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* CreatorBacklash: Jimmy Olander was critical of "This Romeo Ain't Got [[{{Pun}} Julie Yet]]", which he wrote. In the band's autobiography, he stated that it was "by far not my favorite Diamond Rio recording – but that's at the time when I'm thinkin', 'Oh, this is easy, let's write this. It's kinda cute.'"



* OldShame: Jimmy Olander was critical of "This Romeo Ain't Got [[{{Pun}} Julie Yet]]", which he wrote. In the band's autobiography, he stated that it was "by far not my favorite Diamond Rio recording – but that's at the time when I'm thinkin', 'Oh, this is easy, let's write this. It's kinda cute.'"
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* PermanentPlaceholder: Before Dana Williams joined, Danny Davenport was the band's LeadBassist. A record producer convinced them that when recording demos, the vocal and bass parts would be hard to separate in the control room, so he suggested that they have Marty Roe sing a "scratch" track which would be overdubbed by Davenport in post. They liked the "scratch" tracks so much that Roe ended up becoming the permanent lead vocalist (while Davenport quit and was hastily replaced by Dana Williams).

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* PermanentPlaceholder: Before Dana Williams joined, Danny Matt Davenport was the band's LeadBassist. A record producer convinced them that when recording demos, the vocal and bass parts would be hard to separate in the control room, so he suggested that they have Marty Roe sing a "scratch" track which would be overdubbed by Davenport in post. They liked the "scratch" tracks so much that Roe ended up becoming the permanent lead vocalist (while Davenport quit and was hastily replaced by Dana Williams).



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: After Danny Davenport quit, Alan [=LeBeouf=] of Baillie & the Boys was offered a chance to become the bassist, but turned it down due to other commitments.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: After Danny Matt Davenport quit, Alan [=LeBeouf=] of Baillie & the Boys was offered a chance to become the bassist, but turned it down due to other commitments.
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* TroubledProduction: Their first album presented problems: Olander, Johnson, and Williams were all injured in unrelated accidents, with Johnson's affecting his mandolin playing; photographers had trouble getting all six members in suitable poses for promotional photos; a producer suggested that Roe [[SelfBackingVocalist sing his own harmonies]] instead of Johnson, to which he responded by threatening to walk out; and the band still had prior commitments under their old name to the point that they sometimes had to go by both names in the same day.

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* TroubledProduction: Their first album presented problems: Olander, Johnson, and Williams were all injured in unrelated accidents, with Johnson's affecting his mandolin playing; photographers had trouble getting all six members in suitable poses for promotional photos; a producer Monty Powell suggested that Roe [[SelfBackingVocalist sing his own harmonies]] instead of Johnson, to which he responded by threatening to walk out; and the band still had prior commitments under their old name to the point that they sometimes had to go by both names in the same day.
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* MidDevelopmentGenreShift: ''Completely'' was supposed to be a double album with traditional country on one disc and country-pop on the other, but the concept was abandoned partway through.
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* TroubledProduction: Their first album presented problems: Olander, Johnson, and Williams were all injured, photographers had trouble getting all six members in suitable poses for promotional photos, Johnson's thumb injury had affected his mandolin playing (to the point that one of the producers suggested that Roe [[SelfBackingVocalist sing his own harmonies]] instead of Johnson, to which Johnson responded by threatening to walk out), and the band still had prior commitments under their old name, to the point that they sometimes had to go by both names in the same day.

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* TroubledProduction: Their first album presented problems: Olander, Johnson, and Williams were all injured, injured in unrelated accidents, with Johnson's affecting his mandolin playing; photographers had trouble getting all six members in suitable poses for promotional photos, Johnson's thumb injury had affected his mandolin playing (to the point that one of the producers photos; a producer suggested that Roe [[SelfBackingVocalist sing his own harmonies]] instead of Johnson, to which Johnson he responded by threatening to walk out), out; and the band still had prior commitments under their old name, name to the point that they sometimes had to go by both names in the same day.
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* TroubledProduction: Their first album presented problems: Olander, Johnson, and Williams were all injured, photographers had trouble getting all six members in suitable poses for promotional photos, Johnson's thumb injury had affected his mandolin playing (to the point that one of the producers suggested that Roe [[SelfBackingVocalist sing his own harmonies]] instead of Johnson, to which Johnson responded by threatening to walk out), and the band still had prior commitments under their old name, to the point that they sometimes had to go by both names in the same day.
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* BlackSheepHit: "One More Day" is far poppier than anything else in their catalog, even factoring in the gradual shift in their sound over time.
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* ThrowItIn: The title of "Norma Jean Riley" came about this way. Their producer liked the song, which was originally titled "Pretty Little Lady", but felt that the lady of the song should have a title. He quipped, "It could be 'Norma Jean Riley', anything!" Since that fit the meter, the song was thus renamed.

