom'' the next weekend did more damage.

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* BoxOfficeBomb: ''Dial'' earned $174 million domestic and $383 million worldwide and resulted in Creator/{{Disney}} losing anywhere from [[https://screenrant.com/indiana-jones-5-movie-box-office-profit-loss $100 million]] to [[https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64142725/ over $200 million]] on the film, and may be ''the biggest box office bomb ever'' if unadjusted for inflation. Numerous delays and the COVID-19 pandemic caused the budget to bloat to around $300 million ''before'' marketing and distribution costs, and it ultimately made less in theaters than his first one did over ''four decades'' prior despite costing over ''15 times'' as much to make. Domestically, the film opened with a paltry $60 million and dropped quickly after that, and its $174 million stateside is the lowest for the franchise and ''far'' below the previous entries when taking inflation into account. Its failure was generally blamed on [[SoOkayItsAverage mixed-to-average reviews]], following up the divisive ''Kingdom of the Crystal Skull'', and a lackluster marketing campaign. [[https://deadline.com/2023/07/box-office-indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny-1235427644/ Deadline]] opined the film's biggest problem was that it didn't have much appeal to those who weren't already fans of the franchise, and Disney didn't make much of an effort to give the film four-quadrant appeal the same way Paramount did with ''Film/TopGunMaverick'' the previous year, and attendance was anemic from the under-35 demographic. The release of ''[[Film/MissionImpossibleDeadReckoningPartOne Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning]]'' ''Film/MissionImpossibleDeadReckoning'' and the expansions of surprise hit ''Film/SoundOfFreedom'' the next weekend did even more damage.
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** A potential plot for the movie that was discussed a long time ago was trying to locate and rediscover Atlantis.
** There'd been talk back as far as ''Crystal Skull'' about convincing Creator/SeanConnery to come back for the fifth one and that the mention of Henry dying in the fourth one would come with the revelation in the next film that he was FakingTheDead, but 90-year-old Connery's passing in 2020 made any chance of that happening disappear completely though.
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* CreatorBacklash: [[spoiler:While Creator/KarenAllen was very happy to return as Marion Ravenwood, she said she would liked to have a larger role in the actual plot of the film.]]

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* CreatorBacklash: [[spoiler:While Creator/KarenAllen was very happy to return as Marion Ravenwood, she said she would have liked to have a larger role in within the actual plot of the film.]]
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* CreatorBacklash: [[spoiler: While Creator/KarenAllen was very happy to return as Marion Ravenwood, she said she would liked to have a larger role in the actual plot of the film.]]
%% Per ATT ( https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=124693&type=att ), neither Ford nor Waller-Bridge qualify as DawsonCasting and should not be listed as an example.

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* CreatorBacklash: [[spoiler: While [[spoiler:While Creator/KarenAllen was very happy to return as Marion Ravenwood, she said she would liked to have a larger role in the actual plot of the film.]]
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** Mangold was toying with an ending where [[spoiler: Voller's scheme to go back to 1939 succeeded and Indy was left in the unenviable position of trying to ''save'' Hitler from him. He decided against it, as he thought Indy meeting Archimedes had a greater emotional impact.]]

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** Mangold was toying with an ending where [[spoiler: Voller's [[spoiler:Voller's scheme to go back to 1939 succeeded and Indy was left in the unenviable position of trying to ''save'' Hitler from him. He decided against it, as he thought Indy meeting Archimedes had a greater emotional impact.]]
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** Féodor Atkine voices Sallah in European French, since both of the previous ones, Albert de Médina (''Raiders of the Lost Ark'') and Creator/JacquesFrantz (''The Last Crusade'') have passed away (in 2009 and 2021, respectively).

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** Féodor Atkine Creator/FeodorAtkine voices Sallah in European French, since both of the previous ones, Albert de Médina (''Raiders of the Lost Ark'') and Creator/JacquesFrantz (''The Last Crusade'') have passed away (in 2009 and 2021, respectively).
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** Another voice actor dubs Sallah in European French, since both of the previous ones, Albert de Médina (''Raiders of the Lost Ark'') and Creator/JacquesFrantz (''The Last Crusade'') have passed away (in 2009 and 2021, respectively).