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* ThrowItIn: The title of "Norma Jean Riley" came about this way. Their producer liked the song, which was originally titled "Pretty Little Lady", but felt that the lady of the song should have a title. He quipped, "It could be 'Norma Jean Riley', anything!" Since that fit the meter, the song was thus renamed.renamed.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: After Danny Davenport quit, Alan [=LeBeouf=] of Baillie & the Boys was offered a chance to become the bassist, but turned it down due to other commitments.
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* ChartDisplacement: Their longest-lasting #1 hit is "How Your Love Makes Me Feel", which is nowhere near as famous as "I Believe", "Beautiful Mess", "Meet in the Middle", or "One More Day". Also, the equally-famous "Love a Little Stronger" and "Unbelieveable" only got to #2.
* CreatorCouple: Brian Prout, twice. He was originally married to Nancy Given Prout of the all-female country band Wild Rose, and then to Stephanie Bentley (best known for writing "[[Music/FaithHill Breathe]]" and "[[Music/MartinaMcBride Concrete Angel]]").
* MissingEpisode: Two examples. Their 2000 album ''Stuff'' was canceled due to radio rejecting the lead single of the same name (some of the tracks later ended up on ''One More Day''), and a 2004 project titled ''Can't You Tell'' was shelved when both "Can't You Tell" and "One Believer" failed to make the Top 40.
* OldShame: Jimmy Olander was critical of "This Romeo Ain't Got Julie Yet", which he wrote. In the band's autobiography, he stated that it was "by far not my favorite Diamond Rio recording – but that's at the time when I'm thinkin', 'Oh, this is easy, let's write this. It's kinda cute.'"

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* ChartDisplacement: Their longest-lasting #1 hit on the Hot Country Songs charts is "How Your Love Makes Me Feel", which is nowhere near as famous as "I Believe", "Beautiful Mess", "Meet in the Middle", or "One More Day". Also, the equally-famous their other four #1 hits. It's even more obscure than "Love a Little Stronger" and "Unbelieveable" or "Unbelieveable", both of which only got to #2.
* CreatorCouple: Brian Prout, twice. He was originally married to Nancy Given Prout of the all-female country band Wild Rose, and then to Stephanie Bentley (best known for writing "[[Music/FaithHill Breathe]]" and "[[Music/MartinaMcBride Concrete Angel]]").
* MissingEpisode: Two examples. Their 2000 album ''Stuff'' was canceled canned due to radio rejecting the lead single of the same name (some of the tracks later ended up on ''One More Day''), and a 2004 project titled ''Can't You Tell'' was shelved when both "Can't You Tell" and "One Believer" failed to make the Top 40.
* OldShame: Jimmy Olander was critical of "This Romeo Ain't Got [[{{Pun}} Julie Yet", Yet]]", which he wrote. In the band's autobiography, he stated that it was "by far not my favorite Diamond Rio recording – but that's at the time when I'm thinkin', 'Oh, this is easy, let's write this. It's kinda cute.'"
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* MissingEpisode: Two examples. Their 2000 album ''Stuff'' was canceled due to radio rejecting the lead single of the same name (some of the tracks later ended up on ''One More Day''), and a 2004 project titled ''Can't You Tell'' was shelved when both "Can't You Tell" and "One Believer" failed to make the Top 40.
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* PermanentPlaceholder: Before Dana Williams joined, Danny Davenport was the band's LeadBassist. A record producer convinced them that when recording demos, the vocal and bass parts would be hard to separate in the control room, so he suggested that they have Marty Roe sing a "scratch" track which would be overdubbed by Davenport in post. They liked the "scratch" tracks so much that Roe ended up becoming the permanent lead vocalist (while Davenport quit and was hastily replaced by Dana Williams).
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* CreatorCouple: Brian Prout, twice. He was originally married to Nancy Given Prout of the all-female country band Wild Rose, and then to Stephanie Bentley (best known for writing "[[Music/FaithHill Breathe]]" and "[[Music/MartinaMcBride Concrete Angel]]").

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* ThePeteBest: Although the band has had the same lineup since 1989, none of the members are original.

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* OldShame: Jimmy Olander was critical of "This Romeo Ain't Got Julie Yet", which he wrote. In the band's autobiography, he stated that it was "by far not my favorite Diamond Rio recording – but that's at the time when I'm thinkin', 'Oh, this is easy, let's write this. It's kinda cute.'"
* ThePeteBest: Although the band has had the same lineup since 1989, none of the members are original.original.
* ThrowItIn: The title of "Norma Jean Riley" came about this way. Their producer liked the song, which was originally titled "Pretty Little Lady", but felt that the lady of the song should have a title. He quipped, "It could be 'Norma Jean Riley', anything!" Since that fit the meter, the song was thus renamed.
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* BreakupBreakout: Ty Herndon was an early member of the group, but left after about a year. He later had several country music hits on Creator/EpicRecords between 1995 and 1999.
* ChartDisplacement: Their longest-lasting #1 hit is "How Your Love Makes Me Feel", which is nowhere near as famous as "I Believe", "Beautiful Mess", "Meet in the Middle", or "One More Day". Also, the equally-famous "Love a Little Stronger" and "Unbelieveable" only got to #2.
* ThePeteBest: Although the band has had the same lineup since 1989, none of the members are original.

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