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** Another voice actor dubs ** Féodor Atkine voices Sallah in European French, since both of the previous ones, Albert de Médina (''Raiders of the Lost Ark'') and Creator/JacquesFrantz (''The Last Crusade'') have passed away (in 2009 and 2021, respectively).
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* BoxOfficeBomb: ''Dial'' earned $174 million domestic and $383 million worldwide and resulted in Creator/{{Disney}} losing anywhere from [[https://screenrant.com/indiana-jones-5-movie-box-office-profit-loss $100 million]] to [[https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64142725/ over $200 million]] on the film, and may be ''the biggest box office bomb ever'' if unadjusted for inflation. Numerous delays and the COVID-19 pandemic caused the budget to bloat to around $300 million ''before'' marketing and distribution costs, and it ultimately made less in theaters than his first one did over ''four decades'' prior despite costing over ''15 times'' as much to make. Domestically, the film opened with a paltry $60 million and dropped quickly after that, and its $174 million stateside is the lowest for the franchise and ''far'' below the previous entries when taking inflation into account. Its failure was generally blamed on [[SoOkayItsAverage mixed-to-average reviews]], following up the divisive ''Kingdom of the Crystal Skull'', and a lackluster marketing campaign. [[https://deadline.com/2023/07/box-office-indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny-1235427644/ Deadline]] noted Disney didn't make much of an effort to give the film four-quadrant appeal the same way Paramount did with ''Film/TopGunMaverick'' the previous year, and attendance was anemic from the under-35 demographic. The release of ''[[Film/MissionImpossibleDeadReckoningPartOne Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning]]'' and the expansions of surprise hit ''Film/SoundOfFreedom'' the next weekend did more damage.

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* BoxOfficeBomb: ''Dial'' earned $174 million domestic and $383 million worldwide and resulted in Creator/{{Disney}} losing anywhere from [[https://screenrant.com/indiana-jones-5-movie-box-office-profit-loss $100 million]] to [[https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64142725/ over $200 million]] on the film, and may be ''the biggest box office bomb ever'' if unadjusted for inflation. Numerous delays and the COVID-19 pandemic caused the budget to bloat to around $300 million ''before'' marketing and distribution costs, and it ultimately made less in theaters than his first one did over ''four decades'' prior despite costing over ''15 times'' as much to make. Domestically, the film opened with a paltry $60 million and dropped quickly after that, and its $174 million stateside is the lowest for the franchise and ''far'' below the previous entries when taking inflation into account. Its failure was generally blamed on [[SoOkayItsAverage mixed-to-average reviews]], following up the divisive ''Kingdom of the Crystal Skull'', and a lackluster marketing campaign. [[https://deadline.com/2023/07/box-office-indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny-1235427644/ Deadline]] noted opined the film's biggest problem was that it didn't have much appeal to those who weren't already fans of the franchise, and Disney didn't make much of an effort to give the film four-quadrant appeal the same way Paramount did with ''Film/TopGunMaverick'' the previous year, and attendance was anemic from the under-35 demographic. The release of ''[[Film/MissionImpossibleDeadReckoningPartOne Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning]]'' and the expansions of surprise hit ''Film/SoundOfFreedom'' the next weekend did more damage.
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* BTeamSequel: Indiana's last cinematic adventure is also his first without Creator/StevenSpielberg as the director and Creator/GeorgeLucas as the writer (and without sound designer Creator/BenBurtt or editor Michael Kahn), with Creator/JamesMangold taking over directing and scriptwriting duties. However, Spielberg and Lucas did serve as creative consults to Mangold, and both still remain as executive producers. As of this film, all three of the major franchises he launched have passed into the hands of other directors, with Spielberg sticking with Indy for a total of four films, compared to the one film he did for ''Franchise/{{Jaws}}'' and the two he did for ''Franchise/JurassicPark''.

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* BTeamSequel: Indiana's last cinematic adventure is also his first without Creator/StevenSpielberg as the director and Creator/GeorgeLucas as the writer (and without sound designer Creator/BenBurtt or and editor Michael Kahn), with Creator/JamesMangold taking over directing and scriptwriting duties. However, Spielberg and Lucas did serve served as creative consults to Mangold, and both still remain as were executive producers. As of this film, all three of the major franchises he Spielberg launched have passed into the hands of other directors, with Spielberg sticking with Indy for a total of four films, compared to the one film he did for ''Franchise/{{Jaws}}'' and the two he did for ''Franchise/JurassicPark''.
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I don't disagree that this is an Orphaned Reference, but it does'nt quite gel with Voller's motivations in the film. He clearly believes Hitler to be an incompetent putz and wants to take over from him, so it's not quite orphaned enough to count.


* OrphanedReference: Voller explains that his plan is to kill Hitler and replace him as leader, when it would probably be simpler and more practical to just [[RetroactivePrecognition tell him what he knows about the future]]. This is because a draft ending had his plan to make it back to 1939 succeeding, forcing Indy to SaveTheVillain.
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* OrphanedReference: Voller explains that his plan is to kill Hitler and replace him as leader, when it would probably be simpler and more practical to just [[RetroactivePrecognition tell him what he knows about the future]]. This is because a draft ending had his plan to make it back to 1939 succeeding, forcing Indy to SaveTheVillain.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: ''Dial'' earned $174 million domestic and $383 million worldwide and resulted in Creator/{{Disney}} losing anywhere from [[https://screenrant.com/indiana-jones-5-movie-box-office-profit-loss $100 million]] to [[https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64142725/ over $200 million]] on the film, and may be ''the biggest box office bomb ever'' if unadjusted for inflation. Numerous delays and the COVID-19 pandemic caused the budget to bloat to around $300 million ''before'' marketing and distribution costs, and it ultimately made less in theaters than his first one did over ''four decades'' prior despite costing over ''15 times'' as much to make. Domestically, the film opened with a paltry $60 million and dropped quickly after that, and its $174 million stateside is the lowest for the franchise and ''far'' below the previous entries when taking inflation into account. Its failure was generally blamed on [[SoOkayItsAverage mixed-to-average reviews]], following up the divisive ''Kingdom of the Crystal Skull'', and a lackluster marketing campaign. [[https://deadline.com/2023/07/box-office-indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny-1235427644/ Deadline]] noted Disney didn't make much of an effort to give the film four-quadrant appeal the same way Paramount did with ''Film/TopGunMaverick'' the previous year, and attendance was anemic from the under-35 demographic. The release of ''[[Film/MissionImpossibleDeadReckoningPartOne Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning]]'' and ''Film/SoundOfFreedom'' the next week did more damage.

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* BoxOfficeBomb: ''Dial'' earned $174 million domestic and $383 million worldwide and resulted in Creator/{{Disney}} losing anywhere from [[https://screenrant.com/indiana-jones-5-movie-box-office-profit-loss $100 million]] to [[https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64142725/ over $200 million]] on the film, and may be ''the biggest box office bomb ever'' if unadjusted for inflation. Numerous delays and the COVID-19 pandemic caused the budget to bloat to around $300 million ''before'' marketing and distribution costs, and it ultimately made less in theaters than his first one did over ''four decades'' prior despite costing over ''15 times'' as much to make. Domestically, the film opened with a paltry $60 million and dropped quickly after that, and its $174 million stateside is the lowest for the franchise and ''far'' below the previous entries when taking inflation into account. Its failure was generally blamed on [[SoOkayItsAverage mixed-to-average reviews]], following up the divisive ''Kingdom of the Crystal Skull'', and a lackluster marketing campaign. [[https://deadline.com/2023/07/box-office-indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny-1235427644/ Deadline]] noted Disney didn't make much of an effort to give the film four-quadrant appeal the same way Paramount did with ''Film/TopGunMaverick'' the previous year, and attendance was anemic from the under-35 demographic. The release of ''[[Film/MissionImpossibleDeadReckoningPartOne Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning]]'' and the expansions of surprise hit ''Film/SoundOfFreedom'' the next week weekend did more damage.
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I don't get how this movie sank Ruby Gillman when they were aimed at completely different demos; was also being called a disappointment weeks before Barbie, etc, came out


* BoxOfficeBomb: According to Website/IMDb, ''Dial'' may be ''the biggest box office bomb ever'' if unadjusted for inflation. Indiana Jones' final cinematic adventure ultimately made less in theaters than his first one did over ''four decades'' prior despite costing over ''15 times'' as much to make, ending up as one of the most expensive films ever made at a budget of around $295-300 million ''before'' marketing and distribution costs. This massive cost came in no small part due to its TroubledProduction--which involved a year-long delay to filming due to the COVID-19 pandemic--and Creator/HarrisonFord suffering a shoulder injury during a fight rehearsal, resulting in another two weeks delay. ''Dial'' opened with a mediocre weekend of $60 million [[note]]where it massively sank another notorious box office bomb in [=DreamWorks=]' ''WesternAnimation/RubyGillmanTeenageKraken''[[/note]] domestic and dropped a whopping 56% during its second weekend at the box office, in part due to the unexpected success of ''Film/SoundOfFreedom'' among the older demographic both films targeted, on top of releasing it after the still strong ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManAcrossTheSpiderVerse'' and before big tentpole films such as ''Film/MissionImpossibleDeadReckoningPartOne'', ''Film/{{Barbie|2023}}'', and ''Film/{{Oppenheimer}}''. The end result for ''Dial'' ($174 million domestic, $383 million worldwide, with only around half going back to the studio) cost Creator/{{Disney}} anywhere from [[https://screenrant.com/indiana-jones-5-movie-box-office-profit-loss 100]] to [[https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64142725/ over 200]] million dollars.

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* BoxOfficeBomb: According to Website/IMDb, ''Dial'' may be ''the biggest box office bomb ever'' if unadjusted for inflation. Indiana Jones' final cinematic adventure ultimately made less in theaters than his first one did over ''four decades'' prior despite costing over ''15 times'' as much to make, ending up as one of the most expensive films ever made at a budget of around $295-300 earned $174 million ''before'' marketing and distribution costs. This massive cost came in no small part due to its TroubledProduction--which involved a year-long delay to filming due to the COVID-19 pandemic--and Creator/HarrisonFord suffering a shoulder injury during a fight rehearsal, resulting in another two weeks delay. ''Dial'' opened with a mediocre weekend of $60 million [[note]]where it massively sank another notorious box office bomb in [=DreamWorks=]' ''WesternAnimation/RubyGillmanTeenageKraken''[[/note]] domestic and dropped a whopping 56% during its second weekend at the box office, in part due to the unexpected success of ''Film/SoundOfFreedom'' among the older demographic both films targeted, on top of releasing it after the still strong ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManAcrossTheSpiderVerse'' and before big tentpole films such as ''Film/MissionImpossibleDeadReckoningPartOne'', ''Film/{{Barbie|2023}}'', and ''Film/{{Oppenheimer}}''. The end result for ''Dial'' ($174 million domestic, $383 million worldwide, with only around half going back to the studio) cost worldwide and resulted in Creator/{{Disney}} losing anywhere from [[https://screenrant.com/indiana-jones-5-movie-box-office-profit-loss 100]] $100 million]] to [[https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64142725/ over 200]] $200 million]] on the film, and may be ''the biggest box office bomb ever'' if unadjusted for inflation. Numerous delays and the COVID-19 pandemic caused the budget to bloat to around $300 million dollars. ''before'' marketing and distribution costs, and it ultimately made less in theaters than his first one did over ''four decades'' prior despite costing over ''15 times'' as much to make. Domestically, the film opened with a paltry $60 million and dropped quickly after that, and its $174 million stateside is the lowest for the franchise and ''far'' below the previous entries when taking inflation into account. Its failure was generally blamed on [[SoOkayItsAverage mixed-to-average reviews]], following up the divisive ''Kingdom of the Crystal Skull'', and a lackluster marketing campaign. [[https://deadline.com/2023/07/box-office-indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny-1235427644/ Deadline]] noted Disney didn't make much of an effort to give the film four-quadrant appeal the same way Paramount did with ''Film/TopGunMaverick'' the previous year, and attendance was anemic from the under-35 demographic. The release of ''[[Film/MissionImpossibleDeadReckoningPartOne Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning]]'' and ''Film/SoundOfFreedom'' the next week did more damage.

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